Imperial Mafia - Page 102

On December 31 2014 16:33 Eden1892 wrote:

Lemme revisit this later, the appeals to me in here are setting off alarms but I can't tell if I'm being unfair/suffering from confirmation bias or if there's something there. I'll rattle off a brief idea of the problems and see if I still agree with it on a later read / if anyone else has anything to say about it. It makes me feel like I'm being buddied but again, I'm not sure I'm being fair.
- The appeal both to my perceived innocence and alleged attention to detail and diligence bother me in a site meta-environment where, broadly speaking, aggressive asshole = town and not-aggressive-asshole = mafia. I actually feel really bad calling this out because I really would like to believe Doc is town and just not running with that meta-environment (which I would love, because I think it's not a fun meta-environment), but based on my past experiences here, these kinds of appeals are more likely to come from mafia than town than chance suggests.
- Addendum to the above, my rough recollection of Ace is that he practically wrote the heuristic I mentioned above with his harsh but effective town plan, so it's (again?) incongruous to me that Doc plays a "read between the lines, bullying" game and then is nice and relatively uncritical of me in this post.
- The appeals shifted toward something about being mad about not rolling scum that I swear I've only ever heard mafia say. Maybe my past experience is broken but it just feels off.

On January 02 2015 15:26 sicklucker wrote:


I had mad cold feet didnt you or dandred tell me to not switch?

On January 02 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote:
I'm really demotivated to even play now. Probably gonna just afk through the night and see if I turn up dead or not.

If I am alive I might just park my vote on Robik out of spite and never change it for playing terribly.

On January 03 2015 01:49 Vivax wrote:
Why are you talking about this stuff. Talk reads and stop playing the town coach it's really incredibly useless.

On January 03 2015 01:50 justanothertownie wrote:

You are incredibly useless. I probably should have sheeped Koshi.

On January 03 2015 01:51 Vivax wrote:


Objectively you're just yelling for people to do stuff when what you're doing isn't achieving anything in itself.
No analysis, just bullshitting.

On January 01 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote:

I really like this post for town. You know the old tell about forgiving your attacker that mafia tend to do, because they know the person attacking them is right and they would rather defuse the threat with kindness and cordiality instead of trying to engage someone they know is right?

It's the opposite here. I feel like attacking your forgiver is a good town tell. Mafia don't turn around and get after people who are defending them, and doubly so if they're actually under some significant suspicion. Mafia do numbers-crunching and try to see how many people they can keep on their side and don't try to attack people defending them to gain town credit. It just doesn't make sense.

I feel better about Chyz for this post

On January 01 2015 05:01 Eden1892 wrote:
And Doc do you not think anything of Chyz attacking Koshi in one of his more recent posts? I feel like mafia Chyz isn't going to start casting doubt on one of his more vocal defenders itt when someone else is cranking the bulldozer up to 11 on him.

On January 01 2015 06:24 Eden1892 wrote:
If Koshi doesn't start doing something then I might have to throw out my "attack the forgiver" tell and kill Chyz instead.

Currently I'm cool with a geript or Chyz lynch. I guess I'll need to read Lazermonkey and see what the fuss was about too. I kinda miss Palmar and marv and a little bit of Arty (although he's posted a bit), their names and JAT made me interested in the first place and JAT's the only one doing anything so far.

On January 02 2015 23:13 Koshi wrote:
Oh is SL the guy who was softdefending batsnacks with the line "batsnacks is hard to read"?

On January 02 2015 23:13 Koshi wrote:
And then was smug about it when he flipped town?

Oh yeah that guy.

On January 03 2015 02:07 justanothertownie wrote:


Indeed.

On January 02 2015 14:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Sorry guys. I had already typed a geript vote in but I didn't hit send. We should probably have a closer look at the people who just came in to push this lynch really late in the day after not doing much earlier. Like Eden, damdred and SL.
Good night.

On January 03 2015 02:16 Koshi wrote:
Is there any reason why you are being hostile towards jat?

Do you think he is scum?

On January 03 2015 02:18 Vivax wrote:


Yes his noisy presence when I attempted to analyse Eden's posts in thread bothered me and now that I see evidence for him claiming to have some sort of interest into figuring Eden out but then doing exactly the opposite you can expect some more hostility from me.