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sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 18 2014 09:42 GMT
#841
On December 18 2014 18:35 sicklucker wrote:
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On December 18 2014 17:32 Breshke wrote:
On December 18 2014 14:59 sicklucker wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:52 Breshke wrote:
I have never played with him but i think coag is town for how little he cares


Think this has been pointed out but I have a hard time he believes this?

Breske had only focused on two players coag and ls at the time I gave the read anyway. Since he gave it hes been on me too which helps him. Hes completely ignored anyone anyone good at the game so theirs that too. Me ls and coag are all trash

Its like a slight scum read I didnt feel much reason to back it up ive already said I dont read him well.


Why do you have a hard time believing it?

If you think i have been focusing too much on certain people how about asking me about my reads on others?

You have these problems with my play but you don't talk about them or ask me questions or anything. So you have an inkling that im scum yet you ignored me and have hardly tried to interact with me. You arn't even trying to work out my allighnment you just called me scum because other people were and you were hoping no one would question you on it.


Also why so defensive? Do you really need me to ask? Well I asked but why dont you just give them which is where this is obviously going? Instead you try to deflect some bs on me instead of helping me read you, scummy.


I agree Breshke's post is concerningly overdefensive.

@jat
what are you thinking about bunnies these days?
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 18 2014 09:46 GMT
#842
On December 18 2014 18:39 sicklucker wrote:
Well I might miss the vote Its in 10 hours and I like to sleep long time. Do any of my scum reads/ have a chance to get voted? I dont like the marv train.


Extremely hard to say what the main wagons will be in 10 hours time. Can't you just set an alarm for an hour before the deadline?
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 18 2014 09:52 GMT
#843
I have to say you're complacency with not being around during the lynch is not exactly comforting.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 18 2014 10:29 GMT
#844
On December 18 2014 18:42 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 18:35 sicklucker wrote:
On December 18 2014 17:32 Breshke wrote:
On December 18 2014 14:59 sicklucker wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:52 Breshke wrote:
I have never played with him but i think coag is town for how little he cares


Think this has been pointed out but I have a hard time he believes this?

Breske had only focused on two players coag and ls at the time I gave the read anyway. Since he gave it hes been on me too which helps him. Hes completely ignored anyone anyone good at the game so theirs that too. Me ls and coag are all trash

Its like a slight scum read I didnt feel much reason to back it up ive already said I dont read him well.


Why do you have a hard time believing it?

If you think i have been focusing too much on certain people how about asking me about my reads on others?

You have these problems with my play but you don't talk about them or ask me questions or anything. So you have an inkling that im scum yet you ignored me and have hardly tried to interact with me. You arn't even trying to work out my allighnment you just called me scum because other people were and you were hoping no one would question you on it.


Also why so defensive? Do you really need me to ask? Well I asked but why dont you just give them which is where this is obviously going? Instead you try to deflect some bs on me instead of helping me read you, scummy.


I agree Breshke's post is concerningly overdefensive.

@jat
what are you thinking about bunnies these days?

She always looks kinda scummy to me - it is like Palmar said. But I don't think I want to lynch her at the moment. We are lynching marv.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 18 2014 10:30 GMT
#845
On December 18 2014 18:34 sicklucker wrote:
Also you ignored the part in my post where I accuse you of only interacting with weak players and point out the pointless part of my scum read. Thus helping my point that your playing scared.


You and LS are the people i have played with the most i guess i feel more comfortable making reads on you guys. Also in one of my games when GB was coaching me he said that people are less likely to read your posts the bigger they are especially when they have had no experience with you so may not expect as much from you as others if that makes sense.

On December 18 2014 18:35 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2014 17:32 Breshke wrote:
On December 18 2014 14:59 sicklucker wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:52 Breshke wrote:
I have never played with him but i think coag is town for how little he cares


Think this has been pointed out but I have a hard time he believes this?

Breske had only focused on two players coag and ls at the time I gave the read anyway. Since he gave it hes been on me too which helps him. Hes completely ignored anyone anyone good at the game so theirs that too. Me ls and coag are all trash

Its like a slight scum read I didnt feel much reason to back it up ive already said I dont read him well.


Why do you have a hard time believing it?

If you think i have been focusing too much on certain people how about asking me about my reads on others?

You have these problems with my play but you don't talk about them or ask me questions or anything. So you have an inkling that im scum yet you ignored me and have hardly tried to interact with me. You arn't even trying to work out my allighnment you just called me scum because other people were and you were hoping no one would question you on it.


Also why so defensive? Do you really need me to ask? Well I asked but why dont you just give them which is where this is obviously going? Instead you try to deflect some bs on me instead of helping me read you, scummy.


No because you scum read me because I have been focusing on people when i had been being scum read partly because of my coag shit so of course im going to talk about it because if i think its scummy and others don't there is obviously something wrong.

I think palmar is town. I can clearly understand the progression of his reads especially concerning LS. I think it is towny that he was the main pusher on LS but has come to the realization that LS is most likely town. Also the fact that he said he thought i was town at a point when basically noone else had helps a lot aswell. This is because i really dont see mafia motivation behind this because when i flip i don't think palmar gets much credit at all for calling me town if anything it would bring him further into the spotlight.

I also think Ninjabunnies is town. Has had insights like the JAT thing and stuff about the marv wagon that shoes she is really reading the thread and trying to get reads. Also the fact that she scumread me but still admitted she liked some of my posts. As mafia i don't think she would do this because it would be more beneficial to shit over everything i do and just ignore anything that might seem towny

Scrib I have as tentative town. Isn't afraid to post when the thread dies which to me is towny because it gets conversation going again. Also reads me as scum but activly tries to discuss this read and pick apart some of my posts for example
On December 17 2014 15:22 sciberbia wrote:
@bunnies
What specifically did you like about the first two posts?

I agree regarding inconsistencies. What do you make of the following:

(1) Implies useless =/= scummy and therefore we should not lynch kush
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On December 17 2014 12:14 Breshke wrote:
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On December 17 2014 12:12 sicklucker wrote:
Well if anyone should get semi lynched on the basis that there useless its kush. Ive played with him four times and hes been utterly useless in everygame for whatever team hes on. People keep saying that he sometimes trys as town but I just dont see it.


Do you think kush is useless town or useless mafia? Do you think you should be lynching people that are scummy or that are useless?



(2) says kush is useful as town but not as mafia, which would seem to imply that we should lynch kush
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On December 17 2014 12:18 Breshke wrote:
I know the games you were refering to with kush SL and there is actually a difference in his play in the town game he actually gave some content whereas the scum gave he gave 0. To say he was useless both games would be wrong.



Also (1) seems to be inconsistent with his original stance on Coag where Coag's uselessness implies scumminess

My only problem with scrib is he seems to misunderstand stuff im saying a lot but this could be more of a problem on my end than his. Also the fact that he is townreading you SL is weird because i don't get that.

On you SL i think you are very different this game. For better or for worse you normally have a large thread presence and are always speaking your mind. The fact that i had to prompt you for reasons behind your reads multiple times is extremely suprising to me because normally you always say exactly what you are thinking the second you think it. I don't know if you are purposely trying to tone yourself back from previous games or if you actually didn't have reasons behind your reads and were just making a scum list you thought would be acceptable. One thing working for you is your dislike of the marv wagon. It is a conclusion i expect a town SL to come to because i also dislike it and i think thats because we have both never played with marv before(not sure if this is true for you aswell?)

I can say shit about more people but im about to have dinner so if there is anyone you specifically want feel free but these are my stronger ones other than coag and LS
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 18 2014 10:30 GMT
#846
On December 18 2014 12:22 sciberbia wrote:
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On December 18 2014 11:43 Breshke wrote:
Can someone explain this wagon on marv a bit more i dont get it. He has done nothing this game but basically call me scum but there is others who have also done nothing. Is it expected that a town marv wouldn't play like this but a town kush would? Like i honestly don't know I have never played with marv before.


free townreads man what's not to get. Honestly though, if neither kush nor marv post again before the end of the day, I'd probably vote kush over marv

Mind explaining this post though? I think it's kinda awful.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 18 2014 10:31 GMT
#847
meh, marv seems to have cashed in. I was looking forward to actually making a case for him being mafia because I think I have a pretty solid one.

But there really is no need, the only reasonable option where he's town anymore is if this is some sort of a meta play where he is intentionally being shit and getting lynched, just to show that him being shit doesn't mean he's mafia for future games. I just think marv is too competitive to actually do anything like that.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 18 2014 10:36 GMT
#848
Like just so it's clear, I'm not voting marv because I think he's afk. I think he's mafia. Because he's basically gone awol I'm not gonna write the full case, or fact check the stuff I currently think. This is the gist of the case

  • He lacks all excitement
  • He doesn't follow up on the things he says, he's not invested in them at all
  • Activity doesn't help. marv repeatedly defends himself as town simply by pointing to raw filter length

Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2014 10:39 GMT
#849
I should've known a gay joining a metal game was a terrible idea.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 18 2014 10:42 GMT
#850
On December 18 2014 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
I should've known a gay joining a metal game was a terrible idea.

I take this as a scumclaim.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 18 2014 10:43 GMT
#851
On December 18 2014 19:36 Palmar wrote:
Like just so it's clear, I'm not voting marv because I think he's afk. I think he's mafia. Because he's basically gone awol I'm not gonna write the full case, or fact check the stuff I currently think. This is the gist of the case

  • He lacks all excitement
  • He doesn't follow up on the things he says, he's not invested in them at all
  • Activity doesn't help. marv repeatedly defends himself as town simply by pointing to raw filter length


Agreed. I also never had the feeling that he was trying to figure anyhting out.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2014 10:46 GMT
#852
this is why i don't get why people ever scumread me when i am town. so ludicrous.

i really wanted to try posting a lot less as town this game because playing scum is totally unsustainable atm. alas.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 18 2014 10:47 GMT
#853
On December 18 2014 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
this is why i don't get why people ever scumread me when i am town. so ludicrous.

i really wanted to try posting a lot less as town this game because playing scum is totally unsustainable atm. alas.

I am sorry you rolled the wrong alignment bro.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2014 10:47 GMT
#854
me too bbygrl
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 18 2014 10:49 GMT
#855
So this is legit you are claiming scum?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2014 10:51 GMT
#856
On December 18 2014 19:49 Breshke wrote:
So this is legit you are claiming scum?

nuh uh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 18 2014 11:49 GMT
#857
This is nice. I already said I won't be here for the deadline today but it turns out I don't need to be anyways. We are lynching marv and anyone who tries to derail this wagon gets lynched day2.
Discussion today should focus on who we should lynch day2 too. There is nothing to discuss about this lynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
December 18 2014 11:52 GMT
#858
I also think this is still worth discussing so anyone feel free to comment.
On December 17 2014 08:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 08:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 08:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 17 2014 08:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 08:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 17 2014 06:03 Palmar wrote:
On December 17 2014 06:01 marvellosity wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:44 Palmar wrote:
Also marv is kinda scummy for lurking instead of posting.

hey now, I often work out after I've finished with work, bitch.

##Vote: coagulation

Remember?

The fact you went right to "bitch" there is kinda mafia.

But it's ok for now.

Like, it kinda feels like the kind of read Palmar makes as town, but it's on MARV, someone who A) is extraordinarily hard to read by default

Huh?

I find marv hard to read. The assumption is that Palmar is mafia and marv is town, and that Palmar is trying to curb his influence by tossing scum on him.

I realized the townMarv part of the equation was missing, but that's where my head is at...I'm reading marv town and Palmar as ???.

Ok, I don't think he is that hard to read but you may disagree. BUT if you think so then why the hell are you townreading him? Because I think he is not that hard to read and I certainly don't have a townread on him by now. I also don't think that scum Palmar thinks he can curb town marvs influence.

^
Someone investigate this further - seems fishy to me. I am going to bed.

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 18 2014 11:55 GMT
#859
On December 18 2014 20:49 justanothertownie wrote:
This is nice. I already said I won't be here for the deadline today but it turns out I don't need to be anyways. We are lynching marv and anyone who tries to derail this wagon gets lynched day2.
Discussion today should focus on who we should lynch day2 too. There is nothing to discuss about this lynch.

Tbh I was just gonna kick back, maybe play some vidya, watch tv or something. I cba thinking about the future.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 18 2014 11:56 GMT
#860
I might lynch VE for lulz. Like literally just to lynch VE.

No idea if he's mafia, I don't really think so, although his presence has been super underwhelming.
Computer says mafia
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