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On December 31 2014 22:58 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 22:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 31 2014 22:33 Koshi wrote:
I blame America. That's very unpatriotic of you. Oh I really don't like TheChyz' entry, basically shitflinging from the side and concluding without attempting to become part of the discussion. He has a few opinions but none of them are strong and then he doesn't ask any questions to bolster his reads. Chyz why aren't you asking any questions? You think this is mafia entering the thread? Why? He is trying to stop the shitposting. 1) Did you find Dr.H. opening post alignment indicative? 2) Why do you think ritoky went after Dr.H. so hard? 3) Do you disagree with TheChyz that ritoky was just filling his filter? 4) He ended his opening post asking ritoky to do something constructive. That's right on the money. Pro town. Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.
Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.
@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.
1) I agree that it isn't alignment indicative.
2) Because he thought he found a bone to pick on. It's too early to say whether that's because he just wants a target or because he legitimately believes he has something here. All I remember from Ritoky is his USA USA USA campaign in Cell.
3) I don't have enough information to say that one way or the other.
4) Telling people to do something constructive when you're not doing anything constructive yourself is not pro town. It's stating the obvious whilst not doing it yourself. Chyz has not asked any questions. He's not trying to solve the game.
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Well, I find his play pretty acceptable. Saying that he is not trying to solve the game is a big overstatement. He is trying to solve the game with the information he has, he just isn't trying to create more information/content in the thread. I like his Eden read, it is thought out, shows he is following the thread. I like his conclusion on the Dr.H. & ritoky chain. And that is enough for me to see him as possible town.
I know you are used to play with great and awesome players like myself and myself. But I think you are being too though on TheChyz.
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Maybe you're right. I just always have a strong averse reaction to people saying "go do something useful" whilst not doing something useful. It rustles my jimmies, so to say.
What specifically bothers you by Geript enough to vote for him?
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Two things Dr.H. said. First thing was about geripts buddying to Dr.H.
The second thing was that geript just came by this morning to say "Koshi you are pretty awesome" after I made that post on Eden.
And I guess I am missing some geripts starpower in this game. Kelsier his case was pretty good as well.
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No idea why this started right before NYE, but I can't play until I'm back from passing the time with my friends at a house in a nearby town, probably tomorrow afternoon or evening, depending on when they want to drive back.
Until then, good luck. We're departing within an hour.
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On December 31 2014 23:17 Koshi wrote:
Two things Dr.H. said. First thing was about geripts buddying to Dr.H.
The second thing was that geript just came by this morning to say "Koshi you are pretty awesome" after I made that post on Eden.
And I guess I am missing some geripts starpower in this game. Kelsier his case was pretty good as well.
I like this post because you made it in 3 minutes so you didn't think much about it and it instantly fit into the way you thought about the game with your suspicions on Dr. Helvetica. Feels very genuine. I like you this game Koshi, wanna be friends?
I think I'll sheep you for being handsome.
##Unvote
##Vote Geript
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I wanna be friends too Koshi. You're making me sadface.
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@Artanis. It's because he's generally just an asshole bully when he's mafia; like his level of assholery is significantly higher as mafia than as town. Also, when you look at his posts, he's struggling. TheChyz read is a good example. Chyz is probably town and none of the things that DrH posted about make Chyz anything other than maybe annoying. Also the reaction is similar to what I remember of his town play when he came back in Sicilian and in my first game with him in LIX (I think that was it).
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My initial reaction to Marv was that I think he's mafia. I'll figure it out later on for sure. And I don't have great reasons why I think this, but I do have a 100% read on Marv.
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Because of NYE, I will only be able to be active for a few hours today. Tomorrow I'll have more time though. Chyz looks scummy. Though I do think people are attacking him for the wrong reasons. The discussion between DH and rikoty WAS stupid. But if you look at Chyz opening post, he doesn't give any actual opinion about the players involved other than that rikoty should move on. Nowhere does he speak about their alignment.
On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.
Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.
@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.
Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality.
##Vote: TheChyz
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On December 31 2014 15:17 geript wrote:
So you don't find Robik who is normally an exceptionally prolific poster as town posting "Hello?" twice and then fucking off when he got ignored interesting in the slightest?
I think Robik is scummy for this. Obviously, it was at the very start of the game so its not the strongest of reads BUT I know I did a very similar thing in another game, i.e. saying something of absolutely no substance early on in the game to indicative that I was in fact active, and then just afk.
I was scum that game.
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I don't understand you people.
Lazermonkey. Explain to me what conclusion TheChyz should have drawn from the ritoky/Dr.H. argument?
You say that the discussion was stupid, TheChyz stopped (or attempted) to stop the argument and steer the thread into another direction. Why would mafia do this?
I am not saying that it is impossible for mafia to do. But if he is doing it as mafia I would have expected that TheChyz would try to gain cred from it somehow. Or formulate his words otherwise. His post just doesn't scream mafia to me. It isn't forced. It isn't overdramatic. It's a good post.
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Like, it is quite a confrontational post to make. He instantly puts himself in the middle of the discussion by calling out ritoky like that.
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On January 01 2015 00:38 Lazermonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 15:17 geript wrote:
So you don't find Robik who is normally an exceptionally prolific poster as town posting "Hello?" twice and then fucking off when he got ignored interesting in the slightest? I think Robik is scummy for this. Obviously, it was at the very start of the game so its not the strongest of reads BUT I know I did a very similar thing in another game, i.e. saying something of absolutely no substance early on in the game to indicative that I was in fact active, and then just afk. I was scum that game.
Why not say that I did the same thing with Marv in Russian?
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On January 01 2015 00:24 geript wrote:
My initial reaction to Marv was that I think he's mafia. I'll figure it out later on for sure. And I don't have great reasons why I think this, but I do have a 100% read on Marv.
???
Is Marv 100% mafia or not?
Also the fact that you don't want to be friends with me makes me very sad and very angry. The pitchfork and noose kind of angry.
On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote:Hi everyone Because of NYE, I will only be able to be active for a few hours today. Tomorrow I'll have more time though. Chyz looks scummy. Though I do think people are attacking him for the wrong reasons. The discussion between DH and rikoty WAS stupid. But if you look at Chyz opening post, he doesn't give any actual opinion about the players involved other than that rikoty should move on. Nowhere does he speak about their alignment. Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.
Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.
@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality. ##Vote: TheChyz
That's pretty much the exact reason I gave though; not following through with new discussion after saying the current one was pointless, so why do you say "people" are attacking him for the wrong reasons?
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Its not necesarily wrong with making a post saying that a discussion is stupid. The problem is when the only post you have is a post calling a discussion stupid. Why is it, after all the of the discussion and multiple people calling out rikoty, that all Chyz did was saying that the discussion was stupid? Just like Artanis said, why say "do something usefull" and proceed to do nothing yourself?
Granted, he did put up some reads later but only after he was called out.
Don't you think there is a scum motive in trying to look active while not really pushing the thread forward? Because I would argue that is what Chyz did.
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On January 01 2015 00:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 00:24 geript wrote:
My initial reaction to Marv was that I think he's mafia. I'll figure it out later on for sure. And I don't have great reasons why I think this, but I do have a 100% read on Marv. ??? Is Marv 100% mafia or not? Also the fact that you don't want to be friends with me makes me very sad and very angry. The pitchfork and noose kind of angry. Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote:Hi everyone Because of NYE, I will only be able to be active for a few hours today. Tomorrow I'll have more time though. Chyz looks scummy. Though I do think people are attacking him for the wrong reasons. The discussion between DH and rikoty WAS stupid. But if you look at Chyz opening post, he doesn't give any actual opinion about the players involved other than that rikoty should move on. Nowhere does he speak about their alignment. On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.
Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.
@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality. ##Vote: TheChyz That's pretty much the exact reason I gave though; not following through with new discussion after saying the current one was pointless, so why do you say "people" are attacking him for the wrong reasons?
100% as in I've never read him wrong as town. As for mafia or not, idk for sure yet. He is the only vet that I'm not leaning town on currently. We can be friends Artanis, but watch out after I flip people will call you scummy for buddying me. Best to leave that vote where it is wink wink.
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On January 01 2015 00:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 00:24 geript wrote:
My initial reaction to Marv was that I think he's mafia. I'll figure it out later on for sure. And I don't have great reasons why I think this, but I do have a 100% read on Marv. ??? Is Marv 100% mafia or not? Also the fact that you don't want to be friends with me makes me very sad and very angry. The pitchfork and noose kind of angry. Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote:Hi everyone Because of NYE, I will only be able to be active for a few hours today. Tomorrow I'll have more time though. Chyz looks scummy. Though I do think people are attacking him for the wrong reasons. The discussion between DH and rikoty WAS stupid. But if you look at Chyz opening post, he doesn't give any actual opinion about the players involved other than that rikoty should move on. Nowhere does he speak about their alignment. On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.
Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.
@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality. ##Vote: TheChyz That's pretty much the exact reason I gave though; not following through with new discussion after saying the current one was pointless, so why do you say "people" are attacking him for the wrong reasons?
Yhea, I know. Though you were (I think) the first person to say that.
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On January 01 2015 00:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Its not necesarily wrong with making a post saying that a discussion is stupid. The problem is when the only post you have is a post calling a discussion stupid. Why is it, after all the of the discussion and multiple people calling out rikoty, that all Chyz did was saying that the discussion was stupid? Just like Artanis said, why say "do something usefull" and proceed to do nothing yourself?
Granted, he did put up some reads later but only after he was called out.
Don't you think there is a scum motive in trying to look active while not really pushing the thread forward? Because I would argue that is what Chyz did.
Show me a game in which Chyz is a townleader.
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