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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 13:31 GMT
#717
On December 09 2014 22:15 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 09 2014 22:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 16:23 ritoky wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:42 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got back and here my current reads
Town: HF,Templar, OWS, Slam, Damdred, rsoultin, FF
Null: 27ninja, HTS, Ritoky
Scum: sicklucker
sicklucker doesn't seem like he normal town self for this type of game with the post limit and he just throwing a lot of fluff more than anything trying to get the limit early
I need more posts from 27ninja and Ritoky to confirm which side they on
HTS doesn't seem like himself idk why I feel like that.
As soon more people post in the game I will make more reads to add the people.


I am really interested in that read in particular. Please explain it. Also, don't really like how you devote 0 space to your town reads and all of your space to null and scum reads.

What's even stranger is that one of your town reads voted on another of your town reads right here:

On December 09 2014 12:37 rsoultin wrote:
On December 09 2014 12:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On December 09 2014 12:31 Holyflare wrote:
You should hop on bunnies after reading my filter and be led to great victory


Oh my.


##vote ObiWanShinobi

Oh crap. As in that post was complete crap.


and your response to it?

On December 09 2014 12:44 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way guys the votes go in the voting thread silly people
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472995-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells-voting-thread


you were here and actively responding to the thread and you tell him where to vote properly? why didn't you ask further into why he is reading him that way? especially when you have the OPPOSITE read for unexplained reasons. this just looks kinda fishy....i smell something funky brewing here boyz. your sicklucker read is on a guy who claimed his role and you didn't really state why you disbelieve his claim, then you waste time talking about null reads, then you give a bunch of unexplained town reads; many of which i am completely unclear on.

i really am not liking this guy.

OWS behavior is very similar to the game he was town when I was playing him on Campus Mafia when he had to replace someone.
I wasn't aiming the 2nd question at anyone particular as I seen people trying to vote in this thread instead of the voting thread that was all.
sicklucker been posting a lot more fluff than any games I played with him and he normally do some funky shenanigans to force people to make early reads awkward at best.
Also I looked at your town games FF and we played on Campus as town together that why I got a town read on you.



LS, bud, you're gonna make me push you again. Why you reading other games and not this thread? Plug in or butt out.

I been reading this game and other games because like half the people I not played with before and also I am town this game I will role claim if I have to.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 13:39 GMT
#720
On December 09 2014 22:37 Xatalos wrote:
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On December 09 2014 22:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:14 LoneMeow wrote:
LightningStrike, a bunch of stuff has happened since you posted your list post with reads, care to share some updated reads with us now?

Well not much of my reads did change as I did read the thread from where we were last night compared to today and it been mostly the same stuff as why I given them their original reads


Didn't you think anything of sicklucker's claim?

I did but it doesn't make sense though the way he acting though and when I played with him he was Vanilla town in the games I played with him when he had these weird shenanigans but I not seeing this game. This doesn't seem be the sicklucker I know.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 13:43 GMT
#723
On December 09 2014 22:38 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.


Since we clearly disagree about Fecalfeast, would you comment on my quite opposite read on him? You don't find it strange at all that he's hardly mentioned the player he's voting at all?

Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


Also, since you're still calling sicklucker your only scum read I assume you don't buy his claim?




How strong are these town reads? Can you put them in order from strongest to weakest? Would anything change if I told you to completely ignore meta and only make reads based on this game?

Strongest to Weakest in order
HF
Damdred
OWS
FF
rsoultin
Slam
Templar
Also I not buying sicklucker claim because he doesn't seem to be himself on making weird shenanigans early in the game which he does when he was Vanilla Town.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 13:46 GMT
#730
On December 09 2014 22:41 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:14 LoneMeow wrote:
LightningStrike, a bunch of stuff has happened since you posted your list post with reads, care to share some updated reads with us now?

Well not much of my reads did change as I did read the thread from where we were last night compared to today and it been mostly the same stuff as why I given them their original reads


Oh really? well let's wait for your one scum read then

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On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Since people were asking for my explanation why certain people are town in my eyes here they are atm
HF: He seemed to start a discussion and tried to move people in a town direction to get scum.
Templar: He may have a silly story telling but inside it he seemed to be town but it just my inexperience playing with him that might fool me.
OWS: I played with him once in Campus Mafia only and he had to replace someone and he seemed to post similar to how he replaced the person in that game.
Slam: Slam posting is completely different when he played scum in Titanic Mafia so I confident he is town this game.
Damdred: Damdred is also trying to lead the discussions with HF which normally a Scum wouldn't do so I got him on my list for that.
rsoultin: Newer player to this site and only played with him once but he was town and he seemed to act the same way he did when he was town.
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.
Now for my null reads
27ninja: Something seems fishy with him but I can't explain it but at the same time I cant put in town unless I get more posts from him.
HTS: Doesn't seem like himself when he was townie in a game and I can't really put him on the scum atm because he might be more conservative for this game than in his last game.
Ritoky: I never played with him before so I trying to still figure him out but he seemed to question more on people voting than leading anything.
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


your reads:
HF- obvious read that everyone is making
Templar - trying to noob claim
OWS - meta
Slam - meta in a game you didn't even play
Damdred - fine enough
rsoultin - meta
FF - meta
27nb - non-committal
HTS - meta
ritoky - wait and see

and then there's sicklucker....you say he hasn't done weird shenanigans, but he literally HAS DONE THOSE THINGS. like this is just a straight lie. if you actually were following the thread you should have very clearly read that he did the things that you should have town read him for. that has clearly changed since your original post, so why hasn't your read?

like your reads are crap, they are primarily meta, they have 0 content, 1 is a straight up lie, and they are stagnant even though a whole lot has happened. i just really cannot believe that this is in any way a town perspective.

##vote: LightningStrike

I did also play with Slam 1 game when he was scum too that why I basing my reads on him being town from that game and on Titanic and the shenanigans sicklucker normally does isn't the type he doing atm.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 13:51 GMT
#740
On December 09 2014 22:47 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:38 LoneMeow wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.


Since we clearly disagree about Fecalfeast, would you comment on my quite opposite read on him? You don't find it strange at all that he's hardly mentioned the player he's voting at all?

On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


Also, since you're still calling sicklucker your only scum read I assume you don't buy his claim?




How strong are these town reads? Can you put them in order from strongest to weakest? Would anything change if I told you to completely ignore meta and only make reads based on this game?

Strongest to Weakest in order
HF
Damdred
OWS
FF
rsoultin
Slam
Templar
Also I not buying sicklucker claim because he doesn't seem to be himself on making weird shenanigans early in the game which he does when he was Vanilla Town.


There are two things wrong with that last paragraph.

1) He claimed named VT, not regular VT. So maybe you shouldn't compare to a VT game.
2) His filter kind of does consist of shenanigans.

The shenanigans this game might just be him doing something different from the shenanigans he did in the last 2 games I played with him (Campus and Student) so it could be off because of that.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 13:52 GMT
#743
On December 09 2014 22:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Ritoky, haven't gotten a chance to look thoroughly at too many people. Just took a pass at liancourt, spoiler posts are a bit nonsensical unless he's claiming snowman, but we need to see some reads for him soon otherwise he's going to fall very quickly into the lurker pile. Not good.

liancourt posts do seem a little odd but it just might be his meta that's all I can think of him.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 13:54 GMT
#747
On December 09 2014 22:51 kushm4sta wrote:
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On December 09 2014 20:41 Holyflare wrote:
Kush could absolutely be mafia at this point of time

That all depends on if scrooge is mafia or not. I kinda read the OP but not close enough to understand wtf is going on. I'm red but I have no scum qt?

You are town if you are Scrooge but you might die tonight by Jacob Marley if you are truthful of your role claim.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 14:03 GMT
#761
On December 09 2014 22:58 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Ritoky, haven't gotten a chance to look thoroughly at too many people. Just took a pass at liancourt, spoiler posts are a bit nonsensical unless he's claiming snowman, but we need to see some reads for him soon otherwise he's going to fall very quickly into the lurker pile. Not good.

liancourt posts do seem a little odd but it just might be his meta that's all I can think of him.


I havent played with u

how would u know my meta

Ur assuming things

And soft accusing me as scum by saying i m odd

totally mafiya traits lynch this scum

I not accusing you being scum I just found the behavior odd at best don't charge at me :O Also you did play in Titanic and did do similar traps in Titanic so for now Town read but low.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 14:05 GMT
#764
On December 09 2014 23:00 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:53 Xatalos wrote:
Oh never mind, I missed this post. But how did you arrive at this from how you meta'd him to be town just minutes earlier?


I completely missed the ninja vote until Ritoky drew attention to it.


Honestly I have no idea what to think of Kush right now. I don't remember ever seeing his play being this nonsensical.

Student Mafia he did act the same way and was town but him claiming Scrooge seems like suicide if he really is Scrooge.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 14:17 GMT
#766
On December 09 2014 23:09 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 23:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:58 liancourt wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Ritoky, haven't gotten a chance to look thoroughly at too many people. Just took a pass at liancourt, spoiler posts are a bit nonsensical unless he's claiming snowman, but we need to see some reads for him soon otherwise he's going to fall very quickly into the lurker pile. Not good.

liancourt posts do seem a little odd but it just might be his meta that's all I can think of him.


I havent played with u

how would u know my meta

Ur assuming things

And soft accusing me as scum by saying i m odd

totally mafiya traits lynch this scum

I not accusing you being scum I just found the behavior odd at best don't charge at me :O Also you did play in Titanic and did do similar traps in Titanic so for now Town read but low.


If u read titantic then u shud know how i am playing is normal and not odd and yet u say its odd.

u even say i did similar traps and yet u say here that i am odd

And ur being defensive and taking a step back saying dont charge at me when i ve only given u the slighest of pressure.

Are u one of those mafiya that fall under the smallest pressure

Hey i found scum

I just found the play style odd because no one else do it don't hate me I also not mafia I am town I assure you.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 14:26 GMT
#770
On December 09 2014 23:19 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 23:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:09 liancourt wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:58 liancourt wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Ritoky, haven't gotten a chance to look thoroughly at too many people. Just took a pass at liancourt, spoiler posts are a bit nonsensical unless he's claiming snowman, but we need to see some reads for him soon otherwise he's going to fall very quickly into the lurker pile. Not good.

liancourt posts do seem a little odd but it just might be his meta that's all I can think of him.


I havent played with u

how would u know my meta

Ur assuming things

And soft accusing me as scum by saying i m odd

totally mafiya traits lynch this scum

I not accusing you being scum I just found the behavior odd at best don't charge at me :O Also you did play in Titanic and did do similar traps in Titanic so for now Town read but low.


If u read titantic then u shud know how i am playing is normal and not odd and yet u say its odd.

u even say i did similar traps and yet u say here that i am odd

And ur being defensive and taking a step back saying dont charge at me when i ve only given u the slighest of pressure.

Are u one of those mafiya that fall under the smallest pressure

Hey i found scum

I just found the play style odd because no one else do it don't hate me I also not mafia I am town I assure you.


Less assuring and more finding scum.

My read on Fecalfeast:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 21:15 LoneMeow wrote:
Fecalfeast

On December 09 2014 09:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Calvin, Calvin, calvin.

Boobs and full length high heels and Jesus was born in summer

Constant stream of nothing from you after already saying you're doing it for WIFOM. You'll run out of posts very soon at this rate.

Why are you fishing for marley specifically?

Thou'rt thick

あなたは既にルールを破って、リングの外に辞任した。なぜあなたはまだ戦うためにしようとしている

I thought being thick was a prerequisite for sumo.

"You are already breaking the rules , resigned to the outside of the ring . Why are trying to order you still fight"

No rules were established beforehand but if you don't want to fite I wont force you.

I was about to comment on the 27NB post but HF beat me to it. Her 'easy scum read' is in her scum pile because only scum is looking for easy scum reads...


This is the entirety of what he has had to say about 27ninjabunnies who I assume is his best scum read given where his vote is. Most of the filter after this point is setup talk, fluff and claiming talk.

Into the leaning scum pile you go.


You had opposite read, so clearly I'm wrong. Please point out why my analysis is incorrect.

FF plays very similar to his game on Campus where I thought he was scum but he wasn't. He also got some decent questions.
On December 09 2014 23:20 KelsierSC wrote:
Ls can you tell me what shenanigans ff has done so far?


Trollish opening with him and Slam making some funny posts but he followed up later on questions on other people. I think he steering us back on track with HF although Damdred might just be sleeping right now but I think he will help steer us to a win.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 14:45 GMT
#779
On December 09 2014 23:26 Koshi wrote:
LightningStrike,

Could you explain to the people who were not in Campus mafia, why you are towreading OWS and FF?


As town you should help others to form reads as well. It is not useful for us that you have a bunch of "I once played with this guy and after 5 posts in this game I can already see he plays similar to that one time I played with his so my conclusion is he is town". Reads like this doesn't convince me that OWS and FF are town. It doesn't convince anybody and just makes you look bad.

So can you spend 5-10 lines on why OWS and FF their play are similar to Campus mafia. And then add another 5 lines on why it is impossible that OWS and FF are mimicking their townplay as scum.
Because I have played a ton of games with OWS already and the way he is playing atm he can easily pull off as scum.


FF had a similar opening of trolling a tiny bit but he steering away from that asking some decent questions which he did also in Campus Mafia. FF as town does this type of behavior as seen here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=FecalFeast
He feels townie too this game in my opinion with the way he questioning stuff after the trolling.

OWS I might just be bias here but he had to replace KSC who acted scummy counter claiming my cop claim and he tried his best to make a town image in that game. I know he not posting a lot but I will look foward to seeing him post more to confirm my read plus it his play style as seen on Russia Today http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471815-russia-today-mini-mafia?user=ObiWanShinobi

I stand firm on them being because their play styles is very similar currently are similar to their town style of play at the moment as seen in their filters of their town games I linked to their filter so I don't think they can be scum this game if they posted similar to their town play style that all I can say.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 14:59 GMT
#784
On December 09 2014 23:48 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 23:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:19 LoneMeow wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:09 liancourt wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:58 liancourt wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Ritoky, haven't gotten a chance to look thoroughly at too many people. Just took a pass at liancourt, spoiler posts are a bit nonsensical unless he's claiming snowman, but we need to see some reads for him soon otherwise he's going to fall very quickly into the lurker pile. Not good.

liancourt posts do seem a little odd but it just might be his meta that's all I can think of him.


I havent played with u

how would u know my meta

Ur assuming things

And soft accusing me as scum by saying i m odd

totally mafiya traits lynch this scum

I not accusing you being scum I just found the behavior odd at best don't charge at me :O Also you did play in Titanic and did do similar traps in Titanic so for now Town read but low.


If u read titantic then u shud know how i am playing is normal and not odd and yet u say its odd.

u even say i did similar traps and yet u say here that i am odd

And ur being defensive and taking a step back saying dont charge at me when i ve only given u the slighest of pressure.

Are u one of those mafiya that fall under the smallest pressure

Hey i found scum

I just found the play style odd because no one else do it don't hate me I also not mafia I am town I assure you.


Less assuring and more finding scum.

My read on Fecalfeast:
On December 09 2014 21:15 LoneMeow wrote:
Fecalfeast

On December 09 2014 09:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Calvin, Calvin, calvin.

Boobs and full length high heels and Jesus was born in summer

Constant stream of nothing from you after already saying you're doing it for WIFOM. You'll run out of posts very soon at this rate.

Why are you fishing for marley specifically?

Thou'rt thick

あなたは既にルールを破って、リングの外に辞任した。なぜあなたはまだ戦うためにしようとしている

I thought being thick was a prerequisite for sumo.

"You are already breaking the rules , resigned to the outside of the ring . Why are trying to order you still fight"

No rules were established beforehand but if you don't want to fite I wont force you.

I was about to comment on the 27NB post but HF beat me to it. Her 'easy scum read' is in her scum pile because only scum is looking for easy scum reads...


This is the entirety of what he has had to say about 27ninjabunnies who I assume is his best scum read given where his vote is. Most of the filter after this point is setup talk, fluff and claiming talk.

Into the leaning scum pile you go.


You had opposite read, so clearly I'm wrong. Please point out why my analysis is incorrect.

FF plays very similar to his game on Campus where I thought he was scum but he wasn't. He also got some decent questions.


The meta again, sigh. What I really wanted you to do is comment on my read. According to you it must be wrong, so can you please explain what you disagree with in it?

Okay the setup talk after the post you had in your Quote on your read on FF was because he trying to get proof of sicklucker getting the present and baiting sicklucker to pass it to him which seems like a townie act for this setup or so I think. I don't think we know what present it is from in this set up but his intentions were town based at least I think it is town based. If he was scum he would know if it was from the Mass Murderer thus he wouldn't ask for that present from him that's all.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 15:17 GMT
#795
On December 10 2014 00:12 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Since people were asking for my explanation why certain people are town in my eyes here they are atm
HF: He seemed to start a discussion and tried to move people in a town direction to get scum.
Templar: He may have a silly story telling but inside it he seemed to be town but it just my inexperience playing with him that might fool me.
OWS: I played with him once in Campus Mafia only and he had to replace someone and he seemed to post similar to how he replaced the person in that game.
Slam: Slam posting is completely different when he played scum in Titanic Mafia so I confident he is town this game.
Damdred: Damdred is also trying to lead the discussions with HF which normally a Scum wouldn't do so I got him on my list for that.
rsoultin: Newer player to this site and only played with him once but he was town and he seemed to act the same way he did when he was town.
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.
Now for my null reads
27ninja: Something seems fishy with him but I can't explain it but at the same time I cant put in town unless I get mwore posts from him.
HTS: Doesn't seem like himself when he was townie in a game and I can't really put him on the scum atm because he might be more conservative for this game than in his last game.
Ritoky: I never played with him before so I trying to still figure him out but he seemed to question more on people voting than leading anything.
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


I DID EXACTLY THIS. I dont think hes reading the thread boys. Let me catch up. I was about to say peoples early case on me was pretty good because of my meta and how I was playing but hes still voting for me so...

Was your present thing the Shenanigans because if so nice bait as last game.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 15:20 GMT
#801
OWS can you tell us your reads and thoughts of the game so far?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 15:26 GMT
#810
On December 10 2014 00:24 sicklucker wrote:
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On December 09 2014 22:51 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:47 Xatalos wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:38 LoneMeow wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
FF: He doing similar shenanigans as he did in Campus Mafia when he was town when I played with him so I trust he is town atm.


Since we clearly disagree about Fecalfeast, would you comment on my quite opposite read on him? You don't find it strange at all that he's hardly mentioned the player he's voting at all?

On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
Now for my scumlist
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.


Also, since you're still calling sicklucker your only scum read I assume you don't buy his claim?




How strong are these town reads? Can you put them in order from strongest to weakest? Would anything change if I told you to completely ignore meta and only make reads based on this game?

Strongest to Weakest in order
HF
Damdred
OWS
FF
rsoultin
Slam
Templar
Also I not buying sicklucker claim because he doesn't seem to be himself on making weird shenanigans early in the game which he does when he was Vanilla Town.


There are two things wrong with that last paragraph.

1) He claimed named VT, not regular VT. So maybe you shouldn't compare to a VT game.
2) His filter kind of does consist of shenanigans.

The shenanigans this game might just be him doing something different from the shenanigans he did in the last 2 games I played with him (Campus and Student) so it could be off because of that.


In game one we didnt even play together I was replaced day two and you were already dead. Also in that game I missed day one and your talking about day 1 meta.

I know technically we didn't play because I got lynched Day 1 before you replaced someone but your Day 1 from last game was mostly I was referring to.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 15:30 GMT
#814
On December 10 2014 00:28 batsnacks wrote:
I'm about 8 pages behind but

I think lightning is scummy. Last game he was mafia and blatantly sheeped me. He's doing the same thing with obiwan this game.

I not sheeping anyone wtf I only asked OWS his thoughts and reads because he didn't post much of them yet but he said he will later. Whats wrong with me asking him a question?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 15:32 GMT
#817
On December 10 2014 00:30 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 10 2014 00:28 batsnacks wrote:
I'm about 8 pages behind but

I think lightning is scummy. Last game he was mafia and blatantly sheeped me. He's doing the same thing with obiwan this game.

I not sheeping anyone wtf I only asked OWS his thoughts and reads because he didn't post much of them yet but he said he will later. Whats wrong with me asking him a question?

Also Lonemeow and Koshi asked me why I put him and FF as town when most people weren't and I gave them my thoughts on why I thought they were town as seen here
On December 09 2014 23:45 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 09 2014 23:26 Koshi wrote:
LightningStrike,

Could you explain to the people who were not in Campus mafia, why you are towreading OWS and FF?


As town you should help others to form reads as well. It is not useful for us that you have a bunch of "I once played with this guy and after 5 posts in this game I can already see he plays similar to that one time I played with his so my conclusion is he is town". Reads like this doesn't convince me that OWS and FF are town. It doesn't convince anybody and just makes you look bad.

So can you spend 5-10 lines on why OWS and FF their play are similar to Campus mafia. And then add another 5 lines on why it is impossible that OWS and FF are mimicking their townplay as scum.
Because I have played a ton of games with OWS already and the way he is playing atm he can easily pull off as scum.


FF had a similar opening of trolling a tiny bit but he steering away from that asking some decent questions which he did also in Campus Mafia. FF as town does this type of behavior as seen here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=FecalFeast
He feels townie too this game in my opinion with the way he questioning stuff after the trolling.

OWS I might just be bias here but he had to replace KSC who acted scummy counter claiming my cop claim and he tried his best to make a town image in that game. I know he not posting a lot but I will look foward to seeing him post more to confirm my read plus it his play style as seen on Russia Today http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471815-russia-today-mini-mafia?user=ObiWanShinobi

I stand firm on them being because their play styles is very similar currently are similar to their town style of play at the moment as seen in their filters of their town games I linked to their filter so I don't think they can be scum this game if they posted similar to their town play style that all I can say.

and here
On December 09 2014 23:59 LightningStrike wrote:
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On December 09 2014 23:48 LoneMeow wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:19 LoneMeow wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:09 liancourt wrote:
On December 09 2014 23:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:58 liancourt wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Ritoky, haven't gotten a chance to look thoroughly at too many people. Just took a pass at liancourt, spoiler posts are a bit nonsensical unless he's claiming snowman, but we need to see some reads for him soon otherwise he's going to fall very quickly into the lurker pile. Not good.

liancourt posts do seem a little odd but it just might be his meta that's all I can think of him.


I havent played with u

how would u know my meta

Ur assuming things

And soft accusing me as scum by saying i m odd

totally mafiya traits lynch this scum

I not accusing you being scum I just found the behavior odd at best don't charge at me :O Also you did play in Titanic and did do similar traps in Titanic so for now Town read but low.


If u read titantic then u shud know how i am playing is normal and not odd and yet u say its odd.

u even say i did similar traps and yet u say here that i am odd

And ur being defensive and taking a step back saying dont charge at me when i ve only given u the slighest of pressure.

Are u one of those mafiya that fall under the smallest pressure

Hey i found scum

I just found the play style odd because no one else do it don't hate me I also not mafia I am town I assure you.


Less assuring and more finding scum.

My read on Fecalfeast:
On December 09 2014 21:15 LoneMeow wrote:
Fecalfeast

On December 09 2014 09:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 09 2014 09:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:59 Alakaslam wrote:
Calvin, Calvin, calvin.

Boobs and full length high heels and Jesus was born in summer

Constant stream of nothing from you after already saying you're doing it for WIFOM. You'll run out of posts very soon at this rate.

Why are you fishing for marley specifically?

Thou'rt thick

あなたは既にルールを破って、リングの外に辞任した。なぜあなたはまだ戦うためにしようとしている

I thought being thick was a prerequisite for sumo.

"You are already breaking the rules , resigned to the outside of the ring . Why are trying to order you still fight"

No rules were established beforehand but if you don't want to fite I wont force you.

I was about to comment on the 27NB post but HF beat me to it. Her 'easy scum read' is in her scum pile because only scum is looking for easy scum reads...


This is the entirety of what he has had to say about 27ninjabunnies who I assume is his best scum read given where his vote is. Most of the filter after this point is setup talk, fluff and claiming talk.

Into the leaning scum pile you go.


You had opposite read, so clearly I'm wrong. Please point out why my analysis is incorrect.

FF plays very similar to his game on Campus where I thought he was scum but he wasn't. He also got some decent questions.


The meta again, sigh. What I really wanted you to do is comment on my read. According to you it must be wrong, so can you please explain what you disagree with in it?

Okay the setup talk after the post you had in your Quote on your read on FF was because he trying to get proof of sicklucker getting the present and baiting sicklucker to pass it to him which seems like a townie act for this setup or so I think. I don't think we know what present it is from in this set up but his intentions were town based at least I think it is town based. If he was scum he would know if it was from the Mass Murderer thus he wouldn't ask for that present from him that's all.

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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 15:39 GMT
#822
On December 10 2014 00:37 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 00:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 10 2014 00:28 batsnacks wrote:
I'm about 8 pages behind but

I think lightning is scummy. Last game he was mafia and blatantly sheeped me. He's doing the same thing with obiwan this game.

I not sheeping anyone wtf I only asked OWS his thoughts and reads because he didn't post much of them yet but he said he will later. Whats wrong with me asking him a question?


Your post on SL was pretty much a verbatim copy of OWS' post.

Really because I didn't see OWS post on but I saw FF but it led me to think sicklucker wasn't being himself but turns out his gift claim was to bait people. I guess town sicklucker was being sneakier with this set up stuff that's all.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 09 2014 15:40 GMT
#824
liancourt can you give me your reads and thoughts please because I would like to know what your reads are that's all.
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