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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 09 2014 00:56 GMT
#441
As I am about to go pick up my wife from work I will be absent for some time now, as such I will leave a horrible list post for people to destroy while I am gone.

Town:
HF
Slam
Vivax

Tentative town:
Templars
Ritoky
Kel

Null:
GB
FF
HTS

Leaning SCUM:
Froggy
Bats
27NB
SL
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 09 2014 00:56 GMT
#442
On December 09 2014 09:52 sicklucker wrote:
Im pretty tired now but im full of Joy that it is Christmas time.





Too tired to make reads/set traps SL? Where is the bounce around like the easter bunny townie lunatic we've all come to know and love? Or...you know, tolerate?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
December 09 2014 00:57 GMT
#443
On December 09 2014 09:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I didn't like entry where she said "nb I'm also town"i don't see why she knew nb was town when at that poiny she hadn't, apparently, read the thread. Then her scum list doesn't add up. She makes the same points as nb but then nb is scum

The also town thing was already discussed. Which points does she make similarly to NB?
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 09 2014 00:59 GMT
#444
On December 09 2014 09:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I didn't like entry where she said "nb I'm also town"i don't see why she knew nb was town when at that poiny she hadn't, apparently, read the thread. Then her scum list doesn't add up. She makes the same points as nb but then nb is scum


When you say "her" scum list, do you mean NB's or mine?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
December 09 2014 00:59 GMT
#445
On December 09 2014 09:56 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:51 The_Templar wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:48 ritoky wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:40 The_Templar wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:34 The_Templar wrote:
Santa, upon arriving in America, noted the return of several people to their youthful roots. Two of them, Alakaslam, and ritoky, had made themselves comfortable on a nearby bench while a few others continued to argue pointlessly over the exact wording of their previous conversations. The NSA was delighted. Alakaslam had made himself Calvin, the boy that had asked Santa to alter his Nice list to include him. Indeed, Santa had quite a file on Calvin.

Ritoky seemed to be simply reading a Calvin and Hobbes book while Alakaslam discussed his relation to the others' arguments through being Calvin during a wonderful time of year such as this. Santa wondered, who had made the snowman that was walking around the town. Who was that snowman shielding? Surely, the Snowman was a sturdy figure and could surely withstand a blast, and was made with pure intentions, with the spirit of Christmas in mind. Therefore, its owner is surely one of those that belongs to stay on the "Nice" list. They might even be in this argument!

Could Alakaslam claim such a veteran role, Santa wondered?

On December 09 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Lmao. Okay, Templar top town for the rst of the day. I don't even care he voted me.That was the best thing I have evver read.

As for being naughty on my date... well well well. We will just have to see;)

He'll be here in five minutes so I'll leave you with this:

Templar Town
Damdred Town
Slam semitownie

Those I need to look more at:
HF
Vivax
Kelsier

Iffy:
Froggy
Kita (I expected more than just hey)
Fecal

I don't really like how two people jumped to defend me. That always makes me skeptical. Don't get me wrong, thank you for that, because it's absolutely true and makes sense.

HF is making something out of nothing. Idk if it's reaction testing? Or backlash for me calling him out on his post.

tbh, I'm not counting how many posts I make. I type a lot, I ask a lot of questions. If I get near my cap, well then, atleast I know I made a difference in the beginning of the day, instead of arguing later.

Have fun everyone, and see you tomorrow!


On the sleigh ride, Santa had read this post very carefully. Ninjabunnies, along with many other people, had created her own list of who she expected to receive Christmas presents, and who would receive coal. What position was she in to determine this? Why should she do this? Santa supposed that it was a vital component of the argument taking place and that she was taking steps to ensure she was as or less likely to be placed on the naughty list compared to anyone else. Santa was not convinced, however. Why did she think these people were on the naughty list? Why had she bothered to defend the froggy one when she was going to label him Naughty for the same reason?

Santa, fortunately, had brought his printer with him (it was magical) on the sleigh, and continued to receive mounds of evidence of the events taking place as he had travelled. He was curious about Vivax, but only because of the validity of his opinions in regards to the argument taking place. Was this knowledge of the argument they were having really common knowledge, or did only some of the suspects know of the full set of facts? Were they hiding something, perhaps?

Santa also updated his list on the way to America.

Nice:

Koshi
Half the Sky
Oatsmaster
kitaman27
Damdred
rsoultin
froggynoddy
kushm4sta
sicklucker
Alakaslam
Vivax
ObiWanShinobi
The_Templar
Xatalos
LightningStrike
liancourt
batsnacks
ritoky
Fecalfeast
Holyflare
GlowingBear
LoneMeow
Trfel
Tubesock
KelsierSC
27ninjabunnies

Naughty:

27ninjabunnies


Italics: No evidence of being nice or naughty, on list because they were there before (the game of mafia) started
Underlined: Santa/[Not]SanTa must investigate further
Bold: Remains on the list for some time.
Strikethrough: Moved to the opposite list
None: New on the list

However, Santa was not ready to do detective work yet. He decided to deliver some of the toys early so that things could be straightened out between these suspects. Through this, Santa hoped that all of them could be on the Nice list, but that was unlikely to happen. Meanwhile, The_Templar had an exam the next morning and really should study.


A huge list post just to say you have a single scumread.
Fluff. Obviously trying to look contributive and effortful.

Second scum was found.

Yes, because I did exactly the same thing in literally every game I play. That clearly makes me a Naughty person.

There is plenty of information in that fluff.

Before complaining that I'm not providing alignment-indicative information, consider reading the thread more carefully.


plenty of summary information, and not a whole lot of pushing your scum reads/leaning scum reads.

this also seems like a bit too defensive of a response especially considering who is criticizing you

Why is the fact that GlowingBear is criticizing me important?
Why do I seem too defensive?
My second post (the longest one) in the Santa vein has several people that looked peculiar (kita, frog, ninjabunnies). I generally do not have a lot of reads.


1) context is everything, guy says "i haven't read the thread" and then criticizes you for posting fluff, is that really coming from a credible perspective worth giving large consideration to?
2) because the guy didn't read the thread then you posted this snark bark:

"Yes, because I did exactly the same thing in literally every game I play. That clearly makes me a Naughty person.

There is plenty of information in that fluff.

Before complaining that I'm not providing alignment-indicative information, consider reading the thread more carefully."

That's defensive as all hell.

3) If you don't have a lot of reads then why post a gigantic list on everyone in the game? Why not just post the 4 or 5 actual reads you have? seems like excessive clogging for no real reason.

1. He is important to me because he is calling me scum for fluff at the beginning of the game. This is the opposite of his normal "lynch lurkers" policy.
2. Admittedly, that is defensive.
3. That list is going to be updated.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:00 GMT
#446
On December 09 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:44 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town



So scum can't point things out that are really null? Bats pointed out 4 things and said someone looked horrible for it when other people have near the same stance. So why such a easy town pass for bats


yeh people always say that but he analysed what she was saying and pointed out flaws, no one else did that and that is good d1 town play. I also dont like hts so


If he was thinking along these lines then why did he neglect to mention anyone else that was following the same train of thought?? Why is it scummy to agree with someone but then also scum read them? (hint: its not) why is he even scum reading bunnies in the first place because from what we've said it's because she was taking weird contradictory stances on a player that looked scummy which an overwhelming amount of time makes that player being defended actually town. Not to mention we are scum reading bunnies for CHANGING her stance in the list post to accomodate what everyone had been saying and to "blend" in.

You have strange reads kelsier, not liking the lack of thought at all.

Would lynch list: bunnies, kelsier



who else had the same train of thought?

my d1 read if town as bats isn't super detailed? Wow shocker.

I'm happy adding bats to my town circle d1
Zerg for Life
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 09 2014 01:01 GMT
#447
I'm pushing 1am and I have to work tomorrow. I will have more reads for sure when I catch up on this.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 09 2014 01:01 GMT
#448
On December 09 2014 10:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:44 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town



So scum can't point things out that are really null? Bats pointed out 4 things and said someone looked horrible for it when other people have near the same stance. So why such a easy town pass for bats


yeh people always say that but he analysed what she was saying and pointed out flaws, no one else did that and that is good d1 town play. I also dont like hts so


If he was thinking along these lines then why did he neglect to mention anyone else that was following the same train of thought?? Why is it scummy to agree with someone but then also scum read them? (hint: its not) why is he even scum reading bunnies in the first place because from what we've said it's because she was taking weird contradictory stances on a player that looked scummy which an overwhelming amount of time makes that player being defended actually town. Not to mention we are scum reading bunnies for CHANGING her stance in the list post to accomodate what everyone had been saying and to "blend" in.

You have strange reads kelsier, not liking the lack of thought at all.

Would lynch list: bunnies, kelsier



who else had the same train of thought?

my d1 read if town as bats isn't super detailed? Wow shocker.

I'm happy adding bats to my town circle d1


Becaaaaauuuse? He posted a list and said nope nope nope?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:03 GMT
#449
On December 09 2014 09:57 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 09:54 KelsierSC wrote:
I didn't like entry where she said "nb I'm also town"i don't see why she knew nb was town when at that poiny she hadn't, apparently, read the thread. Then her scum list doesn't add up. She makes the same points as nb but then nb is scum

The also town thing was already discussed. Which points does she make similarly to NB?


discussed but doesn't mean I like the explanation
Zerg for Life
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 09 2014 01:03 GMT
#450
Damdred I went back and looked and it looks like HTS and vivax have similar stances. For reasons I'm having trouble explaining, I thought HTS was scummy and I thought vivax was null. Maybe it's how they explained it. Vivax was more explicit.

There's like 4 people I want to vote right now though.

And I originally voted NB for the useless bra discussion.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:04 GMT
#451
On December 09 2014 10:01 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 10:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:44 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town



So scum can't point things out that are really null? Bats pointed out 4 things and said someone looked horrible for it when other people have near the same stance. So why such a easy town pass for bats


yeh people always say that but he analysed what she was saying and pointed out flaws, no one else did that and that is good d1 town play. I also dont like hts so


If he was thinking along these lines then why did he neglect to mention anyone else that was following the same train of thought?? Why is it scummy to agree with someone but then also scum read them? (hint: its not) why is he even scum reading bunnies in the first place because from what we've said it's because she was taking weird contradictory stances on a player that looked scummy which an overwhelming amount of time makes that player being defended actually town. Not to mention we are scum reading bunnies for CHANGING her stance in the list post to accomodate what everyone had been saying and to "blend" in.

You have strange reads kelsier, not liking the lack of thought at all.

Would lynch list: bunnies, kelsier



who else had the same train of thought?

my d1 read if town as bats isn't super detailed? Wow shocker.

I'm happy adding bats to my town circle d1


Becaaaaauuuse? He posted a list and said nope nope nope?


already gave my reasons go read
Zerg for Life
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
December 09 2014 01:05 GMT
#452
On December 09 2014 10:01 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 10:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:44 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town



So scum can't point things out that are really null? Bats pointed out 4 things and said someone looked horrible for it when other people have near the same stance. So why such a easy town pass for bats


yeh people always say that but he analysed what she was saying and pointed out flaws, no one else did that and that is good d1 town play. I also dont like hts so


If he was thinking along these lines then why did he neglect to mention anyone else that was following the same train of thought?? Why is it scummy to agree with someone but then also scum read them? (hint: its not) why is he even scum reading bunnies in the first place because from what we've said it's because she was taking weird contradictory stances on a player that looked scummy which an overwhelming amount of time makes that player being defended actually town. Not to mention we are scum reading bunnies for CHANGING her stance in the list post to accomodate what everyone had been saying and to "blend" in.

You have strange reads kelsier, not liking the lack of thought at all.

Would lynch list: bunnies, kelsier



who else had the same train of thought?

my d1 read if town as bats isn't super detailed? Wow shocker.

I'm happy adding bats to my town circle d1


Becaaaaauuuse? He posted a list and said nope nope nope?

I believe it's because he tried to point out important inconsistencies/double standards in the post of HtS.

This is my last post before studying.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 09 2014 01:05 GMT
#453
Vivax had the same train of thought. Like even more elaborated. He wasn't mentioned at all. I'm pretty sure I elaborated I didnt care about him over nb either but im not mentioned. Although that might have been later (he has made no return which is annoying), i think damd said something too maybe.

The point is he doesnt acknowledge anything like this at all and just tries to pass off something that isnt scummy as scummy and then you town read him for it which doesn't make sense at all. You are throwing out a lot of easy reads based on little information and it doesn't look good for you my friend.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 09 2014 01:05 GMT
#454
On December 09 2014 10:03 batsnacks wrote:
Damdred I went back and looked and it looks like HTS and vivax have similar stances. For reasons I'm having trouble explaining, I thought HTS was scummy and I thought vivax was null. Maybe it's how they explained it. Vivax was more explicit.

There's like 4 people I want to vote right now though.

And I originally voted NB for the useless bra discussion.



Better than a naughty naughty list and a nope nope nope.

Hope for the bats yet.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 09 2014 01:07 GMT
#455
Ok uhm we can lynch Templar because he is scum
We can lynch bats because he is scum
We can lynch kita because where the fuck is he
We can lynch sicklucker because he is reading but not interacting kthxbai
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 09 2014 01:08 GMT
#456
On December 09 2014 10:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 10:01 rsoultin wrote:
On December 09 2014 10:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:44 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town



So scum can't point things out that are really null? Bats pointed out 4 things and said someone looked horrible for it when other people have near the same stance. So why such a easy town pass for bats


yeh people always say that but he analysed what she was saying and pointed out flaws, no one else did that and that is good d1 town play. I also dont like hts so


If he was thinking along these lines then why did he neglect to mention anyone else that was following the same train of thought?? Why is it scummy to agree with someone but then also scum read them? (hint: its not) why is he even scum reading bunnies in the first place because from what we've said it's because she was taking weird contradictory stances on a player that looked scummy which an overwhelming amount of time makes that player being defended actually town. Not to mention we are scum reading bunnies for CHANGING her stance in the list post to accomodate what everyone had been saying and to "blend" in.

You have strange reads kelsier, not liking the lack of thought at all.

Would lynch list: bunnies, kelsier



who else had the same train of thought?

my d1 read if town as bats isn't super detailed? Wow shocker.

I'm happy adding bats to my town circle d1


Becaaaaauuuse? He posted a list and said nope nope nope?


already gave my reasons go read


Didn't like your reasons. Maybe you have some more. Or different ones. Or ones that make sense. Is there a return policy at this store?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:09 GMT
#457
On December 09 2014 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax had the same train of thought. Like even more elaborated. He wasn't mentioned at all. I'm pretty sure I elaborated I didnt care about him over nb either but im not mentioned. Although that might have been later (he has made no return which is annoying), i think damd said something too maybe.

The point is he doesnt acknowledge anything like this at all and just tries to pass off something that isnt scummy as scummy and then you town read him for it which doesn't make sense at all. You are throwing out a lot of easy reads based on little information and it doesn't look good for you my friend.


i gave you and bats as town right

my ff read isn't an easy read at all.

so I'm not throwing out easy reads at all. Anyway I explained bats did the analysis on hts and it felt towny to me. Plus his manner feels like the other town games bats has played
Zerg for Life
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 09 2014 01:10 GMT
#458
On December 09 2014 10:05 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax had the same train of thought. Like even more elaborated. He wasn't mentioned at all. I'm pretty sure I elaborated I didnt care about him over nb either but im not mentioned. Although that might have been later (he has made no return which is annoying), i think damd said something too maybe.

The point is he doesnt acknowledge anything like this at all and just tries to pass off something that isnt scummy as scummy and then you town read him for it which doesn't make sense at all. You are throwing out a lot of easy reads based on little information and it doesn't look good for you my friend.


Agreeing with you and nb simultaneously about what froggy said is a contradiction, especially considering that what nb said about froggy was a contradiction in itself. I think HTS is scummy for that.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 09 2014 01:11 GMT
#459
On December 09 2014 10:08 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 10:04 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 10:01 rsoultin wrote:
On December 09 2014 10:00 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:44 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Dam , think his points about hts are dead on. Feels like town



So scum can't point things out that are really null? Bats pointed out 4 things and said someone looked horrible for it when other people have near the same stance. So why such a easy town pass for bats


yeh people always say that but he analysed what she was saying and pointed out flaws, no one else did that and that is good d1 town play. I also dont like hts so


If he was thinking along these lines then why did he neglect to mention anyone else that was following the same train of thought?? Why is it scummy to agree with someone but then also scum read them? (hint: its not) why is he even scum reading bunnies in the first place because from what we've said it's because she was taking weird contradictory stances on a player that looked scummy which an overwhelming amount of time makes that player being defended actually town. Not to mention we are scum reading bunnies for CHANGING her stance in the list post to accomodate what everyone had been saying and to "blend" in.

You have strange reads kelsier, not liking the lack of thought at all.

Would lynch list: bunnies, kelsier



who else had the same train of thought?

my d1 read if town as bats isn't super detailed? Wow shocker.

I'm happy adding bats to my town circle d1


Becaaaaauuuse? He posted a list and said nope nope nope?


already gave my reasons go read


Didn't like your reasons. Maybe you have some more. Or different ones. Or ones that make sense. Is there a return policy at this store?


I'm happy with my reasons i think my read is pretty solid for d1
Zerg for Life
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 09 2014 01:11 GMT
#460
Glowing Bear im very disappointed in you my child.
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