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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 07:15 GMT
#2155
On December 13 2014 15:47 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 15:42 rsoultin wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.


Heh, don't actually agree on that one, Viva.

FF isn't the worst lynch we could do (which is why I wouldn't cry tears over it) but based off of NKs when we're not sure who or what killed who...and also assuming that there weren't any other reasons for killing them other than their scum reads...seems like a stretch. I'm willing to entertain a proper case against FF though. Even willing to look at him more closely myself, but he does come off a lot like another kush lol ><


THE CASE IS OUT. Find it in my filter, or look at what Alakaslam quoted.

Also I want to go into more detail on what Oats said there:

He completely skipped over all of the reasoning used to only argue for FF being town cause of his mere post count, he's putting zero effort in to get a read on him in any other way. It's not like he has a way of being sure about FFs alignment yet, no evidence of an opinion on FF in his filter. He just dismisses the case without caring in the slightest whether FF is actually town or mafia.

Yes because you apparently took a decent amount of time to find everyone dead that called FF scum which is completely pointless method of determining alignment. So you think its important.
Its not.

And if thats like one of the points in the case which is scattered over like 20 pages, then thats super bad.

I really dont know if FF is town or mafia, but im trending town and the case doesnt help.

Fecalfeast for some of the stuff I found in his filter and already mentioned, plus he martyrs at various points, like during N1 and lately when he sort of expressed he doesn't care about the scumreads. But it's not the sort of righteous townie martyr when somebody is genuinely pissed off about people scumreading him or the sort, it's more like the "I don't care about the game"- martyr. Additionally he was in the focus of the night killed guys.

This is totally a gut read, regardless of what you say later.

Super weak.


No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 08:58 GMT
#2169
On December 13 2014 16:56 Trfel wrote:
Thanks rsoultin. I'll take a look. I had a pretty good idea though.

One more thing I found interesting about the Oatsmaster argument.
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.

Do I care?
no.

Trefel or Froggy is it today.
Actually do I prefer trefel?
Yes yes i do.

##unvote
##vote Trefel


Last game (Student Mafia IV), Oatsmaster attacked batsnacks early on for advocating a policy lynch on kusmh4sta. This game, in the middle of discussion, Oatsmaster ignores it and advises what is basically a policy lynch instead.

I'd definitely like to know why your views on policy lynches have changed, Oatsmaster.

Because you clearly aren't a policy lynch?
My views haven't changed, you are scum because you've shown none of the previous interest in the game.

Vivax, is your best argument, look what this dead dude said?? It doesn't even look like you seriously looked through my filter.

And kitas first point is speculation and bad.
Second point is bad too, why don't I just go on the nb lynch rather than suggesting my own lynch and making a 'weak' effort to question someone else?
Btw, froggy didn't respond to the question I asked.

I really rethinking my read on you. It really rubs me the wrong way when you use flipped townies to justify your read.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 09:33 GMT
#2170
Pressure voting works woop.
##unvote
##vote vivax
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 12:02 GMT
#2175
On December 13 2014 21:00 Tubesock wrote:
GlowingBear. You had a nice post there, but then what happened man?? I'm holding my breath for your 2nd installment. Oh, sorry, too drunk to do it.

FecalFeast's lynch doesn't fit in my current worldview. Yeah, he's done a lot of scum things but him flipping mafia while great doesn't help me find his mates. Well, to be honest I haven't gone in with the zealousness I did with my 4 disclosed (In case Sicklucker forgot they are: The_Templar, KelsierSC, Sicklucker, GlowingBear). I have a 5th but I need the right person to flip and sadly that isn't Fecal.

To me HolyFire's really only drove the NinjaBunny wagon which we all were on and his investigating Ritoky pretty hard. He's hunting at least. Ritoky to me is very town. I read him today a bit and really the only thing I didn't really like is he likes good jokes when talking in the beginning. Yeah, so I have basically nothing on him.

Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 14:35 Alakaslam wrote:

Hijole I see you now.

without google I wouldn't know a citation from a jet stream, a Lear from a Cessna.

However I do know what AOPA is


You also post quickly you think it's an irreparable post. Which to me made me think of the Key & Peele Text Confusion skit specifically. I find it hilarious and very applicable to the game of Mafia. I haven't figured out how to embed it so you'll have to google, but it will be the first return.

Is he thinking he DID make an unexplainable error or is he testing and reading me? Haha, it's funny because it's both. You asked me to not remind you about flying so I'm going to spoiler the rest.

+ Show Spoiler +
Cessna makes Citations, there are Jetstream aircraft (Jetstream 31), jet streams are often talked about on the weather channel, and a Learjet is a jet like a Cessna Citation but if you're talking small airplanes to the general public they refer to them as Cessna's. They mean the C172, or C206 Stationair, they don't know they also include the $25 million Citation X a sexy sexy and I think still the FASTEST business jet in production. Although the new Gulfstream 650 and 850 are in contention.

I've been a member of AOPA since 1993. I don't read their magazine very often generally just the turbine pilot section or an article on an old antique bird. I gifted my free subscription of Flight Training Magazine to a couple students for a bit. I only really read Aviation Week & Space anymore. Flying, Sport Pilot, Airline, and many of those other magazines tend to repeat themselves so I only skim them at best and haven't opened one in over a decade.

whos scum bro?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 12:34 GMT
#2182
On December 13 2014 21:07 Tubesock wrote:
Oats, are you making fun of me now?

I didnt see that part my bad.

Seems odd that you think both ksc and gb are scum.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 12:35 GMT
#2183
On December 13 2014 21:21 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.

Do I care?
no.

Trefel or Froggy is it today.
Actually do I prefer trefel?
Yes yes i do.

##unvote
##vote Trefel



Could you explain why you want to lynch him?

changed my mind.
But then he stopped.

Why do people do this man.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 12:55 GMT
#2187
On December 13 2014 21:43 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 21:21 Xatalos wrote:
On December 13 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.

Do I care?
no.

Trefel or Froggy is it today.
Actually do I prefer trefel?
Yes yes i do.

##unvote
##vote Trefel



Could you explain why you want to lynch him?

changed my mind.
But then he stopped.

Why do people do this man.


What does this mean?

I changed my mind because of something he was doing, basically looking interested in the game and looking intentional in his posts, but then he went away.

Why do people do this man.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 12:55 GMT
#2188
Why is your read on me so waffley?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 12:55 GMT
#2189
On December 13 2014 21:46 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 21:21 Xatalos wrote:
On December 13 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.

Do I care?
no.

Trefel or Froggy is it today.
Actually do I prefer trefel?
Yes yes i do.

##unvote
##vote Trefel



Could you explain why you want to lynch him?


Oats is making fun of me for my batshit crazy posts. His post is Foggy.

IM NOT
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 13:36 GMT
#2193
On December 13 2014 22:17 Xatalos wrote:
Oh wait. Your vote is on Vivax now. That's even dumber though since you didn't even scumread him.

i did man, come on read my shit.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 13:36 GMT
#2194
On December 13 2014 22:00 Xatalos wrote:
Dunno what you mean with that. Basically I think you look slightly better than FF, which isn't a great achievement. Shape up if you're town.

So why is your vote still on him and what specifically makes you think Froggy is scum?

I mean you say you kinda not wanna lynch me and kinda wanna lynch me.

Make up your mind, am I town or scum?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 13:38 GMT
#2196
On December 13 2014 22:09 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2014 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 21:46 Tubesock wrote:
On December 13 2014 21:21 Xatalos wrote:
On December 13 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:
On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?

Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.

Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.

Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.


This post looks so mafia to me right now.

Do I care?
no.

Trefel or Froggy is it today.
Actually do I prefer trefel?
Yes yes i do.

##unvote
##vote Trefel



Could you explain why you want to lynch him?


Oats is making fun of me for my batshit crazy posts. His post is Foggy.

IM NOT


I read you solid town since I before I went nuclear. I thought you might be trying to tease me with your trfl or Froggy post and thought it was funny. I DO however think that we need to know what both Trfl and Froggy flip, BUT I think we should flip Froggy first.

I think reading this game looking at each individual for scummy play is incorrect. I think it's more finding a strategy as there is a solid case on EVERYONE. The only actual evidence we have is after they die. So, really, town looks for motive while mafia tries to hide.

Why do you feel like trefels and froggy's alignment are connected to the others?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 16:33 GMT
#2227
Palmars roles are in fucking ridiculuous numbers
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 13 2014 16:34 GMT
#2228
I dont see how GB's stuff is super relevant now, we arent lynching sl today regardless.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 16 2014 03:45 GMT
#3561
I really dont get anyone saying that we shouldnt lynch confirmed mafia. Thats lunacy.

Other than that, holyflare and xata are both lame dumbo scum as well as Vivax. There is a reason why nobody is picking up my lynch.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 16 2014 04:58 GMT
#3565
On December 16 2014 12:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 12:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont get anyone saying that we shouldnt lynch confirmed mafia. Thats lunacy.

Other than that, holyflare and xata are both lame dumbo scum as well as Vivax. There is a reason why nobody is picking up my lynch.


I'm sorry, you've already caught up?

eh mostly.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 16 2014 05:10 GMT
#3566
On December 16 2014 13:18 Tubesock wrote:
It's really difficult to defend Ritoky. My vote will stay on Holyflare though as he's one of my strongest reads (all my conspiracy theories) and at one time there were 5 of my top scum on Ritoky. Sicklucker jumped off, but I am waiting for the rest of them to jump off too when the wagon becomes strong enough without a couple of them. HF is already saying how he goes back on forth. I don't see him staying the course on Ritoky despite being one of the first votes on him.

how the fuck does ritoky fail claiming shit not convince you?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 16 2014 06:02 GMT
#3570
On December 16 2014 14:49 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 12:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont get anyone saying that we shouldnt lynch confirmed mafia. Thats lunacy.

Other than that, holyflare and xata are both lame dumbo scum as well as Vivax. There is a reason why nobody is picking up my lynch.


This is Oats first contribution since three days, and you really think he has any desire to solve this game? He claims to have caught up but completely ignores my claim. He says I'm scum with Xata and HF when I voted HF over flipped scum D2, and kept posting my concerns on Xatalos and argued about it so much. But we're all scum together??

Like, there's a limit to the insanity a town can show, while this is a case of a scum who doesn't like playing the scum game but pretends he does play the town game. And when Oats has such a bad grasp of the game it's cause he's scum.

Vote for this guy.

Its like 2 days.

And I dont know what the heck you are doing now. Stop derailing the ritoky lynch man.
And you all dont need to be scum but its pretty fucking likely its at least 2 of you.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 16 2014 06:04 GMT
#3572
your claim means nothing vivax.

SL pls.
Pls.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
December 16 2014 15:07 GMT
#3596
Its soooo stupid, why are people giving rikoty a pass cause he sucks?
Come on guys.

Play smart.

GB case is ok, revist tmr.
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