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Fine. /in | ||
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On November 25 2014 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote: Trying to get one of jat/hf/marv lynched seems like way too much effort, and being on a scum team against that is also more effort than I think I want to give. Join and fight with me you coward. | ||
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You cannot get me all excited to play mafia and then leave. Get back here and /in right now. I command you. | ||
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On November 25 2014 03:32 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, come on wave - we will just roll scum and own them again. Saving mislynching Obi for LYLO of course ^_^ Not this time, son. I know your bag of tricks. I'm watching you. | ||
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You're taking all the fun/satisfaction out of me catching you. | ||
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And it's all because I'm here. | ||
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Then I will lynch him and become confirmed town hero. | ||
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On November 27 2014 10:13 WaveofShadow wrote: You're trying too hard bbygrl | ||
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You don't have a case on sn0. Stop being a dick. | ||
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2) Defensiveness isn't really a scumtell when you're threatening to lynch people off of very little. I fail to see how what you said dictates his alignment. | ||
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On November 27 2014 10:27 Holyflare wrote: not when role pm's get sent out an hour early because that's a whole hour of a mafia pm being left to sink in and so he'd just give up and go to bed early at rolling mafia in this probably stacked game i'm almost positive the first message in the qt is like "we're so fucked" look at your response, i ask you to comment on something you are reluctant but end up doing it anyway look at his response, i ask him to comment on it and he gives a VERY generic "i dont vote on ANYONE EVER early" response and then criticises me and leaves what good natured towny wants to shut down any productive discussion even if it's misplaced? the answer is no good natured towny ever I don't know if Jat really thinks like that, per se. I remember him putting off his entry in Werewolf off for a while, but it was more along the lines of "I'm tired," rather than, "fuck it." He's a hardcore team player as scum, so I don't think him fucking off immediately just because he thinks his team is fucked from the get-go is a thing he would actually do. As for the sn0 thing, I'm willing to let it play out even if I don't feel particularly strongly about it. | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:12 Holyflare wrote: I mean you've hosted like a million games sentinel surely you're aware of how this game works by now???? Woosh. | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:19 Superbia wrote: Does geript try to make friends when he's mafia? Or is he this callous regardless of alignment? I remember him complimenting Robik once, despite hating him. He was mafia. Take that as you will. | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:20 Holyflare wrote: I don't think you realise it's not a whoosh Seemed kinda wooshy to me. | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:21 Holyflare wrote: Either way you can ignore the jat thing if you're so hung up about the not posting wifom. Talk about sn0. I don't really see what else I can say about sn0. | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:25 Superbia wrote: I love the information sn0 brought to the thread so far: Felt like mafia trying to seem useful. How are you drawing this conclusion, exactly? | ||
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Stay beautiful. | ||
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(If you actually go to sleep now, I'd like an answer when you wake up.) | ||
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See you. (I'm going to IHOP bbl.) | ||
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Maybe. | ||
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Get some, son. | ||
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On November 28 2014 06:09 marvellosity wrote: Try using dickbutt on me, Obi, and I'll take it as a compliment I'll do whatever I want to you and you'll like it. | ||
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On November 28 2014 06:20 marvellosity wrote: well i think i townread rayn now i also think i townread holyflare and geript i townread obi sentinel might be town for terrible reasons palmar wildcard already my list is shrinking I agree with almost all of this list. The only exception I might have is Holyflare, but eh. I don't feel too strongly about him one way or the other. | ||
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@Jat: Not really. I just don't feel like anything HF has said is something he couldn't replicate as scum. It's not exactly a strong read, nor would it be one that I would pursue much without letting him do his thing for a while. Sentinel isn't really getting bogged down in the same kind of nonsense he was in his last outing, so townlean for him. Geript shared a couple of thoughts I had that I didn't post before, mostly on Marv and Superbia before Marv started doing stuff. Townlean for him. That's pretty much where I stand right now. | ||
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Now people are going to use me being lazy as an excuse to scumread me. How annoying. | ||
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On November 28 2014 06:30 marvellosity wrote: the simple fact of the matter, obi, is that townies find it a lot easier to be productive than mafia, and you in particular this is true, your scumgames are very unproductive. =/ Back to the drawing board, then. | ||
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Not exactly a solid read, but...There you go. | ||
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On November 28 2014 07:13 Holyflare wrote: He did "demotivated" as mafia with jat in the game you are salty jat beat you in Was he actually demotivated, though? I remember most of the accusations on him were centered around him being "robotic" and "calculated." Here it doesn't seem like he gives a shit. | ||
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Watch: | ||
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I'm just going to leave for a while. | ||
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He's also been representing a bunch of people's metas and whatnot. | ||
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I don't find them particularly compelling to warrant yelling at each other over. | ||
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On November 28 2014 10:22 marvellosity wrote: he's been what now? The things that I responded to over the Wave/Jat cases he brought up. Both of them were wrong. He also based both of them off of "not playing because demotivated." | ||
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It's the demotivation thing that bugs me. | ||
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o.o | ||
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On November 28 2014 10:30 marvellosity wrote: don't quit mafia really, jeez :/ | ||
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On November 28 2014 10:36 geript wrote: Looking towny/not getting lynched is a lot though. It really is. | ||
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Interesting. Let's see how that turns out. | ||
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Someone should make themselves sheepable in the mean time because I don't have any good scumreads right now, and I doubt I'll have one later. | ||
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On November 28 2014 15:04 geript wrote: ##unvote ##vote Obiwan Like get the fuck out of here with that shit. wat | ||
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lol wtf | ||
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This game is going to be fun. | ||
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On November 28 2014 15:22 geript wrote: He ran who was getting lynched from mid D1 on. Like he only acquiesced on D2 or 3 to my push on Cavalinho maybe because I had a really good yow read on a newbie. Oh yeah? Was he scum? | ||
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On November 28 2014 15:33 WaveofShadow wrote: You're annoying me. Stop it or I'll let geript lynch you. Jesus, alright dude. Cripes. | ||
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Talking about this Cavalinho guy, specifically. | ||
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On November 29 2014 01:32 justanothertownie wrote: Yes, but he hasn't made his trademark awful list post he always does as mafia. No superficial and noncommital reads like I said earlier. Eh. | ||
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Expect nothing. | ||
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Alternatively we can kill the guy who started it. | ||
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It's probably fine. | ||
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I still want to lynch you. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:52 Superbia wrote: Like are we lynching damd here or what? I think we should go on GB and see where his flip takes us. =\ | ||
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When I get to a computer I'll figure it out. | ||
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On November 29 2014 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:JAT jumps on directly after marv.. And? | ||
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How does whatever Superb did make him scum? I don't even understand your issue with HF. What's wrong with Jat's jump? | ||
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On November 29 2014 10:01 Damdred wrote: Super asking if anyone played with me before is weird Town weird or scum weird? Why? | ||
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I'll have to get to this game in a bit. | ||
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On November 29 2014 15:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Did the math wrong with the upvotes. JAT is the scum here between the two. Uhm? How? | ||
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Jat is also town. | ||
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On November 30 2014 03:10 justanothertownie wrote: Well, he definitely WAS at some point... lol Also, I had an epiphany while strangling people: the Wave slot is prbs town. I had a hard time seeing Wave's back-and-forth with rayn being exclusively scum-motivated, so I'd say give iamp plenty of time to catch up and do stuff. I think someone already kind of played on this point, but eh. | ||
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@Damdred: I'm not sure atm. I want to give the thread a once-over, but I can't do so until after work, which I'm heading to quite shortly. | ||
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I just bought an xbone. | ||
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'Cause I feel like that's the case. | ||
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On November 30 2014 10:33 geript wrote: It's ok Obi. One day you can grow a pair, have a few drinks and put on your big boy pants. But then my recovery will slow down and my liver will be a better target for punches/kicks. | ||
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On November 30 2014 10:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Your posts were too pretty. Also, information lynching. | ||
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On November 30 2014 10:36 geript wrote: Oh. Well if you're in recomery than goodfor you. Keep it top. Who do you thunk is cum! There are many things wrong with this sentence. I will address none of them. It's fine. | ||
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No, I just can't train as hard if I drink. So I don't. Never cared for the stuff, really. | ||
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Is there anything to even talk about at this point? I don't see reasons to lynch anyone else until Damdred does stuff. | ||
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I like your style. I would do anything for marv though. | ||
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On December 01 2014 08:29 Damdred wrote: If I'm so scrum then there gas to be some interactions or lack thereof with my mate's look for the other scrum don't waste the day Then...Find them? You're on the hot seat bro. | ||
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On December 01 2014 08:35 justanothertownie wrote: You mean he is supposed to tell us who his buddy is? You know what I mean. Stop being a dickbutt. | ||
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Well you claimed tracker and you said that there's probably a mafia in the people rayn didn't interact with. Okay. Those are things. So...What? | ||
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On December 01 2014 08:50 Holyflare wrote: *clap clap* how is me being html related to this at all? also you are being incredibly underwhelming and very like your werewolf game and it's giving me the mafia feels Was responding to what Damdred said. I still don't know what his angle is by bringing it up. | ||
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On December 01 2014 08:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote: And? This was aimed at the post above that big one. Egh. I'll iso some people or some shit. Idk. | ||
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I have a couple pages of filter on him, and I work for like 10 hours a day. | ||
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You yourself should be aware of how easy it is to misinterpret my meta so I don't know what you're trying to pull by saying "you're underwhelming so you're mafia." | ||
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On December 01 2014 09:07 Holyflare wrote: why should i be aware of that? it looks very similar to me and you even said at the game it's because you had no time to play that game and here we are with your excuse of little time to play this game? I used this fact as ammo during my one and only successful outing as scum so you should be aware that you don't have anything here. What the fuck are you doing? | ||
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I'm saying that me being inactive/not having a 22 page filter doesn't make me mafia. Holyflare should be well aware of his inaccuracy in his Obi meta yet he's pushing my inactivity as something really important. | ||
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On December 01 2014 09:11 justanothertownie wrote: And if people shouldn't then why the fuck are you complaining about getting questioned? Stop that and use your time in a useful way please. I'm defending myself? >.> | ||
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On December 01 2014 09:14 Holyflare wrote: I'm not pushing your inactivity!? I'm saying your game right now looks exactly like a game where you were mafia in. I literally do not understand how you can interpret that in any other way????? Underwhelming and inactivity go hand in hand, no? | ||
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Give me a minute. | ||
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On December 01 2014 09:22 Holyflare wrote: what happened to this superbia suspicion by the way? it evaporated into thin air, you also questioned wave over points on superbia shortly after on how they didn't make him mafia it's gone it replaced into "i'm sure we can get hf lynched" and then nothing more ever Didn't really disappear. Was responding to geript about you. | ||
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I remember marv/Jat coming up with meta reasons to call him town, but I couldn't necessarily say I agreed with them. He's this really weird entity I don't really know how to approach anymore. | ||
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On December 01 2014 09:33 Superbia wrote: That doesn't explain your read at all. It doesn't. I'm in this weird limbo and I don't know what to do with you. I just don't see any reason to put you firmly in one camp or the other, and I feel like I need some additional input to get it through my thick skull. | ||
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On December 01 2014 09:33 Holyflare wrote: but he's somehow mafia and you voted for him? It's a day 1 read, hf. I even spent the majority of it saying that I didn't really have a strong read. Unless you genuinely think that I went from 0-100 based on his posts being too pretty. Which honestly wouldn't surprise me. | ||
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On December 01 2014 09:59 Holyflare wrote: you could always ask to send in your kp so your dreams can come true You should track me. Then you can watch me running over to your mafia house and shooting you in the face. With my gun. That is totally real. Yes. | ||
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Got to pad your filters out somehow though, I guess. | ||
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I remember seeing exactly where geript was coming from several times. I want to say he's town since my blind defenses of other players are generally pretty solid when it comes to stopping bullshit pushes...So I will. It's fine. By this same logic, I could probably call sn0 town as well. I can't say it's because "he's so obviously town lol" but I have a good radar for picking out bullshit pushes, which sn0 was getting pegged with early day 1. Is it enough? For now, prbs. Holyflare is a claimed tracker. Those are the reads I feel relatively good about right now. Damdred's push for reads and his desire to keep discussion off of himself since his lynch is basically a done deal is a start, at the very least. There's some other nice stuff in his filter, like trying to calm the thread down when everybody was fighting. I looked into why we're killing him, and...Eh. I've never been a fan of associative reads. Ever. For what it's worth, the last time Damdred was scum and got totally fucking boned like he supposedly is now, he made a case on his remaining partner out of nowhere to try and save himself. Here, it's more like he's grasping at whatever he can get his hands on and desperately trying to move the thread forward. Does it mean anything? I honestly don't know. I've played with rayn as mafia once and he got vigi'd out of nowhere on night 1; I can't say I know rayn's meta enough to say "this is exactly what he would do." At the same time, I don't really see a reason to vote anyone else at this stage. I accept the fact that I might be getting AtE'd here and suckered into not voting him since Damdred is sort of adorable and whatnot, but I might need a bit of a push to join this wagon. I just don't feel confident on him either way, so I want to see him play today out. (Though if he doesn't step up, my vote is going to default to him just because I won't have the time to bail him out if he insists on not being super useful.) Superbia...I'm going to need time to flesh this read out. I kind of put stock into what Marv and Jat were saying about him in the sense that he's way more focused than he was before after reviewing his filter. I still don't like his bit about information lynching and whatnot, but townies do that too, so. I'm probably going to accept the fact that I can't really read him reliably. Still, prbs a town lean. I actually forgot Sentinel was in the game, albeit he isn't playing anything like he was back in Campus. So that's a thing. Palmar also exists. So...that's kind of where I stand right now. I don't really have a super definitive read on Damdred, but I usually base my play on the main lynch of the day. I want him to see how he plays today out because I don't really see any other alternatives to him atm. | ||
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Now get off my dick. | ||
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Nah. You can get lynched. If you're just going to act like an idiot and nitpick at my posts then I'm just going to vote you and leave. I've explained my thought processes and you're just like "no, lol." Gtfo. | ||
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On December 01 2014 15:15 justanothertownie wrote: It would be appreciated if you answered the stuff he brought up instead of omgussing since I think he has a point. Uhm. He doesn't? I fail to see what point was worth discussing since I feel like almost everything he brought up has been explained adequately. | ||
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On December 01 2014 15:14 Damdred wrote: stop focusing on me, you are being useless for town atm. If you think I'm scum and your town how does what you doing find the ladt mafia? Give reads sent @obi why waste a vote on someone you think is town in hf and blue at that Because he's being scummy? Like mafia can't fakeclaim, for srs. | ||
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Now I do something and FUCK HE'S NOT CALLING PALMAR OUT. I'm not even voting Damdred right now. I said if he doesn't pick his play up and look more town, then I'd vote him. Is my vote on him now? Is my read on him solid? It isn't, and it's not, so saying that I'm just going to up and fucking lynch Damdred because I think he could be townie at the end of the day is literally stupid. | ||
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On December 01 2014 15:25 justanothertownie wrote: No, you are instead wasting your vote on the uncced blue who is never going to be lynched today. Cool. | ||
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If Damdred is townie, I will save him. If he isn't, I won't. I am not 100% in my read on him and if I don't feel confident then he could die for all I care. Now you have no reason for not understanding it and pushing it further is a scumclaim. Good day to you, sir. | ||
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Where did you go? | ||
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Good to know. | ||
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Expect nothing. | ||
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Also Damdred looks much better. Hrm. | ||
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Also I'm not mafia. | ||
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Meh. He won't have the opportunity to call me town and lynch me right after anyway. | ||
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But I guess you overlooked the part where I said "I can't defend him on my phone." Whatever fits your narrative I guess. | ||
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As if it has never happened before. | ||
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On December 02 2014 12:29 Holyflare wrote: this is nothing to do with the deadline, you literally left your vote wasted on an un cc'd blue for no apparent reason whatsoever (because you were butthurt really) which could easily be changed on a phone and you just didn't give a shit, you also town read damd and did nothing about it which is also nothing to do with the deadline all you have done is afk and want to not lynch the people that should be scummiest to you What scummy people? I don't think I've called a single person mafia all game except for you. | ||
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Good to know you're still not reading my posts. | ||
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Am I supposed to put no stock into my other townreads voting him off en-masse? Alternatively alternatively, why is it that you're totally okay with voting Damdred off and then blaming me for it? If my reasoning was strong, why didn't you sheep it? The angle you're taking here doesn't make sense. | ||
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On December 02 2014 13:11 Holyflare wrote: i'm not blaming anyone for voting damd, I just didn't really care enough to stop it which is as simple as that You're doing that though. You're doing it right now. If my read is a fully fleshed out townread to you, then why the fuck did you vote him anyway? Saying you don't care about my townread, which was apparently super accurate to you and not to me, and then immediately saying that I'm scum for not saving the townread that I wasn't even aware of having is super fucking weird...Especially when your most important angle is "letting your townread die." Rest of your case is "you haven't done enough," to which I say "stuff it." | ||
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But saying I'm scum for not saving him when I wasn't even available to save him at the only point where saving him was feasible is ludicrous. | ||
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Still a useless vote but meh. Can't say I'm one to talk here. | ||
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You're basing your analysis that three people say I was right and being really weird about it, while I'm basing my analysis on other people saying they're right and being really weird about it. Therein lies the problem; I was in the weird position of having a reasonable read that was contradictory to what several players, many of whom I respect as competent, had as their perception of the game, and I couldn't decide if I wanted to trust my own experience or theirs. And you know what? I still don't know what I would have done even if I was here. The alternative wagon at the end of the day was a claimed doctor, and I might have ended up sheeping Jat at the end of it all because I don't think I would have lynched between Damdred/sn0 in that situation. So maybe I still would have wound up useless. I don't know. I didn't have an alternative lynch in the wings anyways. Do you really think that scum-me can't concoct some stupid bullshit to feed you, which I did and got away with repeatedly in the past? Or do you just think that I didn't have a strong read that I could push to rival the Damdred wagon? I don't care if you think my thought process isn't normal; I'm not mafia. | ||
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On December 02 2014 13:52 Holyflare wrote: and why didn't I listen to it?! it was all unproven meta that only you know about because you were talking about it also cz you normally bad reads yo If my reads are so bad then why are you pressing me on them? | ||
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I know he's just gonna claim a track me at the end of the night anyway so wharvez. | ||
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bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww" | ||
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On December 02 2014 19:41 justanothertownie wrote: Think hard about it I am sure you will find the solution. If you dare comparing my vote to yours again I might start supporting HF. I definitely didn't already say this. Definitely. | ||
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Gdi. | ||
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On December 03 2014 00:50 Superbia wrote: Yo plammar. If you don't JK sn0, and KP is not reduced during the night, you're literally claiming mafia. No pressure. I don't think this is how jailkeepers work though. | ||
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On December 03 2014 01:00 marvellosity wrote: i've decided sentinel is a million percent mafia Tempted to roll with this. | ||
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On December 03 2014 06:42 justanothertownie wrote: Also I am pretty drunk right now so don't expect me do post any intelligent things. Like normal, I presume. | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:42 Superbia wrote: I watched HF. Why? | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:44 Sn0_Man wrote: BTW palmar you 100% shoulda saved HF since we actually don't need his tracks anymore i dont think. Superbia's scum and that leaves 1 more scum total. Likely sent or shinobi but w/e. I am shinnocent. | ||
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On December 03 2014 08:32 Superbia wrote: We won without ever lynching mafia. Pretty next level. Right? Scum was winning super hard, too. Huh. | ||
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On December 03 2014 08:35 Palmar wrote: You dumb bro. My scenario was perfectly fine. I just had to lynch geript today, then you tomorrow (shoot superbia in the night and roleblock you) and then convince sent, jat, obi that shiaopi is literally the worst balancer of roles ever and somehow made a game with doc, jk, tracker, watcher. It's ez. This actually would have been conceivable had sentinel kept up his uselessness. | ||
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That would have been amazing. | ||
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No that's not possible. | ||
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Just something to keep in mind. It is the most ridiculous thing ever but I'll remember it. | ||
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At least I didn't come back to vote off the doctor, though. Damdred getting lynched was shitty but at least he was just green. | ||
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On December 03 2014 12:24 Holyflare wrote: just like my mafia meta being broken ehhhhh? :D JUST LIKE MINE BRO. | ||
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Overall review of town, honestly I think the real problem is that so few people projected towniness well. GB had points where I found him towny, Sent too. Super and Sn0 I'd have been happy to lynch if I had been town. Palmer I never fucking know what to do with. I know Wave bitches/hates the fact that he's good at projecting towniness but bad at finding scum. The honest truth is that just being "towny" and being easily perceived as being "towny" is tough. Like being unlynchable because you're so towny is huge. It's a huge benefit. Seriously. I can't tell you how much trouble I've had with this in the past, so having someone act like it's not even a thing to not get lynched ever is kinda lame. Plus, Wave found rayn with relative ease and got him to modkill himself. That's like the crowning achievement of mafia: if you can play to the point where you can get a member of the opposite alignment to modkill themselves, you won the game so hard the scoreboard turned into diamonds. | ||
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On December 03 2014 13:05 Holyflare wrote: yeh getting modkilled as mafia is.... terrible Yeah. Can't imagine anyone else modkilling themselves as mafia. Defo. | ||
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Maybe a ghost. Or a tank. Idk. | ||
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