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+ Show Spoiler +On December 17 2014 13:58 Damdred wrote:
This next part is a lie, I say that I hate people hard defending LS based on meta, his meta was brought up by himself (which i really dislike) and bresh talked about it. I think LS has a scum tell that i'd rather not mention until later, but why lie about what I actually said. No where did I even talk about Palmars case you are making things up honestly.
@Damdred
My mistake. I was asking you specifically about Palmar's post and my post in a draft of my previous post, but must have ended up deleting it.
Still though, Palmar made some points which were not related to meta. I made some points which were not related to meta. Did you not find any of those points convincing either? Or even worth commenting on in relation to Lightning's alignment?
I agree with VE that Damdred looks a bit better for his response.
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On December 17 2014 14:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
@Damdred:
Scib said it a lot more eloquently than I would have. Your catch-up post reads as obligatory and thrown together, not based on your honest reads but based on what you think you should be commenting on. Given that you found it important to let us know that you were catching up, I was expecting a lot more meat on your catch-up post.
##Vote: Damdred
Your explanation of your VE read is decent though, keep talking. Talk that much about one of your mafia reads.
Don't really care if my post feels that way I threw my thoughts out their and got some responses on them. I found it important to take time out of my work day to enter the thread even if it was in a bad way and then when i had time posted what i could. Pressure vote really doesn't phase me that much i'm not really worried about dying today as I am town and I won't be killed tonight so have time to find mafia.
I will induldge you though and talk more about scummers (and thanks for asking since you know everyone else just wants to focus on my town reads? or things I haven't said).
SL is not really interested in pressuring people at all in the game or trying to find scum, he is more interested in trying to find out what people think about him
On December 17 2014 06:27 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:On December 17 2014 06:05 Palmar wrote:On December 17 2014 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:On December 17 2014 06:02 IAmRobik wrote:Palmar, was she being honest whens he said she didn't like her role and you think she did that as mafia? + Show Spoiler +I typed he and then went back and changed all of them to she, because I refuse to believe that a mom takes a son of age 20 to get a haircut My mom wont let go of me I'm sorry for that and Palmer I really hate my role but I am town and I will do anything to win this game except let myself get lynched for dumb reasons. Well, you're now lynch target #1. Your time to shine bro, find a new #1. I headbanging right now and currently I waiting for sicklucker's first action today to determine his alignment this game. what im i bra?
Basically refuses to give reads at one point
On December 17 2014 11:52 sicklucker wrote:
Like my meta doesint tell me Ls is town yet still. I should read him better then most, I have a few reads that im waiting on too early.
Then comes out of no where just two posts later to give one liners
On December 17 2014 12:02 sicklucker wrote:
sciberbia town, palmer town, ls, town
Its really early but not liking the other early posting vets like robik. They seem like sharks circling the newer players who have like 2 posts.
and discredits robik in the process while not pointing to any other guilty party when he was only pressuring him earlier. He still does not scum hunt and only talks about Kush and hes null on bresh. His filter is pretty useless at this point (its early game granted) he has made no attempt to push the thread at all, give any thought on whats going on and somehow gave town reads over nothing and escaped pressure on it and lied.
He is pretty scummy to me
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On December 17 2014 14:15 sciberbia wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 17 2014 13:58 Damdred wrote:
This next part is a lie, I say that I hate people hard defending LS based on meta, his meta was brought up by himself (which i really dislike) and bresh talked about it. I think LS has a scum tell that i'd rather not mention until later, but why lie about what I actually said. No where did I even talk about Palmars case you are making things up honestly.
@Damdred My mistake. I was asking you specifically about Palmar's post and my post in a draft of my previous post, but must have ended up deleting it. Still though, Palmar made some points which were not related to meta. I made some points which were not related to meta. Did you not find any of those points convincing either? Or even worth commenting on in relation to Lightning's alignment?
I agree with VE that Damdred looks a bit better for his response.
Point three would be the most convincing thing that Palmar said, self meta is inherently scummy behavior to me. But LS is prone to do this as has been shown before to do it. The whole push is a bit MEH to me and doesn't make him mafia, honestly i'm a bit hard headed towards LS as I think I understand how to read them.
Your post isn't bad i actually liked your post I just don't like town cases on people generally.
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On December 17 2014 14:18 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 11:52 sicklucker wrote:
Like my meta doesint tell me Ls is town yet still. I should read him better then most, I have a few reads that im waiting on too early. Then comes out of no where just two posts later to give one liners Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 12:02 sicklucker wrote:
sciberbia town, palmer town, ls, town
Its really early but not liking the other early posting vets like robik. They seem like sharks circling the newer players who have like 2 posts.
@damdred
Well you missed the quote in the middle where he explains why he switches his mind on LS and presumably why he townreads me.
On December 17 2014 11:58 sicklucker wrote:
Altho I do like sciberbia post ya all right ill town read him now. I was hesitant because of how he made this agenda to read me from my first post and expecting me to do some over the top shit to meta read me. He liked my reasoning why I wont always do that and it was probably just a coincidence so im cool with him. If ls is hesitant to vote anyone thats how you know hes mafia.
So his story kinda checks out right? He was nullish on LS, read my post on why I think LS is town and liked it, so as a result he has townreads on both myself and LS.
The really concerning thing about sicklucker, to use your words, is that he is not "pushing the thread" or "pressuring people", which I assume is an established part of his town meta, right?
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On December 17 2014 14:37 sciberbia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 14:18 Damdred wrote:On December 17 2014 11:52 sicklucker wrote:
Like my meta doesint tell me Ls is town yet still. I should read him better then most, I have a few reads that im waiting on too early. Then comes out of no where just two posts later to give one liners On December 17 2014 12:02 sicklucker wrote:
sciberbia town, palmer town, ls, town
Its really early but not liking the other early posting vets like robik. They seem like sharks circling the newer players who have like 2 posts. @damdred Well you missed the quote in the middle where he explains why he switches his mind on LS and presumably why he townreads me. Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 11:58 sicklucker wrote:
Altho I do like sciberbia post ya all right ill town read him now. I was hesitant because of how he made this agenda to read me from my first post and expecting me to do some over the top shit to meta read me. He liked my reasoning why I wont always do that and it was probably just a coincidence so im cool with him. If ls is hesitant to vote anyone thats how you know hes mafia. So his story kinda checks out right? He was nullish on LS, read my post on why I think LS is town and liked it, so as a result he has townreads on both myself and LS. The really concerning thing about sicklucker, to use your words, is that he is not "pushing the thread" or "pressuring people", which I assume is an established part of his town meta, right?
Yea, maybe still his other town reads really come out of no where. Generally SL will post whatever the hell he wants as town any idea or analysis to talk and he just isn't here "pushing the thread". And in my experience town SL finds scummy things be they wrong or right and talks them into the ground.
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I meant to put a bit more sarcasm on that first sentence, two of the reads were really easy reads in my mind.
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I'm disappointed that no one responded to any of my posts, besides Palmer saying everything I do every game is mafia. Lol that made me laugh.
Also SL, you never responded. What have you done this game that has made you townie? So far I'm finding nothing.
As for my kush read, I call kush mafia atleast once every game we play. Plus his, I'm on page 9 post was super scummy.
And where has he been since? Prob on page ten now.
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On December 17 2014 09:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Scum
Breshke- Though, there is one post that I really like that might actually move him to null for me
@bunnies
What was the post from Breshke that you really liked?
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+ Show Spoiler [iknowimnotinthisgamebutitsfunny] +On December 17 2014 12:49 sicklucker wrote:
Coag sounds like another kush. I also am another kush well I don't need to Kush but that is another story but I also am another "Kush" ... Back to my game and other sites cya sorry sorry
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On December 17 2014 15:01 sciberbia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 09:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Scum
Breshke- Though, there is one post that I really like that might actually move him to null for me
@bunnies What was the post from Breshke that you really liked?
It was a combination of these two posts
On December 17 2014 06:36 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:On December 17 2014 06:30 Breshke wrote:On December 17 2014 06:28 justanothertownie wrote:On December 17 2014 06:26 Breshke wrote:On December 17 2014 06:12 IAmRobik wrote:On December 17 2014 06:12 IAmRobik wrote:
Also don't like the fact that Breshke just asks 1,000 questions without contributing anything. Also, his posts are very non-commital. "i don't like..." vs "LS is mafia because...." Because LS as either alignment plays very scared and seems to always be on the defensive and not giving reads. I'll be very surprised if scum LS fakeclaims VT that early though so i actually think he is town.
Also its like 7:30 am here I shouldn't even be awake. The bolded is at best stupid. Why First of all calling it fakeclaiming VT is a little weird for me. Theoretically every player in this game should be claiming VT. I also don't get "that early". Why do you think he wouldn't claim VT as mafia? At what point in time do you think he does? I said if scum ls fakeclaims VT did you read the entire sentence? In the theoretical world of LS being scum him claiming VT would indeed be a fakeclaim. I don't think he claims VT this early because it shuts down a lot of his options for the rest of the game in terms of role claiming. I think as mafia he claims VT D1 when votes are piling against him and closer to EoD. He had 0 votes on him and it has been what under 3 hours since the game started. as mafia i think he would try talk his way out first.
On December 17 2014 07:15 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 07:00 IAmRobik wrote:On December 17 2014 06:58 marvellosity wrote:On December 17 2014 06:57 LightningStrike wrote:On December 17 2014 06:54 IAmRobik wrote:
WTF are you doing. Stop defending him Breshke knows my meta and he making some good points so I got to say he is Town with me. ever thought that a mafia breshke would also know your meta and with perfect information would be able to make those points really easily? ^^ Ever think that Breshke's points had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with LS's meta and were just really blankety statements about what mafia would or wouldn't do? This is true i don't pretend to know a lot about anyones meta really. I have played 2 games with LS that is ahrdly enough for meta. Yeah i think he plays scared and timid but my main reason for him to be town right now is the way he claimed VT. JAT was right when he said anyone would claim VT but look at the way he claimed it. He had been pressured about his role a couple posts earlier and didn't claim it but then just randomly he says it without people even noticing. If he was scum i think he makes it more obvious so people actually realize what he is saying because he wants people to see what he is saying. Why arn't more people voting coag. Your first problem with me robik was that iw asn't contributing anything why are you still happy to give coag a pass.
What I didn't like about him, which put him in my scum pile was this:
On December 17 2014 05:52 Breshke wrote:
I have never played with him but i think coag is town for how little he cares
He goes from seeing Coag as townie for his not caring, but when there is pressure on LS for his roleclaim, he tries to put more scum on Coag.
On December 17 2014 06:58 Breshke wrote:
##Vote: Coagulation
Could i get some reads from you?
And in one of the above posts where he's like, Why does Coag get a town pass?
And this post
On December 17 2014 07:21 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 07:17 justanothertownie wrote:On December 17 2014 07:15 Breshke wrote:On December 17 2014 07:00 IAmRobik wrote:On December 17 2014 06:58 marvellosity wrote:On December 17 2014 06:57 LightningStrike wrote:On December 17 2014 06:54 IAmRobik wrote:
WTF are you doing. Stop defending him Breshke knows my meta and he making some good points so I got to say he is Town with me. ever thought that a mafia breshke would also know your meta and with perfect information would be able to make those points really easily? ^^ Ever think that Breshke's points had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with LS's meta and were just really blankety statements about what mafia would or wouldn't do? This is true i don't pretend to know a lot about anyones meta really. I have played 2 games with LS that is ahrdly enough for meta. Yeah i think he plays scared and timid but my main reason for him to be town right now is the way he claimed VT. JAT was right when he said anyone would claim VT but look at the way he claimed it. He had been pressured about his role a couple posts earlier and didn't claim it but then just randomly he says it without people even noticing. If he was scum i think he makes it more obvious so people actually realize what he is saying because he wants people to see what he is saying. Why arn't more people voting coag. Your first problem with me robik was that iw asn't contributing anything why are you still happy to give coag a pass. No scummer in this universe believes that claiming VT will relieve pressure. Why is coag scum? Is this missing a comma because it reads like you are agreeing with me? A large majority of his posts a songs. He is being townread by robik who is one of the people leading the thread at the moment. What he is doing, while in theme, is spamming up the thread without actually contributing anything. Without contributing anything he has nothing to make himself look bad later. As town he would actually be posting words to help us find mafia.
Why does it matter that he is being town read by Robik? Unless Breshke views Robik as mafia and is trying to make a connection.
There's just a bunch of inconsistencies with his posts about Coag.
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On December 17 2014 15:03 Alakaslam wrote:+ Show Spoiler [iknowimnotinthisgamebutitsfunny] +On December 17 2014 12:49 sicklucker wrote:
Coag sounds like another kush. I also am another kush well I don't need to Kush but that is another story but I also am another "Kush" ... Back to my game and other sites cya sorry sorry
Get ouuuut Slam!
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And EBWOP: I was trying to get at, he views Coag as townie for not caring, but then views him as scum for not caring....
Uhhh... Make up your mind bro.
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And because I think my case on him is actually pretty solid. Ima do this...
##vote: Breshke
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@bunnies
What specifically did you like about the first two posts?
I agree regarding inconsistencies. What do you make of the following:
(1) Implies useless =/= scummy and therefore we should not lynch kush
+ Show Spoiler +On December 17 2014 12:14 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 12:12 sicklucker wrote:
Well if anyone should get semi lynched on the basis that there useless its kush. Ive played with him four times and hes been utterly useless in everygame for whatever team hes on. People keep saying that he sometimes trys as town but I just dont see it. Do you think kush is useless town or useless mafia? Do you think you should be lynching people that are scummy or that are useless?
(2) says kush is useful as town but not as mafia, which would seem to imply that we should lynch kush
+ Show Spoiler +On December 17 2014 12:18 Breshke wrote:
I know the games you were refering to with kush SL and there is actually a difference in his play in the town game he actually gave some content whereas the scum gave he gave 0. To say he was useless both games would be wrong.
Also (1) seems to be inconsistent with his original stance on Coag where Coag's uselessness implies scumminess
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On December 17 2014 15:22 sciberbia wrote:@bunnies What specifically did you like about the first two posts? I agree regarding inconsistencies. What do you make of the following: (1) Implies useless =/= scummy and therefore we should not lynch kush + Show Spoiler +On December 17 2014 12:14 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 12:12 sicklucker wrote:
Well if anyone should get semi lynched on the basis that there useless its kush. Ive played with him four times and hes been utterly useless in everygame for whatever team hes on. People keep saying that he sometimes trys as town but I just dont see it. Do you think kush is useless town or useless mafia? Do you think you should be lynching people that are scummy or that are useless? (2) says kush is useful as town but not as mafia, which would seem to imply that we should lynch kush + Show Spoiler +On December 17 2014 12:18 Breshke wrote:
I know the games you were refering to with kush SL and there is actually a difference in his play in the town game he actually gave some content whereas the scum gave he gave 0. To say he was useless both games would be wrong. Also (1) seems to be inconsistent with his original stance on Coag where Coag's uselessness implies scumminess
I like his defense of LS. Because that's pretty much exactly what I was thinking as I was reading LS posts.
As for the other two posts, I'm not sure what I think. I don't really remember much from Kush's games I've played with him. But I do know that he does contribute sometimes as mafia, so I feel that kush not actually contributing depends on what he isn't contributing, not the fact that he isn't contributing. If that makes sense?
As for breshke's read, maybe he's played more games with Kush than I have? Idk.
But if he's saying that kush is useless and should be lynched, wouldn't that imply Coag should be lynched too?
But at first he's all for calling Coag town.
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On December 17 2014 15:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:
As for breshke's read, maybe he's played more games with Kush than I have? Idk.
But if he's saying that kush is useless and should be lynched, wouldn't that imply Coag should be lynched too?
But at first he's all for calling Coag town.
To me it looks like he's saying that kush should not be lynched even though kush has been useless and kush is generally only useless as scum, which doesn't make any sense. Maybe I'm misreading. I'd be interested to hear other opinions on this.
On December 17 2014 15:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:
As for the other two posts, I'm not sure what I think. I don't really remember much from Kush's games I've played with him. But I do know that he does contribute sometimes as mafia, so I feel that kush not actually contributing depends on what he isn't contributing, not the fact that he isn't contributing. If that makes sense?
So you think the mere fact that kush hasn't contributed is null? Do you find the actual content of his two posts scummy?
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On December 17 2014 15:39 sciberbia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 15:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:
As for breshke's read, maybe he's played more games with Kush than I have? Idk.
But if he's saying that kush is useless and should be lynched, wouldn't that imply Coag should be lynched too?
But at first he's all for calling Coag town.
To me it looks like he's saying that kush should not be lynched even though kush has been useless and kush is generally only useless as scum, which doesn't make any sense. Maybe I'm misreading. I'd be interested to hear other opinions on this. Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 15:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:
As for the other two posts, I'm not sure what I think. I don't really remember much from Kush's games I've played with him. But I do know that he does contribute sometimes as mafia, so I feel that kush not actually contributing depends on what he isn't contributing, not the fact that he isn't contributing. If that makes sense?
So you think the mere fact that kush hasn't contributed is null? Do you find the actual content of his two posts scummy?
My scum read on kush was such a troll read, tbh.
I find it funny that pregame he said he was gonna spend more time on this game, and then has only contributed 2 posts, both which have absolutely no content.
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I'm off to bed. Hopefully we will have more content tomorrow!
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Vote count
Marvellosity (1): IAmRobik, Coagulation
IAmRobik (0): Coagulation
Palmar (0): Coagulation
LightningStrike(1): Palmar
Breshke (2): IAmRobik, 27NinjaBunnies
Coagulation (1): Breshke
Justanothertownie (0): 27NinjaBunnies
Kushm4sta (2): LightningStrike, Sicklucker
Not Voting
everyone else
Currently Kushm4sta is set to be lynched!
until deadline
Remember to place your votes IN THE VOTING THREAD
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On December 17 2014 15:22 sciberbia wrote:@bunnies What specifically did you like about the first two posts? I agree regarding inconsistencies. What do you make of the following: (1) Implies useless =/= scummy and therefore we should not lynch kush + Show Spoiler +On December 17 2014 12:14 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2014 12:12 sicklucker wrote:
Well if anyone should get semi lynched on the basis that there useless its kush. Ive played with him four times and hes been utterly useless in everygame for whatever team hes on. People keep saying that he sometimes trys as town but I just dont see it. Do you think kush is useless town or useless mafia? Do you think you should be lynching people that are scummy or that are useless? (2) says kush is useful as town but not as mafia, which would seem to imply that we should lynch kush + Show Spoiler +On December 17 2014 12:18 Breshke wrote:
I know the games you were refering to with kush SL and there is actually a difference in his play in the town game he actually gave some content whereas the scum gave he gave 0. To say he was useless both games would be wrong. Also (1) seems to be inconsistent with his original stance on Coag where Coag's uselessness implies scumminess
You misunderstood my post about kush. I was saying that the game in which he was scum he was useless and the game in which he was town he was less useless. I'm not saying kush is always like this i don't pretend to know but i thought LS was referring to two games in which he said kush was useless in both and i was disagreeing saying there was a difference in his game play. I never said or meant to infer i town read him because i don't he is lean scum for me at the moment but that can very easily change before EoD
Let me try explain this for you bunnies and anyone else.
On December 17 2014 05:52 Breshke wrote:
I have never played with him but i think coag is town for how little he cares
This is my first post about coag. This was early in the game and at that point i liked what coag was doing. He seemed relaxed and wasn't snapping at people for little things he was just around. I
Someone then clarified that coag plays like this as either alignment so this moved this read to null. I then prompted coag for reads to which he just replied with songs repetitively. This to me was a way not to give reads which i think has no town motivation to it. Therefore i think he is scum. Do people expect him to stop playing like this? If so what do you actually plan on doing with him how long is he just going to not actually play the game.
The difference between kush and coag is that kush for all i know hasnt actually been around in the thread to give reads. Yes he has been useless so far but he hasn't been "in your face im going to obviously choose to be useless" useless.
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