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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 17 2014 03:58 GMT
#461
Yo I'm never EVER lynching Scib this game. Just sayin.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
December 17 2014 04:00 GMT
#462
On December 17 2014 12:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yo I'm never EVER lynching Scib this game. Just sayin.

Welcome to page 1
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 17 2014 04:01 GMT
#463
On December 17 2014 12:49 sicklucker wrote:
Coag sounds like another kush.

You, sir, also have acquired a day-pass from me. Unlike scib's though yours expires after today, so if you don't want to be lynched tomorrow then you should use your time wisely.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 17 2014 04:01 GMT
#464
On December 17 2014 12:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yo I'm never EVER lynching Scib this game. Just sayin.

<3

What do you think of Breshke and SL?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 17 2014 04:03 GMT
#465
On December 17 2014 12:47 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 12:34 Breshke wrote:
It was early i was fine with him not caring because there wasn't much to go off.

Then i specifically asked him to give reads and he basically refused to. If he refuses to give reads I will assume he has zero. Yes he might play like this often but right now i think it is likely he is mafia because as town he has no reason to withhold reads. Town needs to find and kill mafia to win whereas mafia can just survive.

Do you think he is town scrib?

I'm slightly leaning town on him only because he was the first to mention headbanging. Of course he could have read it from the OP but Coag does not strike me as the kind of guy to thoroughly read OP's.

I think it is foolish to try to determine Coag's alignment from his lack of reads. Palmar said Coag does not care about winning the game as either alignment. It is safe to assume Palmar is not lying about this.

If Coag does not care about winning the game as either alignment, why would not having reads make him mafia? Normal scumtells only apply to players that are trying to win the game. It's nigh on impossible to read players who aren't playing to win the game, which is Palmar and JAT suggested Coag would be a good vigi shot. He's almost impossible to read and useless if he is town anyway.

What puzzles me is your assumption that a town coag would be actively trying to catch mafia, in the face of players who have played with him many times before telling you otherwise. You said yourself you've never played with him before.


I actually dropped trying to push a coag lynch until you brought it up again for reasons similar to your last paragraph. Yes I havn't played with him before and there is so many others telling me he plays like this as either alignment that some of them have to be town. Obviously noone agrees with me right now so i will pursue other things for now.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
December 17 2014 04:07 GMT
#466
On December 17 2014 08:35 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 08:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 08:26 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Lemme just put this here

##Vote:Justanothertownie


No, elaborate. I deserve to laugh.


I'm only on page 12, so I don't know what you've said since, but how do you go from this:

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 05:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:33 IAmRobik wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:31 IAmRobik wrote:
Does that mean you're already TRing me?
Do you actually TR scib?.....cause i do

Directed at me?

Obviously. I don't care what lightening thinks at all

Charming. No, I don't townread you.


To this?

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:34 Coagulation wrote:
##vote IAmRobik
cause he posts too fucking much.

This guy is voting the wrong person...


Regardless of whether JAT is town or maf, this is a super townie observation from 27nb

In like less than 1 page?

And you never really explain any other reads. Just curious is all.

sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 17 2014 04:10 GMT
#467
robik you might want to underline that or something
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 17 2014 04:11 GMT
#468
@scib: SL has done a couple of things that make me lean town on him but the point you raised about Breshke is pretty good. His response is weird imo.

@Robik: what do you think about Damdred?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 17 2014 04:12 GMT
#469
On December 17 2014 13:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 08:35 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On December 17 2014 08:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 08:26 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Lemme just put this here

##Vote:Justanothertownie


No, elaborate. I deserve to laugh.


I'm only on page 12, so I don't know what you've said since, but how do you go from this:

On December 17 2014 05:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:33 IAmRobik wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:31 IAmRobik wrote:
Does that mean you're already TRing me?
Do you actually TR scib?.....cause i do

Directed at me?

Obviously. I don't care what lightening thinks at all

Charming. No, I don't townread you.


To this?

On December 17 2014 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:34 Coagulation wrote:
##vote IAmRobik
cause he posts too fucking much.

This guy is voting the wrong person...


In like less than 1 page?

And you never really explain any other reads. Just curious is all.

Regardless of whether JAT is town or maf, this is a super townie observation from 27nb

^ because I agree with it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
December 17 2014 04:13 GMT
#470
On December 17 2014 09:42 Palmar wrote:
Everything NB says in every game ever sounds like mafia btw. How on earth does she pretend to have a read on Kush atm.

Are you on crack, he posted once up to this point. This is precisely his mafia meta.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
December 17 2014 04:15 GMT
#471
On December 17 2014 13:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
@scib: SL has done a couple of things that make me lean town on him but the point you raised about Breshke is pretty good. His response is weird imo.

@Robik: what do you think about Damdred?

No idea. Still 3 pages behind. Not sure if he posted after "totes catching up guize". My top 3 at this point are breshe sick and kush with a side of marv cause win-win
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 17 2014 04:15 GMT
#472
On December 17 2014 13:13 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 09:42 Palmar wrote:
Everything NB says in every game ever sounds like mafia btw. How on earth does she pretend to have a read on Kush atm.

Are you on crack, he posted once up to this point. This is precisely his mafia meta.

Or his "too-high-don't-fucking-care" meta which is statistically WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more likely...
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 17 2014 04:17 GMT
#473
On December 17 2014 13:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 13:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
@scib: SL has done a couple of things that make me lean town on him but the point you raised about Breshke is pretty good. His response is weird imo.

@Robik: what do you think about Damdred?

No idea. Still 3 pages behind. Not sure if he posted after "totes catching up guize". My top 3 at this point are breshe sick and kush with a side of marv cause win-win

He did and that's kinda why I asked. I've formed an opinion of him based on it and I'd like urs whenever you get caught up.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
December 17 2014 04:22 GMT
#474
On December 17 2014 12:02 sicklucker wrote:
sciberbia town, palmer town, ls, town

Its really early but not liking the other early posting vets like robik. They seem like sharks circling the newer players who have like 2 posts.

Who are the other vets you are referring to? You're a fucking liar
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
December 17 2014 04:23 GMT
#475
On December 17 2014 13:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 13:15 IAmRobik wrote:
On December 17 2014 13:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
@scib: SL has done a couple of things that make me lean town on him but the point you raised about Breshke is pretty good. His response is weird imo.

@Robik: what do you think about Damdred?

No idea. Still 3 pages behind. Not sure if he posted after "totes catching up guize". My top 3 at this point are breshe sick and kush with a side of marv cause win-win

He did and that's kinda why I asked. I've formed an opinion of him based on it and I'd like urs whenever you get caught up.

I saw his catch up post with town reads. It's meh. Specifically his read on you which seems to come out of the blue. No reason to TR you at that point imo
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 17 2014 04:29 GMT
#476
I disagree I think ve is a solid read at this point, notbeyomd reproach but still he's there
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 17 2014 04:40 GMT
#477
@VE
I find Damdred a bit suspicious because he has avoided substantiating reads.

+ Show Spoiler [read on VE] +

On December 17 2014 11:48 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 11:45 sciberbia wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [damdred] +

On December 17 2014 11:33 Damdred wrote:
I actually have a few good town reads right now my top town is a surprise.

Town Leans:
Palmar is my top town, he shows what seems genuine interest. He pressures people is involved in almost every topic has follow up on what he says. Today Palmar is that top town.

VE is most likely town I think, I probably wouldn't listen to people wanting to lynch him today unless he did some really out there.

Robik I wouldn't lynch today at this point I have a pretty strong town feeling from him.

Would lynch today:

Kush: Where did kush go? He said he was reading but never did anything since, not saying that kush can't be lazy as town but he generally has some thoughts.

SL: I think the gameplay is decently different and leaves something to be desired from his normal game play.

I'm not sure about Bresh yet, and even though JAT is in the game I can not really remember much of what he has done so that worries me. And sciberbia making a town case and so many hard defending ls has me worried.



@damdred
Can you explain what you've seen from VE that makes you think he is town? His only reads so far seem to be slight town on marv and mafia on Palmar which you seem to strongly disagree with.

Also, can you explain what you mean in the last sentence of that quote where something is worrying you?



I don't have to agree with all of someones reads to think that they are town overall or towny at the moment. VEis putting in effort which granted he can do as mafia but I can see where hes coming from and where hes going with what hes saying. Even though we come to different conclusions I can at least understand what hes doing.



Kinda wishy/washy and unsubstantiated for a supposedly strong town read. Says you are putting in effort [granted you can do that as mafia]. And he "understands what you're doing". Just very vague.

Like, by this point I have several specific things I could point to to justify my top couple town reads.

+ Show Spoiler [read on LS] +

On December 17 2014 12:01 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 11:57 sciberbia wrote:
On December 17 2014 11:48 Damdred wrote:
LS has a ton of people hard defending him based on meta right out of the gate, and that concerns me honestly.

Concerns you because you think LS is scum or you think the people defending him are scum? or both?

For the record, I can only recall myself and Bereshke defending him. And I guess marv said the case was "icky"


I am not sold either way. Someone shouldn't be judged obviously based solely on meta reasons. For example hen he was scum in student mafia it looked really really close to his town game and it was only a couple things that gave him away. So meta wise he is easy to copy.



He seems to dismiss both Palmar's case and my post as inconclusive because they are based on meta reasons. But... they weren't at all based on meta reasons. In fact, neither Palmar nor I have even played with LS before.

+ Show Spoiler [Palmar] +

On December 17 2014 05:59 Palmar wrote:
Also, votes on LS people, bro is 84% mafia.

Evidence 1

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry my late entrance my mom told me that she was taking me to get a hair cut but we went to a couple stores and had lunch T_T
I think the first post is just silly I would of expected that from sicklucker for meta reasons but not scib.
Okay let's try to win this game plain and simple Anyone want to discuss with me?


Inherent guilt. He's like the 4th person to post in the thread and apologizes for it.

Evidence 2

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 05:39 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:37 sciberbia wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry my late entrance my mom told me that she was taking me to get a hair cut but we went to a couple stores and had lunch T_T
I think the first post is just silly I would of expected that from sicklucker for meta reasons but not scib.
Okay let's try to win this game plain and simple Anyone want to discuss with me?

You seem to be implying that the silliness of my first post is scummy? If so, please explain why it is scummy. Or are you simply noting that it is silly?

I wasn't trying to say it was scummy I just stating it was just silly that's all :O


If it wasn't scummy then what the hell is he trying to say? What does silly mean? What has it got to do with the game at all, and why bring it up as expected or not expected behavior if it isn't alignment indicative.

Evidence 3

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 05:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:
Currently LightningStrike is the scummiest person in the thread.

I am not going to read Robik. If he's mafia, I'm blaming it on everyone else.

Agreed!

Check my meta from Campus Mafia and Student IV here and tell me how am I acting
Campus: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
Student IV: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
Tell me how am I acting already for Day 1 atm.


Highly aware of own meta, and uses it instantly to defend himself against what are basically shit accusations.

Evidence 4

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 05:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:46 Palmar wrote:
Now I want to lynch lightningstrike for suggesting I read more than the absolute bare minimum required.

You'll be hitting yourself when my role is revealed


When confronted with what is basically a troll accusation, he immediately goes for the defense again. Further, he does not entertain the possibility that me or anyone else pushing him might be mafia, just straight up "look, I'm not mafia".

Soooo.... we good?

Kill LS?


+ Show Spoiler [me] +

On December 17 2014 11:22 sciberbia wrote:
I think LightningStrike is likely town for two reasons. Actually three but I'm omitting one.
  1. First, after being put under pressure by Palmar and JAT, he maintained his high activity level, and continued to say some dubious/odd things. See spoiler for a few examples
    + Show Spoiler [LS] +

    On December 17 2014 05:51 LightningStrike wrote:
    Show nested quote +
    On December 17 2014 05:49 IAmRobik wrote:
    On December 17 2014 05:47 LightningStrike wrote:
    On December 17 2014 05:46 Palmar wrote:
    Now I want to lynch lightningstrike for suggesting I read more than the absolute bare minimum required.

    You'll be hitting yourself when my role is revealed

    please don't type posts like this. It implies that Plammmar is town and there's no evidence to that.

    If LS is mafia, plammmmar 100% cleared

    I not scum that is all to it. By the way where is sicklucker when I want to start reading him a bit...

    On December 17 2014 05:54 LightningStrike wrote:
    Show nested quote +
    On December 17 2014 05:53 Palmar wrote:
    On December 17 2014 05:52 Breshke wrote:
    I have never played with him but i think coag is town for how little he cares

    That does not say anything about Coag's alignment. He basically doesn't care at all about any game he is in.

    On the other hand, he should be a prime vigilante shot, because of exactly this.

    That would be a wasted shot unless we can prove he is scum.

    On December 17 2014 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
    Show nested quote +
    On December 17 2014 06:05 Palmar wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:02 IAmRobik wrote:
    Palmar, was she being honest whens he said she didn't like her role and you think she did that as mafia?

    + Show Spoiler +
    I typed he and then went back and changed all of them to she, because I refuse to believe that a mom takes a son of age 20 to get a haircut

    My mom wont let go of me I'm sorry for that and Palmer I really hate my role but I am town and I will do anything to win this game except let myself get lynched for dumb reasons.

    Well, you're now lynch target #1.

    Your time to shine bro, find a new #1.

    I headbanging right now and currently I waiting for sicklucker's first action today to determine his alignment this game.

    On December 17 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:
    Show nested quote +
    On December 17 2014 06:10 Breshke wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:05 Palmar wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:02 IAmRobik wrote:
    Palmar, was she being honest whens he said she didn't like her role and you think she did that as mafia?

    + Show Spoiler +
    I typed he and then went back and changed all of them to she, because I refuse to believe that a mom takes a son of age 20 to get a haircut

    My mom wont let go of me I'm sorry for that and Palmer I really hate my role but I am town and I will do anything to win this game except let myself get lynched for dumb reasons.

    Well, you're now lynch target #1.

    Your time to shine bro, find a new #1.

    I headbanging right now and currently I waiting for sicklucker's first action today to determine his alignment this game.


    I don't like this its like you saaw Robik cleared coag for reffering to headbanging and you are trying to jump on some town cred

    What about people who have already posted do you think any of them are scummy? I think SL is someone easy to scum read and think this is a cop out.

    No I really am a headbanger this game that why I dislike my role -.-
    Possibly Palmer but as I said I will need to dive into his past games to figure out his meta.

    On December 17 2014 06:26 LightningStrike wrote:
    Show nested quote +
    On December 17 2014 06:26 IAmRobik wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:25 Palmar wrote:
    It just sounds like he accidentally forgot how to English.

    "unlike LS (who hates her role) i got my most despised role"

    WTF!??!!?

    Fine if you going to call me a girl just call me Arya then.....



    Since by all accounts he is a bit of a timid player, I would expect a scum LS to get a bit scared, clam up a bit, and try to avoid being talked about if at all possible. But on the contrary, he seems completely unafraid of being noticed and that is not something I would expect from a timid scum player.

  2. Second, I agree with Robik that LS's handling of the 1-10 question is unlikely to come from a scum LS. Put yourself in scum!LS's shoes. You were just asked how happy you are with your role. You want to sound like you are town so you should probably say something like 10/10 because I love playing town or 1/10 because I hate playing town.

    Does it really seem likely LS would think things through to the level of: I'm going to say 1/10 but not explain it. I'll be really coy about it and leave people to wonder why I said 1/10. If somebody really pushes me on it, I'll claim VT and say that I hate playing VT.

    Seems too devious for a timid newbie scum.

    Furthermore, Breshke does have a point about scum being unlikely to pidgeonhole themselves into a particular role claim so early in the game.

    Finally, in the pregrame of LXIX he let it be known that VT is in fact his least favorite role. This makes the townie explanation of his answer and followup very easy to understand (he is new and was just being honest).
    On December 09 2014 02:48 LightningStrike wrote:
    I can't wait for this to start! I love all the roles but the Elf....




I get the feeling he is scum and having trouble coming up with good, specific reasons to justify his stated reads. VE, were you getting the same feeling or do you disagree?

@Damdred
If you feel like VE is a solid read, can you point to something specific in his filter that you think he would not post as scum?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 17 2014 04:58 GMT
#478
On December 17 2014 13:40 sciberbia wrote:
@VE
I find Damdred a bit suspicious because he has avoided substantiating reads.

+ Show Spoiler [read on VE] +

On December 17 2014 11:48 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 11:45 sciberbia wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [damdred] +

On December 17 2014 11:33 Damdred wrote:
I actually have a few good town reads right now my top town is a surprise.

Town Leans:
Palmar is my top town, he shows what seems genuine interest. He pressures people is involved in almost every topic has follow up on what he says. Today Palmar is that top town.

VE is most likely town I think, I probably wouldn't listen to people wanting to lynch him today unless he did some really out there.

Robik I wouldn't lynch today at this point I have a pretty strong town feeling from him.

Would lynch today:

Kush: Where did kush go? He said he was reading but never did anything since, not saying that kush can't be lazy as town but he generally has some thoughts.

SL: I think the gameplay is decently different and leaves something to be desired from his normal game play.

I'm not sure about Bresh yet, and even though JAT is in the game I can not really remember much of what he has done so that worries me. And sciberbia making a town case and so many hard defending ls has me worried.



@damdred
Can you explain what you've seen from VE that makes you think he is town? His only reads so far seem to be slight town on marv and mafia on Palmar which you seem to strongly disagree with.

Also, can you explain what you mean in the last sentence of that quote where something is worrying you?



I don't have to agree with all of someones reads to think that they are town overall or towny at the moment. VEis putting in effort which granted he can do as mafia but I can see where hes coming from and where hes going with what hes saying. Even though we come to different conclusions I can at least understand what hes doing.



Kinda wishy/washy and unsubstantiated for a supposedly strong town read. Says you are putting in effort [granted you can do that as mafia]. And he "understands what you're doing". Just very vague.

Like, by this point I have several specific things I could point to to justify my top couple town reads.

+ Show Spoiler [read on LS] +

On December 17 2014 12:01 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 11:57 sciberbia wrote:
On December 17 2014 11:48 Damdred wrote:
LS has a ton of people hard defending him based on meta right out of the gate, and that concerns me honestly.

Concerns you because you think LS is scum or you think the people defending him are scum? or both?

For the record, I can only recall myself and Bereshke defending him. And I guess marv said the case was "icky"


I am not sold either way. Someone shouldn't be judged obviously based solely on meta reasons. For example hen he was scum in student mafia it looked really really close to his town game and it was only a couple things that gave him away. So meta wise he is easy to copy.



He seems to dismiss both Palmar's case and my post as inconclusive because they are based on meta reasons. But... they weren't at all based on meta reasons. In fact, neither Palmar nor I have even played with LS before.

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On December 17 2014 05:59 Palmar wrote:
Also, votes on LS people, bro is 84% mafia.

Evidence 1

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On December 17 2014 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry my late entrance my mom told me that she was taking me to get a hair cut but we went to a couple stores and had lunch T_T
I think the first post is just silly I would of expected that from sicklucker for meta reasons but not scib.
Okay let's try to win this game plain and simple Anyone want to discuss with me?


Inherent guilt. He's like the 4th person to post in the thread and apologizes for it.

Evidence 2

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On December 17 2014 05:39 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:37 sciberbia wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry my late entrance my mom told me that she was taking me to get a hair cut but we went to a couple stores and had lunch T_T
I think the first post is just silly I would of expected that from sicklucker for meta reasons but not scib.
Okay let's try to win this game plain and simple Anyone want to discuss with me?

You seem to be implying that the silliness of my first post is scummy? If so, please explain why it is scummy. Or are you simply noting that it is silly?

I wasn't trying to say it was scummy I just stating it was just silly that's all :O


If it wasn't scummy then what the hell is he trying to say? What does silly mean? What has it got to do with the game at all, and why bring it up as expected or not expected behavior if it isn't alignment indicative.

Evidence 3

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On December 17 2014 05:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:41 Palmar wrote:
Currently LightningStrike is the scummiest person in the thread.

I am not going to read Robik. If he's mafia, I'm blaming it on everyone else.

Agreed!

Check my meta from Campus Mafia and Student IV here and tell me how am I acting
Campus: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
Student IV: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike
Tell me how am I acting already for Day 1 atm.


Highly aware of own meta, and uses it instantly to defend himself against what are basically shit accusations.

Evidence 4

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On December 17 2014 05:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:46 Palmar wrote:
Now I want to lynch lightningstrike for suggesting I read more than the absolute bare minimum required.

You'll be hitting yourself when my role is revealed


When confronted with what is basically a troll accusation, he immediately goes for the defense again. Further, he does not entertain the possibility that me or anyone else pushing him might be mafia, just straight up "look, I'm not mafia".

Soooo.... we good?

Kill LS?


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On December 17 2014 11:22 sciberbia wrote:
I think LightningStrike is likely town for two reasons. Actually three but I'm omitting one.
  1. First, after being put under pressure by Palmar and JAT, he maintained his high activity level, and continued to say some dubious/odd things. See spoiler for a few examples
    + Show Spoiler [LS] +

    On December 17 2014 05:51 LightningStrike wrote:
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    On December 17 2014 05:49 IAmRobik wrote:
    On December 17 2014 05:47 LightningStrike wrote:
    On December 17 2014 05:46 Palmar wrote:
    Now I want to lynch lightningstrike for suggesting I read more than the absolute bare minimum required.

    You'll be hitting yourself when my role is revealed

    please don't type posts like this. It implies that Plammmar is town and there's no evidence to that.

    If LS is mafia, plammmmar 100% cleared

    I not scum that is all to it. By the way where is sicklucker when I want to start reading him a bit...

    On December 17 2014 05:54 LightningStrike wrote:
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    On December 17 2014 05:53 Palmar wrote:
    On December 17 2014 05:52 Breshke wrote:
    I have never played with him but i think coag is town for how little he cares

    That does not say anything about Coag's alignment. He basically doesn't care at all about any game he is in.

    On the other hand, he should be a prime vigilante shot, because of exactly this.

    That would be a wasted shot unless we can prove he is scum.

    On December 17 2014 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
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    On December 17 2014 06:05 Palmar wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:02 IAmRobik wrote:
    Palmar, was she being honest whens he said she didn't like her role and you think she did that as mafia?

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    I typed he and then went back and changed all of them to she, because I refuse to believe that a mom takes a son of age 20 to get a haircut

    My mom wont let go of me I'm sorry for that and Palmer I really hate my role but I am town and I will do anything to win this game except let myself get lynched for dumb reasons.

    Well, you're now lynch target #1.

    Your time to shine bro, find a new #1.

    I headbanging right now and currently I waiting for sicklucker's first action today to determine his alignment this game.

    On December 17 2014 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:
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    On December 17 2014 06:10 Breshke wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:08 LightningStrike wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:05 Palmar wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:05 LightningStrike wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:02 IAmRobik wrote:
    Palmar, was she being honest whens he said she didn't like her role and you think she did that as mafia?

    + Show Spoiler +
    I typed he and then went back and changed all of them to she, because I refuse to believe that a mom takes a son of age 20 to get a haircut

    My mom wont let go of me I'm sorry for that and Palmer I really hate my role but I am town and I will do anything to win this game except let myself get lynched for dumb reasons.

    Well, you're now lynch target #1.

    Your time to shine bro, find a new #1.

    I headbanging right now and currently I waiting for sicklucker's first action today to determine his alignment this game.


    I don't like this its like you saaw Robik cleared coag for reffering to headbanging and you are trying to jump on some town cred

    What about people who have already posted do you think any of them are scummy? I think SL is someone easy to scum read and think this is a cop out.

    No I really am a headbanger this game that why I dislike my role -.-
    Possibly Palmer but as I said I will need to dive into his past games to figure out his meta.

    On December 17 2014 06:26 LightningStrike wrote:
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    On December 17 2014 06:26 IAmRobik wrote:
    On December 17 2014 06:25 Palmar wrote:
    It just sounds like he accidentally forgot how to English.

    "unlike LS (who hates her role) i got my most despised role"

    WTF!??!!?

    Fine if you going to call me a girl just call me Arya then.....



    Since by all accounts he is a bit of a timid player, I would expect a scum LS to get a bit scared, clam up a bit, and try to avoid being talked about if at all possible. But on the contrary, he seems completely unafraid of being noticed and that is not something I would expect from a timid scum player.

  2. Second, I agree with Robik that LS's handling of the 1-10 question is unlikely to come from a scum LS. Put yourself in scum!LS's shoes. You were just asked how happy you are with your role. You want to sound like you are town so you should probably say something like 10/10 because I love playing town or 1/10 because I hate playing town.

    Does it really seem likely LS would think things through to the level of: I'm going to say 1/10 but not explain it. I'll be really coy about it and leave people to wonder why I said 1/10. If somebody really pushes me on it, I'll claim VT and say that I hate playing VT.

    Seems too devious for a timid newbie scum.

    Furthermore, Breshke does have a point about scum being unlikely to pidgeonhole themselves into a particular role claim so early in the game.

    Finally, in the pregrame of LXIX he let it be known that VT is in fact his least favorite role. This makes the townie explanation of his answer and followup very easy to understand (he is new and was just being honest).
    On December 09 2014 02:48 LightningStrike wrote:
    I can't wait for this to start! I love all the roles but the Elf....




I get the feeling he is scum and having trouble coming up with good, specific reasons to justify his stated reads. VE, were you getting the same feeling or do you disagree?

@Damdred
If you feel like VE is a solid read, can you point to something specific in his filter that you think he would not post as scum?


Firstly, saying that VE is a solid read at this point does not mean that I have a strong read on him. That is why he is under the Town LEAN category in my catch up post.

Ok, and the point is? You basically repeated what I said. Thats the thing though just because I have a read one way or another doesn't mean I have to turn the read into a huge town post why that person is town. Hes possibly town hes in my town pile today unless he does something or someone puts together a head turning case.

This next part is a lie, I say that I hate people hard defending LS based on meta, his meta was brought up by himself (which i really dislike) and bresh talked about it. I think LS has a scum tell that i'd rather not mention until later, but why lie about what I actually said. No where did I even talk about Palmars case you are making things up honestly.

On December 17 2014 08:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On December 17 2014 06:03 Palmar wrote:
On December 17 2014 06:01 marvellosity wrote:
On December 17 2014 05:44 Palmar wrote:
Also marv is kinda scummy for lurking instead of posting.

hey now, I often work out after I've finished with work, bitch.

##Vote: coagulation

Remember?

The fact you went right to "bitch" there is kinda mafia.

But it's ok for now.

I REEEEALLY don't like the bolded. It's like trying to throw mafia on marv for literally no reason.

Like, it kinda feels like the kind of read Palmar makes as town, but it's on MARV, someone who A) is extraordinarily hard to read by default and B) someone who is likely to have clout moving further into the game. There's a decently high possibility that it was a joke too.

Also the thing at the end "But it's okay for now" reminds me of our first game together when he seemed to follow every criticism with something like "but that doesn't bother me much" or "but that's okay" etc.

On the plus side, regardless of his alignment, that pretty much makes LS a safe vote! :D


I like this post plus the follow up explanation, his call out on me on my entrance post i felt was towny. His post since haven't read as scummy, he has covered people been invested and not tunneled. He is a solid read atm
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
December 17 2014 05:06 GMT
#479
hm actually I think this sequence of posts makes SL look kinda town. Spontaneously and consistently responds to my (in my humble opinion very persuasive) post about LS.

On December 17 2014 11:52 sicklucker wrote:
Like my meta doesint tell me Ls is town yet still. I should read him better then most, I have a few reads that im waiting on too early.

On December 17 2014 11:58 sicklucker wrote:
Altho I do like sciberbia post ya all right ill town read him now. I was hesitant because of how he made this agenda to read me from my first post and expecting me to do some over the top shit to meta read me. He liked my reasoning why I wont always do that and it was probably just a coincidence so im cool with him. If ls is hesitant to vote anyone thats how you know hes mafia.

On December 17 2014 12:02 sicklucker wrote:
sciberbia town, palmer town, ls, town

Its really early but not liking the other early posting vets like robik. They seem like sharks circling the newer players who have like 2 posts.


Also coming back into the thread with only one scumread and that being on Robik would be a pretty brazen mafia move.

What do you think Robik?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
December 17 2014 05:07 GMT
#480
@Damdred:

Scib said it a lot more eloquently than I would have. Your catch-up post reads as obligatory and thrown together, not based on your honest reads but based on what you think you should be commenting on. Given that you found it important to let us know that you were catching up, I was expecting a lot more meat on your catch-up post.

##Vote: Damdred

Your explanation of your VE read is decent though, keep talking. Talk that much about one of your mafia reads.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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