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Btw, as I'm probably going to be mostly unavailable today (it's new year's eve... why did we even start?). I'll just throw out very much not curated thoughts I had while reading up to like page... 16?
I'll catch up with the rest later.
geript is sort of scummy in some respects. I have no idea why 20 minutes into the game he started wishing for random people to be there to talk to him. Also, everything he says is sort of... too clean? not dumb enough? I don't know how to describe it and it's just a feeling based on memory, I haven't gone back and re-read, so I'd need to confirm.
Eden came off strong and he said something I thought was really dumb.
DrH is probably town, and he had a post that made me feel good about that read.
Damdred is probably town too. He too has a post I can't remember that made me think "oh that looks like a townie".
Koshi overreacting on this page (21) to DrH's dismissal of koshi's defense was kinda mafia. Idk though.
I should probably just sheep marv and lynch him if he's wrong. That's always a fine strategy.
Remember, these reads I'm just throwing out literally from memory of having read like 4-6 pages this morning. Don't pretend these are some concrete observations.
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So going to give my case on geript. Firstly
On December 31 2014 14:20 geript wrote:
I really wish Marv, Palmer, Koshi and Artanis were around.
Basically saying, I don't want to participate, I want these people to be here so I can call them town! Note he proceeds to call Koshi town almost immediately when he enters the thread.
On December 31 2014 18:33 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 18:23 Koshi wrote:
Eden didn't look too good early. Something with saying Dr.H. is town after making a big "I don't like this about Dr.H." post and then in his next post Eden is back to Dr.H. is scummy.
I'll look into TheChyz after some coffee and work. <3 I feel a lot better that you feel the same way. When you get back let me know what you think of ritoky and Chyz.
Did Koshi give a spectacular bit of insight? I don't think so.
Then he makes a post where DrH isn't alignement indicative (apparently)
On December 31 2014 15:44 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 15:35 Eden1892 wrote:On December 31 2014 15:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On December 31 2014 15:22 Eden1892 wrote:On December 31 2014 15:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Uh, I don't want to make your dick hard. I don't think anything about anyone yet. On December 31 2014 15:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
That being said I'd like to show everyone my spreadsheet ranking Day 1 joke posts from least to most scummy. what's up with the second post here though? seems like if you have opinions about which posts are suspicious you have opinions about which people are suspicious. non? Seems like you take everything literally, we're gonna have problems if you waste your time with shit like this. just checking, it seemed like a joke but i didn't want to supply that answer in case it weren't~ On December 31 2014 15:32 geript wrote:On December 31 2014 15:27 geript wrote:
I'm more concerned about how you find a post that is "stiff and awkwardly timed," two traits that are more often considered mafia tells, towny? Can you explain that more fully? It's also pretty weird that you reasonably correctly point out that his post is going nowhere while simultaneously responding to it. @Eden Explain. sure, i'm not sure what you meant by "shut down this line" in the previous part of the post btw so if you want a reply to that please clarify for my addled brain as for why i read it townie, like i said, it seemed like an effort to get discussion somewhere besides early-game banter, which imo wasn't going anywhere. i followed up on the post because even if the object-level discussion ends up being pretty pointless, i can get some possibly useful meta-level reads from it - and hey, maybe it is going somewhere and i miss it, y'know? By shut it down, I mean shut down any further discussion on useless policy. Nobody needs to find policy to find discussion. The problem with your "townread" is that your reasons for finding him town are complete bullshit. That post is a throwaway post that I could recite to newbies to "get discussion going" as either alignment and potentially useful dependent on how it's driven and moved (even moreso to scum imo not that it matters). There actually were things to be talked about in the thread already (my townread on Damdred, the ??? on sicklucker who IIRC also made a passing townread on Damdred, Robik not posting anything while making a few posts, etc.). It's odd that you comment that his post was stiff and awkwardly timed, two bad reasons that people's posts are often called scummy for and then settle on a bad reason to call him town for it. As for meta reads, what type of meta reads do you expect will lead to any sort of meaningful read off of policy discussion?
but then he goes on to call drH town for
On December 31 2014 17:22 geript wrote:
Also mental note: DrH is probably town.
On December 31 2014 17:26 geript wrote:Lol. You probably wouldn't like the reasons for the read. 
What the fuck is this, why not give the reasons. It just looks like an attempt to buddy up.
he also does the same thing with chyz
On December 31 2014 17:17 geript wrote:
Mental note: Chyz maybe newb town.
and he also calls Dam town in the bigger post "my town read on damdred" I see no evidence for that, you just highlight something and say "mental note for later"
I still don't know who his mafia reads are. His play so far has been whining about statistics , trying to buddy everyone who joins the thread and then waiting for certain players to enter the thread so he can immediately call them town.
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I like KelsierSC now for sharing some of my thoughts on geript.
Also I could see myself sheep this marv on ritooky thing.
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yeah NYE is a terrible time to start in the end.
I am a bit suspicious of geript too, but I don't know if it's because he's actually scummy. His wanting a bunch of ppl to turn up because he's so good at reading them reminds me of Russia Today where he said very similar things about being good town and being able to read certain people. but maybe he can do it as town also, just i haven't seen anything else to make me think he's town this game. tbc.
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Oh it was Eden's comments on DrH that I thought were dumb. The post where he gave reasons why DrH was scummy and then called him town. Or that's what it felt like at least.
Maybe he was just calling DrH dumb town, in which case it's better. I'll have to check.
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fyi: I totally should change my vote to geript or Eden or ritoky but I am unwilling.
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I gotta run, I'll be mostly off for today.
I'll be here tomorrow in some capacity though.
I'll actually add to my list of reads that I kinda think marv is town. I have no particular strong reasons for this, and please don't take this as a licence to never lynch him, but he just feels right. But I'd listen to what he has to say this game.
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Eden reminds me of those well spoken criminals in Sin City.
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##unvote
##vote: geript
The buddying is real.
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*trows some attention to Artanis*
It seems like you need it.
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On December 31 2014 22:08 Koshi wrote:
*trows some attention to Artanis*
It seems like you need it.
Thanks bbygirl <3, I needed that.
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You also waiting on the missing people to do stuff?
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No, I'm reading up on the game now.
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I kinda feel that the events in this game so far have been analyzed enough. I need something new and fresh.
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On December 31 2014 22:24 Koshi wrote:
I kinda feel that the events in this game so far have been analyzed enough. I need something new and fresh.
I should keep a log of my reading through the thread.
Page 18. It has been 30 minutes since I started reading the thread. Since then, a man has made a joke about being too busy reading the scum qt. Another man made a joke about this joke and posted about how they should lynch all liars. Then a lot of words happened and somehow there are scumreads now.
...I was expecting it to be more epic than this when I started writing.
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On December 31 2014 22:33 Koshi wrote:
I blame America.
That's very unpatriotic of you.
Oh I really don't like TheChyz' entry, basically shitflinging from the side and concluding without attempting to become part of the discussion. He has a few opinions but none of them are strong and then he doesn't ask any questions to bolster his reads.
Chyz why aren't you asking any questions?
On December 31 2014 17:40 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 17:33 ritoky wrote:On December 31 2014 17:27 sicklucker wrote:
So ritoky im more townie then in a previous game why dont you come out and say im town rather then "I dont know what to make of it yet" what makes you more town? i don't particularly think you're being especially townie as of now. as for reading you, i read you that way because i have never been in a game with you before (that i can remember) where i was town. my read on you last game was easy: i was mafia so manufacture it as needed. this game i am not, and the only thing that stood out to me last game as a way to read you town is that you stopped reading the posts of people once you decided they were mafia. you haven't vehemently declared anyone mafia yet, so that read hasn't really come into play. Dude I was mafia in final 3 in a game where you were town. Thats why im calling bullshit on your reads on me. We have never been the same alignment and you wont even admit you have mafia meta on me. As for not listening to people who I thought were mafia I was right about every single one of them. Even hf I was stringing along who I said was 95% mafia. So like your reads totally wrong and made up im calling you out. Your my top scum so far.
If there's one thing that rarely happens in mafia games, it's misrepresenting someone's meta intentionally. It's such an easy thing to check that I think it's more likely that Ritoky simply misremembered here.
I like Dr. Helvetica's case on Chyz even if it's a bit repetitive. Though I also like Koshi's point about the strange lower than expected activity line which feels off. However, my problem with your defense of Chyz, Koshi, is that whilst Chyz might've been correct in that it wasn't going anywhere, he did make reads off it that weren't strong enough to vote for, so why doesn't he either pursue the issue with more questions or try to move the topic if he feels like it's been exhausted? Idgi.
On December 31 2014 20:52 Palmar wrote:
geript is sort of scummy in some respects. I have no idea why 20 minutes into the game he started wishing for random people to be there to talk to him. Also, everything he says is sort of... too clean? not dumb enough? I don't know how to describe it and it's just a feeling based on memory, I haven't gone back and re-read, so I'd need to confirm.
Palmar confirmed town for making me laugh. I also kinda agree that we haven't really had a Geript moment of insight yet, which reminds me a bit of LXI where he just waddled through.
I would like to hear Geript's dumb reasons for considering Dr.Helvetica town.
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On December 31 2014 22:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:That's very unpatriotic of you. Oh I really don't like TheChyz' entry, basically shitflinging from the side and concluding without attempting to become part of the discussion. He has a few opinions but none of them are strong and then he doesn't ask any questions to bolster his reads. Chyz why aren't you asking any questions?
You think this is mafia entering the thread? Why? He is trying to stop the shitposting.
1) Did you find Dr.H. opening post alignment indicative?
2) Why do you think ritoky went after Dr.H. so hard?
3) Do you disagree with TheChyz that ritoky was just filling his filter?
4) He ended his opening post asking ritoky to do something constructive. That's right on the money. Pro town.
On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.
Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.
@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.
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