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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 03 2015 14:12 GMT
#2761
I'll be afk for some hours. see you.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 14:13 GMT
#2762
Vivax you won't get JAT lynched but I appreciate your scum read.

What do you think at this point of SL, Dam and Geript

who would you lynch? are any of those people town?
Zerg for Life
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 03 2015 14:13 GMT
#2763
On January 03 2015 23:04 KelsierSC wrote:
I don't know honestly, I get the impression that he really didn't know what to make of geript d1 and felt nervous lynching him. He sort of scum reads him but isn't sure and changes to bats.
I mean his story adds up and that is the impression I get.

I think JAT is town but I feel like you believe your case on JAT


Like I already mentioned during the night, for me the key now is to figure out geript cause if geript is mafia I'm 100 % sure JAT also is. Since JATs stance on geript is incredibly wishy washy. This is mostly connection based but I simply feel I'm up to something cause of the timing JAT scumreads geript, then soft defends him.

Then he sees the votecount. He doesn't like the people on TheChyz, after soft defending geript he still switches to him. His former scumreads were also LM and ritoky. At that votecount LM had one vote, ritoky had two votes, bats ZERO. So I thought "Why does he go to geript after saying he might be donkey town when there are also two scumreads he claimed to have, of which ritoky is 2 votes away from reaching geript".

Now he's on geript. If he's not confident about him, he could push ritoky or LM who are closer to getting lynched than bats. If he's confident about him, he could simply stay on geript. Instead he initiates a brand new wagon on bats with arguments I perceived as quite misprepresenting.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 14:16 GMT
#2764
This is also more evidence that SL doesn't give a fuck about finding scum he just wants to get himself cleared

On January 03 2015 14:56 sicklucker wrote:
Well kelsier how do you feel about me now after edens post that might have got him killed


On January 03 2015 15:08 sicklucker wrote:
Yep I kill a guy whos giving me a HARD HARD TOWNREAD he only listed like 5 towns. Yep thats how I play scum I kill people who say never lynch me


The argument is awful, Eden had no idea of SL's alignment so how does that help him. Again he just desperately wants to be clear and doesn't want to do anything.
Zerg for Life
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 03 2015 14:25 GMT
#2765
I'm currently trying to get insight from the D1 votecount, and I was almost forgetting TheChyz in all this batsnacks matter.

And when I look at TheChyz, I noticed that two flipped townies were on his wagon, plus me, and himself (whatever he is).

I don't know what Artanis and DrH are, but they both switched to bats
.

What this tells me is that, assuming 5 scum. They didn't want to get TheChyz lynched, cause he's mafia.

Another possible scenario is geript mafia. TheChyz is the initial counterwagon started by DrH, fueled by Artanis. It doesn't gain enough traction, when geript is close to getting lynched, JAT starts another wagon, bam. DrH and Artanis switch to bats and geript is saved.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 03 2015 14:26 GMT
#2766
I think a TheChyz lynch should be in the air as an option, as well as geript. JAT for now I'll leave on the backburner as I don't get enough approval with what I've got so far.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 03 2015 14:27 GMT
#2767
And Robiks vote was basically a sneaky ninja vote that tipped the scales at the last minute. Not cool at all, I'm also giving him a FoS for that.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 03 2015 14:32 GMT
#2768
Gonna be back when people are actually playing.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 03 2015 14:35 GMT
#2769
On January 03 2015 22:41 Lazermonkey wrote:
My objection to kill Vivax at this point is that he is still refusing to talk about all other lynch targets and keeps on defending himself and/or pushes for people who aren't getting lynched this decade. Couldn't scum Vivax try to hop on some easy target instead of Eden/jat?

Though I don't think this is a super strong argument for Vivax either since it still would mean his town play is garbage.


Yes good town players only speak about the possible lynches. -.-
No, good town players make hard lynches possible.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 14:39 GMT
#2770
I guess it is like early morning USA, I will be back in a few hours and hopefully this picks up.

I want people to read my cases on SL and Dam,

I want people to consider the viv lynch more , Like if you consider it and still find him scum/town that is fine but people need to actually stop humping the shit out of a doughnut and get active.

I think I raised some good discussion points talk about them.

Zerg for Life
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
January 03 2015 15:02 GMT
#2771
Lol @ the medic not protecting koshi
Biggest lol in the world
I'm adorable.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16339 Posts
January 03 2015 15:09 GMT
#2772
Look Vivax. You decided to scumread me, then went into my filter and twisted everything you could find in the most ridiculous way possible to find an angle to attack me. You even scumread me for completely contradictory reasons in the same post multiple times now. This is what you did regardless of your alignment. Don't even question it.

Now, why would you do that as town? Because you are angry at my posting style? I find that very hard to believe. You are generally a decent townplayer and this is shit tier. It is way more likely that you are just scum.

Regardless of your alignment you will never get me lynched this game in a billion years so stop wasting your time. You aren't enabling a hard lynch, you just make yourself look worse and worse.

So, you are telling us to only consider what you did night1? You sure about that? Like 85 % of your posts night1 you tunneled the most obvious townie in the game for hilariously bad reasons. This makes 85 % of your play completely useless bullshit.

Why don't you try and present us a realistic lynch target instead? Are you afraid to incriminate your buddies?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16339 Posts
January 03 2015 15:10 GMT
#2773
##Vote: Vivax
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 16:06 GMT
#2774
I just got up and finished catching up about to drop wife off at work then I'll be here all day.

Here's the deal, the nk do not clear or damn vivax honestly. Scum kills who they want generally going for super towny or dangerous people and I think Eden and koshi fit the bill for that. So it worries me people trying to clear justify based on them its really wifomy and doesn't help town at all.

@kel you really don't have a case on me kel honestly. You have what you think are me jumping on bats with bad reasons and a context less post where I say where I'm don't want to lynch bats right now cause of x. Then it changes hours later? Peoples play across days change things happen or don't happen so I'm not sure how its even a lie but a changing situation. And if you are so worried about lying why are you letting laser get away with it on me?

I am going to filter dive vivax soon as I get home to see what I can fins with an awake mins.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 03 2015 16:18 GMT
#2775
On January 04 2015 00:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Look Vivax. You decided to scumread me, then went into my filter and twisted everything you could find in the most ridiculous way possible to find an angle to attack me. You even scumread me for completely contradictory reasons in the same post multiple times now. This is what you did regardless of your alignment. Don't even question it.

Now, why would you do that as town? Because you are angry at my posting style? I find that very hard to believe. You are generally a decent townplayer and this is shit tier. It is way more likely that you are just scum.

Regardless of your alignment you will never get me lynched this game in a billion years so stop wasting your time. You aren't enabling a hard lynch, you just make yourself look worse and worse.

So, you are telling us to only consider what you did night1? You sure about that? Like 85 % of your posts night1 you tunneled the most obvious townie in the game for hilariously bad reasons. This makes 85 % of your play completely useless bullshit.

Why don't you try and present us a realistic lynch target instead? Are you afraid to incriminate your buddies?


All you're saying is without backup. Whatever I said is based on facts I quoted multiple times and just cause you spam shit at every possible occasion during D1 doesn't make you town, it just makes you spammy. In fact there's only little in your filter that is salvageable to something that allows me to read you and the little I found I had to find without you giving any help at doing that, see your geript read.

You didn't willingly talk about you scumreading geript and then still trying to get people to townread him before throwing your vote at him. You refused to show the point where you somehow gave a read on geript cause you think that being spammy already warrants you to be universally townread which is sadly something a lot of people fall for.

I started scumreading you precisely at the point where I noticed you being spammy as fuck when I tried to analyse Eden and you just came yelling into the thread. Then I was like "Oh fuck huge filter" and looking through it it was really just rather empty from information. It's mostly you making conversational one-liners that don't lead anywhere except for the point where you start making your case on bats which was based on thin reasoning since his post on Lazermonkey was good in my opinion (even more odd is that you found Lazermonkey suspicious yourself at some point earlier but ignored what bats wrote about him and instead went as far as saying he had no scumreads to push for his lynhc.).

You aren't the most obvious townie, you just talk way too much for this game to be analyseable and the little you have that can be analysed looks bad.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 03 2015 16:21 GMT
#2776
And you said "we should look at the latecomers of the bats wagon" before peacing out after the bats lynch.

Guess what, Eden was among them. When I took a closer look at Eden during the night you didn't chime in with some insight, you came into the thread playing town coach and telling people to not bitch about the bats wagon. Another reason I found you scummy for, when you had opportunity to analyse someone you claimed should deserve a closer look earlier.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16339 Posts
January 03 2015 16:22 GMT
#2777
On January 04 2015 01:18 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 00:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Look Vivax. You decided to scumread me, then went into my filter and twisted everything you could find in the most ridiculous way possible to find an angle to attack me. You even scumread me for completely contradictory reasons in the same post multiple times now. This is what you did regardless of your alignment. Don't even question it.

Now, why would you do that as town? Because you are angry at my posting style? I find that very hard to believe. You are generally a decent townplayer and this is shit tier. It is way more likely that you are just scum.

Regardless of your alignment you will never get me lynched this game in a billion years so stop wasting your time. You aren't enabling a hard lynch, you just make yourself look worse and worse.

So, you are telling us to only consider what you did night1? You sure about that? Like 85 % of your posts night1 you tunneled the most obvious townie in the game for hilariously bad reasons. This makes 85 % of your play completely useless bullshit.

Why don't you try and present us a realistic lynch target instead? Are you afraid to incriminate your buddies?


All you're saying is without backup. Whatever I said is based on facts I quoted multiple times and just cause you spam shit at every possible occasion during D1 doesn't make you town, it just makes you spammy. In fact there's only little in your filter that is salvageable to something that allows me to read you and the little I found I had to find without you giving any help at doing that, see your geript read.

You didn't willingly talk about you scumreading geript and then still trying to get people to townread him before throwing your vote at him. You refused to show the point where you somehow gave a read on geript cause you think that being spammy already warrants you to be universally townread which is sadly something a lot of people fall for.

I started scumreading you precisely at the point where I noticed you being spammy as fuck when I tried to analyse Eden and you just came yelling into the thread. Then I was like "Oh fuck huge filter" and looking through it it was really just rather empty from information. It's mostly you making conversational one-liners that don't lead anywhere except for the point where you start making your case on bats which was based on thin reasoning since his post on Lazermonkey was good in my opinion (even more odd is that you found Lazermonkey suspicious yourself at some point earlier but ignored what bats wrote about him and instead went as far as saying he had no scumreads to push for his lynhc.).

You aren't the most obvious townie, you just talk way too much for this game to be analyseable and the little you have that can be analysed looks bad.

yawn
Just keep burying yourself then.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 03 2015 16:26 GMT
#2778
On January 04 2015 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 01:18 Vivax wrote:
On January 04 2015 00:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Look Vivax. You decided to scumread me, then went into my filter and twisted everything you could find in the most ridiculous way possible to find an angle to attack me. You even scumread me for completely contradictory reasons in the same post multiple times now. This is what you did regardless of your alignment. Don't even question it.

Now, why would you do that as town? Because you are angry at my posting style? I find that very hard to believe. You are generally a decent townplayer and this is shit tier. It is way more likely that you are just scum.

Regardless of your alignment you will never get me lynched this game in a billion years so stop wasting your time. You aren't enabling a hard lynch, you just make yourself look worse and worse.

So, you are telling us to only consider what you did night1? You sure about that? Like 85 % of your posts night1 you tunneled the most obvious townie in the game for hilariously bad reasons. This makes 85 % of your play completely useless bullshit.

Why don't you try and present us a realistic lynch target instead? Are you afraid to incriminate your buddies?


All you're saying is without backup. Whatever I said is based on facts I quoted multiple times and just cause you spam shit at every possible occasion during D1 doesn't make you town, it just makes you spammy. In fact there's only little in your filter that is salvageable to something that allows me to read you and the little I found I had to find without you giving any help at doing that, see your geript read.

You didn't willingly talk about you scumreading geript and then still trying to get people to townread him before throwing your vote at him. You refused to show the point where you somehow gave a read on geript cause you think that being spammy already warrants you to be universally townread which is sadly something a lot of people fall for.

I started scumreading you precisely at the point where I noticed you being spammy as fuck when I tried to analyse Eden and you just came yelling into the thread. Then I was like "Oh fuck huge filter" and looking through it it was really just rather empty from information. It's mostly you making conversational one-liners that don't lead anywhere except for the point where you start making your case on bats which was based on thin reasoning since his post on Lazermonkey was good in my opinion (even more odd is that you found Lazermonkey suspicious yourself at some point earlier but ignored what bats wrote about him and instead went as far as saying he had no scumreads to push for his lynhc.).

You aren't the most obvious townie, you just talk way too much for this game to be analyseable and the little you have that can be analysed looks bad.

yawn
Just keep burying yourself then.


Yes making witty comments against a pile of arguments you can't fight back cause you're being scumread by a guy that is being pushed as mislynch is how you solve a game of mafia. You feel safe behind a majority cause the only guy threatening you is being perceived as scum, so why bother arguing?

Most obvious townie right here. Trying to bring the thing to an emotional level when I'm presenting facts.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16339 Posts
January 03 2015 16:28 GMT
#2779
Look, we get it. It makes you mad that people are correctly townreading me. Get over it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
January 03 2015 16:35 GMT
#2780
On January 04 2015 01:28 justanothertownie wrote:
Look, we get it. It makes you mad that people are correctly townreading me. Get over it.


I'm not mad, you're trying to paint it that way. Right now I'm mostly presenting how you don't try to present a solution to a situation, but instead try to stir me up when I just summarized again why you are a good candidate for being scum.

A townie in this situation would at least try to explain willingly his thought process when being questioned about it. Like I talked to Koshi when he was ready to listen at night. I didn't tell him to fuck off and look for the stuff himself, I explained whatever I could about the things he found suspicious. He didn't accept it, but that's how it was.

You instead just provoke and wall off when questioned cause there are not enough people willing to vote you yet. You don't even consider the eventuality that I could be town and really believing what I write, and try to persuade me that you're not scum, except with the arguments that everyone else does that and that you pushed a mislynch and that you're so spammy. There's absolutely no reason to universally townread you like you try to make it look.
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