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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 11 2014 23:43 GMT
#1624
Why on earth would anyone ever kill you when the entire game has you on some kind of scum list? You're either mafia or a great mislynch (probably mafia) so either way you wouldn't get killed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 00:13 GMT
#1638
On December 12 2014 09:11 Trfel wrote:
I still don't see very much reason to lynch Fecalfeast. Yes, his play hasn't been amazing yet, and I disagree with many of his reads, but I can still see where he is coming from. I would rather give him some more time before looking back at that lynch.


Did you read what lonemeow/kita/me wrote about him?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 00:15 GMT
#1639
I don't even know what your post says tube?? Can you rephrase like... Everything?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 00:28 GMT
#1644
On December 12 2014 09:18 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
On December 12 2014 09:11 Trfel wrote:
I still don't see very much reason to lynch Fecalfeast. Yes, his play hasn't been amazing yet, and I disagree with many of his reads, but I can still see where he is coming from. I would rather give him some more time before looking back at that lynch.


Did you read what lonemeow/kita/me wrote about him?

Yes, I have. I have also filter read his posts multiple times.

If you would like, I can elaborate, but unfortunately I will be really busy for a bit. In summary, his play is mostly fluff, but that doesn't incriminate someone (see Alakaslam, batsnacks, for example). And in the remaining posts, while I disagree, I see little reason to believe that those are his honest opinions after searching for scum.


What do you mean by this? That you don't believe it's ff's honest opinion?

Also if his play is mostly fluff and a lot of his play has mafiay agendas behind it as referenced mainly by lm, the bunnies point is so excellent, then just because other people play a similar way (i don't know why you actually mentioned slam and batsnacks when you have no idea what alignment they are??) doesn't mean he can't be scummy.

Interested why you actually come to this conclusion at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 00:33 GMT
#1646
On December 12 2014 09:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Holy this is Trfel's 2nd game here on TL Mafia his first was at Student Mafia and seen here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=Trfel
I believe he is town based on his play on Student Mafia it just he had a later start than we liked but still I think he is town never less.


Well I have no reference for his scum game and I'm just asking him questions on things that seem weird. Calm down :p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 00:38 GMT
#1648
Thanks :p

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 00:56 GMT
#1658
I have no idea how anyone can be that sure on the meaning of any of alakaslams posts without knowing his actual alignment. That is such a weird weird weird post.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:02 GMT
#1666
On December 12 2014 10:00 sicklucker wrote:
[B]##vote ritoky[B/] tell us the wonders of the present because based on the night actions its probably a role check and I dont get why you dont tell us.


Why do you keep trying to get this out of him?? Nobody should claim their present till it is used.

Stop
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:07 GMT
#1670
On December 12 2014 10:04 sicklucker wrote:
I just dont see any scenario where ritoky didnt use his present last night (esp after he claimed he had one for no reason) Its very suspicious to me im looking for scum.


If he used the present he can't use the power till the next night...
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:21 GMT
#1683
On December 12 2014 10:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Holyflare

Your reads on froggynoddy and vivax, please.


I have no idea how this is relevant in the slightest when I've made it pretty clear who i think mafia are. Either way, froggy is a kindaaaa towny/i dunno read. He writes quite long posts to say not much but I dunno how to explain that I don't want to lynch him other than saying his posts look innocent enough and to the point. He also wanted people to talk to him about his templar read that he's been pushing around the deadline which was cool and I kinda regret not talking to him more, he also said something around the bunnies lynch which i forget that made it seem like he was actually thinking about the game. I wouldn't say it's particularly difficult stuff to post as mafia but it seems pretty genuine to me.


Vivax has been pushing people that I agree look scummy (- xatalos) but his reasons for doing it look like he's putting in the effort to find out inconsistencies. After a few games where we've been wrong on each other I think we've just resorted to ignoring the other and are just gonna base it on overall play. Well I am anyway. Not really bothered to elaborate further.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:27 GMT
#1685
On December 12 2014 10:16 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm impressed you're not questioning Ritoky for claiming being GIVAN PREZANT, HF.

What do you think of it?


I don't know why you're even asking about this specifically? If he's lying about having a present there are 2 other presents out there which will eventually lead to his demise or we force him to use the present on who we want. It seems a silly thing to lie about??

On December 12 2014 10:14 sicklucker wrote:
Like these presents are super valuable now that the death present is probably gone with dandred. Their basically are best roles left besides santa. And He just comes out and says it? Hes either being a huge donkey or hes mafia.


No you are being the donkey. How is he supposed to know what present he has before anyone has even opened it or flipped and why are you trying to make him claim the specific present?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:35 GMT
#1692
On December 12 2014 10:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 10:27 Holyflare wrote:
On December 12 2014 10:16 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm impressed you're not questioning Ritoky for claiming being GIVAN PREZANT, HF.

What do you think of it?


I don't know why you're even asking about this specifically? If he's lying about having a present there are 2 other presents out there which will eventually lead to his demise or we force him to use the present on who we want. It seems a silly thing to lie about??

On December 12 2014 10:14 sicklucker wrote:
Like these presents are super valuable now that the death present is probably gone with dandred. Their basically are best roles left besides santa. And He just comes out and says it? Hes either being a huge donkey or hes mafia.


No you are being the donkey. How is he supposed to know what present he has before anyone has even opened it or flipped and why are you trying to make him claim the specific present?


You know I'm not talking about getting a present or not. I gave him the present. I'm talking about claiming opening a present. It will make his role useless night2.

You've called him mafia with a great amount if certainty but you're not pushing something that is relevant. Now that everybody knows he has a power, it doesn't matter which power he has. He can claim so we can know his night action night 2.

This is so contradictory from you.


I've literally only just turned up to the thread and the conversation is on presents so when was I supposed to talk about ritoky??

"hey hf what do you think of froggy and vivax! And presents! "
"omg hf not pushing ritoky!"



I've made it well known what I think of ritoky. Nothing has changed other than people doing weird things about his present. Just because I'm not pushing him now doesn't mean I'm not doing anything about him
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:38 GMT
#1698
Tube you make things really obvious. I don't know why you're even trying to prove yourself to slam
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:43 GMT
#1701
On December 12 2014 10:37 ritoky wrote:
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On December 12 2014 10:36 Half the Sky wrote:
GB, you misunderstood. Ritoky used HF's play in Hearthstone Mafia as a valid comparison for scumlisting HF. The point was on HF's gameplay, not Ritoky's.

I am not using meta to scumread Ritoky. I am reading Ritoky's filter and seeing holes in his argument against HF.


have you played with HF before when he is scum?

i was masoned with him when he was scum in HS mafia, i got to see how he works behind the scenes a bit, this is HF mafia.


Here's an exercise you MUST do to show that you're actually not full of shit.

Prove to me/everyone that what I've done "behind the scenes" is anything like I've done in this actual game. There's a whole mason chat for you to quote. PROVE that this game is exactly like hearthstone mafia and I'm such an easy read. SHOW comparisons or just continue to dwindle into obscurity and get lynched.

All you've done so far is post contradictions about my scum meta being calm yet saying how I fooled you in hearthstone even though you had the same meta read there.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:44 GMT
#1703
Slam/lian/whoever, talk to me about kelsier. Are you just scum reading him for his deadline stuff?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:46 GMT
#1704
Dat ninja
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:50 GMT
#1710
On December 12 2014 10:47 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 10:37 ritoky wrote:
have you played with HF before when he is scum?

i was masoned with him when he was scum in HS mafia, i got to see how he works behind the scenes a bit, this is HF mafia.


No I haven't, but upon reading Hearthstone, his behaviour/posting in that game is a more choppy compared to the way he's picking out things here and fleshing things out. This is why I don't understand your comparison of him. But more of an issue to me is that you also accused him of not pushing Xatalos etc when he already explained why he wasn't doing it. He said he didn't even agree with the case on Xatalos so how are you expecting him to push Xatalos?


He talked about me not pushing bunnies adequately (haha) not xata.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:58 GMT
#1716
About 1000 people have role claimed. Should be super simple for mafia to just hit all blues because of it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 01:59 GMT
#1719
On December 12 2014 10:57 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 10:50 Holyflare wrote:
He talked about me not pushing bunnies adequately (haha) not xata.


Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 12:41 ritoky wrote:
she made 3 pages worth of posts, actually, so yes she made quite a few. I believe that's over 40 posts to respond to, so your exaggerating and laughing, but actually you're just lying and implying she didn't post a lot or a lot of substance. if she is your top scum read, 3 posts to push and develop your read seems shallow at best; especially with your standards. hell you devoted the same or more posts in the same time frame to reading vivax, kels, and xat; who you didn't push on at all. and i disagree that any of what you said regarding kita's stuff is original, it is all sheep.


That is the quote I was referring to, unless you understood him differently.


Oh right yeh. The post where he criticises me of trying to read people that are posting and calls me scum for it :p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 12 2014 02:09 GMT
#1730
I can also quote a few games where I've done the same thing as town ritoky. That's a greatly disingenuous read. The first titanic paint is an example where i just leave my vote on dp the entire game. That's just off the top of my head. You also said "hf is calm as mafia" but are only just now explaining how i went "ham on my scum read obi". Yet here you're trying to paint me as classic scum hf because I DIDN'T go ham on my scum read?? Its also a bit weird to even mention post count number when I'm restricted to a maximum of 4 pages so can't even afford to play around and tunnel.
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