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Holyflare
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November 24 2014 10:36 GMT
#4
/in
Holyflare
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November 24 2014 17:30 GMT
#14
:D :D :D
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November 24 2014 19:09 GMT
#36
On November 25 2014 03:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Am very disappoint.

You're taking all the fun/satisfaction out of me catching you.


ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


[image loading]
Holyflare
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November 24 2014 19:14 GMT
#41
use more lube
then some more lube
and then even more lube
Holyflare
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November 24 2014 19:16 GMT
#43
buttsex
Holyflare
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November 24 2014 20:32 GMT
#47
just limit the amount of time you spend in a day with an alarm?
Holyflare
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November 25 2014 11:32 GMT
#58
On November 25 2014 14:58 Alakaslam wrote:
He comes

You summoned him with the speaking of butthijole

Speaking of which HF if you isn't alreAdy on OMGUS you should be

/replace


I stay away to stop dp being more butt hurt
Holyflare
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November 25 2014 11:39 GMT
#60
yes
Holyflare
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November 25 2014 16:13 GMT
#70
have plenty of lube ready
Holyflare
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November 25 2014 16:47 GMT
#77
On November 26 2014 01:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Rayn, marv, and WoS in one game?

Looks like I'm going to have to do a lot of reading


not even include me /hate
Holyflare
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November 25 2014 17:23 GMT
#81
On November 26 2014 01:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 01:47 Holyflare wrote:
On November 26 2014 01:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Rayn, marv, and WoS in one game?

Looks like I'm going to have to do a lot of reading


not even include me /hate

You haven't been that much trouble for me yet. Unlike rayn's 45 page filter in I Titanic


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?user=Holyflare

like my fantasy football one?
Holyflare
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November 25 2014 17:28 GMT
#83
Holyflare
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November 26 2014 10:56 GMT
#110
Neverrr
Holyflare
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November 26 2014 11:00 GMT
#112
killing you if no scum have died just means people don't know how to play the actual game :p
Holyflare
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November 26 2014 11:00 GMT
#113
Apart from maybe mafia
Holyflare
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November 26 2014 14:43 GMT
#120
disclaimer: smash bros release so might ditch you all eventually
Holyflare
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November 26 2014 15:13 GMT
#123
if i'm town you can disregard my previous statement and i'll be around









#mafiawifomplays
Holyflare
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November 26 2014 19:01 GMT
#128
I think the people that roll mafia will be pretty demotivated in this game. Ezpz game
Holyflare
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November 26 2014 21:51 GMT
#141
just got home!

/hype
Holyflare
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November 26 2014 23:24 GMT
#161
the relief is glorious
Holyflare
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November 26 2014 23:44 GMT
#170
On November 27 2014 08:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lol as if I play that anymore.
##vote Holyflare


uh huh
Holyflare
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November 26 2014 23:46 GMT
#172
i won't ever stop
Holyflare
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November 26 2014 23:47 GMT
#173
##vote Justanothertownie

easy first mafia though
Holyflare
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November 26 2014 23:51 GMT
#175
On November 26 2014 23:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Disclaimer: I won't be able to be as active as I was in FFL 2 which was ridiculous. I am currently working fulltime and all I had to do while that game happened was studying at home. The deadline is generally really really nice but I might miss it during the weekend.



only time he can't make deadlines are weekends deadline is really really nice


where is jat? answer is mafialand qqing that he rolled mafia in here with a full time job
Holyflare
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November 26 2014 23:56 GMT
#179
more people should be on jat, my case is ironclad
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 00:06 GMT
#188
On November 27 2014 09:04 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 08:59 Superbia wrote:
On November 27 2014 08:53 geript wrote:
On November 27 2014 08:50 Superbia wrote:
On November 27 2014 08:43 geript wrote:
IDK maybe? You roll town?


Always.

But you haven't always rolled town. How could you think I've rolled anything but town?


You seemed like you had something to prove within the first 5m of the game. What's up with that?

I'm the second best player in this game. Why wouldn't I have something to prove. Plus all the vets except Palmer I have great reads on. That makes me the most important town player in this game. Plus Marv wants my naughty nurse pics. That is clearly added value.


hahaha
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 00:07 GMT
#189
everyone should be voting jat or telling me why they aren't voting

chop chop
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 00:09 GMT
#191
On November 27 2014 09:08 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 09:07 Holyflare wrote:
everyone should be voting jat or telling me why they aren't voting

chop chop

i dont particularly subscribe to the "vote 60 mins into day 1" plan personally


explain why my case is bad or you're next
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 00:17 GMT
#196
On November 27 2014 09:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2014 09:08 Sn0_Man wrote:
On November 27 2014 09:07 Holyflare wrote:
everyone should be voting jat or telling me why they aren't voting

chop chop

i dont particularly subscribe to the "vote 60 mins into day 1" plan personally

explain why my case is bad or you're next

how about u don't put words into my mouth


I'm not putting words into your mouth. I have presented you with a good place to put your vote on something that is odd and mafiaish. You have declined to put your vote onto him because of some arbitrary rule set that you live by that doesn't make any sense.

Either you vote him because you agree or you tell me why you disagree and don't want to vote him.
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 00:28 GMT
#201
On November 27 2014 09:17 marvellosity wrote:
HF, I met someone just like you in the champion of champions game. He had like a zillion more posts than everyone else and flipped mafia



ok..?
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 01:06 GMT
#205
distinct lack of voting for jat right now
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 01:09 GMT
#207
he's already scumming up the thread by having not posted at all
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 01:09 GMT
#208
+ it would be funny if he woke up and had everyone voting him
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 01:11 GMT
#209
honestly though if it's not jat I would be voting sn0 right now for just talking about russia and then declining to do anything productive whatsoever and not even talk about jat
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 01:14 GMT
#211
i do not care
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 01:15 GMT
#212
when you want to return with something productive be my guest
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 01:15 GMT
#214
have great cases on 2 potential mafia right now so stop twiddling your thumbs and talk about them
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 01:17 GMT
#215
On November 27 2014 10:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 10:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
You're trying too hard bbygrl



you don't want to talk about a good case on jat until he actually talks
you don't want to talk about a good case on sn0 because i'm trying to hard


you are bad at this game
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 01:20 GMT
#217
how do I not have a case on either?

One player said the deadlines were PERFECT for him and then didn't turn up when ordinarily he'd be enthusiastic about the game starting and at least post something.

Another player literally didn't want to comment on anything I said and has only talked about russia (which is fine on its own) but he was all defensive when I told him to comment on it or he was next
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 01:22 GMT
#218
Does trying to hard make me town or mafia? No it does not. I'm here trying to play the game while you squander away your time posting in this thread contentless remarks that have no bearing on the game other than to aggravate or show disdain for me actually playing the game.

Now play or leave.
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 01:27 GMT
#223
On November 27 2014 10:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
1) Meh. Mafia always want to open early anyway since it becomes harder to open the longer the game goes on, so I don't see how you can draw such a definitive conclusion about someone not being here early. At the very least, this is how I would do it, so I don't put much stock into it.

2) Defensiveness isn't really a scumtell when you're threatening to lynch people off of very little. I fail to see how what you said dictates his alignment.


not when role pm's get sent out an hour early because that's a whole hour of a mafia pm being left to sink in and so he'd just give up and go to bed early at rolling mafia in this probably stacked game

i'm almost positive the first message in the qt is like "we're so fucked"

look at your response, i ask you to comment on something you are reluctant but end up doing it anyway
look at his response, i ask him to comment on it and he gives a VERY generic "i dont vote on ANYONE EVER early" response and then criticises me and leaves

what good natured towny wants to shut down any productive discussion even if it's misplaced? the answer is no good natured towny ever
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 01:28 GMT
#225
On November 27 2014 10:26 marvellosity wrote:
btw, HF, nothing wrong at all with being tryhard, doesn't mean you should expect everyone to tryhard the same as you straight away.


well I'm going to kick everyone into shape
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 01:44 GMT
#228
On November 27 2014 10:41 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 10:27 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2014 10:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
1) Meh. Mafia always want to open early anyway since it becomes harder to open the longer the game goes on, so I don't see how you can draw such a definitive conclusion about someone not being here early. At the very least, this is how I would do it, so I don't put much stock into it.

2) Defensiveness isn't really a scumtell when you're threatening to lynch people off of very little. I fail to see how what you said dictates his alignment.


not when role pm's get sent out an hour early because that's a whole hour of a mafia pm being left to sink in and so he'd just give up and go to bed early at rolling mafia in this probably stacked game

i'm almost positive the first message in the qt is like "we're so fucked"

look at your response, i ask you to comment on something you are reluctant but end up doing it anyway
look at his response, i ask him to comment on it and he gives a VERY generic "i dont vote on ANYONE EVER early" response and then criticises me and leaves

what good natured towny wants to shut down any productive discussion even if it's misplaced? the answer is no good natured towny ever

Do you think that me/Marv/Rayn/Palmer/Wave are all town?


did any of you post how awesome this deadline is and that you only wouldn't be available for it at weekends?
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 02:11 GMT
#244
On November 27 2014 11:00 geript wrote:
No my question is valid HF. Do you really think there's a scum team that doesn't include any of those 5? Like there's at least 6 people in this game who are wholly capable of hard carrying as scum. Odds of no vets being mafia, aka scrub scum team, is quite low. idk if shaopi rng's or get balances. Like there are only a handful of people who shit bricks when they roll mafia.

Look HF. I'm not saying your point on him not being around considering deadline isn't interesting. My point is the scared shitless argument is crap and you know it.


no it's irrelevant because unless all the vets are mafia they will be against some vets and therefore be fucked

if i was mafia with marv/me/wave or w/e i would still say fuck this shit as soon as i entered and be super demotivated and i probably would have just gone to bed, heck just look at all the pre-game hype about people wanting to not roll mafia

the "we're fucked" thing is totally not the point I am making at all it was just to counter obi's trivial point about jat being motivated to post as mafia when that wouldn't probably be the case at all with pm's an hour+ before deadlines
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 02:12 GMT
#245
On November 27 2014 10:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
How the hell do people play D1? Usually I turtle up and wait for the night. I'm trying to be more active because I have the time, but no idea what do.


talk about anything i've written instead of saying how you want to lynch me?
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 02:12 GMT
#246
I mean you've hosted like a million games sentinel surely you're aware of how this game works by now????
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 02:20 GMT
#253
He's a twat face in general yes
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 02:20 GMT
#254
On November 27 2014 11:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 11:12 Holyflare wrote:
I mean you've hosted like a million games sentinel surely you're aware of how this game works by now????


Woosh.


I don't think you realise it's not a whoosh
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 02:21 GMT
#256
Either way you can ignore the jat thing if you're so hung up about the not posting wifom.

Talk about sn0.
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 02:25 GMT
#262
That's more to geript or superbia who mentioned him in passing
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 02:28 GMT
#267
On November 27 2014 11:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 11:12 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2014 10:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
How the hell do people play D1? Usually I turtle up and wait for the night. I'm trying to be more active because I have the time, but no idea what do.


talk about anything i've written instead of saying how you want to lynch me?

The two are related


Talking about the individual aspects raised in my posts rather than my posting style then...
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 02:32 GMT
#274
On November 27 2014 11:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 11:28 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2014 11:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 27 2014 11:12 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2014 10:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
How the hell do people play D1? Usually I turtle up and wait for the night. I'm trying to be more active because I have the time, but no idea what do.


talk about anything i've written instead of saying how you want to lynch me?

The two are related


Talking about the individual aspects raised in my posts rather than my posting style then...

There are many individual posts, and most of them are one-linery. I want to lynch you to reduce the number of one-liners I have to read.


Your entire 2 page filter is comprised of entirely 1 to 2 liners with absolutely no content since the game has started.
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#277
Right so you're perfectly capable of making the logical step of one liners not meaning anything about alignment. Therefore you're perfectly capable of talking about anything that I have mentioned in my many 1 liners (i don't even have that many actually my posts have been pretty lengthy) instead of perpetuating the incessant spam that you hate so much.

What is being sarcastic and snide in response to me asking you to do something going to achieve other than me replying with a 1 line remark about how you are doing nothing? The answer is nothing but continuing the thing you hate. It actually makes you quite likely mafia combined with your previous posts.
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 03:20 GMT
#286
On November 27 2014 11:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 11:00 geript wrote:
No my question is valid HF. Do you really think there's a scum team that doesn't include any of those 5? Like there's at least 6 people in this game who are wholly capable of hard carrying as scum. Odds of no vets being mafia, aka scrub scum team, is quite low. idk if shaopi rng's or get balances. Like there are only a handful of people who shit bricks when they roll mafia.

Look HF. I'm not saying your point on him not being around considering deadline isn't interesting. My point is the scared shitless argument is crap and you know it.

I shit bricks when I roll mafia and I can carry. WHAT NOW

Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 11:20 Holyflare wrote:
He's a twat face in general yes

Mental image of this made me giggle.

HF you've caught so many mafias so far! Take a break and come play Skullgirls.


I've gone to bed!
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 11:02 GMT
#320
I never said you were too scared to post ever. I said an hour of staring at a mafia pm before the game starts is enough to make you feel sad and go to bed without posting! Quite different
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 11:05 GMT
#322
The only question that remains is if HF made an awful push to get discussion going as town or if he just wants to seem tryhard and active as scum.


You spent all of your time commenting on something that you don't know the motive of instead of commenting on the rest of the game/my posts. That doesn't particularly enthuse me.
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 11:17 GMT
#324
Then they reach a conclusion. If what he thought I was doing was scummy then he'd be saying that and pointing out what else in my filter is scummy. If he thought what I was saying was to drive discussion then he would have been talking about the discussion it made. As it stands he made no conclusion and no insightful comments with seemingly a limited day due to work.
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 11:20 GMT
#326
Sn0 has dropped off of the face of the earth it seems which is mildly annoying when he's the center of suspicion. I agree with geripts post largely (although probably not all the conclusions he made like wave/sentinel etc) about Superbia being super meek and asking very limited questions that go nowhere.
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 11:21 GMT
#327
Yes well if he's mafia you've already shut down 1 avenue of it then haven't you
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 11:24 GMT
#330
Unfortunately all the other avenues are closed right now so it's the only one to go down.
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 11:29 GMT
#331
On November 27 2014 19:25 marvellosity wrote:
I actually already have 2 people I'd shoot on the spot right now, which is unusual


Who are these 2?
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 11:39 GMT
#336
teaching newbies that scum musr refuse to give information,


I don't think you should be teaching newbies that
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 11:41 GMT
#339
I dunno mafia can make good general meta points really easily on town people and the person would just pass it off as astute and move on their way. It doesn't particularly mean anything.
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 11:46 GMT
#346
Why did you only comment on my part about jat and then say it's completely null but then avoided sn0?whole paragraph said nothing really
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 12:01 GMT
#362
On November 27 2014 21:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 20:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 27 2014 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
rayn and GB. Hopefully rayn's about to shout at me about it


I understand your mafia motivation to shoot us

Implying you think rayn is town?


This was quite obviously a joke....
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 12:05 GMT
#371
On November 27 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 21:01 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2014 21:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 27 2014 20:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 27 2014 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
rayn and GB. Hopefully rayn's about to shout at me about it


I understand your mafia motivation to shoot us

Implying you think rayn is town?


This was quite obviously a joke....

So what?


So it was quite irrelevant when we've been talking about you
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 12:07 GMT
#376
I mean you return to the thread see us continuing to talk about you, rayn posting "lies" or whatever and the first thing you do is comment on that.

It just looks like you wanted to try and do a joke post to fit in
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 12:11 GMT
#385
....... You know it's a joke post but you responded with a super serious "so rayn is town" post...?

If you know it's a joke post that response didn't fit in the slightest
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 12:11 GMT
#387
Bye
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 12:12 GMT
#388
On November 27 2014 21:09 marvellosity wrote:
... but anyone could ask him to just paste the PMs...

Holyflare
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November 27 2014 12:17 GMT
#392
It's not asinine and you're not questioning gb about his reads. You have a guy that is confirmed lying to you and rather than jump all over that shit and call him confirmed mafia for spreading these blatant lies you'd rather take gb's joke post that you know is a joke post and try and make it look like some fake slip first. It doesn't make much sense to me
Holyflare
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November 27 2014 12:24 GMT
#395
On November 27 2014 21:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 21:17 Holyflare wrote:
It's not asinine and you're not questioning gb about his reads. You have a guy that is confirmed lying to you and rather than jump all over that shit and call him confirmed mafia for spreading these blatant lies you'd rather take gb's joke post that you know is a joke post and try and make it look like some fake slip first. It doesn't make much sense to me

This is a fucking stupid post given you agreed with my argument that the lie wouldn't be purposeful and jat has tried calling rayn out on it at least twice.

Cmon hf, pls


It's not fucking stupid. He decided to comment on something completely irrelevant and useless before pushing that read which should be confirmed mafia for lying about.
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November 27 2014 12:24 GMT
#396
There's no way anyone decides to put their case on confirmed mafia behind asking someone joking about their joke post like that.
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November 27 2014 12:26 GMT
#397
On November 27 2014 21:24 Holyflare wrote:
There's no way anyone decides to put their case on confirmed mafia behind asking someone about their joke post like that.

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#400
Yeh no shit he shouldn't be. JAT is saying he is though so it's a narrative for him. Not you or I.
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#415
On November 27 2014 21:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 08:31 geript wrote:
Had what do you think of Sn0's opening? Like I dislike how awkward and unfunny it is. It feels worse to me because I remember him as a player who likes to fuck around a lot in the beginning. It was just a hit it and quit it thing. I also dislike how uncomfortable it comes off as in his response. Conversely though, he's a little dgaf which can be towny.


I don't like this post. He makes it sound like snow is mafia for being unfunny, which, obviously, isn't a mafia trait. Snow likes to fuck around, well, that's what he did. If he had little participation, that's also not alignment indicative.

Funny thing though is that geript concluded his thoughts saying that snow has a town trait.

Which makes geripts post useless. Content less.


you did exactly the same thing about my posts??
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November 27 2014 12:54 GMT
#419
On November 27 2014 21:49 GlowingBear wrote:
So you do not agree with me HF?


no i like the rest of his posts
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#420
he did the same on wave iirc
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November 27 2014 13:15 GMT
#424
I already did
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#426
On November 27 2014 20:20 Holyflare wrote:
Sn0 has dropped off of the face of the earth it seems which is mildly annoying when he's the center of suspicion. I agree with geripts post largely (although probably not all the conclusions he made like wave/sentinel etc) about Superbia being super meek and asking very limited questions that go nowhere.

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November 27 2014 13:25 GMT
#427
I don't want to talk about geript when I agree with what he's been saying, for his scummy looking people at least.
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November 27 2014 13:32 GMT
#430
no

elvis has done nothing but troll around and is completely null
geript has pushed people that look bad, which I've liked. The only thing I don't agree with is his wave and especially sentinel read

that's about all there is to say about them
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November 27 2014 13:36 GMT
#432
jat did the same thing about me when he said "i dunno if hf pushing this is scummy or towny starting discussion" but you haven't seemed to bring that up at all. You did the same thing to me too, it's irrelevant whether it's about individual posts or overall posts it's wishy washy and has no conclusions. If you think it's alignment indicative then it's indicative about your alignment too.
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November 27 2014 13:38 GMT
#434
On November 27 2014 22:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 22:32 Holyflare wrote:
no

elvis has done nothing but troll around and is completely null
geript has pushed people that look bad, which I've liked. The only thing I don't agree with is his wave and especially sentinel read

that's about all there is to say about them


Well, you're pushing snow, who also was trolly. What is wrong with snow that isn't with Elvis?


I've outlined all this in my filter please read.

Just to say it ALL OVER AGAIN. Sn0 was trolling which is fine. It means nothing. Then when I bring up a decent enough case to discuss or even have a stance on sn0 decides to shut it all down and say a generic response about how he doesn't vote ANYONE based on the first hour of the game. He doesn't comment on JAT, he doesn't comment on anything he in fact refuses to do either. He doesn't want to take any stance on anything in a game that's about finding mafia. He also got very defensive when all I did was ask him to comment on it.

Elvis has just trolled and nothing more. He made one read post when forced and it was useful.
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November 27 2014 13:41 GMT
#435
On November 27 2014 22:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 22:36 Holyflare wrote:
jat did the same thing about me when he said "i dunno if hf pushing this is scummy or towny starting discussion" but you haven't seemed to bring that up at all. You did the same thing to me too, it's irrelevant whether it's about individual posts or overall posts it's wishy washy and has no conclusions. If you think it's alignment indicative then it's indicative about your alignment too.


I've already explained what's different between my post and geripts...


................................. you want me to say whether it's alignment indicative. If I say your post is wishy washy and you tell me "yeh but geript's is too but what do you think that makes him?" then you are implying that wishy washy means an alignment when it doesn't. I've told you I liked what geript has said so quite clearly being wishy washy means nothing in that context.
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November 27 2014 13:46 GMT
#436
Elvis has just trolled and nothing more. He made one read post when forced and it was useful.


but not outside the realm of possible for mafia to do
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November 27 2014 13:47 GMT
#438
geript has also done that throughout the whole game!?!??!! the only difference is that yours is in 1 post and his is in multiple posts, that's so irrelevant when the fact is you were incredibly wishy washy and had no conclusion in that paragraph
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November 27 2014 13:48 GMT
#440
his superbia point is great about how superbia calls out that nobody is attacking sn0 when both me and geript had already called him out but then superbia just drops it and doesn't really care about it
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#441
On November 27 2014 22:48 GlowingBear wrote:
What do you think of WoS?

Having this pre game post in mind, I find his play underwhelming too.

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 04:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 25 2014 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
On November 25 2014 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Trying to get one of jat/hf/marv lynched seems like way too much effort, and being on a scum team against that is also more effort than I think I want to give.

so effectively you're too much of a pussy to play with competent players who fight their corner.

Gotcha

You're such a QT marv

Edit: no but seriously it's more because I put shit tons of effort into every game in general and in the end it's either useless because
A) my reads are fucking terrible and no amount of effort ever seems to change that
B) my scum team roflstomps the town and I probably didn't need to try as hard as I did to do so.

Either way it amounts me to spending waaayyy too much time on mafia for very little tangible reward other than kinda fucking me over RL-wise. If I knew how to limit myself when in a game I'd try that but I don't really.



is there literally anything you are gaining out of all of these asinine questions on players that haven't played the game yet?

wave has done nothing
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November 27 2014 13:52 GMT
#444
On November 27 2014 04:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
I think the people that roll mafia will be pretty demotivated in this game. Ezpz game

Joke's on you, i'm already demotivated.


he already has this post pre-game too
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November 27 2014 13:53 GMT
#445
On November 27 2014 22:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Bah.
Boring.

##Unvote
##Vote: Superbia


what
the
fuck?
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#447
it's most definitely been happening are you even playing the same game!??!???
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#448
can you explain how you go from most definitely thinking wishy washy posts are alignment indicative and voting geript to somehow now voting for HIS top scum read???
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#449
is this like that robik thing marv talked about
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#451
On November 27 2014 22:53 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 22:51 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2014 22:48 GlowingBear wrote:
What do you think of WoS?

Having this pre game post in mind, I find his play underwhelming too.

On November 25 2014 04:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 25 2014 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
On November 25 2014 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Trying to get one of jat/hf/marv lynched seems like way too much effort, and being on a scum team against that is also more effort than I think I want to give.

so effectively you're too much of a pussy to play with competent players who fight their corner.

Gotcha

You're such a QT marv

Edit: no but seriously it's more because I put shit tons of effort into every game in general and in the end it's either useless because
A) my reads are fucking terrible and no amount of effort ever seems to change that
B) my scum team roflstomps the town and I probably didn't need to try as hard as I did to do so.

Either way it amounts me to spending waaayyy too much time on mafia for very little tangible reward other than kinda fucking me over RL-wise. If I knew how to limit myself when in a game I'd try that but I don't really.



is there literally anything you are gaining out of all of these asinine questions on players that haven't played the game yet?

wave has done nothing


I'm planning on making this thread happen.
Because it's page 23 and it didn't happen until now.



For you to think this then you must think that thread discussion hasn't been happening. So why have you been telling us that Elvis! has been busy destroying discussion all along if you think you're only just "making this thread happen" now???
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November 27 2014 16:33 GMT
#539
On November 27 2014 23:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2014 22:53 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 27 2014 22:51 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2014 22:48 GlowingBear wrote:
What do you think of WoS?

Having this pre game post in mind, I find his play underwhelming too.

On November 25 2014 04:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 25 2014 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
On November 25 2014 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Trying to get one of jat/hf/marv lynched seems like way too much effort, and being on a scum team against that is also more effort than I think I want to give.

so effectively you're too much of a pussy to play with competent players who fight their corner.

Gotcha

You're such a QT marv

Edit: no but seriously it's more because I put shit tons of effort into every game in general and in the end it's either useless because
A) my reads are fucking terrible and no amount of effort ever seems to change that
B) my scum team roflstomps the town and I probably didn't need to try as hard as I did to do so.

Either way it amounts me to spending waaayyy too much time on mafia for very little tangible reward other than kinda fucking me over RL-wise. If I knew how to limit myself when in a game I'd try that but I don't really.



is there literally anything you are gaining out of all of these asinine questions on players that haven't played the game yet?

wave has done nothing


I'm planning on making this thread happen.
Because it's page 23 and it didn't happen until now.



For you to think this then you must think that thread discussion hasn't been happening. So why have you been telling us that Elvis! has been busy destroying discussion all along if you think you're only just "making this thread happen" now???


There was serious discussion going on. Nonetheless, it was a bad one since you can't get someone's alignment from that.
The thread has stopped motion and I tried to gather information.

What's happening with you HF? You're pushing things that are silly to push since the beginning to the game


Like what? The only silly thing was jat because that was intentional at the start of the game. Which is what I do in a LOT of games. I didn't like his response and thought it was actually pretty scummy what he was doing. I'm backing off so he can do w/e the fuck he wants (abd save tunneling forever) I don't care if you like it or not but don't say I'm pushing silly things when you are the one asking me what i think of afkers alignments and then when i actually push something that's weird (you scum reading geript for the same thing you were doing and voting for him and then voting for his main scum read) you completely try and shut down the discussion entirely.

If anything you are the weird one
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#551
Like you'd ever have a reason to move your vote
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#554
Not letting gb off for his shit geript read into sheeping geript
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#557
Well marv said he did it woth robik in another game and maybe he thought it was futile arguing with me about it
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#568
On November 28 2014 02:11 geript wrote:
##unvite
##vote:waveofshadow

You have my sword Marv. That Superbia post just feels bad to me.


But wave was ++-? Not that i hate the vote it's pretty likely he's mafia but why was Superbia post bad? It was quite good
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November 27 2014 17:23 GMT
#570
How the hell can it be opportunistic?
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November 27 2014 17:24 GMT
#571
The opportunity to lynch someone that looks like mafia?
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#574
On November 28 2014 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 02:08 marvellosity wrote:
On November 28 2014 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I'm here, marvy. Sadly it won't be me to relieve your boredom. Don't feel like posting much/don't have much useful to say and see no reason to move my vote so I'm content to lurk.

well, you've made me happier with my vote I guess?

You can lynch me for not playing atm, sure, but you and I both know your vote won't be on me at the end of the day regardless.


Well that's just not really true if you decide to not play
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#582
wut???????
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#583
oh i misread what you said ok
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#586
I dunno, really dislike GB this game because all he did was ask me useless questions and say he's getting the game in shape while saying it was already in shape with discussion and then the thing with you/superbia... just meh

Then he picked me out saying i look weird for not pushing anything good even though he's voting on the target i said i agreed with you about -.- -.- -.- -.-

sn0 - scummy originally and still scummy done absolutely nothing
sentinel - same as above
wave - -.- MEH
jat.... i dunno i'll probably end up wrong but he hasn't done much to convince me otherwise just chiming in with nothing useful really

palmar?


this is my shit list
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November 27 2014 17:45 GMT
#588
On November 28 2014 02:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm definitely not refusing to participate
i just don't have any great insight


tell me what you find weird? how can you have absolutely no opinion on anything that has happened?
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#594
On November 28 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
I dunno, really dislike GB this game because all he did was ask me useless questions and say he's getting the game in shape while saying it was already in shape with discussion and then the thing with you/superbia... just meh

Then he picked me out saying i look weird for not pushing anything good even though he's voting on the target i said i agreed with you about -.- -.- -.- -.-

sn0 - scummy originally and still scummy done absolutely nothing
sentinel - same as above
wave - -.- MEH
jat.... i dunno i'll probably end up wrong but he hasn't done much to convince me otherwise just chiming in with nothing useful really

palmar?


this is my shit list

Wow. So you have your GB read and nothing else and you complain about me having nothing useful. Your shitlist consists of me who is town and literally the 3 guys refusing to participate.


Who is the one i say I'm not particularly sure about. Now instead of calling it shit tell me where the hell you disagree
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November 27 2014 17:56 GMT
#596
Also nothing else? Quite clearly elaborated a sn0 read at least twice. Also a sentinel read.
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#600
Yes continue fulfilling that shit list read then
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#602
I don't know why you're being so obnoxious and can't even have a discussion instead of being a twat and shitting on everything.
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November 27 2014 18:01 GMT
#605
Well I've completely backed off of you in order to have that discussion so no it's absolutely not ironic. It is quite childish on your part though that someone who found you scummy for actual reasons that he elaborated on is being shut down because you couldn't handle that pressure briefly.
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November 27 2014 18:12 GMT
#614
On November 28 2014 03:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 03:01 Holyflare wrote:
Well I've completely backed off of you in order to have that discussion so no it's absolutely not ironic. It is quite childish on your part though that someone who found you scummy for actual reasons that he elaborated on is being shut down because you couldn't handle that pressure briefly.

2 questions.

1) If you have completely backed off - why am I on your shitlist? And no you didn't bring a single good reason for that read. Such a thing doesn't even exist.
2) If I "couldn't handle the pressure" how am I able to shut you down? The answer is there is no pressure. It is just you making an awful unsubstantiated read while being annoying/nitpicky about it and me calling you out for it.

Being on a list is completely different from continually pressuring you which is what i mean by backing off. It doesn't matter if you think it exists or not. It's what i felt and i fully explained why i felt it. Whether you agree/disagree or I'm right or wrong is irrelevant to what I just said.

You are shutting down discussion not shutting down my arguments why is this even a point?
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November 27 2014 18:15 GMT
#617
I want to discuss what you think is wrong with my list. Quite clearly disagreeing about yourself is irrelevant. You are shutting down talking about the rest of my reads because you are bitter about earlier and i called it childish.
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November 27 2014 18:15 GMT
#619
Who is scum jat?
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November 27 2014 18:37 GMT
#631
On November 28 2014 03:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 03:25 geript wrote:
On November 28 2014 03:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
On November 28 2014 03:20 geript wrote:
On November 28 2014 03:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
well for one thing both of them have strange ideas about me being scum based on the literal nothings

asserting that ur play is godlike day 1 is questionable regardless of veracity. see: geripts earlier claims

Like saying you're town and therefore we're way off base is ridiculous. Show us that you're town and show ushow and where else we've gone wrong then. Like all you're doing right now is shitting on people

see now ur putting words into my mouth too

Is there a different way to take" neither big G nor HF have a good grasp on this game" than that we're both town and both pretty wrong in our suspects?

There's no assertion that either of you are town in my statement. Feel free to try re-reading what I said.

both of you started this game by being unreasonably rude to me without any particular reason and seem to believe that I'm scum because I had no desire to interact with you at game start when all you wanted to do was be offensive.

I don't see how any of that would be alignment indicative but it definitely means that at least one of your reads is bad and based on bullshit. Technically if you were scum you'd have perfect reads, but w/e.

If I had particular reason to believe that you are any given alignment that would probably make it into the thread


I don't see how I was rude when all i wanted to do was talk about a read in the game and you quite clearly said no and left
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November 27 2014 18:45 GMT
#633
I didn't make up a read i made a valuable case thati wanted you to comment on. Of course it's valuable to the game because it starts discussion.
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#637
Then why couldn't you just say that in the first place??????
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#638
Saying "i don't vote ppl 1 hour into the game" is completely different from saying "it's based on nothing i don't agree, it's a useless case"
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#643
It's only useless if you don't agree?????????
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#645
Now you are being intentionally dense. You just said it was useless because a person hadn't posted. Being useless means it has no use or basis. If it has no use or basis for you then by the very definition of it being useless you don't agree.

You said nothing of the sort at the start of the game.
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#650
probably taking sn0 off some list
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November 27 2014 19:27 GMT
#651
##unvote
##vote waveofshadow
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November 27 2014 21:57 GMT
#702
so when are you actually going to do anything?
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November 27 2014 21:59 GMT
#703
On November 28 2014 06:20 marvellosity wrote:
well i think i townread rayn now
i also think i townread holyflare and geript
i townread obi
sentinel might be town for terrible reasons
palmar wildcard

already my list is shrinking


this is the town version of my shit list
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November 27 2014 21:59 GMT
#704
aka how i got to it
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#705
I also think there's probably a mafia between superbia/gb but not both and i'm not sure which because i could make cases on both
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#706
#lazyplayssss
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#709
On November 28 2014 07:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Fwiw, I find it hard to believe that Wave, one of the tryhardiest mafiosos on site, would just up and not do anything.

Not exactly a solid read, but...There you go.


He did "demotivated" as mafia with jat in the game you are salty jat beat you in
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November 27 2014 22:24 GMT
#711
On November 28 2014 07:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
On November 28 2014 07:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Fwiw, I find it hard to believe that Wave, one of the tryhardiest mafiosos on site, would just up and not do anything.

Not exactly a solid read, but...There you go.


He did "demotivated" as mafia with jat in the game you are salty jat beat you in


Was he actually demotivated, though? I remember most of the accusations on him were centered around him being "robotic" and "calculated."

Here it doesn't seem like he gives a shit.


it's not exactly hard to do nothing as mafia and he'd be super demotivated if his scum team is afk/doing nothing
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November 27 2014 23:29 GMT
#743
On November 28 2014 07:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 06:59 Holyflare wrote:
aka how i got to it

And why didn't you say that the first time? We could have avoided some stupid shit you know...


.... you didn't really want to discuss anything with me at all and still don't even town read me so who cares?
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November 27 2014 23:31 GMT
#746
um you're the one complaining that I didn't say this the first time, think you have your wires crossed there buddy!
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#748
i don't even know if you agree with any of these gb reads at all jat
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November 27 2014 23:43 GMT
#755
I quite clearly told you smash bros was released today. Gb is also my top suspect from my list post. You're just kind of rehashing what I've already said about him.

"he criticised ppl for wishy washy posts and said it was alignment indicative but he did the same thing as them"
"he voted his scum reads top mafia suspect"
"he said he was making discussion happen but just asked about lurkers and did nothing "
" he pushed elvis for ruining discussion but said he was changing the thread so that discussion started "

You're actually just copying the points i raised
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November 27 2014 23:52 GMT
#761
I meant your previous points were a rehash. These new ones are pretty much just continuing to point out the same things in a different way. His elvis read was bad and scummy = his elvis read was bad because he's new.

Your only real new point is that he used bs meta and refused to respond about what he did being scummy which he did exactly tje same way to me already
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November 27 2014 23:53 GMT
#762
Gb it doesn't matter how many times you say it's different when it's absolutely not
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November 28 2014 00:37 GMT
#778
On November 28 2014 09:10 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 08:52 Holyflare wrote:
I meant your previous points were a rehash. These new ones are pretty much just continuing to point out the same things in a different way. His elvis read was bad and scummy = his elvis read was bad because he's new.

Your only real new point is that he used bs meta and refused to respond about what he did being scummy which he did exactly tje same way to me already


Right. I'm not going to lie, I did not really register your points on GB at all. Let me give a quick recap:
1. GB says something regarding my meta, which I recognize as weak and wrong, I make an in-depth push on it.
2. I check out GB's filter and notice the following:
- Weak push on Elvis for a bad reason.
- Vote do not align correctly with reads (I did notice you pushed on this as well, but I do not recall seeing any follow up).
- Cursory reads with no conclusions.
- Trying to devalue your case for no good reason.

Hence I scum-read him and take up this in my case. My case was rather complete, so it makes sense that it would include points that might've been brought up before. Do you genuinely feel like my points were a complete or partial rehash of your points? What does this say about my alignment?


I think you're confusing things here. You asked why i was uninterested and I'm telling you because of smash and you saying things I've already said /agree with
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 00:39 GMT
#781
He's in my list of mafia yes
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 07:57 GMT
#960
On November 28 2014 10:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Well, I'm not impressed: you've played with a bunch of lol players.
If it was dota, on the other hand... You would stick into playing.

WoS, your demotivation is starting to sound forced. You discussing with marv isn't taking us nowhere. Can you ignore him for a moment?

I'd love to hear your thoughts on HF. I kinda don't know how do I read him


Hah wtf
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 08:04 GMT
#961
On November 12 2014 21:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 21:34 Holyflare wrote:
Love how everyone is saying this but I'm 9-1 as mafia? :D


Oh, I'm not saying you didn't play well HF. Mafia win was totally deserved.
But after this game I think your meta was like... revealed?

If you check the obs qt, although everybody had shitty guesses, almost everyone had you as scum. I guessed you as scum just after I died lol.

But yeah, very well played

On November 12 2014 21:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 21:45 marvellosity wrote:
it's always different in-game to outside of the game. I've benefited from the same phenomenon.


Yes it is. But I posted my guess on him right after I died, so... I think I would be on the right track if I survived

I'm probably gonna play one or two mafias and enter an obs spree. Observing is easier to learn because you don't have the pressure of stablishing your innocence.

Then I'll return as the supreme mafia player from TL.

Be warned.


Post game hearthstone. Thought you said i was easy to read gb? Why are you downplaying things so much?
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 08:08 GMT
#962
Also the wave qq seemed legit

##unvote
##vote gb
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 08:12 GMT
#963
Gb is reading posts completely differently to me it seems.

Thinks Superbia's latest case looks really forced. It didn't.

Thinks wave and marv convo is mafia together????? I don't even understand this at all

Thinks waves qq looks super forced when it didn't


Holyflare
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November 28 2014 08:23 GMT
#964
Still not gonna remove jat from my list no matter how much he whines though, he hasn't really done anything this game but qq defence and then just chat about nothing in particular.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 08:50 GMT
#966
Yes but your reason for having me on a shit list is non existing
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:05 GMT
#970
Please do. I'm on your shit list which means I have a good chance to be mafia according to you. So please outline your read on me so you'll actually be culpable for something this game. As it stands nothing in your filter is a real stance on anything.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:08 GMT
#972
Have you also ditched your rayn read completely even though you proved he was lying? You didn't mention anything about rayn when you were disagreeing with marvs list.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:09 GMT
#973
On November 28 2014 18:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 18:05 Holyflare wrote:
Please do. I'm on your shit list which means I have a good chance to be mafia according to you. So please outline your read on me so you'll actually be culpable for something this game. As it stands nothing in your filter is a real stance on anything.

If you think that I haven't given reads this game then you did not read it. It is that simple.


Yes please stop making useless posts like this where you halter the discussion all over again and get to actually discussing your scum read on me.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:10 GMT
#974
I've read the game, I don't feel like you have had any original thoughts and you haven't done much. I don't care if you disagree because that's what I'm reading.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:14 GMT
#977
Like me making a case about you with 0 posts and then attacking you and dropping the attack afterwards?

#dounlestandards
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:15 GMT
#978
#doublestandards :p

And if you say "oh but you're still attacking me" that also applies to rayn too
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:17 GMT
#982
This is really not fucking minor jat. You have 1 original content spree of posts and that's on me which is fucking simple to do when i made a laughable case on you based on you not even posting. The rest of your game does not exist, it's just simply not there.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:18 GMT
#983
Now outline your case on me. Stop being obtuse or you are actually very likely mafia.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:19 GMT
#985
I can already predict your next useless post being typed out
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:19 GMT
#986
There it is
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:21 GMT
#987
It's a simple question, outline your case on me. It should be a simple answer of a few lines that just outlines your thoughts. It's the easiest thing in the world to do if you're town. Why is it like drawing blood out of a stone?
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:24 GMT
#989
Yeh the post where you say the stuff I'm doing is not alignment indicative ok jat

##unvote
##vote justanothertownie


Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:26 GMT
#990
On November 27 2014 19:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jat do you seriously think there is any reason for you to defend yourself?

For my survival? No. To show that HF is pushing something that isn't alignment indicative as scummy? Yes. I called out 2 specific things that I have trouble seeing HF believe. Do you think that what HF would be afraid of posting as scum? Do you think HF believes that I would be afraid?
If the answer to that is no then the whole push is bullshit. The only question that remains is if HF made an awful push to get discussion going as town or if he just wants to seem tryhard and active as scum.



Hey look you destroyed your entire case for yourself
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:28 GMT
#992
Just going to reiterate i never said you were afraid of posting either. I said you'd probably be demotivated and go to bed because that's what I would have done.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:28 GMT
#993
On November 28 2014 18:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 18:24 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh the post where you say the stuff I'm doing is not alignment indicative ok jat

##unvote
##vote justanothertownie



There is nothing like this in that post but nice try.


I just quoted the exact place where you said this
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:31 GMT
#994
Didn't I completely drop that case as soon as you returned anyway? I'm almost 100% sure I did which further should outline that it wasn't a proper push.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:34 GMT
#997
But no. You've done no legwork to see whether that was the case. You don't want me to outline what I think about you. All you do is try and shut down anything productive when I talk to you and shy away from ever giving out elaborated scum reads even on me you don't even have a scum read becauae you shut down your whole case when you said it's not alignment indicative
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:36 GMT
#998
On November 28 2014 18:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 18:28 Holyflare wrote:
On November 28 2014 18:27 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 28 2014 18:24 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh the post where you say the stuff I'm doing is not alignment indicative ok jat

##unvote
##vote justanothertownie



There is nothing like this in that post but nice try.


I just quoted the exact place where you said this

Which is a different post.


You are talking about your first post. That is pretty obvious. You say your case is your first post, you then have a post that relates to your case that says it's not alignment indicative. There's nothing more open and shut than that and you know it.

I don't have anything to say about rayn other than I like his reads on elvis/meta and you
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:38 GMT
#1000
Have I used that post to scum read you since you returned? No. Everything that's happened in this game is unrelated to that push as all it did was generate discussion. You really have no point here.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:40 GMT
#1003
On November 28 2014 18:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dunno hf. Are you trying to convince jat he is mafia?
I think everyone gets what you are saying so there is really no need to repeat it.

Could you look into elvis/damdred and tell me what you think?
Also do you think gb is mafia?


I'm at a crossroads with gb where I think everything he is posting is genuinely bad and I think he IS mafia but then I'm reminded of the past few games where I think the exact same things and he's town. I'd lean much more mafia ready than usual though, especially with the people I'm town reading now.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:41 GMT
#1004
I also get annoyed with people that act like brick walls rayn you should know that
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:43 GMT
#1006
But you agreed with all my reads bar you ok jat
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 09:44 GMT
#1007
Make me some kind of list post with where you stand with a sentence on each please
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 11:35 GMT
#1033
On November 28 2014 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 20:23 marvellosity wrote:
like there's virtually nothing in the last few pages of your filter addressing GB, or Damdred, or practically anyone other than arguing with HF and sometimes talking to me

why?

if you have enough time to post 40 times arguing with HF then you have enough time to do those things, even if just to a small degree.

Theoretically. I didn't even really have the time to argue with HF and shouldn't have done so but he is just annoying me too much.
I will give you an opinion on Damdred/GB once I reread them which will be later. I don't remember anything about them despite GB accusing Superbia for being a big wall poster which was bad and people pointing out that Elvis played differently than he did in his recent towngames which I agree was the case.


This is bull shit because all I quite clearly asked for was for you to elaborate your read on me and you decided not to and it took 2 pages for you to say look at page 1
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 11:45 GMT
#1038
It's not on him if you can't adequately display why I am mafia apart from your first post of the game. Not to mention I'm not mafia
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 13:52 GMT
#1090
Am i bussing now wave?
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 16:42 GMT
#1198
[QUOTE]On November 29 2014 01:36 justanothertownie wrote:
6. Sn0_Man
8. Elvis! replaced by Damdred Day 1
9. GlowingBear
10. [UoN]Sentinel
12. Palmar

Currently I think we should lynch into this list. I will try to narrow it down in the next hours and will also take suggestions of who to take out or put back in.[/QUOTE[QUOTE]On November 28 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 28 2014 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
I dunno, really dislike GB this game because all he did was ask me useless questions and say he's getting the game in shape while saying it was already in shape with discussion and then the thing with you/superbia... just meh

Then he picked me out saying i look weird for not pushing anything good even though he's voting on the target i said i agreed with you about -.- -.- -.- -.-

sn0 - scummy originally and still scummy done absolutely nothing
sentinel - same as above
wave - -.- MEH
jat.... i dunno i'll probably end up wrong but he hasn't done much to convince me otherwise just chiming in with nothing useful really

palmar?


this is my shit list[/QUOTE]
Wow. So you have your GB read and nothing else and you complain about me having nothing useful. Your shitlist consists of me who is town and literally the 3 guys refusing to participate.[/QUOTE]

The circle of life
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 16:42 GMT
#1199
Fml
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 16:43 GMT
#1201
On November 29 2014 01:36 justanothertownie wrote:
6. Sn0_Man
8. Elvis! replaced by Damdred Day 1
9. GlowingBear
10. [UoN]Sentinel
12. Palmar

Currently I think we should lynch into this list. I will try to narrow it down in the next hours and will also take suggestions of who to take out or put back in.


On November 28 2014 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
I dunno, really dislike GB this game because all he did was ask me useless questions and say he's getting the game in shape while saying it was already in shape with discussion and then the thing with you/superbia... just meh

Then he picked me out saying i look weird for not pushing anything good even though he's voting on the target i said i agreed with you about -.- -.- -.- -.-

sn0 - scummy originally and still scummy done absolutely nothing
sentinel - same as above
wave - -.- MEH
jat.... i dunno i'll probably end up wrong but he hasn't done much to convince me otherwise just chiming in with nothing useful really

palmar?


this is my shit list

Wow. So you have your GB read and nothing else and you complain about me having nothing useful. Your shitlist consists of me who is town and literally the 3 guys refusing to participate.


The circle of life
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 16:53 GMT
#1209
Because at the time elvis being trolly like he was isn't likely for a new person playing mafia
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 16:58 GMT
#1221
On November 29 2014 01:54 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 01:53 Holyflare wrote:
Because at the time elvis being trolly like he was isn't likely for a new person playing mafia

r u suggesting that makes him town?


Keyword at the time
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 16:59 GMT
#1222
On November 29 2014 01:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 01:48 marvellosity wrote:
where did Superbia go
where did GB go
where is rayn
where did Sn0 go


Marv, I've just got to work. Won't be too active.

Btw I'd rather lynch the scummy lurker rather than you day1. The case stays there, though.

Answering your question, yes, you're very capable. But that's the problem marv. You're so capable of finding scum that, if you keep mislynching, you'll be lynched in later days. It's exactly how it happens with hapa.

The better option is to not compromise yourself, which I believe it's what you're doing.



So you're ditching everything to see if he finds mafia??? Wut
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 18:46 GMT
#1323
On November 29 2014 03:23 geript wrote:
HF what's your read on Damdred.


Honestly? I'm not really sure I have a read on him right now other than him seeming incredibly tunnelled on 2 people. If anything it's pretty odd that he called gb town for his case when most people thought the opposite seeing as gb was 1 of only like 2 people he focused on and he didn't even question him.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 18:54 GMT
#1336
On November 29 2014 03:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:23 geript wrote:
HF what's your read on Damdred.


Honestly? I'm not really sure I have a read on him right now other than him seeming incredibly tunnelled on 2 people. If anything it's pretty odd that he called gb town for his case when most people thought the opposite seeing as gb was 1 of only like 2 people he focused on and he didn't even question him.

Who is on your computer HF?
This is an interesting development lol


My gf is playing isaac
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 18:55 GMT
#1338
Damd I want you off the top of your head to explain why you think gb is town. Like fully explain as much as you can without checking his posts.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 18:56 GMT
#1339
On November 29 2014 03:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well I just called your gf a shitter then.
And you're not lying down, don't lie to your gf.


I'm lying in bed on my phone right next to her?
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 18:57 GMT
#1342
On November 29 2014 03:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Am I stupid or are Waves recent posts really weird? He says he scumreads rayn takes FFL2 to prove that while thinking he was town there (?). Wut?

Of course it was weird, I screwed up and realized it right after I posted. Either way, I was trying to show how Rayn cares more as town than scum and while FFL2 showed him caring a little, it's certainly more than he cares here.

I have a question for you though, why did you bring up the example?
On November 29 2014 03:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 03:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On November 29 2014 02:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
[quote]
What?

Earlier you wanted to lynch HF despite not being able to catch him.

I don't see what one has anything to do with the other. Palmar is catchable, if he plays the game.

On November 29 2014 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, wave?

That's pretty tempting actually. I don't think I've ever seen Rayn play so little though. It's hard for me to believe that's alignment indicative so I wonder if we'd be lynching him for the wrong reasons.
Let me read him because I haven't.

If that is the only thing that's bothering you take a look at FFL2.

Here and a couple other places in your filter you bring up rayn subtly painting him in a scummy light and then you don't do anything about it. Is there a particular reason?

Ok, let me get this straight. You say you could see rayn being scum but have doubt because he is playing so little. I present you a game where rayn does very little as scum.
What is there that does not make sense to you?

Then after that you go "rayn cares way more as town". Oh, yeah? If that is what you are thinking how come you doubted your read earlier because he played so little? Something doesn't add up here.

It was a response to you linking FFL2 to Sn0.

And I still doubt my read.

Answer my question JAT. If Rayn is so scummy to you that you need to bring up evidence as to his scumminess to both me AND Sn0, why haven't you done anything about it?

Yes, I linked that game to sn0 to demonstrate that his read is wrong. I don't see how that changes anything.
What do you think I should do about it? I already said if rayn doesn't deliver soon he will be back on my lynch list.

Why are you still waiting for him to deliver with 4 hours left on the first day? It seems are you're already attempting to convince yourself and others he is scum but not really pushing it particularly hard, and it really rubs me the wrong way.

You mean I am scummy for going after your scumread?


I don't see how this is relevant. Of course you can be.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 19:01 GMT
#1346
The more you post superbia the less I like you as town :/
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 19:08 GMT
#1350
You say the post is weird/not scummy/but towny all in the same paragraph but give no reasons why it's towny at all apart from you the little "insight" which isn't particularly an insight at all if all palmar is doing is this one irrelevant thing it's not going to be hard to just tell the truth about something is it?

It's entirely not alignment indicative but you've reached the whole conclusion that the lynch would be garbage despite him doing all the scum tactics under the sun (excuses, no real content bla bla. Why is he even celebrating thanksgiving in iceland lol?)

It seems a bit tmiish to me
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 19:10 GMT
#1352
Like you're "happy" with his reads but his reads are based on literally 5 posts of the game. That's what I'm talking about when I say it's very weird.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 19:13 GMT
#1353
I couldn't care less if you pushed every single one of my scummiest reads either that means nothing in tl mafia if you look scummy doing it I'll push you
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 19:14 GMT
#1356
I literally just explained everything wtf are you talking about?
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 19:21 GMT
#1363
On November 29 2014 04:20 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 03:55 Holyflare wrote:
Damd I want you off the top of your head to explain why you think gb is town. Like fully explain as much as you can without checking his posts.


Struggles with getting across complex ideas and generally looks meh doing it at times which is generally towny of GB. Does what he promises instead of excuses and foes after a hard target in Marv instead of an easy target he could of picked. Seems to believe everything he says.


Can you outline specific examples from memory and fit them into what you just said?
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 19:49 GMT
#1407
I would lynch jat and palmar. Not honestly sure about damd tbh but wouldn't mind the pressure on him for now, wave feeels a bit unfocused but I'm not sure why i feel like that and I haven't really read him properly it just feels that way from watching him interact so kiiind of wary on that

Would lynch sentinel
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 19:51 GMT
#1408
On November 29 2014 04:48 geript wrote:
HF what's your read on Damdred.


I already explained it before? Unless you want the updated version which doesn't exist because i still dunno :p
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 20:04 GMT
#1431
On November 29 2014 04:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
I would lynch jat and palmar. Not honestly sure about damd tbh but wouldn't mind the pressure on him for now, wave feeels a bit unfocused but I'm not sure why i feel like that and I haven't really read him properly it just feels that way from watching him interact so kiiind of wary on that

Would lynch sentinel

If me and Palmar are still your biggest scumreads you basically have to be scum.


You still haven't done anything towny imo. You just reply to things and call things bad. You went on a tiny spree of filter dives which was weird and looked forced because if it was me I'd be all up in that shit based on memory. You are so off this game.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 20:14 GMT
#1445
On November 29 2014 05:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:04 Holyflare wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:49 Holyflare wrote:
I would lynch jat and palmar. Not honestly sure about damd tbh but wouldn't mind the pressure on him for now, wave feeels a bit unfocused but I'm not sure why i feel like that and I haven't really read him properly it just feels that way from watching him interact so kiiind of wary on that

Would lynch sentinel

If me and Palmar are still your biggest scumreads you basically have to be scum.


You still haven't done anything towny imo. You just reply to things and call things bad. You went on a tiny spree of filter dives which was weird and looked forced because if it was me I'd be all up in that shit based on memory. You are so off this game.

If you think from your perspective that scum JAT who was busy for most of day1 has a bigger filter then town HF and picks fights with almost every player in the game except for marv then you are insane.


I haven't even been playing actively and it's irrelevant because your posts don't say anything.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 20:18 GMT
#1453
Why is it laughable when several people, marv included, had the same conclusion? You practically begged him to wait till later and you still did the same amount of nothing in your posts.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 20:19 GMT
#1458
No i have my opinions on who to lynch and i don't care which of the 3 do get lynched. Lazy isn't alignment indicative jat, you should know that.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 20:20 GMT
#1461
How have my posts lacked content? I've been talking about absolutely everything???
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 20:28 GMT
#1474
On November 29 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:19 Holyflare wrote:
No i have my opinions on who to lynch and i don't care which of the 3 do get lynched. Lazy isn't alignment indicative jat, you should know that.

You can't possibly have a read on Palmar. You are still wrong about me and not evaluating even though I have been extremely active and towny in the last hours.
It is looking pretty bad for you.


You haven't at all. You've literally done absolutely nothing. I never said I had a scum read on palmar either, I was asked who I wanted to lynch. I'm not looking bad for doing anything. You already think i look bad/scummy so saying it's looking bad for me just means you didn't think that originally.

Holyflare
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November 28 2014 20:30 GMT
#1479
Do you know what evaluation means? I've literally incorporated what you have done and made my read on you. Just because it is the same read does not mean I haven't reevaluated, especially when I've incorporated everything after the time you said you'd look more towny.
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 20:32 GMT
#1483
Absolutely nobody will follow you jat. Just like nobody will probably follow me. I'm content with both tbh.
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November 28 2014 20:34 GMT
#1489
On November 29 2014 05:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:30 Holyflare wrote:
Do you know what evaluation means? I've literally incorporated what you have done and made my read on you. Just because it is the same read does not mean I haven't reevaluated, especially when I've incorporated everything after the time you said you'd look more towny.

No you fucking didn't. You incorporated nothing at all since you claim that I did nothing which is absolutely ridiculous. Just die.


Doesn't change what I think in the slightest. If I'm town and thinking this then maybe you've gone wrong somewhere.
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#1490
I'm content for a very good reason
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#1498
On November 29 2014 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
I'm content for a very good reason

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#1504
Have a guess fucktard
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November 28 2014 20:42 GMT
#1509
Yes well you'd be advised to start looking mega towny on someone who is actually mafia jat. Jusy sayin.
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November 28 2014 20:44 GMT
#1512
Yes well you can just die then
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November 28 2014 20:45 GMT
#1516
##unvote
##vote damdred
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November 28 2014 20:46 GMT
#1517
Way too sure about meta
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November 28 2014 20:47 GMT
#1520
Keep on fishing
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November 28 2014 20:49 GMT
#1522
Your faction doesn't know my role
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#1526
On November 29 2014 05:49 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:43 Damdred wrote:
Sucks replacing in.

On phone,

Rayn might be scum here honestly. His early vote on jat for reasons is strange for him and the follow up to it is ok enough but his play besides that has been lackluster and he thinks I'm scum but would rather have a fight and look active then push his scum suspect right now in a way to get him lynched.


wat
Isn't pushing a scum suspect exactly what he is doing right now?


Not sure, it might be a tonal thing but the way he's pushing wave feels more like picking a fight rather than scum hunting.


This isn't true in the slightest. Rayn is trying to get wave to elaborate on waves on read but wave os refusing pretty much
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November 28 2014 20:51 GMT
#1527
Think damd is actually a good lynch
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November 28 2014 20:53 GMT
#1529
"tone it down"
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November 28 2014 20:53 GMT
#1531
You can't really say that either when you aren't and haven't voted him at all.
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November 28 2014 21:00 GMT
#1551
[image loading]
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November 28 2014 21:06 GMT
#1567
I'll listen to you damdy don't afk. Tell me what you got.
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November 28 2014 21:13 GMT
#1581
Gb why did you say earlier you have a hard time reading me when last post game i was in you said my meta was blown wide open and i was am easy read now?
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November 28 2014 21:15 GMT
#1583
On November 29 2014 06:12 marvellosity wrote:
HF - what do you think of rayn's stuff on WoS?


I have an odd feeling about wos and I'd need rayn to spell it out for me really because i haven't been paying too much attention to that affair
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November 28 2014 21:45 GMT
#1632
I don't know if i exactly want to lynch wave when he isn't here based on him refusing to answer rayn because that's happened in this game before.

To someone looking into the ffl2 game if you just read rayns filter i assume it doesn't look that bad, it's only if you were in the game do you realise how little he cared.
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November 28 2014 21:47 GMT
#1635
I'm also not sure a mafia wave vs a town rayn goes into that game (thinking rayn is town in it) and trying to show how little "mafia" rayn cares in this game compared to that one.
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November 28 2014 21:50 GMT
#1639
On November 29 2014 06:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 06:45 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know if i exactly want to lynch wave when he isn't here based on him refusing to answer rayn because that's happened in this game before.

To someone looking into the ffl2 game if you just read rayns filter i assume it doesn't look that bad, it's only if you were in the game do you realise how little he cared.

not true, i literally replaced into that game n1 and my comment on rayn was "your filter looks terrible"


Yes but you were in that game and cared about looking at filters. Wave was just thrown a comparison and quickly skimmed over it.
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November 28 2014 21:51 GMT
#1641
Well i don't particularly want to speak for wave but i don't really want to lynch him today.
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November 28 2014 21:52 GMT
#1642
Not based on that vs other people at least
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November 28 2014 21:53 GMT
#1645
I'm pretty sure at least one of damdred and gb are mafia. Something fishy is going on about their reads of each other.
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November 28 2014 21:53 GMT
#1646
On November 29 2014 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 06:45 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know if i exactly want to lynch wave when he isn't here based on him refusing to answer rayn because that's happened in this game before.

To someone looking into the ffl2 game if you just read rayns filter i assume it doesn't look that bad, it's only if you were in the game do you realise how little he cared.

Then why does he not take account my towngames?
I pointed out a towngame i did not care.


He was just told to look at one game?
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 22:36 GMT
#1694
On November 29 2014 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanna vote for html.


useless too
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November 28 2014 22:40 GMT
#1707
On November 29 2014 07:39 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 07:36 Holyflare wrote:
On November 29 2014 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanna vote for html.


useless too


Look who came around. Any input?


?
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#1710
On November 29 2014 07:39 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 07:36 Holyflare wrote:
On November 29 2014 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanna vote for html.


useless too


Look who came around. Any input?


literally only been gone 20 minutes
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November 28 2014 22:41 GMT
#1716
yeh it looked towny enough to move to sentinel

##unvote
##vote sentinel
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November 28 2014 22:44 GMT
#1718
On November 29 2014 07:41 Holyflare wrote:
yeh it looked towny enough to move to sentinel

##unvote
##vote sentinel


maybe not actually his filter has more stuff than i remembered

##unvote
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November 28 2014 22:47 GMT
#1722
meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

##vote glowingbear

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 22:48 GMT
#1729
On November 29 2014 07:47 marvellosity wrote:
GB over, say, Sn0, HF?


honestly i have no idea and the gb defending damd and damd defending gb is just too weird
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November 28 2014 22:49 GMT
#1730
also apparently gb said i have a "tell" which i think is absolute bull shit when he said my meta was ripped wide open last game
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 22:49 GMT
#1732
"i dont know how to read hf"
is completely different from what he just said being
"i have a tell on you"
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November 28 2014 22:52 GMT
#1739
im on gb
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November 28 2014 22:56 GMT
#1749
why?
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 22:56 GMT
#1751
the dude posted from work while raging with a list, not even a plea
Holyflare
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November 28 2014 22:56 GMT
#1753
go to gb and if it works out then yay
if not then there's a lot more info
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November 28 2014 23:05 GMT
#1771
On November 29 2014 08:04 marvellosity wrote:
should've lynched damdred

fuck


only if he's mafia is this relevant
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November 28 2014 23:06 GMT
#1772
:D :D:D
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November 29 2014 17:05 GMT
#1859
Going to be out all night so have fun, if jat doesn't die I got rb'd
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November 29 2014 17:10 GMT
#1862
Well thanks for informing mafia twat
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November 29 2014 17:11 GMT
#1863
How retarded are you?
Holyflare
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November 29 2014 17:12 GMT
#1865
? What are you even talking about

Either you're town and you're informing mafia or you're mafia and still informing mafia
Holyflare
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November 29 2014 17:16 GMT
#1869
Guess who loves to point out anything they can? Mafia! Why would town ever call out someome who is claiming a role that can't ever happen???
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November 29 2014 17:17 GMT
#1871
No it doesn't it means that you informed mafia??? You're just implying you are reading my mind instead of you know. Acknowledging what I'm saying
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November 29 2014 17:18 GMT
#1873
On November 30 2014 02:16 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:
? What are you even talking about

Either you're town and you're informing mafia or you're mafia and still informing mafia

lol, superbia confirmed unable to use qt


Yes keep pointing out absolutely nothing. What benefit does that have to town to call out? Absolutely 0
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November 29 2014 17:19 GMT
#1875
On November 30 2014 02:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
Guess who loves to point out anything they can? Mafia! Why would town ever call out someome who is claiming a role that can't ever happen???

Because noone believes your claim. Maybe you are a scumvig but you certainly aren't a town one.


Which still can't shoot till n2????
?



???

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November 29 2014 17:21 GMT
#1878
On November 30 2014 02:18 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 02:17 Holyflare wrote:
No it doesn't it means that you informed mafia??? You're just implying you are reading my mind instead of you know. Acknowledging what I'm saying


But if I was mafia I would already be informed! I can't fucking inform myself. By saying "you've informed mafia" you are literally saying I am town.


Hey look. Sometimes i type whatever comes out of mind. When someone does something as stupid as saying a claim can't happen AT NIGHT when mafia are deciding their actions then I can deem that person stupid. Just because I said informed mafia doesn't mean I imply you are town. It just means I think you are stupid for doing it and habe ruined anything I was doing.

Holyflare
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November 29 2014 17:22 GMT
#1879
I've fake claimed at night in almost every game i have ever played. You also don't make the quite simple conclusion that if I was mafia I'm telling you that you ruined my own play to my own team.

That is not logical, congratulations.
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November 29 2014 17:27 GMT
#1880
In fact it almost makes me super confirmed town for a) not knowing any vigi could shoot till n2 which i would most definitely know as mafia

And

B) saying you informed mafia instead of just calling you stupid means that i don't actually know whether you are mafia or not because if i was mafia i wouldn't tell you that you informed my own team

Wow I'm super confirmed now ty!
Holyflare
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November 29 2014 17:30 GMT
#1882
Also if you make the conclusion that "if i was mafia I'd just tell them he wasn't vig in qt!" why didn't you assume i made that conclusion instead of trying to frame me as mafia?
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November 29 2014 23:36 GMT
#2029
So marv got rb'd?
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November 29 2014 23:37 GMT
#2032
Pretty interesting tbh
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November 29 2014 23:40 GMT
#2037
I like that people agreed with this geript case on me where he says I have damdred as lock mafia but quotes the post where I say "i dunno about damd at all, it will be good to pressure him". Poor reading from sentinel et al
Holyflare
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November 29 2014 23:44 GMT
#2046
I think i lnoe a mafia
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November 29 2014 23:46 GMT
#2049
On tube and low battetu so stay tuned
Holyflare
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November 29 2014 23:46 GMT
#2051
It's not sure. So. I can't yey
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November 30 2014 00:20 GMT
#2066
I neeeeed more info
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November 30 2014 00:23 GMT
#2067
Ok basically i have tracked someone to someone else and that person didn't die and they haven't claimed anything happening to them. I don't want to ruin it in case that person is blue but if marv got jk'd this person is very very likely mafia, if marv got rb'd by mafia not so much.
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November 30 2014 00:24 GMT
#2070
I'm not sure there is a watcher with me being tracker soooo ya it wouldn't make much sense
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November 30 2014 00:26 GMT
#2072
Because everyone is making teams with my name in it and I'm pretty drunk and I've been lazy all game cz i was teasing my gf all week and she was finally allowed to cum so made a day of that

Wutttt
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November 30 2014 00:26 GMT
#2073
Have at ye nubcakes
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November 30 2014 00:28 GMT
#2077
On November 30 2014 09:27 marvellosity wrote:
"finally allowed"?

kinky.


Yeh it really was
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November 30 2014 00:34 GMT
#2082
It wasn't him
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November 30 2014 00:34 GMT
#2083
OR WAS IT JAT
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November 30 2014 00:34 GMT
#2084
It wasn't
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November 30 2014 00:35 GMT
#2086
Basically I'll reveal it if something cool pops up, otherwise move along and analyse those baddies pushing me.
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November 30 2014 00:36 GMT
#2087
On November 30 2014 09:35 marvellosity wrote:
seems a bit weird you'd track anyone else tbh.


I was thinking the same thing to myself
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November 30 2014 00:56 GMT
#2104
On November 30 2014 09:42 geript wrote:
@HF. Who did the person visit?


If i say this the persn will know and can preparyfake claims. I'll just aay both names eventually
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November 30 2014 00:59 GMT
#2110
I don't really care if you believe it or not. Jat super wifoming too when i just said itigjt be a blue too

I also said i was ot geript so posted it as soon as i read
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November 30 2014 01:00 GMT
#2111
The person is 100% not a cop and I'm npt prepared to out a medic
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 01:03 GMT
#2112
Actually it probably works best if everyone in the game lists their top 2 town so i have a rough idea
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November 30 2014 01:07 GMT
#2116
Drink with meeeee
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November 30 2014 01:09 GMT
#2118
Negative

I'm a vodka whore
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 01:37 GMT
#2134
On November 30 2014 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
Actually it probably works best if everyone in the game lists their top 2 town so i have a rough idea

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November 30 2014 11:43 GMT
#2170
I regret nothing
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 18:13 GMT
#2181
Zzzzzzzz
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 18:34 GMT
#2183
i honestly cba
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 18:35 GMT
#2185
On November 28 2014 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is what i originally wrote about him in the Campus game:
Show nested quote +
My problem is the targets Superbia is proposing look really fucking good for me but otherwise his posting and activity -- compared to his earlier scum/town games does look way way way more like his scumplay. It's like he is more cocky and doesn't give any fucks about how he looks as town and in this game he seems more interested in how other people view him rather than convincing people his targets are mafia.

Applies here.


this probably means superbia is like confirmed town though, the super sure meta rule and all
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November 30 2014 18:35 GMT
#2186
On December 01 2014 03:34 justanothertownie wrote:
I wonder why...


get over yourself
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November 30 2014 18:36 GMT
#2188
? why?
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November 30 2014 18:38 GMT
#2191
On December 01 2014 03:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 03:36 Holyflare wrote:
? why?

Read his filter.


I have, there isn't anything like that meta for damdred just a lazy "follow koshi meta"?
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 18:43 GMT
#2193
well yeh it's pretty bad that rayn has a strong scum read on elvis and then gives weakish koshi meta on damd and calls him scum because of both and then never follows it up properly it's like in the background to everything he does
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 18:44 GMT
#2194
don't wanna read anything into his sn0 read though that's really weak
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November 30 2014 18:57 GMT
#2196
rayn doesn't really mention:

obi
sentinel (he talks to him once or twice and nothing more, looks fluffy)
geript (actually at all, he asks "what you think of geript" etc and defends a post against sentinel but never really comments on him)

likely a mafia in there ^^
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November 30 2014 18:57 GMT
#2197
On December 01 2014 03:54 Damdred wrote:
Meh then Ryan calls me town I think at the end.



so?
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November 30 2014 19:04 GMT
#2200
On December 01 2014 04:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 03:57 Holyflare wrote:
rayn doesn't really mention:

obi
sentinel (he talks to him once or twice and nothing more, looks fluffy)
geript (actually at all, he asks "what you think of geript" etc and defends a post against sentinel but never really comments on him)

likely a mafia in there ^^

Add yourself to that list.


dude stfu i'm an un cc'd tracker who can literally prove where either a blue or a red went in the night so just drop it and go qq in your corner that you were wrong all game
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November 30 2014 19:04 GMT
#2201
i've also decided it's actually a blue and not a red
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November 30 2014 19:07 GMT
#2204
it actually really does, you try and fling shit on me like "oh he's claiming to pull the lynch off of damdred!" but i've literally just told you i've come to the conclusion the person is blue so that adds nothing to your claim that i'm doing that

there's literally no reason for me to claim tracker unless it was real here, get over it
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November 30 2014 19:07 GMT
#2205
On December 01 2014 04:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 04:04 Holyflare wrote:
i've also decided it's actually a blue and not a red

Then you should shut up about it.


YOU are the one that keeps scum reading me when i'm a blue
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November 30 2014 19:12 GMT
#2210
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 30 2014 09:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
Basically I'll reveal it if something cool pops up, otherwise move along and analyse those baddies pushing me.

Very helpful. If you think this crap saves you then you are wrong.

On November 30 2014 09:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 09:40 marvellosity wrote:
On November 30 2014 09:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 30 2014 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
Basically I'll reveal it if something cool pops up, otherwise move along and analyse those baddies pushing me.

Very helpful. If you think this crap saves you then you are wrong.

well if he's going to get lynched and he can prove he knows someone went somewhere, it kinda does save him, unless we think he's using his only remaining scumbuddy to try to avoid being lynched...

Yeah, IF he can prove anything which I heavily doubt at the moment.

On November 30 2014 09:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Why would HF even out this saying he knows a mafia if the only possibility that the person he tracked is mafia is if he is the roleblocker which is - as was mentioned earlier - pretty unlikely given the fact that marv claimed rb.

On November 30 2014 09:47 justanothertownie wrote:
While there are several possibilities for the tracked person being a blue role...

On November 30 2014 09:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Oh, there could also be a rolecop. Hm.,, Still not very believable that you would think "this person is obviously mafia!" after tracking someone like that.

On November 30 2014 11:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 10:57 geript wrote:
Simple math. 3/4=75%. Like I'm great at reading town. But for most of you I have way more scum points and little to no town points.

Nothing to do with math since you can't be sure about this blue or red read. Putting Sn0 as top 2 town there is extremely weird. But you might actually believe this ridiculous stuff. I mean you also believe you can read HF.

On December 01 2014 04:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 03:57 Holyflare wrote:
rayn doesn't really mention:

obi
sentinel (he talks to him once or twice and nothing more, looks fluffy)
geript (actually at all, he asks "what you think of geript" etc and defends a post against sentinel but never really comments on him)

likely a mafia in there ^^

Add yourself to that list.



your collection of fuckery where you literally just harp on about me being mafia because you can't handle the alternative
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November 30 2014 19:13 GMT
#2211
why don't you just try and make me productive to read me instead of intentionally antagonising me?
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November 30 2014 19:13 GMT
#2212
like i literally start doing work after saying i cba and there you go dragging it back to saying "oh you so mafia add yourself to that list huehuehuehuehue"
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 19:15 GMT
#2214
you know there's a rber in this game because marv claimed it, there's not even a chance that if it's a mafia rber they'd leave me un rb'd in this game and if i was fake claiming i'd be randomly gambling that there is

a) no tracker in this game at all
b) that we'd blue snipe every single day so that we could put the rb on me or the person we shoot

both of those are retarded
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November 30 2014 19:16 GMT
#2216
On December 01 2014 04:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 04:12 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 30 2014 09:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
Basically I'll reveal it if something cool pops up, otherwise move along and analyse those baddies pushing me.

Very helpful. If you think this crap saves you then you are wrong.

On November 30 2014 09:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 09:40 marvellosity wrote:
On November 30 2014 09:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 30 2014 09:35 Holyflare wrote:
Basically I'll reveal it if something cool pops up, otherwise move along and analyse those baddies pushing me.

Very helpful. If you think this crap saves you then you are wrong.

well if he's going to get lynched and he can prove he knows someone went somewhere, it kinda does save him, unless we think he's using his only remaining scumbuddy to try to avoid being lynched...

Yeah, IF he can prove anything which I heavily doubt at the moment.

On November 30 2014 09:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Why would HF even out this saying he knows a mafia if the only possibility that the person he tracked is mafia is if he is the roleblocker which is - as was mentioned earlier - pretty unlikely given the fact that marv claimed rb.

On November 30 2014 09:47 justanothertownie wrote:
While there are several possibilities for the tracked person being a blue role...

On November 30 2014 09:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Oh, there could also be a rolecop. Hm.,, Still not very believable that you would think "this person is obviously mafia!" after tracking someone like that.

On November 30 2014 11:00 justanothertownie wrote:
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On November 30 2014 10:57 geript wrote:
Simple math. 3/4=75%. Like I'm great at reading town. But for most of you I have way more scum points and little to no town points.

Nothing to do with math since you can't be sure about this blue or red read. Putting Sn0 as top 2 town there is extremely weird. But you might actually believe this ridiculous stuff. I mean you also believe you can read HF.

On December 01 2014 04:02 justanothertownie wrote:
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On December 01 2014 03:57 Holyflare wrote:
rayn doesn't really mention:

obi
sentinel (he talks to him once or twice and nothing more, looks fluffy)
geript (actually at all, he asks "what you think of geript" etc and defends a post against sentinel but never really comments on him)

likely a mafia in there ^^

Add yourself to that list.



your collection of fuckery where you literally just harp on about me being mafia because you can't handle the alternative

Yeah, because I am supposed to believe without a doubt when a person that has been extremely scummy all game claims something. Anyways you didn't answer the question. The answer is I never said anything like that and you completely made that up.


i was drunk and someone said it, i thought because it was douchey and didn't make sense that you said it

sue me
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November 30 2014 19:16 GMT
#2217
On December 01 2014 04:16 justanothertownie wrote:
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On December 01 2014 04:13 Holyflare wrote:
like i literally start doing work after saying i cba and there you go dragging it back to saying "oh you so mafia add yourself to that list huehuehuehuehue"

I can say that because it is true. I already mentioned that you and rayn ignored each other basically the whole game.


because i thought he was town
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November 30 2014 19:17 GMT
#2218
On December 01 2014 04:16 justanothertownie wrote:
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On December 01 2014 04:13 Holyflare wrote:
like i literally start doing work after saying i cba and there you go dragging it back to saying "oh you so mafia add yourself to that list huehuehuehuehue"

I can say that because it is true. I already mentioned that you and rayn ignored each other basically the whole game.


well it's not true so what you're doing is being an asshole for no reason how about just leaving the thread for a while so i can actually play and solve this game now

run along and be a good boy now
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 20:51 GMT
#2222
reading through obi's posts i'm actually starting to feel more inclined that he might be mafia, it's starting to be eerily similar to his mafia game in werewolf:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467273-2p2-vanilla-werewolf-13er?user=ObiWanShinobi

it's full of non-committal crap and doesn't actually have a proper read on anything, in fact, he disagreed with marv's town read on me and then later on said "i don't see why you have a problem with hf" later on, he also off the cuff mentioned not reading rayn at all and disagreeing with marv's read on him on that basis which is super random to add in and doesn't really make him mafia but is interesting to note

complained about the lynch on gb too and keeps going back to afking and doing nothing
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 21:05 GMT
#2223
On November 28 2014 10:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't actually even think the meta things were scummy; I think they were just mistakes. I seriously doubt a scum Hf would try to push things from those games because I was paying close attention to both of them. Hell, maybe what he said is actually correct and I'm just being a dumbass.

It's the demotivation thing that bugs me.

On September 26 2014 21:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On September 26 2014 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
On September 26 2014 21:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On September 26 2014 21:42 Holyflare wrote:
On September 26 2014 21:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On September 26 2014 21:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Why do you think HF is particularly untrustworthy this game?


It feels like he's letting the thread stagnate when he's normally a super active player. Then there's the fact that he's already tried pushing someone by misrepresenting his own meta, which is basically his scum meta.

Definitely not a lynch prospect for me at the moment, but I feel like it's worth looking into.


when did this happen...?


The Haru case.

lol wtf.


how did i misrepresent any meta!? wtf


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467273-2p2-vanilla-werewolf-13er?page=8#158

That's the vibe I got from this post.

Looking at it again, I wouldn't say that misrepresentation is the correct word. The thing I'm worried about is you always push people based on "meta" that generally falls apart upon close inspection when you're mafia. I don't see much of a difference between this post and the multitude of posts you normally make when you're mafia, sans quotes.


but then looking at the difference between these 2 quotes (the first is this game and the second is when he was mafia in werewolf) maybe i'm wrong =/
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 21:12 GMT
#2224
damd why aren't you here trying to deflect things to other people or figuring things out?
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 21:18 GMT
#2225
sn0 has had a real hard on for lynching damd THE ENTIRE GAME based on something miraculous that I don't actually see
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November 30 2014 21:22 GMT
#2227
On November 29 2014 02:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
?
i'm literally sheeping marv cuz i dont know who scum is

that doesn't mean that I can't assist town by reminding them that they are being retarded and maybe we might win if they try being less retarded


this is what he's also posted after saying damdred is scum the entire game
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 21:27 GMT
#2229
On December 01 2014 06:22 Damdred wrote:
Also questioning my top town on geript. For that weird town read on Sno


why aren't i your top town as an un cc'd blue?
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 21:33 GMT
#2232
i don't want to argue
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November 30 2014 21:37 GMT
#2236
On December 01 2014 06:36 marvellosity wrote:
HF, you could tell us who you tracked whoever it was to, can't you? does that reveal anything to maf?


urgh well if the persons mafia it kinda fucks things up a bit but i tracked the person to jat
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 21:40 GMT
#2238
On December 01 2014 06:39 marvellosity wrote:
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On December 01 2014 06:37 Holyflare wrote:
On December 01 2014 06:36 marvellosity wrote:
HF, you could tell us who you tracked whoever it was to, can't you? does that reveal anything to maf?


urgh well if the persons mafia it kinda fucks things up a bit but i tracked the person to jat

seems likely there's a mafia rber just because there always is, so unless mafia have 3 power-roles you'd imagine it quite unlikely whoever you tracked was a mafia


i don't think that's true at all it could be a jk on you and a rolecop on jat
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 21:41 GMT
#2239
but whatever i already decided the person was a blue anyway
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 21:42 GMT
#2241
i don't know but it doesn't really matter
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November 30 2014 21:44 GMT
#2244
oh welllllll
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 21:53 GMT
#2251
yes that's been mentioned before
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November 30 2014 22:39 GMT
#2281
On December 01 2014 05:51 Holyflare wrote:
reading through obi's posts i'm actually starting to feel more inclined that he might be mafia, it's starting to be eerily similar to his mafia game in werewolf:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467273-2p2-vanilla-werewolf-13er?user=ObiWanShinobi

it's full of non-committal crap and doesn't actually have a proper read on anything, in fact, he disagreed with marv's town read on me and then later on said "i don't see why you have a problem with hf" later on, he also off the cuff mentioned not reading rayn at all and disagreeing with marv's read on him on that basis which is super random to add in and doesn't really make him mafia but is interesting to note

complained about the lynch on gb too and keeps going back to afking and doing nothing


i literally already said this superbia

-.-
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 22:55 GMT
#2285
you don't have to read my filter to just see the posts on pages???
Holyflare
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November 30 2014 23:18 GMT
#2292
I thought I was scum for "knowing you were town?"
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November 30 2014 23:30 GMT
#2299
On December 01 2014 08:29 Damdred wrote:
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On December 01 2014 08:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Meh. I'll see what he comes up with when he's not busy.

Is there anything to even talk about at this point? I don't see reasons to lynch anyone else until Damdred does stuff.



If I'm so scrum then there gas to be some interactions or lack thereof with my mate's look for the other scrum don't waste the day


yes you and sn0
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November 30 2014 23:44 GMT
#2306
me obviously
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November 30 2014 23:50 GMT
#2310
On December 01 2014 08:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh. Okay.

Well you claimed tracker and you said that there's probably a mafia in the people rayn didn't interact with.

Okay. Those are things.

So...What?


*clap clap*

how is me being html related to this at all? also you are being incredibly underwhelming and very like your werewolf game and it's giving me the mafia feels
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November 30 2014 23:52 GMT
#2313
you only just got that

i'm talking about the rest of the game
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November 30 2014 23:55 GMT
#2314
On December 01 2014 08:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On December 01 2014 08:50 Holyflare wrote:
On December 01 2014 08:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh. Okay.

Well you claimed tracker and you said that there's probably a mafia in the people rayn didn't interact with.

Okay. Those are things.

So...What?


*clap clap*

how is me being html related to this at all? also you are being incredibly underwhelming and very like your werewolf game and it's giving me the mafia feels


Was responding to what Damdred said. I still don't know what his angle is by bringing it up.


you are telling him to do things when he's already said he is busy till tomorrow
he is telling you to stop criticising him of doing nothing when you are also doing nothing and should be doing something because if damd is mafia you should be finding other mafia
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 00:02 GMT
#2318
what's your point? i literally just told you your filter looks like a filter where you were mafia
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December 01 2014 00:04 GMT
#2319
i'm not even sure how to take that post you just made

"why not this afk guy, excuse excuse!"

seems very deflection orientated to me
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 00:07 GMT
#2322
why should i be aware of that? it looks very similar to me and you even said at the game it's because you had no time to play that game and here we are with your excuse of little time to play this game?
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 00:09 GMT
#2324
On November 28 2014 01:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I hate how people use the lurking thing to justify understanding my underdeveloped scum meta, especially when I was working irl for most of that game.

Holyflare
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December 01 2014 00:09 GMT
#2325
this games post right there
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December 01 2014 00:14 GMT
#2331
I'm not pushing your inactivity!? I'm saying your game right now looks exactly like a game where you were mafia in.

I literally do not understand how you can interpret that in any other way?????
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 00:16 GMT
#2334
no it means when you have been active your posts have said absolutely nothing really at all
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December 01 2014 00:17 GMT
#2335
or at least nothing that shows genuine ability to look into things and make conclusions
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December 01 2014 00:22 GMT
#2336
On November 29 2014 05:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On November 29 2014 05:54 Superbia wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:53 Damdred wrote:
K I'm a vt far as I know sorry I suck at mafia in general I guess


The fuck is this.


I still want to lynch you.


what happened to this superbia suspicion by the way? it evaporated into thin air, you also questioned wave over points on superbia shortly after on how they didn't make him mafia

it's gone
it replaced into "i'm sure we can get hf lynched" and then nothing more ever
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December 01 2014 00:33 GMT
#2341
On December 01 2014 09:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Does anyone even have a good reason to townread Superbia?

I remember marv/Jat coming up with meta reasons to call him town, but I couldn't necessarily say I agreed with them. He's this really weird entity I don't really know how to approach anymore.


but he's somehow mafia and you voted for him?
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December 01 2014 00:34 GMT
#2342
also rayn probably confirmed superbia as town
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December 01 2014 00:38 GMT
#2346
uh huh
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December 01 2014 00:40 GMT
#2347
there's something off about you right now, you're far too agreeable/docile to be town obi
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December 01 2014 00:59 GMT
#2351
On December 01 2014 09:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I wish I had a gun so I could shoot you.


you could always ask to send in your kp so your dreams can come true
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December 01 2014 01:11 GMT
#2356
what are your reads?
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December 01 2014 01:15 GMT
#2358
only 999 more to go

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there you go
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 01:15 GMT
#2359
i iz productive
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 03:05 GMT
#2363
##vote obiwanshinobi
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 03:43 GMT
#2366
why on earth do you find it unlikely¬!???!?!?!?!? he's literally just fucked off instead of contributing while pressured and this game is very like his mafia game in werewolf
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 03:44 GMT
#2367
oh hardly unlikely so why damdred over obi???
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 04:24 GMT
#2370
On December 01 2014 13:05 Damdred wrote:
This is silly, and if I flip town?


"if"
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 05:20 GMT
#2375
Damdred's push for reads and his desire to keep discussion off of himself since his lynch is basically a done deal is a start, at the very least. There's some other nice stuff in his filter, like trying to calm the thread down when everybody was fighting. I looked into why we're killing him, and...Eh. I've never been a fan of associative reads. Ever.

For what it's worth, the last time Damdred was scum and got totally fucking boned like he supposedly is now, he made a case on his remaining partner out of nowhere to try and save himself. Here, it's more like he's grasping at whatever he can get his hands on and desperately trying to move the thread forward. Does it mean anything? I honestly don't know. I've played with rayn as mafia once and he got vigi'd out of nowhere on night 1; I can't say I know rayn's meta enough to say "this is exactly what he would do."


At the same time, I don't really see a reason to vote anyone else at this stage. I accept the fact that I might be getting AtE'd here and suckered into not voting him since Damdred is sort of adorable and whatnot, but I might need a bit of a push to join this wagon. I just don't feel confident on him either way, so I want to see him play today out. (Though if he doesn't step up, my vote is going to default to him just because I won't have the time to bail him out if he insists on not being super useful.)


so what you're saying is that it's nice that damd is trying to push the thread forward and you liked a lot of his filter where he tried to calm the thread down and you looked into why we want to lynch him and you don't like it and that his play now is totally different to how he played mafia but.... you want to lynch him!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? The difference between the red (you wanting to lynch him) and the green (all the reasons why he is town) is astonishing. I'm quite happy to vote you tbh.
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 06:08 GMT
#2379
On December 01 2014 14:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Did you deliberately ignore the part where I wanted him to play more so I could solidify my read on him or did you just ignore that so you could vote me?


i didn't ignore anything you wrote 3 paragraphs to say you want to vote for someone who is playing towny in your eyes and that you "need some pushing onto", what the crapola is that?

you have superbia who you've scum leaned on all day 1 who somehow became a slight town lean and then palmar and sentinel who have done nothing for you but you'd still rather vote for damd over them and you can't see your vote being anywhere else

looooool
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 06:21 GMT
#2387
Your post literally states multiple GOOD reasons for damdred to be a pretty big town read for you yet you're somehow "undecided", "could go either way", "would default lynch later".
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 06:29 GMT
#2391
On December 01 2014 15:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I called Palmar out and you jackasses said that it was scummy because I was supposedly not doing anything either.

Now I do something and FUCK HE'S NOT CALLING PALMAR OUT.

I'm not even voting Damdred right now. I said if he doesn't pick his play up and look more town, then I'd vote him. Is my vote on him now? Is my read on him solid? It isn't, and it's not, so saying that I'm just going to up and fucking lynch Damdred because I think he could be townie at the end of the day is literally stupid.


it's literally what you said though

(Though if he doesn't step up, my vote is going to default to him just because I won't have the time to bail him out if he insists on not being super useful.


all of your reasons point to him being TOWN so why does he need to "step up" when there's far far far scummier people that you should be wanting to lynch over him??? Why isn't it "damdred is the leading lynch and he's done all these cool things which point to towny damdred but everyone is afk voting damdred something is up!!!!!"
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 06:43 GMT
#2393
well don't mind me while i still vote you then
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 09:55 GMT
#2404
did you catch up and read obi's posts!?
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 09:56 GMT
#2406
i dont think ive ever seen him post something that bad
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 09:57 GMT
#2408
yes it was also bad
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 09:59 GMT
#2410
but i don't want damd to be mafia
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 10:00 GMT
#2411
sn0 probably better lynch because damd wouldn't be a role btw if he was pushed by both rayn and sn0 all game
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 10:01 GMT
#2413
w/e then
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 10:02 GMT
#2416
not particularly fussed
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 10:59 GMT
#2451
On December 01 2014 19:58 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2014 19:56 marvellosity wrote:
On December 01 2014 19:54 Palmar wrote:
On December 01 2014 19:50 marvellosity wrote:
On December 01 2014 19:48 Palmar wrote:
On December 01 2014 19:45 marvellosity wrote:
On December 01 2014 19:45 Palmar wrote:
It's a perfectly valid question and you know it, stop being obnoxious

no, it isn't?

I've already explained how over the course of my 60-70 games here, I find it literally impossible to post at the volume I've posted in this game as mafia, and this is borne out by every game I've ever played

what's hard to understand?

Yes I know, and that's the main reason I'm basically giving you a pass (it's the same with HF really, usually when he's mafia he makes a shit RL excuse and disappears, at least in 2 mafia games I remember him in).

Are you even going to consider an alternative lynch target today to Damdred? I haven't even read damdred so I have no idea if I agree with lynching him, but seems like basically everyone is fine with lynching him.

HF has posted 30+ pages as mafia

but... atm he's un-cc tracker, and he claimed he tracked someone to jat, so unless he's planning some mega-bullshit, it makes him quite likely town

Yeah I know.

Also I kinda didn't believe HF's claim, I basically thought it was just one of those bullshit claims that he does all the time.

well if a blue mysteriously dies in the night (say HF is mafia rolecop and rolecopped a blue) and HF claims it was him he tracked, then we can have this conversation again

also if HF is lying about the track, we can probably just kill him then too

HF being full of shit doesn't really make him mafia. It just makes him HF.


it would make me mafia because i've gone to deep for it to be any kind of town fake claim
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 11:01 GMT
#2453
I think that's the opposite of what you should be doing? -.-
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 17:23 GMT
#2525
i've been playing this game all wrong then
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 17:45 GMT
#2532
what does gb's lynch have to do with anything?
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 17:56 GMT
#2536
your meta of obi is terrible and wrong
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 17:56 GMT
#2537
not to mention i don't even need meta now that he posted that he wants to be convinced to lynch his town read
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 18:19 GMT
#2549
On December 02 2014 03:15 geript wrote:
Sn0 looks absolutely nothing like his town games.
Town
Neat and TIdy
Hogwarts
I'm a Cop
Witchcraft
Mafia
SMB

Here's the glaring differences I've seen from his town play:
As town he's not a complete asshat and seems to actually enjoy himself
As town he's actually makes comments and tries to be helpful regardless of blue/green
As town he wants to win but fears looking dumb more than losing

As mafia, he's a whiny asshole who trieds to add as little to the thread as humanly possible.


that one mafia game you linked looks nothing like this game at all he's far more agreeable/passive
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 18:22 GMT
#2550
but it also looks nothing like his town games
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 19:19 GMT
#2560
kinda
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 19:26 GMT
#2562
i wanna kill dis obi guy look at his vote and general lack of giving a shit + wants to kill a town read + afking all game + nub
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 19:35 GMT
#2568
I never said I don't want to kill sn0, I do actually want to kill sn0 and I picked out that post before you did. It's really more likely damd and sn0 are mafia partners though based on their interactions with each other and rayn and sn0's scum read on damd appearing out of quite literally nowhere and being very strong based on nothing.

+ that quote
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 19:36 GMT
#2570
On December 02 2014 04:33 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 04:26 Holyflare wrote:
i wanna kill dis obi guy look at his vote and general lack of giving a shit + wants to kill a town read + afking all game + nub

Yes, I'll be clear. That shit is sketch. But why are you not considering his meta whatsoever? No offense Obi, but HF he's not a great player. He'll do scummy shit. I can go back and look to see how many times he's been mislynched if that helps. I just seem him at best as the #3 best lynch for today at best.


I've literally told you your meta read on obi was shit and he's never made posts like that as town.
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 19:37 GMT
#2571
but yes I'd rather get this damd thing out of the way to clear things up because I don't want it to go on for another cycle
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 19:39 GMT
#2572
and yes I realise I have 1 too many mafia
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 19:39 GMT
#2574
that's far from likely
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 19:41 GMT
#2578
point out to me posts that were that contradictory in any of his games
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 19:42 GMT
#2579
i don't think i've ever seen him so wishy washy on reading a person to call him both town and a lynch he wants to go for
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 19:44 GMT
#2581
On December 02 2014 02:49 geript wrote:
HF, IDK about Obi's meta. The differences that I'm seeing from Obi's meta are:
1) As town he tends to give out more ideas
2) As town, he tends to play to have fun and enjoy himself which tends to level out later in the game; + townpoints
3) As town his vote tends to bounce around a bunch; + scumpoints
4) His post length is slightly more one-linery as town but that seems to change game to game

I don't think there's a good meta reason to be voting him over Damdred.


1) he has given out absolutely no ideas this game

2) he doesn't look like he's enjoying himself at all, in fact quite the opposite, he's aggravated at legitimate points and then goes back to afk when under pressure to return and do nothing when the lynch is on damdred EVEN THOUGH HE SAID DAMDRED LOOKS MORE TOWNY NOW AND HE'D DEFEND HIM IF HE DID

3) hasn't happened this game

4) it's almost exclusively 1 liners as town, never have I really seen him go wall of text wishy washy reads like this game


so it's not exactly a shit meta read, it's just you've applied it really badly to this game
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 19:46 GMT
#2584
On December 02 2014 04:43 Damdred wrote:
I'm really trying not to suck the tunnel is pretty great here though.

Me rayn sno/sent can't be mafia together I think even using my bus tendencies


why do you "think"...? it's literally impossible because you are "town"??
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 19:57 GMT
#2595
any indication...? i've literally pointed out obi who you said was very likely mafia and I don't even know the reasons that you want to lynch damd, you've wanted to lynch him since day 1 based on nothing at all
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 20:02 GMT
#2600
On December 02 2014 05:00 Sn0_Man wrote:
i'll give you obi's playing like a retard but that certainly doesn't make him scum. I've seen lots of townies "revenge-vote" people who are pissing them off and convince themselves that that person is scum even when they know that person isn't actually.

Damdred replaced a super-scummy player, continued to play gross, and got chainsaw defended very hard by flipped scum. Open and shut.


You said he was very likely scum?????? Also elvis wasn't particularly that scummy and he didn't get chainsaw defended by scum yesterday when you scum read him all day.
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 20:27 GMT
#2610
On December 02 2014 05:10 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 04:42 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think i've ever seen him so wishy washy on reading a person to call him both town and a lynch he wants to go for

You don't look for one specific thing when you meta. You look at the trend. What are the persons tendencies. And no, I'm not going to go back and look at that meta again. Proving things works both ways HF; you've said X, Y and Z about Obi. I just finished reading a bunch of pages about him. We disagree about a read; it won't be the first time and it won't be the last. Is my read strong enough that I'd stake my mafia career on it and never play again if I'm wrong? No (besides that would be against the rules). From what I recall, he's been wishy-washy before; I think I saw points of it in both his town and mafia play. I also know that generally what happens is that people forget about or drop good townreads they had early on. Marv had a decent townread on Obi early, Palmer did too. I don't remember where you were at on him. I just don't see a reason to lynch a guy because he said one super scummy scummy thing especially when half the fucking game has said something equally if not more scummy than him.


this whole paragraph is useless and poses nothing to the game when I just took the meta that you made for obi by reading his past games and applied it to this game you shouldn't be reading him anything other than mafia

he has literally only been town read for the first like 2 hours of the game AND THEN AFK'D THE ENTIRE GAME, you're saying "oh these people town read him!" who gives a crap? how is that relevant? it's not ONE scummy thing at all, it's a multitude of scummy things culminating in one scummy pile

you can't just say that you disagree without stating WHAT you disagree on

On December 02 2014 04:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 02:49 geript wrote:
HF, IDK about Obi's meta. The differences that I'm seeing from Obi's meta are:
1) As town he tends to give out more ideas
2) As town, he tends to play to have fun and enjoy himself which tends to level out later in the game; + townpoints
3) As town his vote tends to bounce around a bunch; + scumpoints
4) His post length is slightly more one-linery as town but that seems to change game to game

I don't think there's a good meta reason to be voting him over Damdred.


1) he has given out absolutely no ideas this game

2) he doesn't look like he's enjoying himself at all, in fact quite the opposite, he's aggravated at legitimate points and then goes back to afk when under pressure to return and do nothing when the lynch is on damdred EVEN THOUGH HE SAID DAMDRED LOOKS MORE TOWNY NOW AND HE'D DEFEND HIM IF HE DID

3) hasn't happened this game

4) it's almost exclusively 1 liners as town, never have I really seen him go wall of text wishy washy reads like this game


so it's not exactly a shit meta read, it's just you've applied it really badly to this game

Holyflare
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December 01 2014 20:34 GMT
#2616
me and superbia, because it does quite a lot
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 20:34 GMT
#2618
he has even less time in this game so it's got less 1 linery useless posts though
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 20:48 GMT
#2621
so why is obi not here defending damdred who he town reads and even said he would defend if that was the case?
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 20:59 GMT
#2625
His opening in werewolf is equally jokey so irrespective that adds nothing to a town or scum read btw.

Anyway, his just general lack of giving a shit and then when he gets pressured instead of his USUAL oh i aint a part of your shenanigans shit! like he usually is it's all apologetic/roll overy/submissive, he has extremely unusual reactions to things that he shouldn't

On December 01 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Okay, I can see where you're coming from.

Give me a minute.


^ never in my life would i expect a post like that from obi when i'm calling him out for something and when I actually do say this isn't right and how i'd expect him to respond and tell him what I was expecting it's only THEN that he does it when I call something else out:

On December 01 2014 15:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
##vote holyflare

Nah. You can get lynched. If you're just going to act like an idiot and nitpick at my posts then I'm just going to vote you and leave.

I've explained my thought processes and you're just like "no, lol." Gtfo.



and this reaction is totally unwarranted when it wasn't just me that was interested in this question
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 20:59 GMT
#2626
like i can't be bothered to prove things tbh I'd like a flip first he just feels "off" from interacting with him
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 21:07 GMT
#2629
go back to being afk/useless it's better that way
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 21:09 GMT
#2633
well you're trying to vote off a blue so k
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December 01 2014 21:09 GMT
#2634
while your town read dies
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 21:11 GMT
#2636
##unvote
##vote damdred
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 21:18 GMT
#2641
On December 02 2014 06:16 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 06:15 justanothertownie wrote:
I am also quite creeped out by sno and sentinel on damdred.

?


if you think damd is mafia then they'd have to be on him...? not like they can push anyone else today
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 21:21 GMT
#2644
yeh because THAT wouldn't look suspicious in the slightest when you suddenly pick up activity as a team mate gets lynched to push onto someone else
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 22:15 GMT
#2664
On December 02 2014 07:10 Superbia wrote:
Why are you only interested in the game when you're about to get lynched?


he's posted his reads this cycle before so i don't think it;s right to say he wasn't interested
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 22:45 GMT
#2707
On December 02 2014 07:43 marvellosity wrote:
Ok

##unvote
##vote sn0


My deepest respects to people who play and vote on phones


24/7 bro
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December 01 2014 22:46 GMT
#2709
wait
wait
wait
wait
wait
what?
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 22:48 GMT
#2716
i didn't track sn0 to jat
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 22:48 GMT
#2718
are you jk or doc!?
Holyflare
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December 01 2014 22:48 GMT
#2720
no it's 100000000000000000000000000000% not a cop
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December 01 2014 22:49 GMT
#2723
well it could actually be parity
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 22:51 GMT
#2733
yes indeed
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 22:53 GMT
#2738
i'm going to post who i tracked at deadline tomorrow in case
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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December 01 2014 22:54 GMT
#2741
On December 02 2014 07:53 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 07:51 Damdred wrote:
Yea can't lycnh the un cc'd doc what are you on geript

He claims targeting Marv. Marv was Rb'd. HF claimed a track to JAT. JAT hasn't claimed RB.

Track + any cop role = OP in a mini. Period. JAT has seemingly denied mason. Doc x2 = broken. Unless we assume one of HF/Sn0 is lying then things don't add up for a mini setup whatsoever.


there's watcher, parity, visiting miller
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 22:55 GMT
#2743
mafia HAS a rb + framer
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 22:55 GMT
#2745
because any sane doc would cc and trade 1 for 1
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 22:56 GMT
#2754
On December 02 2014 07:55 Palmar wrote:
Hard counterclaim for doc, I am jailkeeper.


who did you visit?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 22:57 GMT
#2764
i really don't think it would be jk + tracker
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 22:57 GMT
#2765
vs framer
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 22:59 GMT
#2771
um i'd really not lynch either doctor tbh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 22:59 GMT
#2774
On December 02 2014 07:59 marvellosity wrote:
Unvote
Vote sno


aren't you the one that said mafia always have a rber in this setup 10/10 times!?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:00 GMT
#2779
fuck you guys are retarded
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:02 GMT
#2785
so palmar has been calling out marv on day 1 saying we shouldn't probably trust him but is the jker?
marv says that there is a rb 10/10 times in this setup but wants to lynch off the doctor and not the jk cc
wut
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:04 GMT
#2791
as usual
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:04 GMT
#2794
my track may have actually been onto mafia after all then
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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December 01 2014 23:07 GMT
#2803
On December 02 2014 08:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 08:02 Holyflare wrote:
so palmar has been calling out marv on day 1 saying we shouldn't probably trust him but is the jker?
marv says that there is a rb 10/10 times in this setup but wants to lynch off the doctor and not the jk cc
wut

This is just not true, I said on day 1 that marv was probably town and we should trust his read no matter his alignment?

?


tis true what you are saying the latter half is still correct
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:09 GMT
#2808
there's no way we have a doctor and a jk... just no way
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:10 GMT
#2810
should i just reveal my check now?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:12 GMT
#2815
On December 02 2014 08:10 Holyflare wrote:
should i just reveal my check now?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:16 GMT
#2826
On December 02 2014 08:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
as I said immediately pre lynch (when I actually thought marv had hammered me)
I don't even think me flipping doc makes palmar scum. In fact, there's virtually no world where he's scum anymore as far as I'm concerned.



REALLY........................................???? 2 doctors? are you being serious?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:18 GMT
#2833
i hope we have a vigi and that vigi shoots sn0
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:19 GMT
#2835
On December 02 2014 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 08:16 justanothertownie wrote:
If I had to guess right now mafia is between Sn0, HFs check, Sentinel and maybe also Obi. So 3 or 4 people. We still have a chance.

HF could of course also be fake :/


well i was at least trying to push the lynches in directions that weren't damdred today
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:19 GMT
#2836
#MAKESMESOMAFIAYO
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:40 GMT
#2848
whoever is the real medic should just heal me btw
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:43 GMT
#2851
keeps me from dying too
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:47 GMT
#2856
palmar blocks sn0
the person i tracked is either a watcher a parity or a mafia
if he's a parity he already has a green check most likely on jat so he just checks someone mafiaish
if he's a watcher he visits ME because i'm not being protected and have an info role and am most likely to die or get rb'd by mafia
if he's mafia he's going to die anyway to a claim war tomorrow
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:48 GMT
#2857
someone mafiaish like sn0 presumably
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:50 GMT
#2861
just stick to my plan man don't put too much thought into it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:50 GMT
#2863
i doubt there will be any more than 2 millers which have already flipped in this game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:51 GMT
#2866
makes the framer redundant too
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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December 01 2014 23:52 GMT
#2870
On December 02 2014 08:51 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 08:50 Holyflare wrote:
just stick to my plan man don't put too much thought into it


The:
- Palmar RB sn0.
- Sn0 heals you.

Plan?


yes
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:55 GMT
#2874
if mafia leaves palmar alive it's like a free win anyway because kp is delivered?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:56 GMT
#2878
i wanna know what role he is too
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 01 2014 23:59 GMT
#2880
so a mafia with a vig and a rber and a framer would be op right?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 00:00 GMT
#2882
i think it's probably parity/tracker/jk vs vig/goon/framer or some other mafia variant
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 00:01 GMT
#2883
maybe gf instead of goon
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 00:02 GMT
#2884
would be kind of an interesting play between the tracker and parity but i dunno just guessing tbh
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 00:03 GMT
#2887
parity can be against a framer and a gf in this setup so it's not particularly THAT strong
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 00:03 GMT
#2888
yes
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 00:06 GMT
#2892
On December 02 2014 09:00 Holyflare wrote:
i think it's probably parity/tracker/jk vs vig/goon(gf)/framer or some other mafia variant


think this is most likely, really not sure they do actually have a rber
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 00:58 GMT
#2899
it's probably sn0 and obi or sn0 and sentinel
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 01:29 GMT
#2908
I'M always horny
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 03:11 GMT
#2912
you can't possible win now just concede
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 03:20 GMT
#2914
you just let your town read get lynched after saying that you would defend him if he looked town (which you said he did) and left your vote on a blue role gzzzzzzzz mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 03:28 GMT
#2917
convenient

really really convenient
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 03:29 GMT
#2919
this is nothing to do with the deadline, you literally left your vote wasted on an un cc'd blue for no apparent reason whatsoever (because you were butthurt really) which could easily be changed on a phone and you just didn't give a shit, you also town read damd and did nothing about it which is also nothing to do with the deadline

all you have done is afk and want to not lynch the people that should be scummiest to you
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 03:44 GMT
#2926
booooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooo
waaaaaaa waaaaaa

that's all I hear tbh

I'm going to push that you wanted to be convinced to vote your town read all game because either you're mafia and that was the biggest mafia post of all time or you are just really terrible at this game <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 03:58 GMT
#2928
that's the entire problem

everything you wrote should make you far far far far more certain than you are saying you are
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 04:11 GMT
#2930
this has absolutely nothing to do with me seeing as it's YOUR reads that YOU believed, you should know I don't particularly listen to other people, you gave about 5 reasons why you thought he was town and you definitely have talked about in previous games how you don't like to go off of association based reads (which is what the entirety of damd practically was) yet here you were saying all these things that you think about damd but then listening to the association reads instead and afking

i'm not blaming anyone for voting damd, I just didn't really care enough to stop it which is as simple as that

like you have superbia who you literally have NO self opinion of other than "i dunno how to read him" even though you said you were reading him scummy previously (the only reason he's town to us is, yet again, association) and palmar who you said had done nothing

you have no actual content based posts OTHER than damd which was a fully fleshed out town read to anybody that wasn't you
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 04:51 GMT
#2936
are you really this dense? if 3 people at the time point out something to you can you not understand that maybe it's you that looks like the fool?

me, jat, damd we all said it we all wanted you to explain it, we all thought it looked weird yet for some reason lalalalalala obiwanshinobi doesn't know wtf anyone is talking about

if I came into the thread and said

marv normally posts far less as mafia, it's pretty different here when he has 20+ pages day 1! he also is looking at interactions and finding things out compared to when he's mafia in this other game! i dunno though people said that this flipped mafia guy didn't really push him properly so maybe they are right over all this information that I KNOW from past experience to be true! HMMMM if he doesn't really post anymore even though everything from past experience says he's completely different from mafia marv i'll just default lynch him

even though I think that guy superbia was scummy day 1 i dunno... maybe i'll just forget that and in fact when i look at what my town reads say i think i'll sheep them but not really sheep them and call the guy a town leaaaaan instead because... i dunno because they said so!!!

that guy palmar has done 0 things since the game has started! yeh that's normally what mafia do when one of there team gets modkilled, they just give up and don't play! hmmmmm

nop I think that marv guy should be the lynch if it all comes down to it!

but what the fuck someone called me out on my infallible logic AND HES A BLUE I'LL THROW MY VOTE ON THAT GUY even though nobody will ever follow me and it will be wasted because quite frankly nobody will ever vote him when he's an un cc'd blue!





do you think that looks normal to anyone at all?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 04:52 GMT
#2937
and why didn't I listen to it?! it was all unproven meta that only you know about because you were talking about it

also cz you normally bad reads yo
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 05:39 GMT
#2944
as if i'm going to survive the night
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 14:33 GMT
#2954
Yehhhhh fun
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 15:21 GMT
#2956
but whyyyyyyyy
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 15:28 GMT
#2959
[image loading]
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 15:44 GMT
#2962
I don't think you've really said anything though :O :O :O :O

your town read got lynched
you voted a blue
your scum read on palmar is on someone who is blue

0 mafia is cool?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 15:48 GMT
#2964
yeh but you're mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 15:54 GMT
#2975
ignore the fact theres 2 mafia that can send kp
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 15:56 GMT
#2980
On December 03 2014 00:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Tell you what
I heal u
u track me to u
u live
we gucci


it's very likely mafia have a rber so no
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 16:10 GMT
#2988
On December 03 2014 00:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
While I don't disagree that there's a good chance maf have a roleblocker (especially vs JK/Doc/Tracker), that would mean that marv ate a doc save, a JK action and a mafia rb all in the same night.

Although I suppose if I was scum I can pretty safely claim roleblocked so ur right it doesn't make a ton of sense.

I just want to prove i'm the doc


there are not 2 doctors
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 16:15 GMT
#2989
sentinel is the chosen one
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 16:54 GMT
#3014
sn0 do you think i tracked mafia n1 then?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 16:57 GMT
#3016
but why don't you think that palmars claim is fake and that he's a mafia rber and I just tracked another blue instead? seeing as the person is going to jat then that person exclusively either has to be a mafia rolecop or town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 17:19 GMT
#3026
does jk block gf power?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 17:29 GMT
#3035
Does being roleblocked make godfathers appear mafia to checks?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 17:29 GMT
#3036
oh
lol
i sheeped the wrong colour :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 17:29 GMT
#3037
dem mind games
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 17:30 GMT
#3040
i have also used the colour blue before
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 17:31 GMT
#3042
I literally just said I was :o
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 17:33 GMT
#3047
i've always been in games where it does :/
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 17:37 GMT
#3052
here
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 17:57 GMT
#3078
haha like cora claiming a green check on mafia and a red check on town in back to the basics :D :D :D :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:03 GMT
#3092
sentinel is town hero
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:07 GMT
#3095
haha no
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:08 GMT
#3098
i tracked sn0 to nowhere so yeh you're pretty much confirmed mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:11 GMT
#3101
sn0 got rekt
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:12 GMT
#3103
i thought you were doing what superbia did since I thought you were playing badly
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:12 GMT
#3104
turns out you stuck to it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:12 GMT
#3105
what superbia said*
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:14 GMT
#3107
why is it obvious?

what's obvious is that there is absolutely 0 chance there's 2 protective town roles
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:18 GMT
#3108
I tracked superbia to jat n1
tracking superbia again n2
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:19 GMT
#3110
you've been doing it since you've claimed doctor so no
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:21 GMT
#3113
you couldn't be a more obvious mafia if you tried man ^_^
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:21 GMT
#3114
On December 03 2014 07:20 Superbia wrote:
Just save your real claim for 15s before EoN, HF. I understand that you want to confuse mafai, but rly.


it's a resolution period now they can't chance actions
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:22 GMT
#3117
Actions/votes will be accepted up to and including the posted time, but not after unless it is night, during which the deadline for actions will be 22:00 GMT (+00:00)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:23 GMT
#3121
i won't feel bad when you flip mafia at all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:24 GMT
#3123
yeh they most likely have a vig and me and palmar will die
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:25 GMT
#3126
sn0 there's literally nothing you can do to change my mind or prove otherwise, there's just absolutely 0 possibility that there are 2 protective roles, I'm sorry you got counter claimed but you said so yourself mafia palmar doesn't cc there. It's just the way the game works
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:26 GMT
#3128
you can copy and paste it all you want
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:28 GMT
#3130
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:29 GMT
#3132
he was dead.........?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:29 GMT
#3133
like wut
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:29 GMT
#3135
and jk blocks mafia rb'ers it's only in the event they target each other
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:30 GMT
#3138
no -.-
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:31 GMT
#3141
wait now i'm confused... the way shiaopi outlined his rber sequence makes it look like mafia rber can never be rb'd??? what is that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:35 GMT
#3146
well we're talking about parity which means checking your top town would be a good check for comparison
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:35 GMT
#3148
anyway

if superbia claims being roleblocked lynch him, pretty straightforward
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:36 GMT
#3149
there is literally 0 explanation for him being rb'd ever and I already feel like he's trying to set it up
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:38 GMT
#3153
no it's absolutely not paranoid

if you claim rb you are mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:43 GMT
#3165
haha sn0 is rb then
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:44 GMT
#3166
or vig
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:44 GMT
#3170
glad I tracked sn0

lolollololol

if he's doctor then his save won't go through and he won't visit anyone at all
if he's any kind of mafia role at all then he'll be visiting palmar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:45 GMT
#3173
no you can get your partner to rb palmar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 22:45 GMT
#3175
like literally if you visit ANYONE tonight you are dead
dead
dead
dead
dead
dead
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 23:16 GMT
#3219
oh i won the game ggggggg
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 02 2014 23:54 GMT
#3271
where did sentinel go? he was my n2 track :/
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 03 2014 00:01 GMT
#3279
On December 03 2014 09:00 Sn0_Man wrote:
also
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 07:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
On December 03 2014 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
you've been doing it since you've claimed doctor so no

i've been 100% honest with the thread and ur busy being an asshole its very unfun to play with.

exactly like how u started the game and ur the entire reason I never put any effort into catching scum this game fyi, so when I flip doctor eventually I hope you actually can feel bad about it instead of brushing it off as "Sn0 played badly its his fault" when its your fault.

still applies


maybe if you realised that 2 medics in 1 game was never going to happen and didn't blindly accept him as a jk as well as you being medic I would have felt differently
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 03 2014 00:02 GMT
#3281
On December 03 2014 08:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 08:54 Holyflare wrote:
where did sentinel go? he was my n2 track :/

you where he saw geript kill u


and that was superbia

sentinel just afk'd to victory!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 03 2014 00:37 GMT
#3302
HAH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 03 2014 02:34 GMT
#3332
looked like tmi to me was really strange
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 03 2014 03:24 GMT
#3335
just like my mafia meta being broken ehhhhh? :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 03 2014 03:44 GMT
#3338
well like I said, sex trumps mafia every time
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 03 2014 04:05 GMT
#3340
yeh getting modkilled as mafia is.... terrible
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 03 2014 07:56 GMT
#3343
Well bs modding doesn't count
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 03 2014 15:02 GMT
#3362
yeh I chuckled at gb
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 03 2014 22:17 GMT
#3371
he did rayn
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 03 2014 22:37 GMT
#3375
On December 04 2014 07:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 07:17 Holyflare wrote:
he did rayn

so apparently everyone else knows it other than me. why?


because we talk to each other? :o
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 04 2014 00:16 GMT
#3380
On December 04 2014 09:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 08:59 Palmar wrote:
On December 04 2014 08:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 04 2014 07:41 Palmar wrote:
On December 04 2014 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I was fucking fed up with you not doing anything Palmar.
I hope i never roll mafia with you again tbh.

It was thanksgiving and weekend man, relax?

Iceland celebrates US thanksgiving? We at least changed the date in canada.

No I celebrate US thanksgiving. I find it a brilliant festival. I'm not sure what the traditional reason for it is (I should wikipedia it at some point), but I found the idea of taking a day off to eat turkey and watch football was something that aligned with my interests.

It commemorates the gracious transfer of the ownership of the entirety of north america from the natives to the europeans.


no it's not it's juts giving thanks to a good harvest
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