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On January 03 2015 22:54 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 22:51 KelsierSC wrote:On January 03 2015 22:47 Vivax wrote:On January 03 2015 22:37 KelsierSC wrote:On January 03 2015 22:34 Vivax wrote:On January 03 2015 22:32 marvellosity wrote:
do you really believe what you're writing? What am I doing wrong? Like, if you know better don't just stand around and tell me I'm bullshitting show me what I misunderstood and lead me to a better track instead of standing on the sidelines and just throwing around snarky comments. Show me why I'm wrong on JAT, or tell me where my argument is wrong, or tell me who a better lynch is who isn't me. so I don't think what JAT did was mafia orientated. He was saying as scum bats doesn't interact with his scum reads and as town he does right. I didn't see a contradiction. I think even town will exaggerate things to get their point across, if you scum read someone you want other people in town to believe it. Yes and here I saw the discrepancy. JAT basically tried to find reasons for geript being town prior to voting for him, the reasons for him being scum are in the ancient era of his filter and he never kept harping on them. They only showed up after multiple people posted their suspicion on geript. Then he votes geript after finding reasons for actually not scumreading him. And when the geript wagon is rolling he even goes as far as exaggerating to get to another lynch. He claims it's cause he was that confident about bats but then I don't understand why he joined the geript wagon first and then started pushing bats. And also, what happened to his other two reads when he joined the geript wagon? He points out he's suspicious of LM and ritoky at some point but the followup is still that pointless conversational style that makes him look active but also makes him zero productive. See for me one of the reasons I don't scum read JAT for his vote is because I don't see him scum reading geript d1, I think he even says "I don't know about geript" or something like that. So honestly if he has a better read I can understand him changing onto bats. I think he should have been more active and changed after dam and SL jumped in with bad reasons but I don't scum read him at this point. I asked him about it, he said he had a scumread on geript when he voted for him, cause I accused him of not having one. Does that change your view?
possibly, let me read his filter again
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On January 03 2015 02:55 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 02:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Directing your townreads. I cant find anything hardly about geript except that you had a null read on him but wanted to sheep palmar anyway i guess? What am I missing I said geript was scummy multiple times I think. And yeah, I wasn't that sure about it later because he was playing so bad that I had doubts. I also said this. If you really read my filter then you wouldn't have to ask me those questions.
oh so he did scum read geript wait one sec
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I don't know honestly, I get the impression that he really didn't know what to make of geript d1 and felt nervous lynching him. He sort of scum reads him but isn't sure and changes to bats.
I mean his story adds up and that is the impression I get.
I think JAT is town but I feel like you believe your case on JAT
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I think Eden made a defence of SL using the stars align argument. I want to make a similar point here using the "too scummy to be scum" idea.
So vivax d1/n1
he scum read Eden and Koshi(slightly)
Koshi has a massive scum read on Vivax
so mafia kills Eden and Koshi. Again it just seems to good to be true.
I need more people to post before I get a feeling for this but at the moment it feels like a set up with everyone too happy to sit back and let this happen
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Vivax you won't get JAT lynched but I appreciate your scum read.
What do you think at this point of SL, Dam and Geript
who would you lynch? are any of those people town?
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This is also more evidence that SL doesn't give a fuck about finding scum he just wants to get himself cleared
On January 03 2015 14:56 sicklucker wrote:
Well kelsier how do you feel about me now after edens post that might have got him killed
On January 03 2015 15:08 sicklucker wrote:
Yep I kill a guy whos giving me a HARD HARD TOWNREAD he only listed like 5 towns. Yep thats how I play scum I kill people who say never lynch me
The argument is awful, Eden had no idea of SL's alignment so how does that help him. Again he just desperately wants to be clear and doesn't want to do anything.
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I guess it is like early morning USA, I will be back in a few hours and hopefully this picks up.
I want people to read my cases on SL and Dam,
I want people to consider the viv lynch more , Like if you consider it and still find him scum/town that is fine but people need to actually stop humping the shit out of a doughnut and get active.
I think I raised some good discussion points talk about them.
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Can someone post the goes for me plz
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I cant quote myself but I want peoples thoughts on the idea that the night kills incriminate vivax in such a perfect way that it is too scummy to be scum.
I'm glad ve remembered geript, I don't know why that lynch has suddenly disappeared
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On January 04 2015 02:16 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 02:02 Vivax wrote:
JAT now if you truly are town I want you to consider this. If my scumread on you is wrong then scum is trying to capitalize on this shitstorm right this moment and I want you to monitor that type of activity cause you will have to think back to it after my flip.
Do we have an agreement. You are thinking I am scum, remember? Of course scum will be on your wagon regardless of your alignment.
What do you mean?
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On January 04 2015 02:21 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 02:20 KelsierSC wrote:On January 04 2015 02:16 justanothertownie wrote:On January 04 2015 02:02 Vivax wrote:
JAT now if you truly are town I want you to consider this. If my scumread on you is wrong then scum is trying to capitalize on this shitstorm right this moment and I want you to monitor that type of activity cause you will have to think back to it after my flip.
Do we have an agreement. You are thinking I am scum, remember? Of course scum will be on your wagon regardless of your alignment. What do you mean? Well, if he is a mislynch scum will be on it. If he is scum they will bus the fuck out of him because he has been dead in the water since night1.
Hmm ...
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Dam I'm guessing you quoted the wrong thing
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Sorry Dan. What was your question?
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Ah ok, I hate to do this but can you tell me what the case of lazer was on you.
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I thought the robik vote was irrelevant because bats was going down anyway
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Hmm I really don't want t kill robik though. I think there are probably 4 better lynches
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On January 04 2015 02:41 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 09:14 Lazermonkey wrote:
Not finished reading so prehaps someone already picked up on this. Anyway, take a look at Damdreds filter after the lynch. I think its really wierd to the point where I think its scummy. I feel the targets he is trying to push have been wierd and get the feeling that he is posting more to seem to be contributing than actually trying to figure out scum.
First, he talks about how he needs to get some sort of meta read on Superbia because he seems to see a connection. He then makes two posts about how he is looking at various games and then comes back with the conclusion that no connection was found. Why is it that he needs to SAY this in thread? Couldn't you just look it up and comment later on if he finds something interesting.
Then he talks about how SL and Eden looked bad but also that DH looked wierd. Maybe its just me but its seems really wierd that he proceeds to post more about DH than about SL and Eden. I have a hard time to understand WHY you would choose to focus DH here instead of SL or Eden. Show nested quote +On January 03 2015 22:48 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 03 2015 22:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
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I'm interested in killing Dam. Just sayin'. And, to avoid missunderstanding, its not because of what I posted yesterday but moreso about that he is really avoiding all relevant discussion and not scum hunting. He is responding to everyone when they are attacking him or asking him questions and yes, you can see that he has scum reads. But he doesn't seem to give a shit about getting them lynched. Twice now hes lied about me or misrepresented the facts at least. I called him out for the first post and he took it back basically, the second post is misrepresenting again. I obviously gave a shit about getting a scum read lynched since you know i lynched batsnacks which is the heaet i'm getting. I haven't avoided relevant discussion i've been involved in most of everything while i've been here, its just a total misrepresentation and I know you think i'm scum but why are you letting him slide by for it when you are so gun ho on me?
I don't disagree with what he has been saying though. Indont really know why you went and analysed super. And yeh i think at the time the group of sl,Eden and drh drh was, unfortunately , the most town.
The second point I don't disagree with either. You disagree with him on the way you have been playing but i don't think he is deliberately mid interpreting you. In my mind you haven't really scum hunted at all.
I mean, do you think you have projected a strong town game and anyone who scum reads you is lying?
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On January 04 2015 02:56 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 02:50 KelsierSC wrote:On January 04 2015 02:41 Damdred wrote:On January 03 2015 09:14 Lazermonkey wrote:
Not finished reading so prehaps someone already picked up on this. Anyway, take a look at Damdreds filter after the lynch. I think its really wierd to the point where I think its scummy. I feel the targets he is trying to push have been wierd and get the feeling that he is posting more to seem to be contributing than actually trying to figure out scum.
First, he talks about how he needs to get some sort of meta read on Superbia because he seems to see a connection. He then makes two posts about how he is looking at various games and then comes back with the conclusion that no connection was found. Why is it that he needs to SAY this in thread? Couldn't you just look it up and comment later on if he finds something interesting.
Then he talks about how SL and Eden looked bad but also that DH looked wierd. Maybe its just me but its seems really wierd that he proceeds to post more about DH than about SL and Eden. I have a hard time to understand WHY you would choose to focus DH here instead of SL or Eden. On January 03 2015 22:48 Lazermonkey wrote:On January 03 2015 22:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
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I'm interested in killing Dam. Just sayin'. And, to avoid missunderstanding, its not because of what I posted yesterday but moreso about that he is really avoiding all relevant discussion and not scum hunting. He is responding to everyone when they are attacking him or asking him questions and yes, you can see that he has scum reads. But he doesn't seem to give a shit about getting them lynched. Twice now hes lied about me or misrepresented the facts at least. I called him out for the first post and he took it back basically, the second post is misrepresenting again. I obviously gave a shit about getting a scum read lynched since you know i lynched batsnacks which is the heaet i'm getting. I haven't avoided relevant discussion i've been involved in most of everything while i've been here, its just a total misrepresentation and I know you think i'm scum but why are you letting him slide by for it when you are so gun ho on me? I don't disagree with what he has been saying though. Indont really know why you went and analysed super. And yeh i think at the time the group of sl,Eden and drh drh was, unfortunately , the most town. The second point I don't disagree with either. You disagree with him on the way you have been playing but i don't think he is deliberately mid interpreting you. In my mind you haven't really scum hunted at all. I mean, do you think you have projected a strong town game and anyone who scum reads you is lying? Actually yes, i think i've played decently well especially for being on a holiday thats generally one of my busiest of the year with family and with the business. Besides that i've poked holes in people (early post of lazer) poked at dr h, did teh super thing because koshi asked for references. Dr. H is only super town to you because he has a super long filter honestly You don't disagree with it because you are biased towards me, you are just being hypocritical in the extreme.
I don't see lm misinterpreting anything in his post. I don't think I'm bring hypocritical sorry
Of course you aren't going to agree that i should be scum reading you but you did late vote on bats and so you should.comr under scrutiny. I think people should seriously consider my case on you.
Can someone post votes please
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