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On January 03 2015 05:56 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote:On January 03 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Do you want to move on and lynch geript tomorrow Palmar or have you done enough of convincing us that you're awesome I'm not awesome. I'm just explaining that the people who lynched batsnacks are terrible. So reading through the lynch. I had a scum read on bats, a few others did. Then JAT was like "lets lynch bats" then random fuckwads came out the woodwork and lynched bats for bad reasons/no reasons/ every thing he said reason (eden) So if i'm JAT in that position I would be like fuck this and go back to geript. assuming JAT is good. JAT you even said something like "why are you people here now" or "this feels bad" just explain why the alarm bells didn't go off and make you switch.
As you can see by the things you quote in this very posts the alarm bells DID go off. But people arriving at deadline aren't necessarily scum and I just wasn't sure if geript was the better lynch since he acted so defeated and I had a difficult time seeing him be like that as mafia.
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On January 03 2015 06:00 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 05:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if he came to have a scumread on your townread why would voting for them be a bad idea? if it was successful it's still a bad idea because it makes your reads seem less perfect? fuck off with that No because generally (and I say generally, maybe I'm completely wrong on everything this game? who knows?) if I throw out like 6-10 townreads there's usually only going to be 1 mafia in there. Again, maybe this is the game where I get everything wrong, but let's assume it's not. Just from a statistical point of view it's better to lynch outside the players I've townread, because if most of the townreads are correct (even if 1 or maybe 2 are wrong) there's going to be more mafia in the remaining players. But I cba arguing this. batsnacks was a terrible lynch. Now all my reads are fucked up and I will be awful for the rest of the game because I can't tell dumb from scum. Here's to hoping mafia just shoots me to rid town of me.
relax man we can turn this shit around
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On January 03 2015 06:00 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 05:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if he came to have a scumread on your townread why would voting for them be a bad idea? if it was successful it's still a bad idea because it makes your reads seem less perfect? fuck off with that No because generally (and I say generally, maybe I'm completely wrong on everything this game? who knows?) if I throw out like 6-10 townreads there's usually only going to be 1 mafia in there. Again, maybe this is the game where I get everything wrong, but let's assume it's not. Just from a statistical point of view it's better to lynch outside the players I've townread, because if most of the townreads are correct (even if 1 or maybe 2 are wrong) there's going to be more mafia in the remaining players. But I cba arguing this. batsnacks was a terrible lynch. Now all my reads are fucked up and I will be awful for the rest of the game because I can't tell dumb from scum. Here's to hoping mafia just shoots me to rid town of me.
ah, you give up now then?
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On January 03 2015 06:01 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 06:00 Palmar wrote:On January 03 2015 05:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if he came to have a scumread on your townread why would voting for them be a bad idea? if it was successful it's still a bad idea because it makes your reads seem less perfect? fuck off with that No because generally (and I say generally, maybe I'm completely wrong on everything this game? who knows?) if I throw out like 6-10 townreads there's usually only going to be 1 mafia in there. Again, maybe this is the game where I get everything wrong, but let's assume it's not. Just from a statistical point of view it's better to lynch outside the players I've townread, because if most of the townreads are correct (even if 1 or maybe 2 are wrong) there's going to be more mafia in the remaining players. But I cba arguing this. batsnacks was a terrible lynch. Now all my reads are fucked up and I will be awful for the rest of the game because I can't tell dumb from scum. Here's to hoping mafia just shoots me to rid town of me. relax man we can turn this shit around
Not if he is voting me every day.
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Palmar is the one who told the scum to sheep JATs vote so he could come in here and try to collect town cred in light of his absence from most of yesterdays discussion leading up to the lynch. If he is town, we're still in a good position with heat on his two known scumreads but instead he's mad about not getting the cred and being obeyed - that was his true goal. It's so clear in my head man
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On January 03 2015 05:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote:On January 03 2015 05:54 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote:On January 03 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Do you want to move on and lynch geript tomorrow Palmar or have you done enough of convincing us that you're awesome I'm not awesome. Really?  Then I shouldn't listen to you tomorrow I guess? You wouldn't anyway, as I'm voting you. Then you are even more terrible than I am.
Yes, I have a few strengths and a few weaknesses in mafia.
List of weaknesses:
1: I'm terrible in the mid-game, because I can't tell dumb from scum. So I repeatedly lynch people who don't agree with me.
2: I generally give one mafia a free pass for no good reason
3: I ignore mafia all the time. When I have players I've mostly ignored, those players often tend to be mafia (think superbia this game).
So yes, I know that there is a possibility you're dumb town. You're either dumb town or scum. And I just have to roll the dice. Of all the people on that shitty wagon, you're the one who should have had the sense to actually get things done properly, but you didn't.
I don't think you're dumb JAT, so by process of elimination, you must be mafia.
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Palmar lmao
Maybe it's you.
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On January 03 2015 06:02 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 06:01 KelsierSC wrote:On January 03 2015 06:00 Palmar wrote:On January 03 2015 05:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if he came to have a scumread on your townread why would voting for them be a bad idea? if it was successful it's still a bad idea because it makes your reads seem less perfect? fuck off with that No because generally (and I say generally, maybe I'm completely wrong on everything this game? who knows?) if I throw out like 6-10 townreads there's usually only going to be 1 mafia in there. Again, maybe this is the game where I get everything wrong, but let's assume it's not. Just from a statistical point of view it's better to lynch outside the players I've townread, because if most of the townreads are correct (even if 1 or maybe 2 are wrong) there's going to be more mafia in the remaining players. But I cba arguing this. batsnacks was a terrible lynch. Now all my reads are fucked up and I will be awful for the rest of the game because I can't tell dumb from scum. Here's to hoping mafia just shoots me to rid town of me. relax man we can turn this shit around Not if he is voting me every day.
He's calling you stupid, not trying to convince anyone you're scum. Does Palmar tilt this much as town when he doesn't get his way and give up? I thought he was respected
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On January 03 2015 06:00 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 05:56 KelsierSC wrote:On January 03 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote:On January 03 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Do you want to move on and lynch geript tomorrow Palmar or have you done enough of convincing us that you're awesome I'm not awesome. I'm just explaining that the people who lynched batsnacks are terrible. So reading through the lynch. I had a scum read on bats, a few others did. Then JAT was like "lets lynch bats" then random fuckwads came out the woodwork and lynched bats for bad reasons/no reasons/ every thing he said reason (eden) So if i'm JAT in that position I would be like fuck this and go back to geript. assuming JAT is good. JAT you even said something like "why are you people here now" or "this feels bad" just explain why the alarm bells didn't go off and make you switch. As you can see by the things you quote in this very posts the alarm bells DID go off. But people arriving at deadline aren't necessarily scum and I just wasn't sure if geript was the better lynch since he acted so defeated and I had a difficult time seeing him be like that as mafia.
yeh what I meant was why didnt you switch when the alarm bells went off. I'm not sure I buy your explanation
Like dam,eden and SL's reasons are all awful and they are at the deadline with bad reasons....I just think you are a better player than that and the last second awful ninja vote doesn't make you switch?
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On January 03 2015 06:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 06:00 Palmar wrote:On January 03 2015 05:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if he came to have a scumread on your townread why would voting for them be a bad idea? if it was successful it's still a bad idea because it makes your reads seem less perfect? fuck off with that No because generally (and I say generally, maybe I'm completely wrong on everything this game? who knows?) if I throw out like 6-10 townreads there's usually only going to be 1 mafia in there. Again, maybe this is the game where I get everything wrong, but let's assume it's not. Just from a statistical point of view it's better to lynch outside the players I've townread, because if most of the townreads are correct (even if 1 or maybe 2 are wrong) there's going to be more mafia in the remaining players. But I cba arguing this. batsnacks was a terrible lynch. Now all my reads are fucked up and I will be awful for the rest of the game because I can't tell dumb from scum. Here's to hoping mafia just shoots me to rid town of me. ah, you give up now then?
Never.
I'll lynch like 15 townies in a row for being bad.
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On January 03 2015 06:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Palmar is the one who told the scum to sheep JATs vote so he could come in here and try to collect town cred in light of his absence from most of yesterdays discussion leading up to the lynch. If he is town, we're still in a good position with heat on his two known scumreads but instead he's mad about not getting the cred and being obeyed - that was his true goal. It's so clear in my head man
See, another guy who is either dumb or scum.
I was absent because the deadline is 5am my time.
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On January 03 2015 06:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 06:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Palmar is the one who told the scum to sheep JATs vote so he could come in here and try to collect town cred in light of his absence from most of yesterdays discussion leading up to the lynch. If he is town, we're still in a good position with heat on his two known scumreads but instead he's mad about not getting the cred and being obeyed - that was his true goal. It's so clear in my head man See, another guy who is either dumb or scum. I was absent because the deadline is 5am my time.
That's fine, then you should be used to town being in a different place and not just sheeping you the whole time you're asleep.
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In your normal day 2/3s do you just do this and say "well im just gonna be bad from here on out and lynch all town" what a fucking sob story dude....
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actually JAT i'm reading your filter and you don't seem to be heavy on the geript being scum train so I can buy your explanation a bit more.
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Like Palmar sure bitching a lot about a lynch he wasn't interested in participating in. Like I get time constraints, but he didn't seem super interested in the lynch when he was around, so the amount of bitching is disproportionate.
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On January 03 2015 06:04 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 05:56 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote:On January 03 2015 05:54 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote:On January 03 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Do you want to move on and lynch geript tomorrow Palmar or have you done enough of convincing us that you're awesome I'm not awesome. Really? Then I shouldn't listen to you tomorrow I guess? You wouldn't anyway, as I'm voting you. Then you are even more terrible than I am. Yes, I have a few strengths and a few weaknesses in mafia. List of weaknesses: 1: I'm terrible in the mid-game, because I can't tell dumb from scum. So I repeatedly lynch people who don't agree with me. 2: I generally give one mafia a free pass for no good reason 3: I ignore mafia all the time. When I have players I've mostly ignored, those players often tend to be mafia (think superbia this game). So yes, I know that there is a possibility you're dumb town. You're either dumb town or scum. And I just have to roll the dice. Of all the people on that shitty wagon, you're the one who should have had the sense to actually get things done properly, but you didn't. I don't think you're dumb JAT, so by process of elimination, you must be mafia.
You don't have to roll the dice. You could also use your fucking brain if you are town and evaluate the rest of my play. Doesn't marv saying that I am definitely town mean anything to you? Regardless of his alignment he will only say this if he really thinks it is true.
If you are not able to play this game as town because someone lynched a guy you had a maybe very very slight town lean on then you are trashtier and I don't think you are trashtier. So you have to be mafia by POE. See how this works?
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Also another reason why DrH is dumb and shouldn't be listened to:
If I am indeed mafia, I am basically being universally townread. I have a solid tunnel going on on geript (who is then presumably town) and all I have to do is keep on trucking. Like I don't think a single person called me mafia yesterday.
So in DrH's world, I could possibly be mafia because instead of taking advantage of my already incredible amount of towncred, I'm throwing a hissy fit over a shitty lynch.
From now on I'm not going ot read DrH posts. They're worthless pile of trash.
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On January 03 2015 06:04 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 06:00 justanothertownie wrote:On January 03 2015 05:56 KelsierSC wrote:On January 03 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote:On January 03 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Do you want to move on and lynch geript tomorrow Palmar or have you done enough of convincing us that you're awesome I'm not awesome. I'm just explaining that the people who lynched batsnacks are terrible. So reading through the lynch. I had a scum read on bats, a few others did. Then JAT was like "lets lynch bats" then random fuckwads came out the woodwork and lynched bats for bad reasons/no reasons/ every thing he said reason (eden) So if i'm JAT in that position I would be like fuck this and go back to geript. assuming JAT is good. JAT you even said something like "why are you people here now" or "this feels bad" just explain why the alarm bells didn't go off and make you switch. As you can see by the things you quote in this very posts the alarm bells DID go off. But people arriving at deadline aren't necessarily scum and I just wasn't sure if geript was the better lynch since he acted so defeated and I had a difficult time seeing him be like that as mafia. yeh what I meant was why didnt you switch when the alarm bells went off. I'm not sure I buy your explanation Like dam,eden and SL's reasons are all awful and they are at the deadline with bad reasons....I just think you are a better player than that and the last second awful ninja vote doesn't make you switch?
Explain the mafia motivation behind the last second awful ninja vote.
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On January 03 2015 06:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Palmar sure bitching a lot about a lynch he wasn't interested in participating in. Like I get time constraints, but he didn't seem super interested in the lynch when he was around, so the amount of bitching is disproportionate.
He has no apparent interest in day 2 lynch either other than to punish the person who disobeyed the mighty palmar. If he isn't even sure about his geript read now there's literally nothing to suspect JAT for.
What he's saying is that anybody who would suspect someone he said he had a town read on (a light light town read which he gave little explanaton for) has to be either dumb or scum. That's crazy.
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I'm not townreading Palmar fwiw
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