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I think we can afford to lynch me at this point in time because a lot of this game is being wasted by pointless arguing about me. I wanted mafia to shoot me last night because I'm just a vt and it would clear up everything for you guys but it didn't work.
If you decide to look the other way then cool, mafia almost certainly have a rb and obi must have looked super obvious with those lm quotes so ritoky claiming rb is absolutely not possible unless there is a nigella that protected him for some reason (don't claim). In a world where ritoky is mafia (this world) I am most certainly not.
Listen to rsoul (hehe sounds like arse hole) about gb, he's pretty smart. Gb didn't want to shoot me last night at all despite being so sure that I'm mafia. Doesn't make sense. Not to mention that his "point by point breakdown" of all my defenses NEVER happened. There is no rebuttal from him because he was wrong and he pushed lies and he's trying to save face. Even today he's said "oh hf is mafia unless he claims vet" what the bs is that? Who puts a qualifier on a mafia read before that person has even returned to the thread to explain things? Then when I still wasn't around and after saying I could be town if i claim vet HE'S STILL ONLY PUSHING ME AS MAFIA. 3 days later and he's still pushing his 1 terrible mafia read without ever saying he's wrong but giving loads of reasons why he should be wrong.
##vote ritoky
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I also sent my present out yesterday. Happy birthday.
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I also don't mind you voting me I literally just said that
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On December 15 2014 15:52 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 15:47 Holyflare wrote:
I also sent my present out yesterday. Happy birthday. omg... why didnt you come out like when we asked? To who btw they have to come out with a check today anyway.
Why do you think i told you that a dead person could have sent it day 1??? Kita probably sent it to me or something. They can't come out with a check until tomorrow. Also claiming I had a present would be fucking dumb because I wanted to use it obviously.
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On December 15 2014 15:55 sicklucker wrote:
So your playing against your win condition as town but not necessarily as mafia? Thats cool tell us who you sent the present to as town it will help us if you have given up.
How the fuck am i playing against my win condition by not revealing i have a present???
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You send presents during the day and receive them at night. I received a present n1 and didn't open it. Why on earth would I claim I have a present when you were telling people how fucking dumb claiming a present was. I also don't have much free time /much enthusiasm about the game so I thought I'd just send it to someone the end of day 2 so they could open it and get a role check. Especially if it looks like i was going to die.
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On December 15 2014 16:01 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so let me explain something. Presents are sent during the day and opened at night, hes claiming to have gotten the present yesterday and not have opened it last night and sent it to someone today. This is a complete lie because even if he dies at night the present is lost so the only logical town thing to do IS TO OPEN IT. Like he just dug his own grave its over
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Give it to someone so it's not completely lost??
How many brain cells are you missing there buddy
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On December 15 2014 15:58 liancourt wrote:
for crying out loud HF needs to flip so we can analyze what the hell was going on day 2.
If he's town mafia were on his train.
If he's scum then we have to factor in tube and ff and why ppl moved off of tube to vote ff and then moved to kel.
Xatalos, Half the Sky: tube to ff to kel
sicklucker, The_Templar, Fecalfeast: tube to hf
vivax: ff to hf
slam, tube: kel to hf to ff to kel
lian: kel
frog, LS: tube
GB, bats: HF
HF, kel: ff
oats: vivax
this is how ppl roughly moved their votes 3 hrs before deadline yesterday.
HF flipping will give us tons of info.
This is perfectly fine and exactly what I just told you to do. So ignore me and find actual mafia please. Talking about me isn't going to change anything other than give mafia an easy topic to wifom about. Lynch me off, find out I'm town but continue to talk about relevant topics instead.
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On December 15 2014 16:08 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 16:03 Holyflare wrote:On December 15 2014 16:01 sicklucker wrote:
Ok so let me explain something. Presents are sent during the day and opened at night, hes claiming to have gotten the present yesterday and not have opened it last night and sent it to someone today. This is a complete lie because even if he dies at night the present is lost so the only logical town thing to do IS TO OPEN IT. Like he just dug his own grave its over Or Give it to someone so it's not completely lost?? How many brain cells are you missing there buddy Regardless of the sequence of events you had the present in your possession for one night. Your vt why did you not open it? Why did you send it to someone else that could be mafia, or could die and we lose the ability. Its so bad of a vt play, your not this bad your mafia.
I had the present on n1 and I didn't want to die??? Like i can't even understand you here you're being intentionally dumb. I gave it to someone that I thought might actually be town and wouldn't be shot. I was clearly going to die one way or another and it would be a massive waste. You're telling me I should have kept it and opened it n2 and also should hope to survive till day 4 when everyone in this game basically wants to lynch me today???
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On December 15 2014 16:13 sicklucker wrote:
So holyflares claiming vt and that he passed the present on. If this is true its about as bad as kush's play holyflares not that bad. Why would he risk sending it to mafia, and why would he risk an extra day of the present holder being killed by mafia and losing the present forever for team town. The answer is because hes mafia. Like this is so open and shut lets go boys.
We know the kill present is probably out of play.
A) I'm not terrible at reading town people
B) you're saying i should have used it even though I am the highest likelihood person of dying but i shouldn't send it to someone i think may have been town because they COULD die??
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On December 15 2014 16:20 liancourt wrote:
vote HF end the day have night come
So we're just going to sit here for 48 hours twiddling our thumbs? Why not even comment on what i said about ritoky? There's absolutely no way he is town and there's absolutely no way we are mafia together yet you still want to vote me off instead of discuss that.
It's funny that you even want to kill both of us.
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Although if ritoky is mafia then his vig present claim is pretty ridiculous because why wouldn't he use it last night as mafia for a free kp? Especially if they are rbing obi that would just auto set him up today to be lynched by claiming to be rb'd because obi looks super obviously like the vig to them with the lm comments.
There's also the chance that he didn't open the present but if that were the case he super gambled that he got the vig shot and that the other present was the role check.
I dunno what's going on here.
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On December 15 2014 16:23 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 16:19 Holyflare wrote:On December 15 2014 16:13 sicklucker wrote:
So holyflares claiming vt and that he passed the present on. If this is true its about as bad as kush's play holyflares not that bad. Why would he risk sending it to mafia, and why would he risk an extra day of the present holder being killed by mafia and losing the present forever for team town. The answer is because hes mafia. Like this is so open and shut lets go boys.
We know the kill present is probably out of play. A) I'm not terrible at reading town people B) you're saying i should have used it even though I am the highest likelihood person of dying but i shouldn't send it to someone i think may have been town because they COULD die?? IF YOU DIE IN THE NIGHT YOU DIE WITH THE PRESENT , so a vt would open it regardless. You either made a donkey play or are lieing. With that being said if you are town only a town would send a town a present, so if we can confirm that person as town we confirm two towns so please dont role over and die.....
You're so clueless it's ridiculous. I'm never going to open something where i have a 1/3 chance of dying over trying to solve the game myself. Never ever ever ever in a million years.
I'm also most definitely not rolling over and dying i literally just gave super solid reads which you dismissed and talked about presents instead.
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Although like i just posted my ritoky read may be a little flawed now
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On December 15 2014 16:35 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah, I don't see a way that ritoky and vig are both town and both RBd, unless the medic chose to protect ritoky from getting NKd and didn't realize that their power also acts as a RB...or didn't care that their power also acts as a RB.
Though this would apply to a ritoky of any alignment.
Obviously the medic didn't visit the vig.
Mafia power roles seem a bit weak though. Potentially could be a godfather with the amount of disgruntled there were which would make him quite powerful.
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I'm not horrible I'm good at this game and don't want to die to rng.
Lian, mafia could have been in people defending me and so switching to me would look extremely terrible. They could also already be on my wagon or they could just be an afker like oats.
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On December 15 2014 16:50 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 16:41 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not horrible I'm good at this game and don't want to die to rng.
Lian, mafia could have been in people defending me and so switching to me would look extremely terrible. They could also already be on my wagon or they could just be an afker like oats. This is endless WIFOM and you know it HF i didn't want this kind of WIFOM discussion today so I wanted you to flip during the night.
Which is why the first thing i told you to do was vote me -.- are you just not reading that? Why on earth do you think I claimed a role if not to draw a shot and end the wifom. Leaving me alive is the ULTIMATE wifom mafia could possibly do because it ensures a mislynch and another day of gb etc skating by with 1 read the entire game.
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On December 15 2014 16:53 liancourt wrote:
There is absolutely no progression in discussion with you being alive.
I'm sorry but you really need to die and flip.
This is also silly. You can just branch your discussion into 2 themes. 1 where i flip mafia and 1 where i flip town. Stop giving excuses to not participate though. There's also reads that can be given independent of my alignment you know like a normal mafia game
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