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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 12 2014 01:19 GMT
#1681
On December 12 2014 10:16 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm impressed you're not questioning Ritoky for claiming being GIVAN PREZANT, HF.

What do you think of it?


This like I feel only someone who knows his alignment would give him one.... He was a top scum
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 12 2014 01:20 GMT
#1682
am i the only one that can read slam?

i correctly read him in previous games as town and scum and such and he is town this game too.

It's so easy to read slam. It doesn't require any finesse at all. if he's playing like me he is town. If he's actually trying to be townie and being serious he is scum.

And also he agrees with me on kel :D

## vote kelsier
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:21 GMT
#1683
On December 12 2014 10:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Holyflare

Your reads on froggynoddy and vivax, please.


I have no idea how this is relevant in the slightest when I've made it pretty clear who i think mafia are. Either way, froggy is a kindaaaa towny/i dunno read. He writes quite long posts to say not much but I dunno how to explain that I don't want to lynch him other than saying his posts look innocent enough and to the point. He also wanted people to talk to him about his templar read that he's been pushing around the deadline which was cool and I kinda regret not talking to him more, he also said something around the bunnies lynch which i forget that made it seem like he was actually thinking about the game. I wouldn't say it's particularly difficult stuff to post as mafia but it seems pretty genuine to me.


Vivax has been pushing people that I agree look scummy (- xatalos) but his reasons for doing it look like he's putting in the effort to find out inconsistencies. After a few games where we've been wrong on each other I think we've just resorted to ignoring the other and are just gonna base it on overall play. Well I am anyway. Not really bothered to elaborate further.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 12 2014 01:26 GMT
#1684
On December 12 2014 10:20 liancourt wrote:
am i the only one that can read slam?

i correctly read him in previous games as town and scum and such and he is town this game too.

It's so easy to read slam. It doesn't require any finesse at all. if he's playing like me he is town. If he's actually trying to be townie and being serious he is scum.

And also he agrees with me on kel :D

## vote kelsier


That's not how you read slam and that's a straight up lie because you've played titanic vi with me and him and he didn't try at all there. And he was scum.

##Vote: liancourt
I'm adorable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:27 GMT
#1685
On December 12 2014 10:16 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm impressed you're not questioning Ritoky for claiming being GIVAN PREZANT, HF.

What do you think of it?


I don't know why you're even asking about this specifically? If he's lying about having a present there are 2 other presents out there which will eventually lead to his demise or we force him to use the present on who we want. It seems a silly thing to lie about??

On December 12 2014 10:14 sicklucker wrote:
Like these presents are super valuable now that the death present is probably gone with dandred. Their basically are best roles left besides santa. And He just comes out and says it? Hes either being a huge donkey or hes mafia.


No you are being the donkey. How is he supposed to know what present he has before anyone has even opened it or flipped and why are you trying to make him claim the specific present?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 12 2014 01:28 GMT
#1686
and can we not talk about present mechanics it really just doesn tmatter unless someone opened the seer present and got a red check on someone.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 12 2014 01:29 GMT
#1687
Re-read Ritoky from the time I discussed his play with Damdred. Vivax mentioned earlier lack of followup with Froggy, which he quoted. Damdred earlier mentioned lack of followup as well when I asked about Ritoky. I still think he takes HF's posts out of context though I recall HF saying he didn't agree with the case on Xatalos so there was no need for him to push Xatalos from his perspective. This adds to even further suspicion on Ritoky on top of what else has been gathered. Also read Hearthstone mafia and Ritoky's point doesn't make any sense on HF - HF gameplay here is different from that game. I don't understand the read development there.

Definitely scum-like.

OWS looks even worse to me after reading his EoD comments which is inconsistent with the vote on Xatalos. Also not sure where the LoneMeow comment came from, and then LM flips town.

Tubesock: I played with Sicklucker last game. He is erratic at times, but his scum-hunting behaviour last game is similar to this game. Similar behaviour then and now. He's good in my book.

Looking through the links that LS gave me on Oats and seeing if I can get anything out of it before I have to head to bed. Based on his play in Student Mafia IV alone though, Oats isn't looking too good either, but I'm going to read for a more comprehensive look.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 12 2014 01:30 GMT
#1688
On December 12 2014 10:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 10:16 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm impressed you're not questioning Ritoky for claiming being GIVAN PREZANT, HF.

What do you think of it?


I don't know why you're even asking about this specifically? If he's lying about having a present there are 2 other presents out there which will eventually lead to his demise or we force him to use the present on who we want. It seems a silly thing to lie about??

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 10:14 sicklucker wrote:
Like these presents are super valuable now that the death present is probably gone with dandred. Their basically are best roles left besides santa. And He just comes out and says it? Hes either being a huge donkey or hes mafia.


No you are being the donkey. How is he supposed to know what present he has before anyone has even opened it or flipped and why are you trying to make him claim the specific present?


You know I'm not talking about getting a present or not. I gave him the present. I'm talking about claiming opening a present. It will make his role useless night2.

You've called him mafia with a great amount if certainty but you're not pushing something that is relevant. Now that everybody knows he has a power, it doesn't matter which power he has. He can claim so we can know his night action night 2.

This is so contradictory from you.
I'm adorable.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 12 2014 01:30 GMT
#1689
On December 12 2014 10:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 10:20 liancourt wrote:
am i the only one that can read slam?

i correctly read him in previous games as town and scum and such and he is town this game too.

It's so easy to read slam. It doesn't require any finesse at all. if he's playing like me he is town. If he's actually trying to be townie and being serious he is scum.

And also he agrees with me on kel :D

## vote kelsier


That's not how you read slam and that's a straight up lie because you've played titanic vi with me and him and he didn't try at all there. And he was scum.

##Vote: liancourt


i read him as scum in that game if you cant recall and i was right.

And u obviously cant read slam, but no matter.

what do u think of kel?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 01:31 GMT
#1690
On December 12 2014 09:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Ok I see tube sock now

Tube mah man you see not with the eyes of Chupazi to know that I am the king of the hitleric uncanny knowledge; for though I cannot see scum, indeed the town is illuminated to me as each alignment. Indeed it is slower as town but it develops like film


If you are not Alakaslam, do not bother to read this, you can not comprehend it. You are the savage down below.

On December 09 2014 08:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Better than food and alcohol is speed (not te drug)

Exceeding 200 MPH and messing with gravity, making dirt and rubber play nice and creating clouds from thin air off your wingtips via speed and phase change causing the ignorant to rail about conspiracies

Yes


It is merely happenstance this post spoke to me. I read this and immediately labelled you a Gucci Pilot. Worthless, talentless and garbage. Later you scummed me, Rsoultin or perhaps Ritoky who really cares, and LightningStrike. You told him, you ASKED him to step up, to elevate or he will never understand. You scummed him but Niced him. There is a difference. I see that. It's not nulltown, null, or iffy. There is only Nice, Naughty and Scum. Nothing else. I knew then I was the savage in the trees looking at the iron bird in the sky. I went back and filter dove you. I LOVE speed, I know it. 200 MPH??? That my friend is slow, it's rare you see a bird with "phase changes" that only go 200MPH. I know of none that can and I am Proffessional. I then saw the dirt and rubber. Ah, it is not asphalt and rubber, it is merely 200 which may seem fast.

I thought I could play your game. Dropped a Go West reference, a Lear reference, an ALPA reference. If you don't know these it tells me you are not Professional, but you are amateur but we are NICE.

GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 12 2014 01:32 GMT
#1691
On December 12 2014 10:29 Half the Sky wrote:
Re-read Ritoky from the time I discussed his play with Damdred. Vivax mentioned earlier lack of followup with Froggy, which he quoted. Damdred earlier mentioned lack of followup as well when I asked about Ritoky. I still think he takes HF's posts out of context though I recall HF saying he didn't agree with the case on Xatalos so there was no need for him to push Xatalos from his perspective. This adds to even further suspicion on Ritoky on top of what else has been gathered. Also read Hearthstone mafia and Ritoky's point doesn't make any sense on HF - HF gameplay here is different from that game. I don't understand the read development there.

Definitely scum-like.

OWS looks even worse to me after reading his EoD comments which is inconsistent with the vote on Xatalos. Also not sure where the LoneMeow comment came from, and then LM flips town.

Tubesock: I played with Sicklucker last game. He is erratic at times, but his scum-hunting behaviour last game is similar to this game. Similar behaviour then and now. He's good in my book.

Looking through the links that LS gave me on Oats and seeing if I can get anything out of it before I have to head to bed. Based on his play in Student Mafia IV alone though, Oats isn't looking too good either, but I'm going to read for a more comprehensive look.


I need you to give examples from those games you're comparing ritoky's gameplay.
Compare some posts and specify what's different between them.
I'm adorable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:35 GMT
#1692
On December 12 2014 10:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 10:27 Holyflare wrote:
On December 12 2014 10:16 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm impressed you're not questioning Ritoky for claiming being GIVAN PREZANT, HF.

What do you think of it?


I don't know why you're even asking about this specifically? If he's lying about having a present there are 2 other presents out there which will eventually lead to his demise or we force him to use the present on who we want. It seems a silly thing to lie about??

On December 12 2014 10:14 sicklucker wrote:
Like these presents are super valuable now that the death present is probably gone with dandred. Their basically are best roles left besides santa. And He just comes out and says it? Hes either being a huge donkey or hes mafia.


No you are being the donkey. How is he supposed to know what present he has before anyone has even opened it or flipped and why are you trying to make him claim the specific present?


You know I'm not talking about getting a present or not. I gave him the present. I'm talking about claiming opening a present. It will make his role useless night2.

You've called him mafia with a great amount if certainty but you're not pushing something that is relevant. Now that everybody knows he has a power, it doesn't matter which power he has. He can claim so we can know his night action night 2.

This is so contradictory from you.


I've literally only just turned up to the thread and the conversation is on presents so when was I supposed to talk about ritoky??

"hey hf what do you think of froggy and vivax! And presents! "
"omg hf not pushing ritoky!"



I've made it well known what I think of ritoky. Nothing has changed other than people doing weird things about his present. Just because I'm not pushing him now doesn't mean I'm not doing anything about him
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 12 2014 01:35 GMT
#1693
On December 12 2014 10:30 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 10:26 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 12 2014 10:20 liancourt wrote:
am i the only one that can read slam?

i correctly read him in previous games as town and scum and such and he is town this game too.

It's so easy to read slam. It doesn't require any finesse at all. if he's playing like me he is town. If he's actually trying to be townie and being serious he is scum.

And also he agrees with me on kel :D

## vote kelsier


That's not how you read slam and that's a straight up lie because you've played titanic vi with me and him and he didn't try at all there. And he was scum.

##Vote: liancourt


i read him as scum in that game if you cant recall and i was right.

And u obviously cant read slam, but no matter.

what do u think of kel?


You read him as scum and so did I. I hammered mafia in that game.
I'm not saying that you didn't read him correctly in that game. I'm saying that he didn't try to contribute, nor looked townie, so your meta excuse is a lie.

I have yet to read him better. He wasted a lot of posts on useless jokes. Why are you reading him as scum?
I'm adorable.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 12 2014 01:36 GMT
#1694
GB, you misunderstood. Ritoky used HF's play in Hearthstone Mafia as a valid comparison for scumlisting HF. The point was on HF's gameplay, not Ritoky's.

I am not using meta to scumread Ritoky. I am reading Ritoky's filter and seeing holes in his argument against HF.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 12 2014 01:37 GMT
#1695
can we stop talking about presents and talk about kel plz

and i like the angle of gb always coming to SL's aid. Smells of mafia defending town.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 12 2014 01:37 GMT
#1696
On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:


##kelsierSC

Yes


YES.


He is of the 5.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 12 2014 01:37 GMT
#1697
On December 12 2014 10:36 Half the Sky wrote:
GB, you misunderstood. Ritoky used HF's play in Hearthstone Mafia as a valid comparison for scumlisting HF. The point was on HF's gameplay, not Ritoky's.

I am not using meta to scumread Ritoky. I am reading Ritoky's filter and seeing holes in his argument against HF.


have you played with HF before when he is scum?

i was masoned with him when he was scum in HS mafia, i got to see how he works behind the scenes a bit, this is HF mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:38 GMT
#1698
Tube you make things really obvious. I don't know why you're even trying to prove yourself to slam
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 12 2014 01:39 GMT
#1699
On December 12 2014 10:37 liancourt wrote:
can we stop talking about presents and talk about kel plz

and i like the angle of gb always coming to SL's aid. Smells of mafia defending town.


I was answering a question

Lol u funny
I'm adorable.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 12 2014 01:42 GMT
#1700
dunno what i think of GB now...probably down to null from leaning town. the basis of him pushing scum on me is from a lot of factually incorrect places especially in regards to setup info.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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