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On December 31 2014 17:40 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 17:33 ritoky wrote:On December 31 2014 17:27 sicklucker wrote:
So ritoky im more townie then in a previous game why dont you come out and say im town rather then "I dont know what to make of it yet" what makes you more town? i don't particularly think you're being especially townie as of now. as for reading you, i read you that way because i have never been in a game with you before (that i can remember) where i was town. my read on you last game was easy: i was mafia so manufacture it as needed. this game i am not, and the only thing that stood out to me last game as a way to read you town is that you stopped reading the posts of people once you decided they were mafia. you haven't vehemently declared anyone mafia yet, so that read hasn't really come into play. Dude I was mafia in final 3 in a game where you were town. Thats why im calling bullshit on your reads on me. We have never been the same alignment and you wont even admit you have mafia meta on me. As for not listening to people who I thought were mafia I was right about every single one of them. Even hf I was stringing along who I said was 95% mafia. So like your reads totally wrong and made up im calling you out. Your my top scum so far.
well you left such an impression that i don't remember it at all. dunno why you think i have to have a read on you a couple hours into the game, especially a meta one. also don't know how one makes up not having a read, but apparently i did it.
and if you're saying we are not the same alignment again, that means you're mafia.
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finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged:
note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted
koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile
gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile
*geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now*
artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile
lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile
marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile
^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^
*robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile*
thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile
palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile
damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile
*batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile*
SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile
vivax - no post
*kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile*
ritoky - town jesus
drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile
eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile
*rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now*
superbia - no post
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y'know when i was a kid i always thought people + fireworks = fun
now that i am an adult and work in an emergency room, i know otherwise.
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On January 01 2015 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:+ Show Spoiler [wall of reads] +finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged:
note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted
koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile
gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile
*geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now*
artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile
lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile
marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile
^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^
*robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile*
thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile
palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile
damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile
*batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile*
SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile
vivax - no post
*kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile*
ritoky - town jesus
drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile
eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile
*rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now*
superbia - no post Forcing yourself to have a read on people that are null is pretty dumb and I have no idea why you consider me being torn on Chyz when there's been so many words on him scummy. Can you explain that to me? I also have no idea why you think that geript quote is super town. Whyo do you feel JAT is "bleeding town out of every orifice"? JAT has completely ransacked a bunch of good town players in one game and I haven't seen anything from him that I think he's incapable of doing as mafia. Why is Robik on the town pile when your reads state nothing townie about him other than a vague promise, and why is RoL scum for saying the exact same thing? Dr. H, your wall of texts tend to K.O. me. Could you run the most important points by me as brief as possible?
forcing myself to place people in a definitive pile in my notes is more beneficial for me; particularly on day 1. i think most people should take definitive stances on players personally. the prevalence of null reads being seen as okay only allows mafia to hide better by giving them frequently and ignoring partners.
as for you being torn on chyz, i was quoting your post:
On January 01 2015 02:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 02:22 geript wrote:
@Artanis. What do you think of sicklucker, Eden and Kelsier? I think those are the best overall flips. Ritoky could maybe be tossed in there too.
Do you disagree with the following: Artanis, DrH, Chyz, Damdred I feel like I'm forgetting someone from this list but oh well. Missed this post earlier. I'd remove Chyz. I'm really torn on him right now. I think Eden is also likely town for prying into every little hole, though I haven't seen him play scum so I'm not sure if he does the same as scum but it fits his town meta even if the bit about Dr.H in the start was a bit weird. I definitely don't want to lynch him D1 in any case. I haven't paid much attention to sicklucker, and I like Kelsier for how he's been pressuring people and asking questions.
Here's you stating you're torn on chyz and want geript to remove him from his town list. i see since you have moved on to placing geript as your top scum, will be interested in how you went from talking to him like he is pretty town right here to voting for him as scum when i get there in the thread.
as for the read on geript. there's something really town about him electing to withhold information there when he is under pressure. like someone is prying into him for information and rather than be like "here you go to appease you" he tells the person to piss off and he will deliver it later. haven't caught up, don't know if he has. if he hasn't delivered then that's a probelm; if he has then he is town.
re: JAT, he is town. read his filter, if you can't see why it is plain as day he is town then you're reading a different thread than i am. i think no one in the entire game is more town than JAT. i think i have only played with him once when he was mafia and like 4x when he was town. the 1 time he was mafia was really apparent based on his voting record.
robik i am willing to wait a day on because i respect his aggro play as town, it makes an environment that is hard for scum to thrive in. he promises, if he doesn't deliver he dies tomorrow. plain and simple. i have some hesitations because he is doing a lot of reacting instead of acting which isn't his town style, but i am willing to hold off 1 day.
you're misrepresenting my reads if you think my RoL read is the same:
On January 01 2015 09:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
alrighty then. I apparently missed my role PM just got it. Hi everyone. Let me go catch up to the apparent 25 pages of most likely nonsense that has been posted.
this post is a complete mafia lurker prototypical post. "hi i am here, everyone notice me for a second then forget about me, i am behind in pages that is why i am not doing well, will deliver on it later! also i don't have much time!" people who post like this especially early (that aren't named GB) never deliver the goods and usually squeak into the late phases of the game as mafia.
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On January 02 2015 07:54 sicklucker wrote:
@ritoky when did you vote me and why? you dont seem to give a read on me in that post . be back later
i voted for you at the lunch period while i was at work @ like 3am, because i wasn't sure i would wake up before the deadline.
i voted for you because i already had a slight scum read on you from your play making no sense and you being stuck in previous game bs; but what pushed you to the top was you coming into the thread right after i posted a massive wall of reads, nitpicking one tiny thing, giving 0 reaction, and moving on. as town, if you really thought i was scum like you apparently do, i feel you would go out of you way to attack and discredit my reads to establish definitively that i am scum or you would simply ignore them because they came from someone you think is scum. you did neither, which isn't what you have done previously as town.
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On January 02 2015 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't think I was mafia in any game we played together ritoky?!
in my spreadsheet i have you down as 1 mafia game with a note saying voting record. could be an error on my part, but my spread sheet is pretty op.
maybe it was that 30 person cancelled game?
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drH do you think geript is mafia?
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oh, i just got to the part in the thread where drH wants everyone to vote for geript, guess he does.
disregard that then. you could have just consolidated the first half of that post into saying you think chyz is deflecting off of his scum partner.
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because where i was @ in the thread he didn't have a clearly established read (i am currently back around page 52ish)
On January 02 2015 08:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
huh? you don't wanna lynch geript today because you're reading him as disinterested town and scummy at the same time? what is this read?
and i think this and a couple other points imply he believes chyz to be deflecting, if he makes this point without thinking geript is mafia then it makes no sense. he does, so i can understand it.
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On January 02 2015 08:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 07:50 ritoky wrote:+ Show Spoiler [wall of text] +On January 01 2015 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:+ Show Spoiler [wall of reads] +finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged:
note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted
koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile
gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile
*geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now*
artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile
lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile
marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile
^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^
*robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile*
thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile
palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile
damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile
*batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile*
SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile
vivax - no post
*kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile*
ritoky - town jesus
drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile
eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile
*rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now*
superbia - no post Forcing yourself to have a read on people that are null is pretty dumb and I have no idea why you consider me being torn on Chyz when there's been so many words on him scummy. Can you explain that to me? I also have no idea why you think that geript quote is super town. Whyo do you feel JAT is "bleeding town out of every orifice"? JAT has completely ransacked a bunch of good town players in one game and I haven't seen anything from him that I think he's incapable of doing as mafia. Why is Robik on the town pile when your reads state nothing townie about him other than a vague promise, and why is RoL scum for saying the exact same thing? Dr. H, your wall of texts tend to K.O. me. Could you run the most important points by me as brief as possible? forcing myself to place people in a definitive pile in my notes is more beneficial for me; particularly on day 1. i think most people should take definitive stances on players personally. the prevalence of null reads being seen as okay only allows mafia to hide better by giving them frequently and ignoring partners. as for you being torn on chyz, i was quoting your post: On January 01 2015 02:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 02:22 geript wrote:
@Artanis. What do you think of sicklucker, Eden and Kelsier? I think those are the best overall flips. Ritoky could maybe be tossed in there too.
Do you disagree with the following: Artanis, DrH, Chyz, Damdred I feel like I'm forgetting someone from this list but oh well. Missed this post earlier. I'd remove Chyz. I'm really torn on him right now. I think Eden is also likely town for prying into every little hole, though I haven't seen him play scum so I'm not sure if he does the same as scum but it fits his town meta even if the bit about Dr.H in the start was a bit weird. I definitely don't want to lynch him D1 in any case. I haven't paid much attention to sicklucker, and I like Kelsier for how he's been pressuring people and asking questions. Here's you stating you're torn on chyz and want geript to remove him from his town list. i see since you have moved on to placing geript as your top scum, will be interested in how you went from talking to him like he is pretty town right here to voting for him as scum when i get there in the thread. as for the read on geript. there's something really town about him electing to withhold information there when he is under pressure. like someone is prying into him for information and rather than be like "here you go to appease you" he tells the person to piss off and he will deliver it later. haven't caught up, don't know if he has. if he hasn't delivered then that's a probelm; if he has then he is town. re: JAT, he is town. read his filter, if you can't see why it is plain as day he is town then you're reading a different thread than i am. i think no one in the entire game is more town than JAT. i think i have only played with him once when he was mafia and like 4x when he was town. the 1 time he was mafia was really apparent based on his voting record. robik i am willing to wait a day on because i respect his aggro play as town, it makes an environment that is hard for scum to thrive in. he promises, if he doesn't deliver he dies tomorrow. plain and simple. i have some hesitations because he is doing a lot of reacting instead of acting which isn't his town style, but i am willing to hold off 1 day. you're misrepresenting my reads if you think my RoL read is the same: On January 01 2015 09:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
alrighty then. I apparently missed my role PM just got it. Hi everyone. Let me go catch up to the apparent 25 pages of most likely nonsense that has been posted. this post is a complete mafia lurker prototypical post. "hi i am here, everyone notice me for a second then forget about me, i am behind in pages that is why i am not doing well, will deliver on it later! also i don't have much time!" people who post like this especially early (that aren't named GB) never deliver the goods and usually squeak into the late phases of the game as mafia. I don't change my tone unless prompted when talking to my suspects. Geript remained civilized through the conduct and thus so did I. I find your reasoning pretty thin. You're inferring a lot from quite little with RoL and Robik and you're not being very specific with JAT. Maybe you can read him better than I can, or you haven't seen his Mafia A-game yet. I think you believe what you're saying though so I don't want to lynch you today.
if you actually have that much control over your tone, that's a bit scary. and what reasoning is thin? gotta be more specific, and show me what "thick" reasoning on day 1 would look like.
my read on robik is primarily from my personal value of him when he is town. i think he is great as aggro town, if you don't agree, meh don't care.
RoL's only post is a prototypical mafia lurker post, it's not like i have a wealth of information to read him from and i am specifically not doing null reads in my notes.
as for JAT, show me why he isn't town.
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artanis is obsessing over my read, ask him.
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chyz, why does geript make your scum list but marv doesn't?
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On January 02 2015 08:51 ritoky wrote:
chyz, why does geript make your scum list but marv doesn't?
and robik is omitted too even though listed as scum.
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On January 02 2015 08:57 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 08:55 ritoky wrote:On January 02 2015 08:51 ritoky wrote:
chyz, why does geript make your scum list but marv doesn't? and robik is omitted too even though listed as scum. But I'm town -- also, I'm back. I'm pretty tired though. Why are you town Ritoky...why did you have me as town? Your logic for the clear was really weak.
i am town because i am town.
i had you as town because in my notes i don't give null reads on day 1, it helps me. my read on you wasn't really logic at all it is my valuation of your abilities as aggro town and me thinking it is worth giving you a day to see if you deliver.
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On January 02 2015 09:02 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 09:01 ritoky wrote:On January 02 2015 08:57 IAmRobik wrote:On January 02 2015 08:55 ritoky wrote:On January 02 2015 08:51 ritoky wrote:
chyz, why does geript make your scum list but marv doesn't? and robik is omitted too even though listed as scum. But I'm town -- also, I'm back. I'm pretty tired though. Why are you town Ritoky...why did you have me as town? Your logic for the clear was really weak. i am town because i am town. i had you as town because in my notes i don't give null reads on day 1, it helps me. my read on you wasn't really logic at all it is my valuation of your abilities as aggro town and me thinking it is worth giving you a day to see if you deliver. You're making it really difficult to buy what you're selling
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saw someone asked for this:
Unofficial vote count:
ritoky (2): sicklucker, superbia
TheChyz (4): Eden1892, Vivax, batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica
geript (4): Palmar, Artanis[XP], Lazermonkey, marvellosity
Lazermonkey (1): TheChyz
sicklucker (1): ritoky
Vivax (1): Koshi
Geript is set to be lynched
thread exploded while i was cooking.
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On January 02 2015 10:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Everybody knows filter length isn't alignment indicative for me. I've said at pre game that I was traveling and my activity would be low. I'm sorry I'm at the Caribbean, I suppose.
My points on marv are 3
1) Filter length
2) scum not picking that (if people didn't actually pick it)
3) Him lurking and posting when I've threw suspicion on him.
If you're all not up to lynch marv, Id like to lynch between Eden or Sicklucker, mostly. What I've read from geript made me have a slight townread on him, so I'm not lynching him.
interested in your eden read, cuz i am kinda on the same page with the other 3 reads you have here. could you explain? or have you?
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On January 02 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 11:21 geript wrote:On January 02 2015 11:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 11:03 geript wrote:On January 02 2015 10:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 10:29 geript wrote:
Artanis. You make me sad. You made me sad by either rolling mafia or playing this poorly as town  Not having the drive to post and reread 80 times like I normally do isn't playing poorly. I'm sheeping a good wagon. I've been the focus of attention for most of 2 days now at least part of which is due to the fact that vets "caught" me early and the fact that the day has stagnated due to NYE. Like, I don't feel like putting in 48 hours of work in this type of situation. Especially when a cop is probably going to red check me tomorrow. That's a really bad situation for town. You gotta look at it from my side too. Sometimes it's best to bite the bullet to let town move the fuck on. If you think sacrificing yourself is a better play than proving you're town through good play then I don't think anything I say will help. What I expected from you was some form of direction, but I find it extremely lacking in your posts. To me, the most damning point is having 4 suspects within one hour, and asking none any questions or pressing them for anything (other than calling Marv 100% scum) If you post good gifs I might still lynch someone else though. On January 02 2015 11:05 justanothertownie wrote:On January 02 2015 11:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 10:55 justanothertownie wrote:On January 02 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Vivax: Concrete things I didn't like about Geript. -Holding back information until questioned (read reasons on Dr.H, read reasons on Koshi) -Laying out lines and never getting back to them (questioned me on what I thought of sl/eden/kels, never got back to me when I expanded upon it, so I pulled him back on it and it felt like he didn't have much thought behind it) -Doesn't care about getting lynched + Show Spoiler +On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching? Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly. -A large part of his filter is just.. not saying anything. I mean scroll through it, put up a notepad and fill in what you've learned. -Throws suspicion in every which way but doesn't pursue anything. + Show Spoiler [examples] +On January 02 2015 04:23 geript wrote:
First off, I'm really surprised that more people don't want to lynch Robik. New Years has fucked with us all I imagine in addition to the surprise start, but Town!Robik tends to play quite differently. He's aggressive; he bounces all over the place. He makes huge sweeping townreads that are the craziest shit I've ever seen. He's really passive. Nothing "turns his wheel" so to speak. Usually he'd be on something like a dog in heat by now. That's my first read. On January 02 2015 04:48 geript wrote:
In looking at some of Lazer's past games, he's probably an ok lynch. Marv is right on that he's pretty much a background player. On January 02 2015 04:54 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote:
I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value. This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well. On January 02 2015 05:32 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
don't like this list:
people i don't want to lynch for some reason:
1; Koshi
4; Artanis[XP]
6; Marvellosity
7; justanothertownie
8; IAmRobik
10; Palmar
11; Damdred
15; KelsierSC
17; DoctorHelvetica
18; Eden1892
Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up:
5; Lazermonkey
9; TheChyz
Wat r u doing
2; GlowingBear
14; Vivax
19; RebirthOfLeGenD
20; Superbia
Some PoE title:
3; Geript
12; batsnacks
13; sicklucker
16; ritoky
I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff.
I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile. 4 different scumreads within the timeframe of an hour. Doesn't really follow up on anything but Marv, of which he just nitpicks the list and talks about fear lynching. -Excuses - Has a 6 page filter, yet talks about how he's busy. + Show Spoiler +On January 02 2015 06:03 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 05:57 Palmar wrote:On January 02 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Palmar, do you still believe Geript to be the best lynch today? Yes. One thing that particularly stands out to me is that I'm sort of in the driver's seat on this lynch, and geript hasn't even mentioned or addressed me at all. Like all he has to do is change my mind, but for some reason he's shying away from any interaction with me. Well, you haven't been around until recently so that's a reasonable consideration. It's weird that he hasn't really defended the main points against him or really push anyone. Just calls Lazer an "ok lynch", calls Eden a "pretty good lynch", decides Marv is scum again yet he seems to have no interest in actively not getting lynched. It's really weird because no matter his alignment he shouldn't want to get lynched. I don't want to get lynched but I'm busy. Plus, I don't think people are going to listen to what I have to say whatsoever unless I get lynched. Granted most people will likely forget it and some people will likely just dismiss it. But just promise me to look back at my list and think about it. I'll try to be back later to explain things in more detail. But I still haven't had a shower or anything to eat or drink yet today and I have a shitton of stuff to do and I really want to play league. That's pretty much it. I'm still going to look into the filters of Chyz and Vivax to see if they're better lynches and make up my mind. Also have a look at batsnacks. But no one's even voted batsnacks yet, I'll look into him D2. On January 02 2015 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Artanis, do me a favor and scan thru his filter from his last game...should make it v apparent I take it you're referring to your enfant terrible? Will do. Thats not an excuse. What difference is there between one vote on Vivax and 0 on batsnacks? There are still 3 hours until deadline and I might push for a batsnacks lynch. Two votes on Vivax. If you make a good case I'll look into it but I'm already doing more reading than I was planning at 3am. Artanis, there's really not any more direction that I could post than I've already posted. You guys have been all like "OMG his stuff is so shit." People say that shit all the time when I'm town. I also tend to find the right answer in ways that other people don't. I look at games entirely differently than most here. All of what's happening is that my posts are being buried in my filter by me trying to explain this shit to you guys. You don't see Marv around actually caring who gets lynched or why. Why is he so focused on a town? Why has his game been exceptionally different from his town play? Why doesn't he want to lynch Robik? Why is Robik so nothing like the usual townplay I've seen? Why is GB changing his mind in 5 minutes when nothing of note in the thread has changed? Why is Vivax someone that most people are "considering" but few people have any actual drive to consider the situation? I don't feel like being tunneled for 3 more days which if I don't get lynched is my expected lifespan in this game. I've told you who I think is off and why. You might not understand it. But I don't think I can explain it better. Marv isn't town!Marv. Vivax has a decent shot of flipping scum. GB, idk. I've always had a hard time reading him and I don't think he's a great player. Chyz is town. DrH is maybe town but if he is then he's a large detriment to the game. Palmer is town. Damdred is town. Koshi is almost assuredly town (not because he doesn't want to kill me). You're town. I think sicklucker is probably town his play looks more similar to his townplay to me and when I reread him again I think he's getting a bad rap because people aren't looking at the towny hints. Kelsier is a tough read. But as scum he tends to be active and do things even when the thread's not moving or changing direction. He's alot like me in that he likes to think ahead a bit I think. I don't really see that in his filter. So he's probably town. JAT is town. Just trust me on this <3. You didn't post a gif
why you no comment on his jat read that is basically my read?
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On January 02 2015 11:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 11:34 ritoky wrote:On January 02 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 11:21 geript wrote:On January 02 2015 11:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 11:03 geript wrote:On January 02 2015 10:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 10:29 geript wrote:
Artanis. You make me sad. You made me sad by either rolling mafia or playing this poorly as town Not having the drive to post and reread 80 times like I normally do isn't playing poorly. I'm sheeping a good wagon. I've been the focus of attention for most of 2 days now at least part of which is due to the fact that vets "caught" me early and the fact that the day has stagnated due to NYE. Like, I don't feel like putting in 48 hours of work in this type of situation. Especially when a cop is probably going to red check me tomorrow. That's a really bad situation for town. You gotta look at it from my side too. Sometimes it's best to bite the bullet to let town move the fuck on. If you think sacrificing yourself is a better play than proving you're town through good play then I don't think anything I say will help. What I expected from you was some form of direction, but I find it extremely lacking in your posts. To me, the most damning point is having 4 suspects within one hour, and asking none any questions or pressing them for anything (other than calling Marv 100% scum) If you post good gifs I might still lynch someone else though. On January 02 2015 11:05 justanothertownie wrote:On January 02 2015 11:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 10:55 justanothertownie wrote:On January 02 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Vivax: Concrete things I didn't like about Geript. -Holding back information until questioned (read reasons on Dr.H, read reasons on Koshi) -Laying out lines and never getting back to them (questioned me on what I thought of sl/eden/kels, never got back to me when I expanded upon it, so I pulled him back on it and it felt like he didn't have much thought behind it) -Doesn't care about getting lynched + Show Spoiler +On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching? Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly. -A large part of his filter is just.. not saying anything. I mean scroll through it, put up a notepad and fill in what you've learned. -Throws suspicion in every which way but doesn't pursue anything. + Show Spoiler [examples] +On January 02 2015 04:23 geript wrote:
First off, I'm really surprised that more people don't want to lynch Robik. New Years has fucked with us all I imagine in addition to the surprise start, but Town!Robik tends to play quite differently. He's aggressive; he bounces all over the place. He makes huge sweeping townreads that are the craziest shit I've ever seen. He's really passive. Nothing "turns his wheel" so to speak. Usually he'd be on something like a dog in heat by now. That's my first read. On January 02 2015 04:48 geript wrote:
In looking at some of Lazer's past games, he's probably an ok lynch. Marv is right on that he's pretty much a background player. On January 02 2015 04:54 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote:
I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value. This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well. On January 02 2015 05:32 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
don't like this list:
people i don't want to lynch for some reason:
1; Koshi
4; Artanis[XP]
6; Marvellosity
7; justanothertownie
8; IAmRobik
10; Palmar
11; Damdred
15; KelsierSC
17; DoctorHelvetica
18; Eden1892
Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up:
5; Lazermonkey
9; TheChyz
Wat r u doing
2; GlowingBear
14; Vivax
19; RebirthOfLeGenD
20; Superbia
Some PoE title:
3; Geript
12; batsnacks
13; sicklucker
16; ritoky
I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff.
I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile. 4 different scumreads within the timeframe of an hour. Doesn't really follow up on anything but Marv, of which he just nitpicks the list and talks about fear lynching. -Excuses - Has a 6 page filter, yet talks about how he's busy. + Show Spoiler +On January 02 2015 06:03 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 05:57 Palmar wrote:On January 02 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Palmar, do you still believe Geript to be the best lynch today? Yes. One thing that particularly stands out to me is that I'm sort of in the driver's seat on this lynch, and geript hasn't even mentioned or addressed me at all. Like all he has to do is change my mind, but for some reason he's shying away from any interaction with me. Well, you haven't been around until recently so that's a reasonable consideration. It's weird that he hasn't really defended the main points against him or really push anyone. Just calls Lazer an "ok lynch", calls Eden a "pretty good lynch", decides Marv is scum again yet he seems to have no interest in actively not getting lynched. It's really weird because no matter his alignment he shouldn't want to get lynched. I don't want to get lynched but I'm busy. Plus, I don't think people are going to listen to what I have to say whatsoever unless I get lynched. Granted most people will likely forget it and some people will likely just dismiss it. But just promise me to look back at my list and think about it. I'll try to be back later to explain things in more detail. But I still haven't had a shower or anything to eat or drink yet today and I have a shitton of stuff to do and I really want to play league. That's pretty much it. I'm still going to look into the filters of Chyz and Vivax to see if they're better lynches and make up my mind. Also have a look at batsnacks. But no one's even voted batsnacks yet, I'll look into him D2. On January 02 2015 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Artanis, do me a favor and scan thru his filter from his last game...should make it v apparent I take it you're referring to your enfant terrible? Will do. Thats not an excuse. What difference is there between one vote on Vivax and 0 on batsnacks? There are still 3 hours until deadline and I might push for a batsnacks lynch. Two votes on Vivax. If you make a good case I'll look into it but I'm already doing more reading than I was planning at 3am. Artanis, there's really not any more direction that I could post than I've already posted. You guys have been all like "OMG his stuff is so shit." People say that shit all the time when I'm town. I also tend to find the right answer in ways that other people don't. I look at games entirely differently than most here. All of what's happening is that my posts are being buried in my filter by me trying to explain this shit to you guys. You don't see Marv around actually caring who gets lynched or why. Why is he so focused on a town? Why has his game been exceptionally different from his town play? Why doesn't he want to lynch Robik? Why is Robik so nothing like the usual townplay I've seen? Why is GB changing his mind in 5 minutes when nothing of note in the thread has changed? Why is Vivax someone that most people are "considering" but few people have any actual drive to consider the situation? I don't feel like being tunneled for 3 more days which if I don't get lynched is my expected lifespan in this game. I've told you who I think is off and why. You might not understand it. But I don't think I can explain it better. Marv isn't town!Marv. Vivax has a decent shot of flipping scum. GB, idk. I've always had a hard time reading him and I don't think he's a great player. Chyz is town. DrH is maybe town but if he is then he's a large detriment to the game. Palmer is town. Damdred is town. Koshi is almost assuredly town (not because he doesn't want to kill me). You're town. I think sicklucker is probably town his play looks more similar to his townplay to me and when I reread him again I think he's getting a bad rap because people aren't looking at the towny hints. Kelsier is a tough read. But as scum he tends to be active and do things even when the thread's not moving or changing direction. He's alot like me in that he likes to think ahead a bit I think. I don't really see that in his filter. So he's probably town. JAT is town. Just trust me on this <3. You didn't post a gif why you no comment on his jat read that is basically my read? Out of everything he said that's what you want me to comment on? Really? A strong scumread shares a strong townread with a null slightly scum leaning player. How interesting. I will respond to him once he posts a gif that adequately entertains me.
yes because out of my giant list post reading every1 in the game, that is what you got hung up on in regards to me. why are you unevenly applying criticism?
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so we're lynching sicklucker like...immediately and unanimously at the start of next phase right?
spends most of phase talking about why geript is mafia, randomly shennanie hammers a town for no stated reason coming off of the guy he hast stated is role hunting and mafia....guy was mafia last phase, still mafia this phase. needs to die immediately. like 0 questions asked.
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