EPTOn December 23 2014 08:19 Half the Sky wrote:
Vivax N1 was also a save??!?!? OMG.
Alakaslam was probably who you were going for N4 I take it?
Vivax N1 was also a save??!?!? OMG.
Alakaslam was probably who you were going for N4 I take it?
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On December 23 2014 08:20 sicklucker wrote: So I did kill dandred with that present. Brliantttt No, these were the N1 actions: RB LightningStrike Scrooge-kill Kush Faction kill kita sent by KelsierSC Faction kill Vivax sent by Xatalos Mass Murderer kill Damdred Branch Manager kill Koshi | ||
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On December 23 2014 08:18 GlowingBear wrote: Thanks! I actually didn't believe in my meta case too much. If you have attacked it more firmly maybe I could have backtracked. The mafia tools thing, for example, was kinda difficult to evaluate. Anyway, thanks! Well, it still wasn't totally conclusive, but I'm certain it would have convinced all of marvellosity, Hapahauli and raynpelikoneet  | ||
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On December 23 2014 08:23 LightningStrike wrote: Why you picked me to be roleblocked  In the end my role didn't matter.You hinted at being a role during D1 I think. | ||
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Hmm... I guess putting more effort into analysing stuff yourself and focusing on actually scummy motivations rather than dumb things that don't make much sense to do as scum (like Tube's crazy posting frenzies). Coaching could help with those things? You were pretty easily swayed by long cases which means you weren't very confident in your own opinions (that's understandable though). That also meant it didn't make much sense for us to kill you. | ||
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On December 23 2014 08:30 GlowingBear wrote: Xat, why I wasn't killed? You were a mislynch target, VT and it would look pretty bad for HF if you died at night. During later nights we mostly hunted for the Medic (Nigella) and people who wouldn't be protected / whose deaths wouldn't really implicate us that much. | ||
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On December 23 2014 08:36 LightningStrike wrote: This will be my 3rd complete game and 1st win too :O So I can't get coached unless someone will vouch for me to get coached in a noobie game I wasn't convenient in my scum reading because I had no chance to really do it in Campus Mafia and was Scum in Student IV Well, generally speaking time spent on learning -> skill. Just by playing / observing you will learn a lot. The most important tool for efficient scumhunting would probably be learning how the various players here play as different roles since it's usually difficult even for the best players to judge a complete question mark (smurf / new player). Although there are some general rules for scumhunting that are often correct... Such as the fact that scum often tend to be more active early and then reduce their activity, and scum often have weird reasoning for their reads (since the reads are mostly made up / they may be "true" for townreads but a townread might be stronger than it *should* be when you talk about it as scum, for example). | ||
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On December 23 2014 08:39 Fecalfeast wrote: I wish I got to blast you Xata that would have been sweet. Did you guys roleblock me last night as well? Yes. | ||
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"People who i love but am suspicious of Xatalos (its just so formulaic and looks so town, he once told me that hes probably mafia when he actually looks town)" | ||
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That's a traditional scum claim picture... forgot where it started. Anyways it's been years, I think. | ||
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On December 23 2014 09:33 LightningStrike wrote: Xata why you guys killed bats? Was it to frame me from my last scum game? He wanted to kill HF and he wasn't likely to be protected. He was also possibly Mason (he said something like "I know everything that LoneMeow thought about"). By the way, who *were* the other Mason and third Ghost? | ||
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Well, he wasn't a particularly dangerous target either. | ||
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On December 23 2014 09:46 rsoultin wrote: >> the game isnt over over yet is it? Behold my ultimate plan of having all the roles claim now and snipe them | ||
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On December 23 2014 12:04 Damdred wrote: 1) Screw everyone who 100% said "DAMDRED DIED FROM A PRESENT". That was the most horrible thing to say and was quite insulting! 2) I really wish people would of looked at my filter more and caught on especially to the ritoky thing and Xata thing especially with his response on day two onward his play didn't change and he was so mafia. 3) HF shouldn't of lived past d3, that vote d2 just showed how horribly mafia he was haha 4) Town sure did turn that around it was a great job 5) Lian was the town MVP I think No way you'd have been killed by scum right? HahahaLuckily nobody looked at your reads either because of that speculation. | ||
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On December 23 2014 19:50 liancourt wrote: After rereading i dont think town would have won without hts. I sure as hell wasnt going to convince town hf was scum when it was obvious. kudos to hts I agree... I feel like we would have won if HTS didn't make almost perfect night actions. That's why I think she was town MVP. You certainly had good reads but you were more of an annoyance than a threatening presence with the style of your posting | ||
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On December 24 2014 03:30 marvellosity wrote: Palmar already said it but you have to understand that a different style to yours (which is slow, logical, methodical) does not equal mafia. You were throwing suspicion on GB for his very, very, very townie push, and you were also pushing suspicion on sicklucker who was actually just incredibly townie in every facet. And essentially you didn't have mafia on HF for ages (despite the damning voting on d2 but that's something else) because he posted in a way you approved of with his cases. This was quite a strange game in one way because normally I feel a lot of mafia members are too bus-happy, whereas in this game all the mafia had a hard-on for defending other mafia at almost every turn, and in the end it tied them all together. Trfel, liancourt, and sicklucker especially understood what happened d2 with great game-reading sense - essentially all the mafia piled on KsC in an attempt to save Holyflare. Xatalos and KsC cross-defended each other repeatedly, Xatalos+Oats defended HF constantly, HF defended Xatalos, etc etc. Oats' play was just dire, but if mafia had played the d2 lynch better and/or Xata had judiciously bussed HF at the right time, mafia might have stood more of a chance. Hehe. I've often been far too happy to bus so I basically tried to defend my team this time around It worked somewhat well too. Well, in the end it kind of gave me away... But if there weren't some unfortunate blunders on our side or if HTS didn't use her role (almost) perfectly, I think the chances were good for a (near) flawless victory. I wasn't really suspected for my associating with scum until very later either. | ||
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