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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 15:42 GMT
#4054
I was under the assumption you'd instantly vote for templar after agreeing with the case. It's what I expect everyone to do, yet I don't really see anyone doing it. Strange (not really because he's mafia).

It's no question on who to vote for you because you just shouldn't give a shit if the cases are that good it's just lynching between 2 mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:08 GMT
#4058
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uabxs5rkt237b5q/vivaxhfcontract.docx?dl=0

Vivax, I have formed the required document and I request that you sign it and provide 2 witnesses to also sign said document in your presence.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:25 GMT
#4065
On December 19 2014 01:18 rsoultin wrote:
What is this about vote consolidation over 24 hrs before eod? What is this about criticizing someone for sticking with a read that they feel more sure of? Is everyone in this thread high? If xata sticks with one scumread over another at eod , in a race against someone he is not reading as scum, then you have a case. you guys make no sense to me. i think that lurking players could be scum too.

Yay lynch the lurkers. yet ill still try to lynch someone im more certain of first. how is that scummy so long as end game im willing to adjust to try to lynch the most likely scum who has a possibility of being lynched? Why dont you guys try to lynch me for the same thing youre badgering xata about?

And everyone is conveniently ignoring xatas point that vivax first argues scum acting like obvious scum then flips and says they never would. i dont even -_-


I do not want another lynch like the one that happened the other day where I almost died. I want a nice consolidated thread where I know where everyone lies and for what reasons so that I can judge them on what they are posting. There's nothing wrong with consolidating at 24 hours, 12 hours, 1 hour if you have cases on 2 people.

That read on gb has been out there for ages and my templar one has only just come up. Literally all of my templar case is damning but he says it's more of an overall case rather than someone doing scummy things outright but doesn't really explain how it's like that at all when it's not. There should be no difference between the 2 cases if they both look like mafia because 1 has done stupid retarded shit all game and the other has done scummy tootling along in the thread things, both are scummy but he tries to assign different levels of scummyness to people that are just scummy. What's the point other than trying to over explain why you are on someone rather than the other?

There isn't really at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:38 GMT
#4070
On December 19 2014 01:17 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uabxs5rkt237b5q/vivaxhfcontract.docx?dl=0

Vivax, I have formed the required document and I request that you sign it and provide 2 witnesses to also sign said document in your presence.


I won't fall for the indemnification part, you vote em or I lynch you


you bad at law bro, the indemnification part is so you can't do anything to me after the contract has ended or claim for things that arose out of the contract
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:47 GMT
#4072
On December 19 2014 01:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
On December 19 2014 01:17 Vivax wrote:
On December 19 2014 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uabxs5rkt237b5q/vivaxhfcontract.docx?dl=0

Vivax, I have formed the required document and I request that you sign it and provide 2 witnesses to also sign said document in your presence.


I won't fall for the indemnification part, you vote em or I lynch you


you bad at law bro, the indemnification part is so you can't do anything to me after the contract has ended or claim for things that arose out of the contract


I thought it was for breach of contract...?


well it's specifically worded for after the contract seeing as there are other clauses for late payment and failure to provide the service
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:49 GMT
#4073
On December 18 2014 22:41 marvellosity wrote:
Counting a week to Christmas

GlowingBear (3): LightningStrike, rsoultin, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Half the Sky
Holyflare (6): sicklucker, LightningStrike, liancourt, Vivax, Alakaslam, The_Templar, GlowingBear
The_Templar (1): Holyflare

Currently Holyflare is set to be lynched. Ages until deadline.




this is a poor show btw
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:56 GMT
#4077
On December 19 2014 01:54 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 00:58 Vivax wrote:
Xatalos is clearly squirming after saying that the only reason he prefers GB is that he's pushing scum agenda "more openly", cause it's very important to put an end to his poisonous thread influence while templar doesn't do anything of the sort and only scums in silence, so he deserves to live a bit longer (lol).

Xata if you were town it would be in your best interest to vote Templar cause he's likely to gain more traction than GB which would also prevent your townread HF from being lynched, and yet now you put it like you have reasons to believe one is more likely scum than the other??? What's giving you the feel that Templar could be town?

Nothing, but ... (insert your excuse here)


Ugh.... It feels like you make less and less sense each day. It's not like I have a huge preference between them. Let me ask you a question: there are players A and B, both of whom look like scum. You think A has done more scummy things and should have slight preference. However, you're willing to lynch both of them. Now why would you put down your vote on B first? You can just consolidate on B later if needed.


On December 19 2014 00:38 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 00:26 Holyflare wrote:
literally everything in my case makes him mafia unless you can prove that there is towny motivation behind it so to have a difference in care of who to vote is, like vivax said, fucking weird


The question is which is the best lynch, not if Templar is a *good* lynch or not. Like I said, I think your case is decent.


there is no best lynch if they are both mafia though because it's simply just lynching mafia =.=
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 16:59 GMT
#4079
this game feels so fucking peaceful when it's full of actual content and reads btw so i might just afk when sicklucker/lian turn up with their usual shit
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 17:00 GMT
#4080
On December 19 2014 01:59 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 01:25 Holyflare wrote:
On December 19 2014 01:18 rsoultin wrote:
What is this about vote consolidation over 24 hrs before eod? What is this about criticizing someone for sticking with a read that they feel more sure of? Is everyone in this thread high? If xata sticks with one scumread over another at eod , in a race against someone he is not reading as scum, then you have a case. you guys make no sense to me. i think that lurking players could be scum too.

Yay lynch the lurkers. yet ill still try to lynch someone im more certain of first. how is that scummy so long as end game im willing to adjust to try to lynch the most likely scum who has a possibility of being lynched? Why dont you guys try to lynch me for the same thing youre badgering xata about?

And everyone is conveniently ignoring xatas point that vivax first argues scum acting like obvious scum then flips and says they never would. i dont even -_-


I do not want another lynch like the one that happened the other day where I almost died. I want a nice consolidated thread where I know where everyone lies and for what reasons so that I can judge them on what they are posting. There's nothing wrong with consolidating at 24 hours, 12 hours, 1 hour if you have cases on 2 people.

That read on gb has been out there for ages and my templar one has only just come up. Literally all of my templar case is damning but he says it's more of an overall case rather than someone doing scummy things outright but doesn't really explain how it's like that at all when it's not. There should be no difference between the 2 cases if they both look like mafia because 1 has done stupid retarded shit all game and the other has done scummy tootling along in the thread things, both are scummy but he tries to assign different levels of scummyness to people that are just scummy. What's the point other than trying to over explain why you are on someone rather than the other?

There isn't really at all.


If you have 3 people who look like scum and you get to decide the lynch, do you just randomize the lynch? I didn't think so.


I just wouldn't really care who gets lynched and for all I care flipping a coin on them would be the best way to choose.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 17:02 GMT
#4082
I think that was before I actually started shitting town rainbows and making sense ^
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 17:03 GMT
#4083
I honestly don't know why that crap is still a point though because I've adequately explained it away several times about ritoky voting on a towny with his scum reads looking bad
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 17:06 GMT
#4086
On December 19 2014 02:04 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 01:59 Holyflare wrote:
this game feels so fucking peaceful when it's full of actual content and reads btw so i might just afk when sicklucker/lian turn up with their usual shit


QFT

I've wasted too much breath with ironclad logic and people aren't giving shit so I'd rather have fun with interactions instead of bringing newer and newer content.

If I'm not mafia, HF, who would you say it might be the remaining scums?


templar/oats/xata
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 17:07 GMT
#4087
and no gb your logic wasn't ironclad in the slightest seeing as it's totally wrong
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 17:08 GMT
#4088
although xata is seemingly the weakest and only just really formed from his posting recently
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 17:13 GMT
#4091
having a preference on which mafia to lynch when there should be no preference if he agrees with my case and i'm his town read, there's literally no contest to my case it's pretty much open and close!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 17:16 GMT
#4092
I mean like I was thinking to myself about gb right and I was like... yeh he's just genuinely awful a lot of the time. Then the more and more confirmation biased he became and the more wifom he decided to direct into me being mafia the more just awful he seemed instead of scummy because he actually believes his shit is ironclad when it's impossible to be

then i looked at templar and i was like fuck that guy is mafia let's lynch him

and here we are
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 17:17 GMT
#4093
even now i reckon gb is writhing in his seat like omg omg omg holy said i was his scum read omg he's so mafia now omg and i bet he's writing out some post about it too being all happy that he's caught me in some other lie as if i'd forgotten what i've typed all game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 17:28 GMT
#4095
On December 19 2014 02:25 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
I mean like I was thinking to myself about gb right and I was like... yeh he's just genuinely awful a lot of the time. Then the more and more confirmation biased he became and the more wifom he decided to direct into me being mafia the more just awful he seemed instead of scummy because he actually believes his shit is ironclad when it's impossible to be

then i looked at templar and i was like fuck that guy is mafia let's lynch him

and here we are


How do you explain these things from an awful town GB?

1) Repeatedly fishing for roles
2) Being reluctant to lynch ritoky/KSC and continuing his bad tunnel on you when they're in danger, but at other times not seeming so confident in that read (during the discussion of you being shot for example)


I highlighted the word for you. If gb doesn't end up voting templar he's literally mafia though. There's absolutely no reason not to be on templar right now even after he said my case was actually good and he knows it will be the person that will be lynched at the end of the day because i'm pushing it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 17:30 GMT
#4096
On December 17 2014 00:41 GlowingBear wrote:
STOP!
HAMMERTIME!

SL, Vivax, lian, ritoky


Get rekt.


what happened to these gb?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 18 2014 17:33 GMT
#4097
well actually can you just explain this entire fucking page because it is ridiculous

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?user=GlowingBear&page=16
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