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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 01:43 GMT
#1540
On January 02 2015 10:41 ritoky wrote:
saw someone asked for this:

Unofficial vote count:

ritoky (2): sicklucker, superbia
TheChyz (4): Eden1892, Vivax, batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica
geript (4): Palmar, Artanis[XP], Lazermonkey, marvellosity
Lazermonkey (1): TheChyz
sicklucker (1): ritoky
Vivax (1): Koshi

Geript is set to be lynched

thread exploded while i was cooking.

lol, no way am I voting for Chyz with this votecount
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 01:45 GMT
#1546
On January 02 2015 10:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 10:43 Alakaslam wrote:

TheChyz (5): Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica

until deadline.

Oh jeez, that's one ugly looking wagon to be on.

Where to move my vote -.-
[/blue][/b]
My thoughts exactly. I voted geript for now. Still think batsnacks would also be a good lynch though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 01:50 GMT
#1558
On January 02 2015 10:47 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 10:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:44 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:43 Alakaslam wrote:

TheChyz (5): Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica

until deadline.

Oh jeez, that's one ugly looking wagon to be on.

Where to move my vote -.-

My thoughts exactly. I voted geript for now. Still think batsnacks would also be a good lynch though.

I hate that you're not hating me this game
and that you're agreeing with me

why so agreeable?

Because you are saying what I think. If you are doing that I will agree.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 01:50 GMT
#1561
On January 02 2015 10:50 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 10:47 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:44 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:43 Alakaslam wrote:

TheChyz (5): Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Vivax, TheChyz, Batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica

until deadline.

Oh jeez, that's one ugly looking wagon to be on.

Where to move my vote -.-

My thoughts exactly. I voted geript for now. Still think batsnacks would also be a good lynch though.

I hate that you're not hating me this game
and that you're agreeing with me

why so agreeable?

Because you are saying what I think. If you are doing that I will agree.

Not to mention that I said that before you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 01:54 GMT
#1568
On January 02 2015 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: geript

Why are you voting for your townread?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 01:54 GMT
#1570
lol GB, are you doing what you did in that one scumgame right now?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 01:55 GMT
#1571
On January 02 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax: Concrete things I didn't like about Geript.
-Holding back information until questioned (read reasons on Dr.H, read reasons on Koshi)
-Laying out lines and never getting back to them (questioned me on what I thought of sl/eden/kels, never got back to me when I expanded upon it, so I pulled him back on it and it felt like he didn't have much thought behind it)
-Doesn't care about getting lynched + Show Spoiler +
On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching?

Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly.

-A large part of his filter is just.. not saying anything. I mean scroll through it, put up a notepad and fill in what you've learned.
-Throws suspicion in every which way but doesn't pursue anything. + Show Spoiler [examples] +
On January 02 2015 04:23 geript wrote:
First off, I'm really surprised that more people don't want to lynch Robik. New Years has fucked with us all I imagine in addition to the surprise start, but Town!Robik tends to play quite differently. He's aggressive; he bounces all over the place. He makes huge sweeping townreads that are the craziest shit I've ever seen. He's really passive. Nothing "turns his wheel" so to speak. Usually he'd be on something like a dog in heat by now. That's my first read.

On January 02 2015 04:48 geript wrote:
In looking at some of Lazer's past games, he's probably an ok lynch. Marv is right on that he's pretty much a background player.

On January 02 2015 04:54 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote:
I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value.

This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well.

On January 02 2015 05:32 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
don't like this list:

people i don't want to lynch for some reason:

1; Koshi
4; Artanis[XP]
6; Marvellosity
7; justanothertownie
8; IAmRobik
10; Palmar
11; Damdred
15; KelsierSC
17; DoctorHelvetica
18; Eden1892

Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up:

5; Lazermonkey
9; TheChyz

Wat r u doing

2; GlowingBear
14; Vivax
19; RebirthOfLeGenD
20; Superbia

Some PoE title:

3; Geript
12; batsnacks
13; sicklucker
16; ritoky

I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff.

I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile.

4 different scumreads within the timeframe of an hour. Doesn't really follow up on anything but Marv, of which he just nitpicks the list and talks about fear lynching.
-Excuses - Has a 6 page filter, yet talks about how he's busy. + Show Spoiler +
On January 02 2015 06:03 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:57 Palmar wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Palmar, do you still believe Geript to be the best lynch today?

Yes.

One thing that particularly stands out to me is that I'm sort of in the driver's seat on this lynch, and geript hasn't even mentioned or addressed me at all. Like all he has to do is change my mind, but for some reason he's shying away from any interaction with me.

Well, you haven't been around until recently so that's a reasonable consideration. It's weird that he hasn't really defended the main points against him or really push anyone. Just calls Lazer an "ok lynch", calls Eden a "pretty good lynch", decides Marv is scum again yet he seems to have no interest in actively not getting lynched. It's really weird because no matter his alignment he shouldn't want to get lynched.

I don't want to get lynched but I'm busy. Plus, I don't think people are going to listen to what I have to say whatsoever unless I get lynched. Granted most people will likely forget it and some people will likely just dismiss it. But just promise me to look back at my list and think about it. I'll try to be back later to explain things in more detail. But I still haven't had a shower or anything to eat or drink yet today and I have a shitton of stuff to do and I really want to play league.


That's pretty much it. I'm still going to look into the filters of Chyz and Vivax to see if they're better lynches and make up my mind.

Also have a look at batsnacks.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 01:57 GMT
#1572
On January 02 2015 10:48 GlowingBear wrote:
What I've read from geript made me have a slight townread on him, so I'm not lynching him.

On January 02 2015 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: geript

What changed in 5 minutes, hm?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 02:05 GMT
#1583
On January 02 2015 11:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 10:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax: Concrete things I didn't like about Geript.
-Holding back information until questioned (read reasons on Dr.H, read reasons on Koshi)
-Laying out lines and never getting back to them (questioned me on what I thought of sl/eden/kels, never got back to me when I expanded upon it, so I pulled him back on it and it felt like he didn't have much thought behind it)
-Doesn't care about getting lynched + Show Spoiler +
On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching?

Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly.

-A large part of his filter is just.. not saying anything. I mean scroll through it, put up a notepad and fill in what you've learned.
-Throws suspicion in every which way but doesn't pursue anything. + Show Spoiler [examples] +
On January 02 2015 04:23 geript wrote:
First off, I'm really surprised that more people don't want to lynch Robik. New Years has fucked with us all I imagine in addition to the surprise start, but Town!Robik tends to play quite differently. He's aggressive; he bounces all over the place. He makes huge sweeping townreads that are the craziest shit I've ever seen. He's really passive. Nothing "turns his wheel" so to speak. Usually he'd be on something like a dog in heat by now. That's my first read.

On January 02 2015 04:48 geript wrote:
In looking at some of Lazer's past games, he's probably an ok lynch. Marv is right on that he's pretty much a background player.

On January 02 2015 04:54 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote:
I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value.

This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well.

On January 02 2015 05:32 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
don't like this list:

people i don't want to lynch for some reason:

1; Koshi
4; Artanis[XP]
6; Marvellosity
7; justanothertownie
8; IAmRobik
10; Palmar
11; Damdred
15; KelsierSC
17; DoctorHelvetica
18; Eden1892

Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up:

5; Lazermonkey
9; TheChyz

Wat r u doing

2; GlowingBear
14; Vivax
19; RebirthOfLeGenD
20; Superbia

Some PoE title:

3; Geript
12; batsnacks
13; sicklucker
16; ritoky

I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff.

I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile.

4 different scumreads within the timeframe of an hour. Doesn't really follow up on anything but Marv, of which he just nitpicks the list and talks about fear lynching.
-Excuses - Has a 6 page filter, yet talks about how he's busy. + Show Spoiler +
On January 02 2015 06:03 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:57 Palmar wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Palmar, do you still believe Geript to be the best lynch today?

Yes.

One thing that particularly stands out to me is that I'm sort of in the driver's seat on this lynch, and geript hasn't even mentioned or addressed me at all. Like all he has to do is change my mind, but for some reason he's shying away from any interaction with me.

Well, you haven't been around until recently so that's a reasonable consideration. It's weird that he hasn't really defended the main points against him or really push anyone. Just calls Lazer an "ok lynch", calls Eden a "pretty good lynch", decides Marv is scum again yet he seems to have no interest in actively not getting lynched. It's really weird because no matter his alignment he shouldn't want to get lynched.

I don't want to get lynched but I'm busy. Plus, I don't think people are going to listen to what I have to say whatsoever unless I get lynched. Granted most people will likely forget it and some people will likely just dismiss it. But just promise me to look back at my list and think about it. I'll try to be back later to explain things in more detail. But I still haven't had a shower or anything to eat or drink yet today and I have a shitton of stuff to do and I really want to play league.


That's pretty much it. I'm still going to look into the filters of Chyz and Vivax to see if they're better lynches and make up my mind.

Also have a look at batsnacks.

But no one's even voted batsnacks yet, I'll look into him D2.
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Artanis, do me a favor and scan thru his filter from his last game...should make it v apparent

I take it you're referring to your enfant terrible? Will do.

Thats not an excuse. What difference is there between one vote on Vivax and 0 on batsnacks? There are still 3 hours until deadline and I might push for a batsnacks lynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 02:07 GMT
#1586
On January 02 2015 11:03 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 10:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:29 geript wrote:
Artanis. You make me sad.

You made me sad by either rolling mafia or playing this poorly as town

Not having the drive to post and reread 80 times like I normally do isn't playing poorly. I'm sheeping a good wagon. I've been the focus of attention for most of 2 days now at least part of which is due to the fact that vets "caught" me early and the fact that the day has stagnated due to NYE. Like, I don't feel like putting in 48 hours of work in this type of situation. Especially when a cop is probably going to red check me tomorrow. That's a really bad situation for town. You gotta look at it from my side too. Sometimes it's best to bite the bullet to let town move the fuck on.

No, it is not. If the cop is competent he will not check you so stop whining and start playing if you are town. This behaviour is unacceptable and if you get mislynched this is entirely your own fault.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 02:10 GMT
#1595
GLOWINGBEAR

Explain this:
On January 02 2015 10:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 10:48 GlowingBear wrote:
What I've read from geript made me have a slight townread on him, so I'm not lynching him.

Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: geript

What changed in 5 minutes, hm?

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 02:16 GMT
#1604
On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense

It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on.

Getting mislynched is not selfless. It is not bold. And it most certainly is not the right play in any situation. It is selfish, dumb and despicable.
If you just put in some effort to show that you are town you would not be the discussion every day.
Get your head out of your ass if you are town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 02:18 GMT
#1607
Noone, I repeat noone will give your reads anymore credit after you flip.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 02:24 GMT
#1614
On January 02 2015 11:22 batsnacks wrote:
When is eod? This seems to imply that eod is not anytime soon:

Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 10:42 Alakaslam wrote:

Happy New Year 17 hours 40 minutes late from Imperial



Is this all you have to contribute?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 02:29 GMT
#1621
On January 02 2015 11:28 Koshi wrote:
Batsnacks might be town as well. He is batsnacks insane. This is not sure. I am sleep depraved atm

Where do you get that from? batsnacks has literally done nothing besides defending chyz. Not stepped on anyones toes.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 02:41 GMT
#1637
On January 02 2015 11:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vig him and dt check whoever the hell they want

There is no vig in this game...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 02:41 GMT
#1638
On January 02 2015 11:41 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 11:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vig him and dt check whoever the hell they want


Town doesn't have a vig.

Your team on the other hand....
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 02:48 GMT
#1644
On January 02 2015 11:42 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 11:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:41 batsnacks wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vig him and dt check whoever the hell they want


Town doesn't have a vig.

Your team on the other hand....


Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:51 sicklucker wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Does anyone have any reason why we shouldn't just lynch batsnacks?


Hes already cussed at multiple new players therefor he is town.

But to be serious hes too hard to read I think he could be a mislynch.

Since when is batsnacks hard to read? Are you kidding me?


Your point?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 02:49 GMT
#1645
On January 02 2015 11:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Is the whole vivax thing because he looks bad for kinda defending geript? Or is koshi gonna systematically tunnel every1 who voted chyz today

No, it is because the reasoning Vivax gave was horrendous.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 03:38 GMT
#1667
On January 02 2015 12:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
JAT, are you still there and do you still want to lynch batsnacks? Can you give me the rundown on him?

I am sort of here but you know how late it is right now. For batsnacks you have to look at meta. If he is town he is extremely brazen. He does not give a fuck about what people think of him and his reads. He attacks and pushes people doing traps and all that shit.
As scum he just tries not to step on anyones toes and generally lacks any scumreads. A perfect example for this is FFL2 mafia.
What I see this game is the latter. He defends Chyz and does nothing else. No scumreads, no traps, no crazy behaviour.
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