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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 22:07 GMT
#769
On January 01 2015 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Batsnacks just keeps providing new ideas noone ever had. So impressive.


bitch pls

I was the first person to point that out.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 22:23 GMT
#778
On January 01 2015 07:23 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 07:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So we should ignore newer players? He seemed pretty confident and able to deal with heat in his last game. Plus at the time it was only me, I think only one or two people have agreed to vote with me by this point. It doesn't add up. If you think we should policy ignore newbs or something okay - I don't. I believe in trial by fire, you know that. We'll see what other people have to say about it. How about you offer a better lynch?

No I don't think we should ignore newer players. I do think that to get a correct read on them you often need to give them slack and let them hang themselves (or others) with it rather than wrap the noose tight around their necks. I'm fine with trial by fire. But there are productive ways to do that and unproductive ways to do that. Your tunnel is the latter.


Do you still think what I posted is a crackpot theory?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 31 2014 22:25 GMT
#779
On January 01 2015 07:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 07:07 batsnacks wrote:
On January 01 2015 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Batsnacks just keeps providing new ideas noone ever had. So impressive.


bitch pls

I was the first person to point that out.

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 06:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 01 2015 06:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it's not like he would think "oh if i keep koshi on my side that will save me" just hours into the game with 1 vote on him and be paralyzed to join the thread in shitting on koshi to get himself easier credibility

True. Also someone had already said how towny it would be to go against your own defender before he did so if I remember that correctly.

bitch pls


BITCH

Mine was prettier.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 00:11 GMT
#796
On January 01 2015 09:10 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 09:06 sicklucker wrote:
On January 01 2015 07:23 geript wrote:
On January 01 2015 07:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So we should ignore newer players? He seemed pretty confident and able to deal with heat in his last game. Plus at the time it was only me, I think only one or two people have agreed to vote with me by this point. It doesn't add up. If you think we should policy ignore newbs or something okay - I don't. I believe in trial by fire, you know that. We'll see what other people have to say about it. How about you offer a better lynch?

No I don't think we should ignore newer players. I do think that to get a correct read on them you often need to give them slack and let them hang themselves (or others) with it rather than wrap the noose tight around their necks. I'm fine with trial by fire. But there are productive ways to do that and unproductive ways to do that. Your tunnel is the latter.


Then how come 3 of your posts were. I just want to talk to marv palmer etc. It made the rest of us feel pretty excluded.
Any who happy new years no sober posting past this point

Because I have fun playing with them usually.


lewd
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 00:58 GMT
#811
DrH did you break down and start posting with your work phone or were you jk about leaving earlier?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 01:23 GMT
#815
On January 01 2015 10:11 KelsierSC wrote:
Can someone explain why the chyz-koshi thing makes chyz mafia?

As far as I'm aware chyz initially had a town read I koshi but then he thought about it more and analysed his play and then didn't like koshi anymore. Changing your mind is mafia now?



He had an initial town read on koshi, but he said he didn't like koshi's entrance, which got him town points from artanis. So I was speculating that since he got town points for being suspicious of koshi the first time, he might try to scum read koshi to get more town points.

I guess jat pointed it out first but yeah.

chyz didn't have any new reasons for scum reading koshi. He pretty much rehashed exactly what he said before but with a different conclusion; that koshi was scum.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 01:49 GMT
#820
chyz's explanation for why he changed his mind is really similar to why he townread koshi in the first place. These are the two posts I'm getting this from I don't know if you're looking at something else:

On January 01 2015 01:58 TheChyz wrote:
I don't like how koshi entered the thread. But afterwards he makes a decent defense of me and seems to be able to make a coherent read on me. I don't see a point to defend me as scum so early on with little votes and as such that leans town to me.


On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote:
I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi.

And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me.


Those are really similar. So it to me it looked like there might be other reasons for him deciding to scum read koshi.

And I still don't like DrH's push on him but that's what the thread was talking about so I thought I'd try to contribute something. No one has was responding to anything else I was saying.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 02:00 GMT
#821
Oh well

I am here for hour then SSL.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 02:15 GMT
#822
Doesn't anyone want to talk about reads or something? I know there are ppl here I can see the thread views going up.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 03:29 GMT
#826
On January 01 2015 11:41 Damdred wrote:
Just got home bats, tell me what you think of what I posted


Seems reasonable.

But aren't I kind of doing the same thing? Pushing chyz/robik and saying things other people have said before?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 05:31 GMT
#830
On January 01 2015 14:12 sicklucker wrote:
Nice gb read. He has not done anything and he has done this in previous games therefor he is town.


Better than your gb read
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 07:31 GMT
#832
Maybe not literally nothing but pretty close to it.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 21:09 GMT
#1121
I think geript is town and I think we should be lynching robik or lazormonkey.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 21:13 GMT
#1131
On January 02 2015 06:10 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
I think geript is town and I think we should be lynching robik or lazormonkey.

Feel free to try an convince us.


Who's "us" jat?

Anyway maybe you or someone else can help me. Did anyone read this?

On January 02 2015 01:43 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 01:38 Damdred wrote:
On January 02 2015 01:36 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 02 2015 01:32 Damdred wrote:
@Lazer, how do you get from disliking Koshi pretty hardcore and seemily on the verge of scum reading him and then with just two posts from artanis you say that you don't want to vote him as much today? Then right before you say you don't want to lynch geript?

Aren't you being guilty of what you charged koshi with not pushing your scum read, feels like you are afraid of calling koshi scum and sticking to it. and you feel way to agreeable

Because I think what Artanis posted was relevant maybe?

Not sure why you think I don't want to lynch geript? I just said I'm super cool with killing him!


Explain why what art posted was able to change your mind so much?

lol.

I'm done talking with you. Its obvious that I agree with what he said, the fact that you are not grasping this is beyond me. I thought it was a good point and thats why I changed my opinion on him. If you agree or not with Artanis thats another story. But why hold the fact that I changed my opinion against me? Would you like it better if I tunneled the shit out of Koshi no matter what?

batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 21:16 GMT
#1134
And did anyone read this?

On January 02 2015 02:46 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm having doubts about Chyz as well. I do think his play is bad and I don't agree with almost anything he has said this fair. But I'm not sure that makes him scum. He could just as well be bad town. I don't disagree with your case DH in the sense that I think all of Chyz plays are wierd and/or bad but can you explain his actions from a scum PoV? If something doesn't make sense from a town PoV but also doesn't make sense as scum, I don't think its a good reason to lynch someone for.

Granted, I would not be super sad if Chyz got lynched today. I do think he is a better lynch than say Robik. But I think geript is a much better lynch for today.

##Unvote
##Vote: geript
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 21:19 GMT
#1136
On January 02 2015 06:16 marvellosity wrote:
if someone can read geript's multiple criticisms of my list and conclude they are genuine objections rather than objections for the sake of objecting/trying to discredit me, i'm all ears.

1 fake e-sports dollar says you can't though.


what if they are just objections for the sake of objecting/trying to discredit you?

If geript is mafia I'm sure he could just work around your list. There are enough people on your list to work with.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 21:19 GMT
#1138
On January 02 2015 06:18 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 06:16 batsnacks wrote:
And did anyone read this?

On January 02 2015 02:46 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm having doubts about Chyz as well. I do think his play is bad and I don't agree with almost anything he has said this fair. But I'm not sure that makes him scum. He could just as well be bad town. I don't disagree with your case DH in the sense that I think all of Chyz plays are wierd and/or bad but can you explain his actions from a scum PoV? If something doesn't make sense from a town PoV but also doesn't make sense as scum, I don't think its a good reason to lynch someone for.

Granted, I would not be super sad if Chyz got lynched today. I do think he is a better lynch than say Robik. But I think geript is a much better lynch for today.

##Unvote
##Vote: geript

yes. But currently I am trying to imagine a world in which none of batsnacks/geript is scum.


How did that post make you feel koshi?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 21:35 GMT
#1165
Hey I'm phone posting

But I want to do town a favor and take the plunge first. I'll be happy to vote either lazor or robik today. I want to vote lazor because his dialogue with Damdred that I quoted was extremely defensive over such a small question. And that post where he voted geript. He spent a huge paragraph explaining why he's not voting chyz just to be super justified and then sheeped. Looked really scummy to me.

##vote: lazormonkey
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 21:48 GMT
#1175
The geript lynch is too easy. I feel like more people should think that. One list post and tons of sheep.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 22:20 GMT
#1193
On January 02 2015 07:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If mafia is in a bad day 1 why not just bus so the rest can at least maintain a semblance of town cred on day 2? Why would you want to lynch someone to get information on another player? We could also find out if chyz is scum or not by just lynching him. And he is scum.


You spent most of today pushing chyz and no one voted him.

Palmar posts 1 read and half the game sheeps him.

Doesn't this strike you as odd? I saw that you commented on this before I think you said it annoyed you or something.
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