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On November 25 2014 03:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Am very disappoint. You're taking all the fun/satisfaction out of me catching you. ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha | ||
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then some more lube and then even more lube | ||
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On November 25 2014 14:58 Alakaslam wrote: He comes You summoned him with the speaking of butthijole Speaking of which HF if you isn't alreAdy on OMGUS you should be /replace I stay away to stop dp being more butt hurt | ||
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On November 26 2014 01:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Rayn, marv, and WoS in one game? Looks like I'm going to have to do a lot of reading not even include me /hate | ||
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On November 26 2014 01:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: You haven't been that much trouble for me yet. Unlike rayn's 45 page filter in I Titanic http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Holyflare like my fantasy football one? | ||
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On November 27 2014 08:26 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol as if I play that anymore. ##vote Holyflare uh huh | ||
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On November 26 2014 23:17 justanothertownie wrote: Disclaimer: I won't be able to be as active as I was in FFL 2 which was ridiculous. I am currently working fulltime and all I had to do while that game happened was studying at home. The deadline is generally really really nice but I might miss it during the weekend. only time he can't make deadlines are weekends deadline is really really nice where is jat? answer is mafialand qqing that he rolled mafia in here with a full time job | ||
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On November 27 2014 09:04 geript wrote: I'm the second best player in this game. Why wouldn't I have something to prove. Plus all the vets except Palmer I have great reads on. That makes me the most important town player in this game. Plus Marv wants my naughty nurse pics. That is clearly added value. hahaha | ||
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On November 27 2014 09:08 Sn0_Man wrote: i dont particularly subscribe to the "vote 60 mins into day 1" plan personally explain why my case is bad or you're next | ||
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On November 27 2014 09:11 Sn0_Man wrote: how about u don't put words into my mouth I'm not putting words into your mouth. I have presented you with a good place to put your vote on something that is odd and mafiaish. You have declined to put your vote onto him because of some arbitrary rule set that you live by that doesn't make any sense. Either you vote him because you agree or you tell me why you disagree and don't want to vote him. | ||
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On November 27 2014 09:17 marvellosity wrote: HF, I met someone just like you in the champion of champions game. He had like a zillion more posts than everyone else and flipped mafia ok..? | ||
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you don't want to talk about a good case on jat until he actually talks you don't want to talk about a good case on sn0 because i'm trying to hard you are bad at this game | ||
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One player said the deadlines were PERFECT for him and then didn't turn up when ordinarily he'd be enthusiastic about the game starting and at least post something. Another player literally didn't want to comment on anything I said and has only talked about russia (which is fine on its own) but he was all defensive when I told him to comment on it or he was next | ||
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On November 27 2014 10:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: 1) Meh. Mafia always want to open early anyway since it becomes harder to open the longer the game goes on, so I don't see how you can draw such a definitive conclusion about someone not being here early. At the very least, this is how I would do it, so I don't put much stock into it. 2) Defensiveness isn't really a scumtell when you're threatening to lynch people off of very little. I fail to see how what you said dictates his alignment. not when role pm's get sent out an hour early because that's a whole hour of a mafia pm being left to sink in and so he'd just give up and go to bed early at rolling mafia in this probably stacked game i'm almost positive the first message in the qt is like "we're so fucked" look at your response, i ask you to comment on something you are reluctant but end up doing it anyway look at his response, i ask him to comment on it and he gives a VERY generic "i dont vote on ANYONE EVER early" response and then criticises me and leaves what good natured towny wants to shut down any productive discussion even if it's misplaced? the answer is no good natured towny ever | ||
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On November 27 2014 10:26 marvellosity wrote: btw, HF, nothing wrong at all with being tryhard, doesn't mean you should expect everyone to tryhard the same as you straight away. well I'm going to kick everyone into shape | ||
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On November 27 2014 10:41 geript wrote: Do you think that me/Marv/Rayn/Palmer/Wave are all town? did any of you post how awesome this deadline is and that you only wouldn't be available for it at weekends? | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:00 geript wrote: No my question is valid HF. Do you really think there's a scum team that doesn't include any of those 5? Like there's at least 6 people in this game who are wholly capable of hard carrying as scum. Odds of no vets being mafia, aka scrub scum team, is quite low. idk if shaopi rng's or get balances. Like there are only a handful of people who shit bricks when they roll mafia. Look HF. I'm not saying your point on him not being around considering deadline isn't interesting. My point is the scared shitless argument is crap and you know it. no it's irrelevant because unless all the vets are mafia they will be against some vets and therefore be fucked if i was mafia with marv/me/wave or w/e i would still say fuck this shit as soon as i entered and be super demotivated and i probably would have just gone to bed, heck just look at all the pre-game hype about people wanting to not roll mafia the "we're fucked" thing is totally not the point I am making at all it was just to counter obi's trivial point about jat being motivated to post as mafia when that wouldn't probably be the case at all with pm's an hour+ before deadlines | ||
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On November 27 2014 10:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: How the hell do people play D1? Usually I turtle up and wait for the night. I'm trying to be more active because I have the time, but no idea what do. talk about anything i've written instead of saying how you want to lynch me? | ||
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I don't think you realise it's not a whoosh | ||
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Talk about sn0. | ||
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Talking about the individual aspects raised in my posts rather than my posting style then... | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: There are many individual posts, and most of them are one-linery. I want to lynch you to reduce the number of one-liners I have to read. Your entire 2 page filter is comprised of entirely 1 to 2 liners with absolutely no content since the game has started. | ||
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What is being sarcastic and snide in response to me asking you to do something going to achieve other than me replying with a 1 line remark about how you are doing nothing? The answer is nothing but continuing the thing you hate. It actually makes you quite likely mafia combined with your previous posts. | ||
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On November 27 2014 11:57 WaveofShadow wrote: I shit bricks when I roll mafia and I can carry. WHAT NOW Mental image of this made me giggle. HF you've caught so many mafias so far! Take a break and come play Skullgirls. I've gone to bed! | ||
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The only question that remains is if HF made an awful push to get discussion going as town or if he just wants to seem tryhard and active as scum. You spent all of your time commenting on something that you don't know the motive of instead of commenting on the rest of the game/my posts. That doesn't particularly enthuse me. | ||
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On November 27 2014 19:25 marvellosity wrote: I actually already have 2 people I'd shoot on the spot right now, which is unusual Who are these 2? | ||
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teaching newbies that scum musr refuse to give information, I don't think you should be teaching newbies that | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:00 justanothertownie wrote: Implying you think rayn is town? This was quite obviously a joke.... | ||
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So it was quite irrelevant when we've been talking about you | ||
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It just looks like you wanted to try and do a joke post to fit in | ||
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If you know it's a joke post that response didn't fit in the slightest | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:09 marvellosity wrote: ... but anyone could ask him to just paste the PMs... | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:18 marvellosity wrote: This is a fucking stupid post given you agreed with my argument that the lie wouldn't be purposeful and jat has tried calling rayn out on it at least twice. Cmon hf, pls It's not fucking stupid. He decided to comment on something completely irrelevant and useless before pushing that read which should be confirmed mafia for lying about. | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:24 Holyflare wrote: There's no way anyone decides to put their case on confirmed mafia behind asking someone about their joke post like that. | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:45 GlowingBear wrote: I don't like this post. He makes it sound like snow is mafia for being unfunny, which, obviously, isn't a mafia trait. Snow likes to fuck around, well, that's what he did. If he had little participation, that's also not alignment indicative. Funny thing though is that geript concluded his thoughts saying that snow has a town trait. Which makes geripts post useless. Content less. you did exactly the same thing about my posts?? | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:49 GlowingBear wrote: So you do not agree with me HF? no i like the rest of his posts | ||
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On November 27 2014 20:20 Holyflare wrote: Sn0 has dropped off of the face of the earth it seems which is mildly annoying when he's the center of suspicion. I agree with geripts post largely (although probably not all the conclusions he made like wave/sentinel etc) about Superbia being super meek and asking very limited questions that go nowhere. | ||
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elvis has done nothing but troll around and is completely null geript has pushed people that look bad, which I've liked. The only thing I don't agree with is his wave and especially sentinel read that's about all there is to say about them | ||
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On November 27 2014 22:35 GlowingBear wrote: Well, you're pushing snow, who also was trolly. What is wrong with snow that isn't with Elvis? I've outlined all this in my filter please read. Just to say it ALL OVER AGAIN. Sn0 was trolling which is fine. It means nothing. Then when I bring up a decent enough case to discuss or even have a stance on sn0 decides to shut it all down and say a generic response about how he doesn't vote ANYONE based on the first hour of the game. He doesn't comment on JAT, he doesn't comment on anything he in fact refuses to do either. He doesn't want to take any stance on anything in a game that's about finding mafia. He also got very defensive when all I did was ask him to comment on it. Elvis has just trolled and nothing more. He made one read post when forced and it was useful. | ||
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On November 27 2014 22:38 GlowingBear wrote: I've already explained what's different between my post and geripts... ................................. you want me to say whether it's alignment indicative. If I say your post is wishy washy and you tell me "yeh but geript's is too but what do you think that makes him?" then you are implying that wishy washy means an alignment when it doesn't. I've told you I liked what geript has said so quite clearly being wishy washy means nothing in that context. | ||
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Elvis has just trolled and nothing more. He made one read post when forced and it was useful. but not outside the realm of possible for mafia to do | ||
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On November 27 2014 22:48 GlowingBear wrote: What do you think of WoS? Having this pre game post in mind, I find his play underwhelming too. is there literally anything you are gaining out of all of these asinine questions on players that haven't played the game yet? wave has done nothing | ||
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On November 27 2014 04:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Joke's on you, i'm already demotivated. he already has this post pre-game too | ||
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On November 27 2014 22:52 GlowingBear wrote: Bah. Boring. ##Unvote ##Vote: Superbia what the fuck? | ||
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On November 27 2014 22:53 GlowingBear wrote: I'm planning on making this thread happen. Because it's page 23 and it didn't happen until now. For you to think this then you must think that thread discussion hasn't been happening. So why have you been telling us that Elvis! has been busy destroying discussion all along if you think you're only just "making this thread happen" now??? | ||
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On November 27 2014 23:11 GlowingBear wrote: There was serious discussion going on. Nonetheless, it was a bad one since you can't get someone's alignment from that. The thread has stopped motion and I tried to gather information. What's happening with you HF? You're pushing things that are silly to push since the beginning to the game Like what? The only silly thing was jat because that was intentional at the start of the game. Which is what I do in a LOT of games. I didn't like his response and thought it was actually pretty scummy what he was doing. I'm backing off so he can do w/e the fuck he wants (abd save tunneling forever) I don't care if you like it or not but don't say I'm pushing silly things when you are the one asking me what i think of afkers alignments and then when i actually push something that's weird (you scum reading geript for the same thing you were doing and voting for him and then voting for his main scum read) you completely try and shut down the discussion entirely. If anything you are the weird one | ||
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On November 28 2014 02:11 geript wrote: ##unvite ##vote:waveofshadow You have my sword Marv. That Superbia post just feels bad to me. But wave was ++-? Not that i hate the vote it's pretty likely he's mafia but why was Superbia post bad? It was quite good | ||
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On November 28 2014 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote: You can lynch me for not playing atm, sure, but you and I both know your vote won't be on me at the end of the day regardless. Well that's just not really true if you decide to not play | ||
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Then he picked me out saying i look weird for not pushing anything good even though he's voting on the target i said i agreed with you about -.- -.- -.- -.- sn0 - scummy originally and still scummy done absolutely nothing sentinel - same as above wave - -.- MEH jat.... i dunno i'll probably end up wrong but he hasn't done much to convince me otherwise just chiming in with nothing useful really palmar? this is my shit list | ||
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On November 28 2014 02:44 Sn0_Man wrote: I'm definitely not refusing to participate i just don't have any great insight tell me what you find weird? how can you have absolutely no opinion on anything that has happened? | ||
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On November 28 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote: Wow. So you have your GB read and nothing else and you complain about me having nothing useful. Your shitlist consists of me who is town and literally the 3 guys refusing to participate. Who is the one i say I'm not particularly sure about. Now instead of calling it shit tell me where the hell you disagree | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:05 justanothertownie wrote: 2 questions. 1) If you have completely backed off - why am I on your shitlist? And no you didn't bring a single good reason for that read. Such a thing doesn't even exist. 2) If I "couldn't handle the pressure" how am I able to shut you down? The answer is there is no pressure. It is just you making an awful unsubstantiated read while being annoying/nitpicky about it and me calling you out for it. Being on a list is completely different from continually pressuring you which is what i mean by backing off. It doesn't matter if you think it exists or not. It's what i felt and i fully explained why i felt it. Whether you agree/disagree or I'm right or wrong is irrelevant to what I just said. You are shutting down discussion not shutting down my arguments why is this even a point? | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:31 Sn0_Man wrote: There's no assertion that either of you are town in my statement. Feel free to try re-reading what I said. both of you started this game by being unreasonably rude to me without any particular reason and seem to believe that I'm scum because I had no desire to interact with you at game start when all you wanted to do was be offensive. I don't see how any of that would be alignment indicative but it definitely means that at least one of your reads is bad and based on bullshit. Technically if you were scum you'd have perfect reads, but w/e. If I had particular reason to believe that you are any given alignment that would probably make it into the thread I don't see how I was rude when all i wanted to do was talk about a read in the game and you quite clearly said no and left | ||
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You said nothing of the sort at the start of the game. | ||
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On November 28 2014 06:20 marvellosity wrote: well i think i townread rayn now i also think i townread holyflare and geript i townread obi sentinel might be town for terrible reasons palmar wildcard already my list is shrinking this is the town version of my shit list | ||
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On November 28 2014 07:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Fwiw, I find it hard to believe that Wave, one of the tryhardiest mafiosos on site, would just up and not do anything. Not exactly a solid read, but...There you go. He did "demotivated" as mafia with jat in the game you are salty jat beat you in | ||
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On November 28 2014 07:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Was he actually demotivated, though? I remember most of the accusations on him were centered around him being "robotic" and "calculated." Here it doesn't seem like he gives a shit. it's not exactly hard to do nothing as mafia and he'd be super demotivated if his scum team is afk/doing nothing | ||
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On November 28 2014 07:51 justanothertownie wrote: And why didn't you say that the first time? We could have avoided some stupid shit you know... .... you didn't really want to discuss anything with me at all and still don't even town read me so who cares? | ||
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"he criticised ppl for wishy washy posts and said it was alignment indicative but he did the same thing as them" "he voted his scum reads top mafia suspect" "he said he was making discussion happen but just asked about lurkers and did nothing " " he pushed elvis for ruining discussion but said he was changing the thread so that discussion started " You're actually just copying the points i raised | ||
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Your only real new point is that he used bs meta and refused to respond about what he did being scummy which he did exactly tje same way to me already | ||
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On November 28 2014 09:10 Superbia wrote: Right. I'm not going to lie, I did not really register your points on GB at all. Let me give a quick recap: 1. GB says something regarding my meta, which I recognize as weak and wrong, I make an in-depth push on it. 2. I check out GB's filter and notice the following: - Weak push on Elvis for a bad reason. - Vote do not align correctly with reads (I did notice you pushed on this as well, but I do not recall seeing any follow up). - Cursory reads with no conclusions. - Trying to devalue your case for no good reason. Hence I scum-read him and take up this in my case. My case was rather complete, so it makes sense that it would include points that might've been brought up before. Do you genuinely feel like my points were a complete or partial rehash of your points? What does this say about my alignment? I think you're confusing things here. You asked why i was uninterested and I'm telling you because of smash and you saying things I've already said /agree with | ||
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On November 28 2014 10:34 GlowingBear wrote: Well, I'm not impressed: you've played with a bunch of lol players. If it was dota, on the other hand... You would stick into playing. WoS, your demotivation is starting to sound forced. You discussing with marv isn't taking us nowhere. Can you ignore him for a moment? I'd love to hear your thoughts on HF. I kinda don't know how do I read him Hah wtf | ||
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On November 12 2014 21:44 GlowingBear wrote: Oh, I'm not saying you didn't play well HF. Mafia win was totally deserved. But after this game I think your meta was like... revealed? If you check the obs qt, although everybody had shitty guesses, almost everyone had you as scum. I guessed you as scum just after I died lol. But yeah, very well played On November 12 2014 21:49 GlowingBear wrote: Yes it is. But I posted my guess on him right after I died, so... I think I would be on the right track if I survived I'm probably gonna play one or two mafias and enter an obs spree. Observing is easier to learn because you don't have the pressure of stablishing your innocence. Then I'll return as the supreme mafia player from TL. Be warned. Post game hearthstone. Thought you said i was easy to read gb? Why are you downplaying things so much? | ||
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Thinks Superbia's latest case looks really forced. It didn't. Thinks wave and marv convo is mafia together????? I don't even understand this at all Thinks waves qq looks super forced when it didn't | ||
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On November 28 2014 18:08 justanothertownie wrote: If you think that I haven't given reads this game then you did not read it. It is that simple. Yes please stop making useless posts like this where you halter the discussion all over again and get to actually discussing your scum read on me. | ||
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And if you say "oh but you're still attacking me" that also applies to rayn too | ||
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On November 27 2014 19:18 justanothertownie wrote: For my survival? No. To show that HF is pushing something that isn't alignment indicative as scummy? Yes. I called out 2 specific things that I have trouble seeing HF believe. Do you think that what HF would be afraid of posting as scum? Do you think HF believes that I would be afraid? If the answer to that is no then the whole push is bullshit. The only question that remains is if HF made an awful push to get discussion going as town or if he just wants to seem tryhard and active as scum. Hey look you destroyed your entire case for yourself | ||
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On November 28 2014 18:27 justanothertownie wrote: There is nothing like this in that post but nice try. I just quoted the exact place where you said this | ||
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You are talking about your first post. That is pretty obvious. You say your case is your first post, you then have a post that relates to your case that says it's not alignment indicative. There's nothing more open and shut than that and you know it. I don't have anything to say about rayn other than I like his reads on elvis/meta and you | ||
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On November 28 2014 18:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno hf. Are you trying to convince jat he is mafia? I think everyone gets what you are saying so there is really no need to repeat it. Could you look into elvis/damdred and tell me what you think? Also do you think gb is mafia? I'm at a crossroads with gb where I think everything he is posting is genuinely bad and I think he IS mafia but then I'm reminded of the past few games where I think the exact same things and he's town. I'd lean much more mafia ready than usual though, especially with the people I'm town reading now. | ||
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On November 28 2014 20:30 justanothertownie wrote: Theoretically. I didn't even really have the time to argue with HF and shouldn't have done so but he is just annoying me too much. I will give you an opinion on Damdred/GB once I reread them which will be later. I don't remember anything about them despite GB accusing Superbia for being a big wall poster which was bad and people pointing out that Elvis played differently than he did in his recent towngames which I agree was the case. This is bull shit because all I quite clearly asked for was for you to elaborate your read on me and you decided not to and it took 2 pages for you to say look at page 1 | ||
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6. Sn0_Man 8. Elvis! replaced by Damdred Day 1 9. GlowingBear 10. [UoN]Sentinel 12. Palmar Currently I think we should lynch into this list. I will try to narrow it down in the next hours and will also take suggestions of who to take out or put back in.[/QUOTE[QUOTE]On November 28 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote: [QUOTE]On November 28 2014 02:43 Holyflare wrote: I dunno, really dislike GB this game because all he did was ask me useless questions and say he's getting the game in shape while saying it was already in shape with discussion and then the thing with you/superbia... just meh Then he picked me out saying i look weird for not pushing anything good even though he's voting on the target i said i agreed with you about -.- -.- -.- -.- sn0 - scummy originally and still scummy done absolutely nothing sentinel - same as above wave - -.- MEH jat.... i dunno i'll probably end up wrong but he hasn't done much to convince me otherwise just chiming in with nothing useful really palmar? this is my shit list[/QUOTE] Wow. So you have your GB read and nothing else and you complain about me having nothing useful. Your shitlist consists of me who is town and literally the 3 guys refusing to participate.[/QUOTE] The circle of life | ||
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On November 29 2014 01:36 justanothertownie wrote: 6. Sn0_Man 8. Elvis! replaced by Damdred Day 1 9. GlowingBear 10. [UoN]Sentinel 12. Palmar Currently I think we should lynch into this list. I will try to narrow it down in the next hours and will also take suggestions of who to take out or put back in. On November 28 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote: Wow. So you have your GB read and nothing else and you complain about me having nothing useful. Your shitlist consists of me who is town and literally the 3 guys refusing to participate. The circle of life | ||
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On November 29 2014 01:57 GlowingBear wrote: Marv, I've just got to work. Won't be too active. Btw I'd rather lynch the scummy lurker rather than you day1. The case stays there, though. Answering your question, yes, you're very capable. But that's the problem marv. You're so capable of finding scum that, if you keep mislynching, you'll be lynched in later days. It's exactly how it happens with hapa. The better option is to not compromise yourself, which I believe it's what you're doing. So you're ditching everything to see if he finds mafia??? Wut | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:23 geript wrote: HF what's your read on Damdred. Honestly? I'm not really sure I have a read on him right now other than him seeming incredibly tunnelled on 2 people. If anything it's pretty odd that he called gb town for his case when most people thought the opposite seeing as gb was 1 of only like 2 people he focused on and he didn't even question him. | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:52 WaveofShadow wrote: Who is on your computer HF? This is an interesting development lol My gf is playing isaac | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Well I just called your gf a shitter then. And you're not lying down, don't lie to your gf. I'm lying in bed on my phone right next to her? | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:56 justanothertownie wrote: You mean I am scummy for going after your scumread? I don't see how this is relevant. Of course you can be. | ||
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It's entirely not alignment indicative but you've reached the whole conclusion that the lynch would be garbage despite him doing all the scum tactics under the sun (excuses, no real content bla bla. Why is he even celebrating thanksgiving in iceland lol?) It seems a bit tmiish to me | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:20 Damdred wrote: Struggles with getting across complex ideas and generally looks meh doing it at times which is generally towny of GB. Does what he promises instead of excuses and foes after a hard target in Marv instead of an easy target he could of picked. Seems to believe everything he says. Can you outline specific examples from memory and fit them into what you just said? | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:48 geript wrote: HF what's your read on Damdred. I already explained it before? Unless you want the updated version which doesn't exist because i still dunno :p | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:59 justanothertownie wrote: If me and Palmar are still your biggest scumreads you basically have to be scum. You still haven't done anything towny imo. You just reply to things and call things bad. You went on a tiny spree of filter dives which was weird and looked forced because if it was me I'd be all up in that shit based on memory. You are so off this game. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:06 justanothertownie wrote: If you think from your perspective that scum JAT who was busy for most of day1 has a bigger filter then town HF and picks fights with almost every player in the game except for marv then you are insane. I haven't even been playing actively and it's irrelevant because your posts don't say anything. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote: You can't possibly have a read on Palmar. You are still wrong about me and not evaluating even though I have been extremely active and towny in the last hours. It is looking pretty bad for you. You haven't at all. You've literally done absolutely nothing. I never said I had a scum read on palmar either, I was asked who I wanted to lynch. I'm not looking bad for doing anything. You already think i look bad/scummy so saying it's looking bad for me just means you didn't think that originally. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:32 justanothertownie wrote: No you fucking didn't. You incorporated nothing at all since you claim that I did nothing which is absolutely ridiculous. Just die. Doesn't change what I think in the slightest. If I'm town and thinking this then maybe you've gone wrong somewhere. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:34 Holyflare wrote: I'm content for a very good reason | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:49 Damdred wrote: Not sure, it might be a tonal thing but the way he's pushing wave feels more like picking a fight rather than scum hunting. This isn't true in the slightest. Rayn is trying to get wave to elaborate on waves on read but wave os refusing pretty much | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:12 marvellosity wrote: HF - what do you think of rayn's stuff on WoS? I have an odd feeling about wos and I'd need rayn to spell it out for me really because i haven't been paying too much attention to that affair | ||
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To someone looking into the ffl2 game if you just read rayns filter i assume it doesn't look that bad, it's only if you were in the game do you realise how little he cared. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:47 marvellosity wrote: not true, i literally replaced into that game n1 and my comment on rayn was "your filter looks terrible" Yes but you were in that game and cared about looking at filters. Wave was just thrown a comparison and quickly skimmed over it. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Then why does he not take account my towngames? I pointed out a towngame i did not care. He was just told to look at one game? | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I wanna vote for html. useless too | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:41 Holyflare wrote: yeh it looked towny enough to move to sentinel ##unvote ##vote sentinel maybe not actually his filter has more stuff than i remembered ##unvote | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:47 marvellosity wrote: GB over, say, Sn0, HF? honestly i have no idea and the gb defending damd and damd defending gb is just too weird | ||
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is completely different from what he just said being "i have a tell on you" | ||
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On November 29 2014 08:04 marvellosity wrote: should've lynched damdred fuck only if he's mafia is this relevant | ||
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Either you're town and you're informing mafia or you're mafia and still informing mafia | ||
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On November 30 2014 02:16 justanothertownie wrote: lol, superbia confirmed unable to use qt Yes keep pointing out absolutely nothing. What benefit does that have to town to call out? Absolutely 0 | ||
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On November 30 2014 02:18 justanothertownie wrote: Because noone believes your claim. Maybe you are a scumvig but you certainly aren't a town one. Which still can't shoot till n2???? ? ??? | ||
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On November 30 2014 02:18 Superbia wrote: But if I was mafia I would already be informed! I can't fucking inform myself. By saying "you've informed mafia" you are literally saying I am town. Hey look. Sometimes i type whatever comes out of mind. When someone does something as stupid as saying a claim can't happen AT NIGHT when mafia are deciding their actions then I can deem that person stupid. Just because I said informed mafia doesn't mean I imply you are town. It just means I think you are stupid for doing it and habe ruined anything I was doing. | ||
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And B) saying you informed mafia instead of just calling you stupid means that i don't actually know whether you are mafia or not because if i was mafia i wouldn't tell you that you informed my own team Wow I'm super confirmed now ty! | ||
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On November 30 2014 09:27 marvellosity wrote: "finally allowed"? kinky. Yeh it really was | ||
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On November 30 2014 09:35 marvellosity wrote: seems a bit weird you'd track anyone else tbh. I was thinking the same thing to myself | ||
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On November 30 2014 09:42 geript wrote: @HF. Who did the person visit? If i say this the persn will know and can preparyfake claims. I'll just aay both names eventually | ||
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I also said i was ot geript so posted it as soon as i read | ||
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On November 30 2014 10:03 Holyflare wrote: Actually it probably works best if everyone in the game lists their top 2 town so i have a rough idea | ||
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On November 28 2014 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is what i originally wrote about him in the Campus game: Applies here. this probably means superbia is like confirmed town though, the super sure meta rule and all | ||
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On December 01 2014 03:34 justanothertownie wrote: I wonder why... get over yourself | ||
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I have, there isn't anything like that meta for damdred just a lazy "follow koshi meta"? | ||
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obi sentinel (he talks to him once or twice and nothing more, looks fluffy) geript (actually at all, he asks "what you think of geript" etc and defends a post against sentinel but never really comments on him) likely a mafia in there ^^ | ||
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On December 01 2014 03:54 Damdred wrote: Meh then Ryan calls me town I think at the end. so? | ||
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dude stfu i'm an un cc'd tracker who can literally prove where either a blue or a red went in the night so just drop it and go qq in your corner that you were wrong all game | ||
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there's literally no reason for me to claim tracker unless it was real here, get over it | ||
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On December 01 2014 04:06 justanothertownie wrote: Then you should shut up about it. YOU are the one that keeps scum reading me when i'm a blue | ||
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On November 30 2014 09:39 justanothertownie wrote: Very helpful. If you think this crap saves you then you are wrong. On November 30 2014 09:42 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, IF he can prove anything which I heavily doubt at the moment. On November 30 2014 09:47 justanothertownie wrote: Why would HF even out this saying he knows a mafia if the only possibility that the person he tracked is mafia is if he is the roleblocker which is - as was mentioned earlier - pretty unlikely given the fact that marv claimed rb. On November 30 2014 09:47 justanothertownie wrote: While there are several possibilities for the tracked person being a blue role... On November 30 2014 09:53 justanothertownie wrote: Oh, there could also be a rolecop. Hm.,, Still not very believable that you would think "this person is obviously mafia!" after tracking someone like that. On November 30 2014 11:00 justanothertownie wrote: Nothing to do with math since you can't be sure about this blue or red read. Putting Sn0 as top 2 town there is extremely weird. But you might actually believe this ridiculous stuff. I mean you also believe you can read HF. your collection of fuckery where you literally just harp on about me being mafia because you can't handle the alternative | ||
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a) no tracker in this game at all b) that we'd blue snipe every single day so that we could put the rb on me or the person we shoot both of those are retarded | ||
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On December 01 2014 04:14 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, because I am supposed to believe without a doubt when a person that has been extremely scummy all game claims something. Anyways you didn't answer the question. The answer is I never said anything like that and you completely made that up. i was drunk and someone said it, i thought because it was douchey and didn't make sense that you said it sue me | ||
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On December 01 2014 04:16 justanothertownie wrote: I can say that because it is true. I already mentioned that you and rayn ignored each other basically the whole game. because i thought he was town | ||
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On December 01 2014 04:16 justanothertownie wrote: I can say that because it is true. I already mentioned that you and rayn ignored each other basically the whole game. well it's not true so what you're doing is being an asshole for no reason how about just leaving the thread for a while so i can actually play and solve this game now run along and be a good boy now | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467273-2p2-vanilla-werewolf-13er?user=ObiWanShinobi it's full of non-committal crap and doesn't actually have a proper read on anything, in fact, he disagreed with marv's town read on me and then later on said "i don't see why you have a problem with hf" later on, he also off the cuff mentioned not reading rayn at all and disagreeing with marv's read on him on that basis which is super random to add in and doesn't really make him mafia but is interesting to note complained about the lynch on gb too and keeps going back to afking and doing nothing | ||
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On November 28 2014 10:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't actually even think the meta things were scummy; I think they were just mistakes. I seriously doubt a scum Hf would try to push things from those games because I was paying close attention to both of them. Hell, maybe what he said is actually correct and I'm just being a dumbass. It's the demotivation thing that bugs me. On September 26 2014 21:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467273-2p2-vanilla-werewolf-13er?page=8#158 That's the vibe I got from this post. Looking at it again, I wouldn't say that misrepresentation is the correct word. The thing I'm worried about is you always push people based on "meta" that generally falls apart upon close inspection when you're mafia. I don't see much of a difference between this post and the multitude of posts you normally make when you're mafia, sans quotes. but then looking at the difference between these 2 quotes (the first is this game and the second is when he was mafia in werewolf) maybe i'm wrong =/ | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:20 Sn0_Man wrote: ? i'm literally sheeping marv cuz i dont know who scum is that doesn't mean that I can't assist town by reminding them that they are being retarded and maybe we might win if they try being less retarded this is what he's also posted after saying damdred is scum the entire game | ||
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On December 01 2014 06:22 Damdred wrote: Also questioning my top town on geript. For that weird town read on Sno why aren't i your top town as an un cc'd blue? | ||
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On December 01 2014 06:36 marvellosity wrote: HF, you could tell us who you tracked whoever it was to, can't you? does that reveal anything to maf? urgh well if the persons mafia it kinda fucks things up a bit but i tracked the person to jat | ||
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On December 01 2014 06:39 marvellosity wrote: seems likely there's a mafia rber just because there always is, so unless mafia have 3 power-roles you'd imagine it quite unlikely whoever you tracked was a mafia i don't think that's true at all it could be a jk on you and a rolecop on jat | ||
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On December 01 2014 05:51 Holyflare wrote: reading through obi's posts i'm actually starting to feel more inclined that he might be mafia, it's starting to be eerily similar to his mafia game in werewolf: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467273-2p2-vanilla-werewolf-13er?user=ObiWanShinobi it's full of non-committal crap and doesn't actually have a proper read on anything, in fact, he disagreed with marv's town read on me and then later on said "i don't see why you have a problem with hf" later on, he also off the cuff mentioned not reading rayn at all and disagreeing with marv's read on him on that basis which is super random to add in and doesn't really make him mafia but is interesting to note complained about the lynch on gb too and keeps going back to afking and doing nothing i literally already said this superbia -.- | ||
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On December 01 2014 08:29 Damdred wrote: If I'm so scrum then there gas to be some interactions or lack thereof with my mate's look for the other scrum don't waste the day yes you and sn0 | ||
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On December 01 2014 08:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Oh. Okay. Well you claimed tracker and you said that there's probably a mafia in the people rayn didn't interact with. Okay. Those are things. So...What? *clap clap* how is me being html related to this at all? also you are being incredibly underwhelming and very like your werewolf game and it's giving me the mafia feels | ||
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On December 01 2014 08:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Was responding to what Damdred said. I still don't know what his angle is by bringing it up. you are telling him to do things when he's already said he is busy till tomorrow he is telling you to stop criticising him of doing nothing when you are also doing nothing and should be doing something because if damd is mafia you should be finding other mafia | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I hate how people use the lurking thing to justify understanding my underdeveloped scum meta, especially when I was working irl for most of that game. | ||
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I literally do not understand how you can interpret that in any other way????? | ||
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On December 01 2014 09:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Does anyone even have a good reason to townread Superbia? I remember marv/Jat coming up with meta reasons to call him town, but I couldn't necessarily say I agreed with them. He's this really weird entity I don't really know how to approach anymore. but he's somehow mafia and you voted for him? | ||
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On December 01 2014 09:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I wish I had a gun so I could shoot you. you could always ask to send in your kp so your dreams can come true | ||
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On December 01 2014 13:05 Damdred wrote: This is silly, and if I flip town? "if" | ||
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Damdred's push for reads and his desire to keep discussion off of himself since his lynch is basically a done deal is a start, at the very least. There's some other nice stuff in his filter, like trying to calm the thread down when everybody was fighting. I looked into why we're killing him, and...Eh. I've never been a fan of associative reads. Ever. For what it's worth, the last time Damdred was scum and got totally fucking boned like he supposedly is now, he made a case on his remaining partner out of nowhere to try and save himself. Here, it's more like he's grasping at whatever he can get his hands on and desperately trying to move the thread forward. Does it mean anything? I honestly don't know. I've played with rayn as mafia once and he got vigi'd out of nowhere on night 1; I can't say I know rayn's meta enough to say "this is exactly what he would do." At the same time, I don't really see a reason to vote anyone else at this stage. I accept the fact that I might be getting AtE'd here and suckered into not voting him since Damdred is sort of adorable and whatnot, but I might need a bit of a push to join this wagon. I just don't feel confident on him either way, so I want to see him play today out. (Though if he doesn't step up, my vote is going to default to him just because I won't have the time to bail him out if he insists on not being super useful.) so what you're saying is that it's nice that damd is trying to push the thread forward and you liked a lot of his filter where he tried to calm the thread down and you looked into why we want to lynch him and you don't like it and that his play now is totally different to how he played mafia but.... you want to lynch him!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? The difference between the red (you wanting to lynch him) and the green (all the reasons why he is town) is astonishing. I'm quite happy to vote you tbh. | ||
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On December 01 2014 14:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Did you deliberately ignore the part where I wanted him to play more so I could solidify my read on him or did you just ignore that so you could vote me? i didn't ignore anything you wrote 3 paragraphs to say you want to vote for someone who is playing towny in your eyes and that you "need some pushing onto", what the crapola is that? you have superbia who you've scum leaned on all day 1 who somehow became a slight town lean and then palmar and sentinel who have done nothing for you but you'd still rather vote for damd over them and you can't see your vote being anywhere else looooool | ||
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On December 01 2014 15:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I called Palmar out and you jackasses said that it was scummy because I was supposedly not doing anything either. Now I do something and FUCK HE'S NOT CALLING PALMAR OUT. I'm not even voting Damdred right now. I said if he doesn't pick his play up and look more town, then I'd vote him. Is my vote on him now? Is my read on him solid? It isn't, and it's not, so saying that I'm just going to up and fucking lynch Damdred because I think he could be townie at the end of the day is literally stupid. it's literally what you said though (Though if he doesn't step up, my vote is going to default to him just because I won't have the time to bail him out if he insists on not being super useful. all of your reasons point to him being TOWN so why does he need to "step up" when there's far far far scummier people that you should be wanting to lynch over him??? Why isn't it "damdred is the leading lynch and he's done all these cool things which point to towny damdred but everyone is afk voting damdred something is up!!!!!" | ||
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On December 01 2014 19:58 Palmar wrote: HF being full of shit doesn't really make him mafia. It just makes him HF. it would make me mafia because i've gone to deep for it to be any kind of town fake claim | ||
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On December 02 2014 03:15 geript wrote: Sn0 looks absolutely nothing like his town games. Town Neat and TIdy Hogwarts I'm a Cop Witchcraft Mafia SMB Here's the glaring differences I've seen from his town play: As town he's not a complete asshat and seems to actually enjoy himself As town he's actually makes comments and tries to be helpful regardless of blue/green As town he wants to win but fears looking dumb more than losing As mafia, he's a whiny asshole who trieds to add as little to the thread as humanly possible. that one mafia game you linked looks nothing like this game at all he's far more agreeable/passive | ||
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On December 02 2014 04:33 geript wrote: Yes, I'll be clear. That shit is sketch. But why are you not considering his meta whatsoever? No offense Obi, but HF he's not a great player. He'll do scummy shit. I can go back and look to see how many times he's been mislynched if that helps. I just seem him at best as the #3 best lynch for today at best. I've literally told you your meta read on obi was shit and he's never made posts like that as town. | ||
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On December 02 2014 02:49 geript wrote: HF, IDK about Obi's meta. The differences that I'm seeing from Obi's meta are: 1) As town he tends to give out more ideas 2) As town, he tends to play to have fun and enjoy himself which tends to level out later in the game; + townpoints 3) As town his vote tends to bounce around a bunch; + scumpoints 4) His post length is slightly more one-linery as town but that seems to change game to game I don't think there's a good meta reason to be voting him over Damdred. 1) he has given out absolutely no ideas this game 2) he doesn't look like he's enjoying himself at all, in fact quite the opposite, he's aggravated at legitimate points and then goes back to afk when under pressure to return and do nothing when the lynch is on damdred EVEN THOUGH HE SAID DAMDRED LOOKS MORE TOWNY NOW AND HE'D DEFEND HIM IF HE DID 3) hasn't happened this game 4) it's almost exclusively 1 liners as town, never have I really seen him go wall of text wishy washy reads like this game so it's not exactly a shit meta read, it's just you've applied it really badly to this game | ||
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On December 02 2014 04:43 Damdred wrote: I'm really trying not to suck the tunnel is pretty great here though. Me rayn sno/sent can't be mafia together I think even using my bus tendencies why do you "think"...? it's literally impossible because you are "town"?? | ||
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On December 02 2014 05:00 Sn0_Man wrote: i'll give you obi's playing like a retard but that certainly doesn't make him scum. I've seen lots of townies "revenge-vote" people who are pissing them off and convince themselves that that person is scum even when they know that person isn't actually. Damdred replaced a super-scummy player, continued to play gross, and got chainsaw defended very hard by flipped scum. Open and shut. You said he was very likely scum?????? Also elvis wasn't particularly that scummy and he didn't get chainsaw defended by scum yesterday when you scum read him all day. | ||
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On December 02 2014 05:10 geript wrote: You don't look for one specific thing when you meta. You look at the trend. What are the persons tendencies. And no, I'm not going to go back and look at that meta again. Proving things works both ways HF; you've said X, Y and Z about Obi. I just finished reading a bunch of pages about him. We disagree about a read; it won't be the first time and it won't be the last. Is my read strong enough that I'd stake my mafia career on it and never play again if I'm wrong? No (besides that would be against the rules). From what I recall, he's been wishy-washy before; I think I saw points of it in both his town and mafia play. I also know that generally what happens is that people forget about or drop good townreads they had early on. Marv had a decent townread on Obi early, Palmer did too. I don't remember where you were at on him. I just don't see a reason to lynch a guy because he said one super scummy scummy thing especially when half the fucking game has said something equally if not more scummy than him. this whole paragraph is useless and poses nothing to the game when I just took the meta that you made for obi by reading his past games and applied it to this game you shouldn't be reading him anything other than mafia he has literally only been town read for the first like 2 hours of the game AND THEN AFK'D THE ENTIRE GAME, you're saying "oh these people town read him!" who gives a crap? how is that relevant? it's not ONE scummy thing at all, it's a multitude of scummy things culminating in one scummy pile you can't just say that you disagree without stating WHAT you disagree on On December 02 2014 04:44 Holyflare wrote: 1) he has given out absolutely no ideas this game 2) he doesn't look like he's enjoying himself at all, in fact quite the opposite, he's aggravated at legitimate points and then goes back to afk when under pressure to return and do nothing when the lynch is on damdred EVEN THOUGH HE SAID DAMDRED LOOKS MORE TOWNY NOW AND HE'D DEFEND HIM IF HE DID 3) hasn't happened this game 4) it's almost exclusively 1 liners as town, never have I really seen him go wall of text wishy washy reads like this game so it's not exactly a shit meta read, it's just you've applied it really badly to this game | ||
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Anyway, his just general lack of giving a shit and then when he gets pressured instead of his USUAL oh i aint a part of your shenanigans shit! like he usually is it's all apologetic/roll overy/submissive, he has extremely unusual reactions to things that he shouldn't On December 01 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Okay, I can see where you're coming from. Give me a minute. ^ never in my life would i expect a post like that from obi when i'm calling him out for something and when I actually do say this isn't right and how i'd expect him to respond and tell him what I was expecting it's only THEN that he does it when I call something else out: On December 01 2014 15:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote: ##vote holyflare Nah. You can get lynched. If you're just going to act like an idiot and nitpick at my posts then I'm just going to vote you and leave. I've explained my thought processes and you're just like "no, lol." Gtfo. and this reaction is totally unwarranted when it wasn't just me that was interested in this question | ||
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##vote damdred | ||
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if you think damd is mafia then they'd have to be on him...? not like they can push anyone else today | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:10 Superbia wrote: Why are you only interested in the game when you're about to get lynched? he's posted his reads this cycle before so i don't think it;s right to say he wasn't interested | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:43 marvellosity wrote: Ok ##unvote ##vote sn0 My deepest respects to people who play and vote on phones 24/7 bro | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:53 geript wrote: He claims targeting Marv. Marv was Rb'd. HF claimed a track to JAT. JAT hasn't claimed RB. Track + any cop role = OP in a mini. Period. JAT has seemingly denied mason. Doc x2 = broken. Unless we assume one of HF/Sn0 is lying then things don't add up for a mini setup whatsoever. there's watcher, parity, visiting miller | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:55 Palmar wrote: Hard counterclaim for doc, I am jailkeeper. who did you visit? | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:59 marvellosity wrote: Unvote Vote sno aren't you the one that said mafia always have a rber in this setup 10/10 times!? | ||
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marv says that there is a rb 10/10 times in this setup but wants to lynch off the doctor and not the jk cc wut | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:05 Palmar wrote: This is just not true, I said on day 1 that marv was probably town and we should trust his read no matter his alignment? ? tis true what you are saying the latter half is still correct | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:10 Holyflare wrote: should i just reveal my check now? | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:15 Sn0_Man wrote: as I said immediately pre lynch (when I actually thought marv had hammered me) I don't even think me flipping doc makes palmar scum. In fact, there's virtually no world where he's scum anymore as far as I'm concerned. REALLY........................................???? 2 doctors? are you being serious? | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:18 justanothertownie wrote: HF could of course also be fake :/ well i was at least trying to push the lynches in directions that weren't damdred today | ||
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the person i tracked is either a watcher a parity or a mafia if he's a parity he already has a green check most likely on jat so he just checks someone mafiaish if he's a watcher he visits ME because i'm not being protected and have an info role and am most likely to die or get rb'd by mafia if he's mafia he's going to die anyway to a claim war tomorrow | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:51 Superbia wrote: The: - Palmar RB sn0. - Sn0 heals you. Plan? yes | ||
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On December 02 2014 09:00 Holyflare wrote: i think it's probably parity/tracker/jk vs vig/goon(gf)/framer or some other mafia variant think this is most likely, really not sure they do actually have a rber | ||
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really really convenient | ||
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all you have done is afk and want to not lynch the people that should be scummiest to you | ||
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waaaaaaa waaaaaa that's all I hear tbh I'm going to push that you wanted to be convinced to vote your town read all game because either you're mafia and that was the biggest mafia post of all time or you are just really terrible at this game <3 | ||
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everything you wrote should make you far far far far more certain than you are saying you are | ||
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i'm not blaming anyone for voting damd, I just didn't really care enough to stop it which is as simple as that like you have superbia who you literally have NO self opinion of other than "i dunno how to read him" even though you said you were reading him scummy previously (the only reason he's town to us is, yet again, association) and palmar who you said had done nothing you have no actual content based posts OTHER than damd which was a fully fleshed out town read to anybody that wasn't you | ||
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me, jat, damd we all said it we all wanted you to explain it, we all thought it looked weird yet for some reason lalalalalala obiwanshinobi doesn't know wtf anyone is talking about if I came into the thread and said marv normally posts far less as mafia, it's pretty different here when he has 20+ pages day 1! he also is looking at interactions and finding things out compared to when he's mafia in this other game! i dunno though people said that this flipped mafia guy didn't really push him properly so maybe they are right over all this information that I KNOW from past experience to be true! HMMMM if he doesn't really post anymore even though everything from past experience says he's completely different from mafia marv i'll just default lynch him even though I think that guy superbia was scummy day 1 i dunno... maybe i'll just forget that and in fact when i look at what my town reads say i think i'll sheep them but not really sheep them and call the guy a town leaaaaan instead because... i dunno because they said so!!! that guy palmar has done 0 things since the game has started! yeh that's normally what mafia do when one of there team gets modkilled, they just give up and don't play! hmmmmm nop I think that marv guy should be the lynch if it all comes down to it! but what the fuck someone called me out on my infallible logic AND HES A BLUE I'LL THROW MY VOTE ON THAT GUY even though nobody will ever follow me and it will be wasted because quite frankly nobody will ever vote him when he's an un cc'd blue! do you think that looks normal to anyone at all? | ||
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also cz you normally bad reads yo | ||
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your town read got lynched you voted a blue your scum read on palmar is on someone who is blue 0 mafia is cool? | ||
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On December 03 2014 00:49 Sn0_Man wrote: Tell you what I heal u u track me to u u live we gucci it's very likely mafia have a rber so no | ||
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On December 03 2014 00:59 Sn0_Man wrote: While I don't disagree that there's a good chance maf have a roleblocker (especially vs JK/Doc/Tracker), that would mean that marv ate a doc save, a JK action and a mafia rb all in the same night. Although I suppose if I was scum I can pretty safely claim roleblocked so ur right it doesn't make a ton of sense. I just want to prove i'm the doc there are not 2 doctors | ||
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lol i sheeped the wrong colour :D | ||
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what's obvious is that there is absolutely 0 chance there's 2 protective town roles | ||
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tracking superbia again n2 | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:20 Superbia wrote: Just save your real claim for 15s before EoN, HF. I understand that you want to confuse mafai, but rly. it's a resolution period now they can't chance actions | ||
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if superbia claims being roleblocked lynch him, pretty straightforward | ||
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if you claim rb you are mafia | ||
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lolollololol if he's doctor then his save won't go through and he won't visit anyone at all if he's any kind of mafia role at all then he'll be visiting palmar | ||
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dead dead dead dead dead | ||
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maybe if you realised that 2 medics in 1 game was never going to happen and didn't blindly accept him as a jk as well as you being medic I would have felt differently | ||
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and that was superbia sentinel just afk'd to victory! | ||
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On December 04 2014 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: so apparently everyone else knows it other than me. why? because we talk to each other? :o | ||
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On December 04 2014 09:05 Fecalfeast wrote: It commemorates the gracious transfer of the ownership of the entirety of north america from the natives to the europeans. no it's not it's juts giving thanks to a good harvest | ||
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