to be honest, I mostly sheeped you not because I actually read your case all that well. You were just so damn sure you were right and you really, really wanted this lynch, that I thought "well he's so into this that he must at least have got something".

Palmar

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December 21 2014 20:29 GMT

#1542

Damdred is town.

Now he's an blue without a cc, and we must definitely have had 3 blues against 3 mafia and 1 sk.

The point is, also his veteran claim as medic gambit isn't nearly as dumb as claiming vet as vet. The problem is he didn't think about the fact that claiming vet as vet would be incredibly dumb, so he needed a way out of that. In any case, he's probably dead tonight anyway.

Like I can see Damdred making that kind of a mistake, ie: not thinking about the repercussions if people considered his fakeclaim a serious claim and tried to lynch him based on that. Because he didn't think past the "if I claim vet mafia will never shoot me as doc" part of his claim. Which is actually not a bad idea, AS LONG as his primary claim can be defended (which it couldn't).

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

December 21 2014 20:40 GMT

#1544

come join me in retirement!

Now someone else can do shit tomorrow

Palmar

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December 21 2014 21:53 GMT

#1552

On December 22 2014 05:58 kushm4sta wrote:
also you can lynch me next if you want. however you should i know that i would surrender at this point as scum.

No. You made us wait through an entire day last time you were the one remaining mafia.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

December 22 2014 00:59 GMT

#1556

On December 22 2014 07:34 LightningStrike wrote:

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What game?

Something a year ago or something.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

December 22 2014 13:32 GMT

#1582

Oh god.

Well, better find mafia tomorrow then. If I ever get lynched this game you guys get morons of the year award.

Palmar

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December 22 2014 19:57 GMT

#1589

coag you're so bad at everything.

Palmar

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December 28 2014 10:53 GMT

#1912

On December 28 2014 05:20 sciberbia wrote:

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No. Shortly into D2 I looked through everyone's filter to find the SK. As you can see in the scum QT, my best guess at SK was VE. My second guess at that point would have been kush, and my third guess either you or Palmar. I was afraid of getting shot and not afraid of getting lynched so I made my first post on VE to probe for reactions. I then accumulated enough evidence to convince myself he was 90+% SK and that I could get him lynched so I just went for it.

I fucking told you ObsQT. He was totally going for an SK kill here.

I don't blindly sheep bad cases. I'm better than that.

Palmar

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December 28 2014 10:55 GMT

#1913

On December 28 2014 06:21 marvellosity wrote:
anyhoo, thanks for the carry scib :p my team-mates pretty good at carrying me when i'm mafia these days...

this shit is getting old.

Kill marv day 1 -> lose anyway.

Palmar

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December 28 2014 11:04 GMT

#1914

On December 28 2014 11:28 kushm4sta wrote:
ya lol to all the people who are like WTF TOWN SHAME ON YOU.
scrib was never getting lynched in a billion years.

Why not?

LS wanted to lynch him, NB considered it. You were the only guy who didn't step back and think in lylo. You had already made up your mind and disregarded every single bit of evidence (for example scib's turnaround on LS).

Also, regarding town play in general. The Coag lynch was very, very bad. Not playing in lylo was sorta bad too of course, but Coag's lynch was so much worse for me as he was never going to flip mafia and here's why:

On December 17 2014 05:52 Breshke wrote:
I have never played with him but i think coag is town for how little he cares

On December 17 2014 06:58 Breshke wrote:
##Vote: Coagulation

Could i get some reads from you?

On December 17 2014 12:34 Breshke wrote:
It was early i was fine with him not caring because there wasn't much to go off.

Then i specifically asked him to give reads and he basically refused to. If he refuses to give reads I will assume he has zero. Yes he might play like this often but right now i think it is likely he is mafia because as town he has no reason to withhold reads. Town needs to find and kill mafia to win whereas mafia can just survive.

Do you think he is town scrib?

Breshke made a 180 switch from town -> scum on Coag, and genuinely wanted to lynch him on day 1. This makes Coag town almost every case (not the fact the 180 was made, but rather how Breshke did it).

I even said this in the thread:

On December 20 2014 20:07 Palmar wrote:
It's weekend I won't do much today. Didn't mafia broski try to go after coag despite repeatedly being told coag is always shit? If I recall that correctly coag is probably town

On December 21 2014 00:56 Palmar wrote:

2) Regarding Coag, can you go double check the breshke interaction with coag. I think Breshke was really adamant about trying to lynch coag for not contributing, and if that is correctly remembered, it was almost certainly not a bus.

Not to mention, Robik hard townread Coag.

Now, I'm not going to defend Coag, he's always awful at mafia and basically a giant liability to his team. However, there are always going to be assholes and people need to learn how to play around them. It's really, really painful that we wasted a valuable mislynch because town refused to go back and read, or just believe, that two flipped townies considered Coag to be very unlikely to be scum.

It's one of my biggest annoyances in mafia. Mafia shoots player who is right -> people who are wrong stubbornly continue to be wrong.

Very well played Scib. You proved again that you are one of the better scum players on TL.

Palmar

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December 28 2014 23:28 GMT

#1937

You could have swayed me to lynch scib instead VE ^^ I said as much. But he did a much better job than you!

Palmar

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December 29 2014 09:20 GMT

#1945

On December 29 2014 12:29 kushm4sta wrote:
scrib was uncatchable, and if you disagree you are lying to yourself.

Why?

Everyone, mafia and flipped town, townread LS. You ignored that.
NB was confirmed vigilante.

Your ONLY option for mafia (if your head wasn't so far up your ass that you ignored robik, jat, me who all called LS town) was sciberbia.

Stop saying he was couldn't be caught. If your premise is that you cannot improve, you will not improve. I'm not saying it was going to be easy. NB especially had a very difficult task because she would have to decide between you and scib for the remaining scum. But from your own perspective, the game was really simple. You just (as usual) refused to play it.

You don't read, you don't post. Why do you even play mafia?