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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 13 2014 23:57 GMT
#2702
Gb has 1 read this entire game and it's on a role. Gj gg shoot that fucker. Look how hard he tried to derail the thread onto me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 13 2014 23:58 GMT
#2704
On December 14 2014 08:57 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:44 Holyflare wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:36 liancourt wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:27 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
im not role hunting rofl? Im telling you not to shoot into possible roles. ONLY SHOOT guys who cant be power roles and maybe obi since he just completely wasted his vote. Like ff holy and whoever else I said are never power roles so shoot between them.


OWS did not waste his vote. Check the vote count Sicklucker, he actually hammered KSC.


obi is super town or super bussed his team mate.

but since i think HF is scum and the fact that obi didnt want to vote HF earlier before thread sentiment was on kel i'm inlcined to think obi super bussed kel.

But lets see how HF flips.

Rit shoot HF

Vig can find someone else hopefully. Oh wait mafia might have RB so...vig shoot HF and rit find someone else to shoot.


Are you just oblivious to everything I'm writing?


stop defending yourself and shoiw me your past greatness


No I'm just going to enjoy my holiday because I've been perfectly fine this game and you haven't read anything I've written at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 00:00 GMT
#2707
On December 14 2014 08:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why claim at night, though? I mean sure vig may get you but now mafia will for sure, right?


I'm not claiming my specific role am i? I'm giving people the most information possible about what happened yesterday without giving myself away. I was also likely to be vig shot yes. Mafia shooting me doesn't matter either because that will give you game changing info.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 00:03 GMT
#2710
So look at my filter. Read how I demolished each of gb's points 1 by 1. Read how nothing happened about me all game and how people like vivax etc were lynching ff WITH me. Then read how i said i can't post anymore and gb starts yelling to lynch me based on a case made of absolute lies. That people actually said they liked without fact checking at all.

Read vuvax who based the entire game on dead people's reads and dropped that because of...? Ehat exactly? Nothing but bull shit mafia gb case. Look at the people that jumped on me for literally no reasons etc.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 00:06 GMT
#2714
On December 14 2014 09:04 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 08:56 Holyflare wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:52 liancourt wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:29 liancourt wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:18 rsoultin wrote:
On December 14 2014 08:16 liancourt wrote:
hey rit shoot hf


Dude, no. KSC knew he was being lynched. Why would he go, no, no, don't kill HF, kill FF? if HF was mafia with him? He didn't even try to derail the lynch.


anyone could have switched and caused shennanigans

but no one did...why?

i'm inlcined to think hf is mafia too. And it's really scummy that he comes right after the flip.

What was he doing not defending himself or trying to convince others to vote kel or ff to save himself.

Instead he lurked until the flip and suddenly comes in.

HF's game thus far has been really underwhelming and a HF that makes IRL excuses and being underwhelming non pushing and just overall having a bad game is really hurting town and i'm really inclined to think that it's scum HF playing like this.

He poses a big threat to town if he's scum, and right now he's been practically useless.


I've been sick and now I'm on holiday in belgium. There is no way I'd ever go down without a fight as town or mafia. Especially if the wagon was on mafia kelsier or mafia me. It's super simple that I just wasn't around.


sorry hf but you're really detrimental to town right now

town benefits from ur godlike analysis and pushing power and thread presence

but you have none of that this game and sure you have IRL stuff going on.

Even you have said in the past that mafia like to make IRL excuses for their inactiveness or untownlilike play.

I'm sorry HF but I think it's a heavy burden for town to keep you alive.


I've claimed red. It's literally why I linked the same fucking case geript made on me in russian mafia where I was a role. I'm not a detriment I'm someone you can't be bothered to read at all so you'll just be lazy and actually IGNORE my entire filter and ask to shoot me instead. Much like the majority of the game has done.


no, i'm reading you now and you're being absolutely useless this game.

and the way you came back to the thread was horrible.

what does it matter what I think?

If you want to redeem yourself why not show us you're town by scum hunting instead of replying to my useless posts


Does useless = mafia? No.
I told you to read the geript case because he said the exact same case gb said and you are saying now. Geript was mafia and I was town. Being "useless" does not make me mafia and I've hardly even been useless because I've yelled for mafia gb's lynch all day while everyone ignored it to talk about presents.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 00:08 GMT
#2718
It literally doesn't matter what you think when I'm telling you the facts.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 00:17 GMT
#2721
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 30 2014 04:11 geript wrote:
I'd give JAT confirmed town status but iirc correctly he's had huge filters as mafia before. I've started feeling worse and worse about HF. It's not just not lynching scum. Most of his town games as of late have had ridiculous activity. In my experience HF is less active as mafia. And yes, 12 pages on D1 is low activity for him. More importantly:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 08:24 Holyflare wrote:
the relief is glorious

For someone who's relieved and I presume excited to roll town again his filter including length doesn't really show it. Especially when it gets to the lynch.
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
I would lynch jat and palmar. Not honestly sure about damd tbh but wouldn't mind the pressure on him for now, wave feeels a bit unfocused but I'm not sure why i feel like that and I haven't really read him properly it just feels that way from watching him interact so kiiind of wary on that

Would lynch sentinel


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On November 29 2014 05:32 Holyflare wrote:
Absolutely nobody will follow you jat. Just like nobody will probably follow me. I'm content with both tbh.

These are important for two reasons. HF could absolutely push a lynch on JAT or anyone he wanted. As town, HF hammers what he believes to be true. He a conceited asshole who has no doubts whatsoever in his ability (it's part of the reason I enjoy playing with him). But when you look at the lynch it's far more ambivalence.

Also note:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 07:41 Holyflare wrote:
yeh it looked towny enough to move to sentinel

##unvote
##vote sentinel


Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 07:44 Holyflare wrote:
On November 29 2014 07:41 Holyflare wrote:
yeh it looked towny enough to move to sentinel

##unvote
##vote sentinel


maybe not actually his filter has more stuff than i remembered

##unvote

3 minutes to read and analyze a filter is quite fast. Seeing as how HF has seemed to be phone posting most if not all the time, that's blazing. More likely though it's just bullshit.
For Damdred beaing a great lynch in HF's own words he ends up on a meh GB.
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 07:48 Holyflare wrote:
On November 29 2014 07:47 marvellosity wrote:
GB over, say, Sn0, HF?


honestly i have no idea and the gb defending damd and damd defending gb is just too weird

Like this is really odd. The argument applies equally both ways. HF thinks these things through as town. He's an exceptionally logic based player. But look at the length of his progression.
1. Would lynch JAT, Palmer, Sent; Damdred ambivalent
2. Shit fight with JAT but is content with no one sheeping him on JAT
3. Damdred (some who has been flawless reading Damdred) is a good lynch
4. Will listen to Damdred
5. Damdred towny enough to move to sent
6. Sent towny enough in filter to switch elsewhere
7. Ends on GB

HF's previous 100% lock solid read on Damdred changes. JAT a preferred lynch come rely disappears and is never pushed. Mystical speed reading ability. GB move out of ass over suggestions (Marv/me) toward Sn0. A person (sent) who is a preferred lynch hasn't been read whatsoever but can be cleared in 3 minutes.

HF is scum. He's not caring about getting a right lynch. He only cares about a not mafia lynch.


there is mafia geripts case on town Holyflare. Notice it's based entirely on me not being me and not giving a shit about the game. I was a role then too and made plenty of excuses.

Look at what gb said all game about me in obs:
Possible scum, in order of scumminness:
HF
Obi
JAT
Superbia
Marv

Half of the game lololololol

I can't wait.

Geript case on HF is spot on, IMO.


For someone that was so unbelievably wrong on me last game. For someone who knows that everything he is writing in this game is something I'm perfectly capable of doing when town, why is he so so so sure I'm mafia? Way too much unwavering reads this game. I disproved his points multiple times and he still came back WITH THE SAME POINTS. Why is he so sure? Why does he not listen to a word anyone says about me? Why doesn't he even listen to me? Why does he only have 1 scum read?

The answer is because he is mafia. These are easy conclusions to reach for me but apparently gb pushing actual lies goes against my meta read of him being wrong. The answer is he's not being wrong he's pushing actual lies.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 00:20 GMT
#2723
On December 14 2014 09:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 09:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 14 2014 09:05 GlowingBear wrote:
I fell asleep because I was feeling sick. What happened?

THE PROPHET ARISES

KSC was scum HF claimed a role but not any specific one


Lololol
I loved your photo by the way.

You didn't debunked my case, HF, your defense was bullshit, and so is your half-assed claim.

Those points still stands.

Or you think I should say: "I'm sorry, I forgot Belgium has a magical barrier for mafia"?



TELL ME HOW MY POINTS ARE BULL SHIT. There's literally nothing you can say to counter them. LOADS OF PEOPLE POSTED THE SAME THINGS about how they didn't agree with your points after you asked them to and you didn't respond to a single one of them at all!
What the fucking bull shit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 00:22 GMT
#2724
Like literally people have become fucking awful at this game when they say things that they don't back up.

Quote my points and debunk them. I am coming at you in full force.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 00:27 GMT
#2725
On December 09 2014 09:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm liking holyflare now, i didn't like his post about how he wasn't going to post, seemed like a good excuse to lurk. But he has backed it up with actual pressure.his pressure on nb is actually strong and the explanation is good. It also feels like town hf to me.






This guy has also pretty confirmed me as town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 03:24 GMT
#2776
On December 14 2014 11:01 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 09:27 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:05 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm liking holyflare now, i didn't like his post about how he wasn't going to post, seemed like a good excuse to lurk. But he has backed it up with actual pressure.his pressure on nb is actually strong and the explanation is good. It also feels like town hf to me.






This guy has also pretty confirmed me as town

...at the beginning of day 1 -_-


I hadn't done much, he doesn't know my scum meta at all. He knows I rekt him last time as mafia. This guy 100% confirms me as town and gb knows it. I made this EXACT same read last game on why someone was town because of mafia giving reads like this and gb overlooked it only to get told off by marv and gb said:

On December 03 2014 11:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 10:05 marvellosity wrote:
On December 03 2014 10:02 Damdred wrote:
Nah I blame myself should of pushed things harder d1 and explained what I thought more I would of been ok, I got really annoyed d1

maybe, but the whole rayn thing was the only reason you got lynched d2, you couldn't have played much better

one small bit of advice, make sure you pay attention to what other ppl are saying. main example is you were scumreading superbia and jat? or hf? gave a really good reason why superbia was town based on some stuff rayn did, but you didn't appear to acknowledge it at all in your read of him.


This actually is a huge advice to me.



I refuse to believe that he has forgotten such "huge advice" in the span of this 1 game. He literally even says that his fucking read on me about froggy is WRONG and a lie!!!!,!! Like wtfh "sorry guys i was wrong about that so yehhh..." "hf still scum though!"

Now his analysis is that mafia either voted me or didn't? Puh lease. That guy isn't town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 03:30 GMT
#2779
Kelsier keeping his vote on fecal feast is indicative of ff being town, but you seem not to care.


This isn't true in any world where there are 2 leading wagons so close with like 8 votes and he throws his vote onto someone with 1 vote. Does he think the reverse wagon will happen so shortly?? Not a chance in hell.

I'm surprised you don't mention you know... The giant case and pushing that he did on ff instead though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 03:33 GMT
#2783
On December 14 2014 12:27 Trfel wrote:
Sorry, I'm probably being really thick here, but why does KelsierSC saying that Holyflare is town provide any evidence that Holyflare is town? Couldn't he just be trying to make the town opinion favor his mafia buddy?


Mafia don't like to contribute their own analysis and so the easiest way to blend in is by calling people town for the shittest reasons. If some town read doesn't make sense at all, like his town read on me, it's almost entirely because he knows I'm town and can just say it. Hence why I called him out on it because it's such a mafia thing to do.

This probably also applies to his read on batsnacks because that was a terrible read at the time and didn't change based on evidence that should have changed the read.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 03:40 GMT
#2784
The thing about gb is that I made the EXACT same read on rayns filter last game and was entirely correct about it. When someone is so sure that it's like someone's town meta but have no logical reasons it probably means they have tmi on that person. Like here.

The quote i linked if you open up the nested is that marv is telling gb that he should listen to other people's reads like that and he replied it was huge advice. Yet, when I show him the exact same type of read that he gained huge advice from last game he's straight up ignored it and still called me mafia (even though he just admitted that his froggy point was wrong which meant half his case was wrong because a lot of it was to do with froggy).
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 03:42 GMT
#2786
Yes well you're just going to have to trust my experience playing mafia over your gut telling you that's not right.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 03:48 GMT
#2790
On December 14 2014 12:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare, your bit about Kelsier calling you town meaning that you're town is awful.


It's quite literally not. It also gives me a great read on batsnacks.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 03:49 GMT
#2791
And it's more to attack gb with than defend myself because of his such wildly different responses. I don't want you to focus on me, focus on what I'm saying about him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 03:51 GMT
#2793
It's actually really frustrating this game to post actual logical content and then people completely overlook it to talk about minor things. Happened all last day with gb's case. Not one of you read my filter at all to fact check him and now you find out his case was actually based on lies that I've told you were lies all along and then you still pick on little crap like this kelsier thing over the better content.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 03:53 GMT
#2794
On December 14 2014 12:50 rsoultin wrote:
Lol, dude, seriously? You're going to take that as a batsnacks town read over all the things he's actually said and contributed to this game? Wow.

Viva and GB went eerily silent. Guess they don't care to/or can't find a counter. Or they're taking a really long time to bother to frame a response.


No? I already said I town read him at the end of my post limit yestersay? It just confirms him on a cursory read of kelsiers filter which is a gold mine.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 14 2014 04:03 GMT
#2801
On December 14 2014 12:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2014 12:51 Holyflare wrote:
It's actually really frustrating this game to post actual logical content and then people completely overlook it to talk about minor things. Happened all last day with gb's case. Not one of you read my filter at all to fact check him and now you find out his case was actually based on lies that I've told you were lies all along and then you still pick on little crap like this kelsier thing over the better content.


Beginning to annoy me now. I don't consider two people arguing against one another, both claiming each other is scum and/or defending themselves better content. If I can't make a read on you or someone else by looking at what you've done or said independently and have to choose one of you to parrot...I might as well call you both null and call it a day. Or both scum for damn well wasting my time.

Find another sheep and stop pissing me off.


I couldn't give a flying fuck if you're pissed off or not. Yes you read me town but defending myself on a case that is based on entirelt lies and twisted bull shit IS CONTENT whether you like it or not. Just because people are lazy or whatever does not mean the content is not actually there. In no way is this a slight to you it's against the 3 other people that just chimed in to say that point about me/kelsier was bad and then fucked off without commenting on the walls i just made of ACTUAL CONTENT on gb.

Like legitimate reasons he is mafia and people ignore it. It's not the first time.
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