Imperial Mafia - Page 12

KelsierSC

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January 04 2015 02:53 GMT

#3306

On January 04 2015 11:52 sicklucker wrote:
Well im looking at your filter you were pushing me super hard night 1 before you woulda got a check so why check me if your so sure? are you hard claiming this

you asked if i pushed you d1 I didnt

I pushed on you n1

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 04 2015 03:03 GMT

#3312

oh is SL actually claiming cop i thought he was just joking

KelsierSC

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January 04 2015 03:10 GMT

#3324

On January 04 2015 12:05 IAmRobik wrote:

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On January 04 2015 11:02 KelsierSC wrote:

On January 04 2015 06:08 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:56 Vivax wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:35 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:34 justanothertownie wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:31 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:30 Vivax wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:25 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:22 Vivax wrote:
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Why not talk about JAT D1 when you felt he was scummy?
Why join his wagon last-minute-vote-mafia-wifom-style when you thought he was scummy?
Why are you trying to misrepresent the stuff I said about Koshi's reads as a slip?
Why not chime in when me and JAT are fighting and we're supposed to be your suspicious guys?

1) i did talk about jat d1 and n1 specifically in regards to my "involvment" in the bats lymch
2) already explained this as well
3) cause you said nk magnets instead of lynch targets
4) i called outa lotof people and i had my own agenda that i was tryijg to get through. i didnt even notice you two girls squabbling

What agenda is possibly more important than talking about the guys you suspect before the night and instantly after?

i said my top 2 scum pre-nk were ritoky and superbia. my post flip is you, but also think superbia and ritoky are scum.

Then why do you suddenly think Vivax is scum? Only because of the nightkills?

yes...because koshi got killed...also havemt called you scum since the flip since koshi had you solid town iirc based off of your eod1

Wait a minute. So for the fact that Koshi was the NK I'm scum, but when it's about reading JAT, it's cause you feel like sheeping Koshi.

How do you feel about yourself and geript then.

i have no feelings towards geript. He could be town. he could be scum. his wagon was by far filled with scummier voters than bats'

I feel like i'm town and I'm sticking to this read

Robik you say that the geript wagon was uglier than the bats wagon.

But here you point to this wagon being ugly

On January 02 2015 10:44 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 02 2015 10:43 Alakaslam wrote:

TheChyz (5): Eden1892, ~~DoctorHelvetica~~, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica

until deadline.

Oh jeez, that's one ugly looking wagon to be on.

Where to move my vote -.-

that wagon contains Eden and DrH .

Why is the bats wagon suddenly clean even though the same people voted on a "dirty" wagon

Chyz, vivax and batsnacks were FOS of mine, but Chyz was self-voting so meh. I don't know if I TR Eden until later or if I had TR him up to that point. but it just felt meh

Fair enough, you did townread DrH so him being on bats kind of helps you out aswell.

Who didn't you like on the geript wagon?

KelsierSC

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January 04 2015 03:12 GMT

#3327

On January 04 2015 12:09 sicklucker wrote:
Ksc you rescinded right?

I thought you were joking so I played along

KelsierSC

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January 04 2015 03:16 GMT

#3333

can you explain why you choose this moment to out?

why did you out with a green on laser ?

why did you check laser?

KelsierSC

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January 04 2015 03:16 GMT

#3334

On January 04 2015 12:15 geript wrote:

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yawn. Troll, tunnel, troll, tunnel, troll, tunnel, tunnel, troll, tunnel, troll, troll, tunnel, bully, troll, tunnel...
Let's be honestly here people. Has DrH done anything that's actually useful or towny other than have a 27 billion page filter?

have you?

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 04 2015 03:17 GMT

#3336

On January 04 2015 12:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
How long until you decide to vote or actually pressure a read? You can't wait forever for a mislynch, might as well bus vivax right now. You might convince an idiot that it would somehow make you look better

you are so mean to people

KelsierSC

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January 04 2015 03:22 GMT

#3341

On January 04 2015 12:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

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I didn't call geript an idiot per se, I am pretty sure he is scum though. I'm not the only diva in this game, let's talk about something that gets us somewhere like why geript refuses to push or out effort into his reads. He said vivax seems good because idk he skimmed what others were saying about him and assumes its good without reading his filter? Says marv is 100% scum and backs down instantly. All ive seen besides that is speculating about flips, night actions and dodging the questions that matter. I can be nicer if thats what i need to do but at this point anytime i make an accusation im just a troll and a tunneler. Garbage

Yeh he is scummy I agree.

just let him give his reads. I want to know what he thinks about the SL claim.

KelsierSC

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January 04 2015 04:12 GMT

#3381

geript did you give your thoughts on the people who are potential lynches today/

that feels important to me and I can't remember what you said.

oh yeh GB do that too please.

KelsierSC

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January 04 2015 04:14 GMT

#3382

On January 04 2015 12:10 KelsierSC wrote:

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On January 04 2015 12:05 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 04 2015 11:02 KelsierSC wrote:

On January 04 2015 06:08 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:56 Vivax wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:35 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:34 justanothertownie wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:31 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:30 Vivax wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:25 IAmRobik wrote:
[quote]
1) i did talk about jat d1 and n1 specifically in regards to my "involvment" in the bats lymch
2) already explained this as well
3) cause you said nk magnets instead of lynch targets
4) i called outa lotof people and i had my own agenda that i was tryijg to get through. i didnt even notice you two girls squabbling

What agenda is possibly more important than talking about the guys you suspect before the night and instantly after?

i said my top 2 scum pre-nk were ritoky and superbia. my post flip is you, but also think superbia and ritoky are scum.

Then why do you suddenly think Vivax is scum? Only because of the nightkills?

yes...because koshi got killed...also havemt called you scum since the flip since koshi had you solid town iirc based off of your eod1

Wait a minute. So for the fact that Koshi was the NK I'm scum, but when it's about reading JAT, it's cause you feel like sheeping Koshi.

How do you feel about yourself and geript then.

i have no feelings towards geript. He could be town. he could be scum. his wagon was by far filled with scummier voters than bats'

I feel like i'm town and I'm sticking to this read

Robik you say that the geript wagon was uglier than the bats wagon.

But here you point to this wagon being ugly

On January 02 2015 10:44 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 02 2015 10:43 Alakaslam wrote:

TheChyz (5): Eden1892, ~~DoctorHelvetica~~, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica

until deadline.

Oh jeez, that's one ugly looking wagon to be on.

Where to move my vote -.-

that wagon contains Eden and DrH .

Why is the bats wagon suddenly clean even though the same people voted on a "dirty" wagon

Chyz, vivax and batsnacks were FOS of mine, but Chyz was self-voting so meh. I don't know if I TR Eden until later or if I had TR him up to that point. but it just felt meh

Fair enough, you did townread DrH so him being on bats kind of helps you out aswell.

Who didn't you like on the geript wagon?

robik are you here?

KelsierSC

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January 04 2015 04:51 GMT

#3385

On January 04 2015 13:23 geript wrote:

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Filters exist for a reason brah.

give me your thoughts on

SL, viv , Dam, Robik

...brah

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 04 2015 13:05 GMT

#3413

SL isn't actually claiming cop though

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 04 2015 13:52 GMT

#3414

On January 04 2015 20:46 Palmar wrote:
I am actually going to vote him. I'm unsure if it's my final vote today, but he's been awol for like... 48 hours or something stupid?

I understand there might be a reason for that, and it also seems like the people defending him (mostly koshi) were actually town. And I still have the fact I didn't really think he was mafia day 1.

Still, gonna drop a vote, see if he wakes up. Aside from him I think we really should work towards reducing the number of people up for the lynch today. As I see it now, we have the following:

geript
superbia
vivax
iamrobik
ritoky
VE
Damdred
TheChyz

I need to eliminate a few more off this list, but it looks ok for now.

Also, if someone is in the mood for meta, marv has repeatedly done something this game that I don't recall him doing before. He's doing my thing where he asks other people to confirm for him. "I think this was x, can someone confirm". Maybe it's nothing though. In any case I'm not sure marv is the lynch today.

I am sorely tempted to actually go hard after Damdred. If I get the chance to read his filter I'll see what I think of it.

I'd take VE and Chyz off that list.

The rest are all ok I want to give some thoughts on Robik

k. I was a bit fucked up yesterday and passed out but I remember trying to get a read on Robik and what bugged me was his reason for voting on bats,

On January 04 2015 12:10 KelsierSC wrote:

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On January 04 2015 12:05 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 04 2015 11:02 KelsierSC wrote:

On January 04 2015 06:08 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:56 Vivax wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:35 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:34 justanothertownie wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:31 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 04 2015 05:30 Vivax wrote:

What agenda is possibly more important than talking about the guys you suspect before the night and instantly after?

i said my top 2 scum pre-nk were ritoky and superbia. my post flip is you, but also think superbia and ritoky are scum.

Then why do you suddenly think Vivax is scum? Only because of the nightkills?

yes...because koshi got killed...also havemt called you scum since the flip since koshi had you solid town iirc based off of your eod1

Wait a minute. So for the fact that Koshi was the NK I'm scum, but when it's about reading JAT, it's cause you feel like sheeping Koshi.

How do you feel about yourself and geript then.

i have no feelings towards geript. He could be town. he could be scum. his wagon was by far filled with scummier voters than bats'

I feel like i'm town and I'm sticking to this read

Robik you say that the geript wagon was uglier than the bats wagon.

But here you point to this wagon being ugly

On January 02 2015 10:44 IAmRobik wrote:

On January 02 2015 10:43 Alakaslam wrote:

TheChyz (5): Eden1892, ~~DoctorHelvetica~~, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica

until deadline.

Oh jeez, that's one ugly looking wagon to be on.

Where to move my vote -.-

that wagon contains Eden and DrH .

Why is the bats wagon suddenly clean even though the same people voted on a "dirty" wagon

Chyz, vivax and batsnacks were FOS of mine, but Chyz was self-voting so meh. I don't know if I TR Eden until later or if I had TR him up to that point. but it just felt meh

Fair enough, you did townread DrH so him being on bats kind of helps you out aswell.

Who didn't you like on the geript wagon?

So like this discussion felt pretty important to me, he thinks the geript wagon is worse than bats wagon but bats wagon has eden on it , who at the time robik did not TR and was part of the ugly wagon
He said the geript wagon looked scummier but I guess apart from palmar I don't know who he scumread on that wagon.
One of the major issues is that he doesn't give a read on a lot of these people beforehand.

But when I look through his filter his main read I guess d1 is that DrH is town and palmar is mafia, I am a question mark. I guess it is plausible I just wish he had expanded on all of his reads d1.

You also look at the way the votes went down and it appears that Robik's vote didn't actually matter.

I admit I have no idea of Robik's usual play style, the only game we played together he was scum and AFK'd d1 and got lynched end of day.
His early play hasn't really overwhelmed me it just felt like he was shitting on people and calling people bad because they didn't have the same read as him. Like calling JAT bad because he was asking Eden questions.

I don't really understand why after the night kills vivax is mafia and the only person worth lynching according to Robik.
He has a giant scum list (admittedly viv is on it) but he loves Eden's "baller" analysis which has superbia,rit and geript as mafia but after the NK's viv is mafia and he doesn't want to go any further.

Despite all of this when I read through Robik's game he hasn't made any attempt to ingratiate himself with anyone, d2 his play has been more active and he has tried to push his thoughts specifically getting in JAT's face.

This post also felt really town

On January 04 2015 06:57 IAmRobik wrote:

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i don't need to have a read on every player in the game. I can take stances on people if you'd like, but they wouldn't be justified and they'd probably be wrong as fuck anyway

Which is much better than what geript did which was spend ages not giving reads and getting pissed off when people asked him questions, then making a giant list post of nonsense.

Overall I am still undecided on Robik but something makes me feel he is town with an abrasive manner. Either way I don't think he should be a lynch discussion today

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 04 2015 13:56 GMT

#3415

I guess that narrows the scum list down to

Geript
Super
Viv
Rit
Dam

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 04 2015 13:57 GMT

#3416

I also think SL is scum but he isn't on your list, guess you forgot to put him there.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 04 2015 14:29 GMT

#3419

On January 04 2015 23:20 Vivax wrote:

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ZZZ since when are you scumreading me.

that is the list of people who palmar thinks should be considered for the lynch, I took chyz and VE off because I don't think they should be considered. you are up for consideration though.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 04 2015 14:32 GMT

#3420

On January 04 2015 23:21 Vivax wrote:
It's like the first time I see you mention me as a scumread but you were always keen on defending Robik.
Something to remember if I flip.

Was I keen on defending Robik?,I said I think there are better lynches and now I went and read his filter thoroughly and despite some odd points I think he is towny and I don't want to lynch him.

I scum read you d1 so

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 04 2015 14:44 GMT

#3423

On January 04 2015 23:40 Vivax wrote:

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What are the odd points, or did you already point them out.

yes just a few posts ago I gave what I thought about Robik

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 04 2015 15:05 GMT

#3426

On January 05 2015 00:00 Vivax wrote:

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Btw tomorrow is my birthday too.

And I just noticed you don't take into account the points I mentioned about Robik and JAT questioned him about them too, but you were there when they were brought up all the time. Yet they don't appear in your reasoning. Only reason you townread him is cause of one post where he acts high and mighty and says he can read anyone however he pleases. Pretty easy to say that so unwarranted.

So why doesn't he talk to his seeming scumreads at night to pursue a "more important agenda, and if he sheeps Koshi why doesn't he go more into geriptafter the night who was another one of Koshi's scumreads? Instead he parks his vote on me and disappears until he is brought up again.

for the second point I think it is safe to sat Koshi was more confident in his scum read of you than of geript so that isn't a major issue. I totally agree I don't like how he went after you and didn't consider other options.

Yeh you, Robik and JAT had something going on about P 150 or soemthing, let me go reread that

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

January 04 2015 15:21 GMT

#3431

nice find viv.

I think the evidence is pretty ovewhelming at this point so I am going to give my case and vote.

I made an early case on geript, so did palmar, and a few other people made real scum cases. He doesn't do anything but almost gives up and makes this nonsense vote on vivax.

He is nearly lynched but then a whole bunch of randomers come out of nowhere and hop on a counter wagon that saves him and lynches bats.

He then doesn't do anything substantial n1.

after the night kills we see a huge early push on vivax with no one even considering other people. The night kills also perfectly incriminate viv. A few people seem to forget about geript and just say "oh he seemed a bit townier"

He gets pressured by DrH but deflects for a long time with silly comments until eventually he gives this huge list post which contains a lot of rubbish and as viv points out a pretty large inaccuracy.

This is the right lynch

##vote geript

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