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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 08:04 GMT
#961
On November 12 2014 21:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 21:34 Holyflare wrote:
Love how everyone is saying this but I'm 9-1 as mafia? :D


Oh, I'm not saying you didn't play well HF. Mafia win was totally deserved.
But after this game I think your meta was like... revealed?

If you check the obs qt, although everybody had shitty guesses, almost everyone had you as scum. I guessed you as scum just after I died lol.

But yeah, very well played

On November 12 2014 21:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 21:45 marvellosity wrote:
it's always different in-game to outside of the game. I've benefited from the same phenomenon.


Yes it is. But I posted my guess on him right after I died, so... I think I would be on the right track if I survived

I'm probably gonna play one or two mafias and enter an obs spree. Observing is easier to learn because you don't have the pressure of stablishing your innocence.

Then I'll return as the supreme mafia player from TL.

Be warned.


Post game hearthstone. Thought you said i was easy to read gb? Why are you downplaying things so much?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 08:08 GMT
#962
Also the wave qq seemed legit

##unvote
##vote gb
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 08:12 GMT
#963
Gb is reading posts completely differently to me it seems.

Thinks Superbia's latest case looks really forced. It didn't.

Thinks wave and marv convo is mafia together????? I don't even understand this at all

Thinks waves qq looks super forced when it didn't


Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 08:23 GMT
#964
Still not gonna remove jat from my list no matter how much he whines though, he hasn't really done anything this game but qq defence and then just chat about nothing in particular.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 28 2014 08:48 GMT
#965
On November 28 2014 17:08 Holyflare wrote:
Also the wave qq seemed legit

I agree. He also started doing things.
On November 28 2014 17:23 Holyflare wrote:
Still not gonna remove jat from my list no matter how much he whines though, he hasn't really done anything this game but qq defence and then just chat about nothing in particular.

Yeah, you are not leaving my shitlist either.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 08:50 GMT
#966
Yes but your reason for having me on a shit list is non existing
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
November 28 2014 08:50 GMT
#967
On November 28 2014 13:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Thanksgiving and Black Friday are making me be a lot less active than I otherwise would be. Viking genetics are probably the only thing keeping me from freezing my ass off on this line at Target.

Not sure how to feel about replacement, but I guess I'll have to filter dive Campus, since I can't use VI Titanic as evidence until it finishes. Or am I allowed to talk about lynched players in that game since their alignment is known? RN I don't feel very good about Damdred picking me and sn0 since we're not in the thread that much.

At the very least, ##Unvote


No talk about ongoing games
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 28 2014 08:59 GMT
#968
On November 28 2014 12:01 geript wrote:
JAT and GB seem really weird to me. Like jat's whole response re: Ryan's response seems nonsensical. Like he's more concerned with how people (specifically Marv) see him rather than proving things one way or another. It reminds me of panicked thinking more than "I've caught obv scum lying."

1) I DID prove things.
2) Since I was perfectly able to prove things (see 1)) there would be no reason for me to panic at any point in that as scum.

What a fucking idiotic read.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 28 2014 09:00 GMT
#969
On November 28 2014 17:50 Holyflare wrote:
Yes but your reason for having me on a shit list is non existing

It is quite the other way round but I won't argue with you about that any further.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 09:05 GMT
#970
Please do. I'm on your shit list which means I have a good chance to be mafia according to you. So please outline your read on me so you'll actually be culpable for something this game. As it stands nothing in your filter is a real stance on anything.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 28 2014 09:08 GMT
#971
On November 28 2014 18:05 Holyflare wrote:
Please do. I'm on your shit list which means I have a good chance to be mafia according to you. So please outline your read on me so you'll actually be culpable for something this game. As it stands nothing in your filter is a real stance on anything.

If you think that I haven't given reads this game then you did not read it. It is that simple.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 09:08 GMT
#972
Have you also ditched your rayn read completely even though you proved he was lying? You didn't mention anything about rayn when you were disagreeing with marvs list.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 09:09 GMT
#973
On November 28 2014 18:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 18:05 Holyflare wrote:
Please do. I'm on your shit list which means I have a good chance to be mafia according to you. So please outline your read on me so you'll actually be culpable for something this game. As it stands nothing in your filter is a real stance on anything.

If you think that I haven't given reads this game then you did not read it. It is that simple.


Yes please stop making useless posts like this where you halter the discussion all over again and get to actually discussing your scum read on me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 09:10 GMT
#974
I've read the game, I don't feel like you have had any original thoughts and you haven't done much. I don't care if you disagree because that's what I'm reading.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 28 2014 09:11 GMT
#975
On November 28 2014 11:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
One of the first things JAT said resonated with me (even though I don't trust JAT either):
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 18:19 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 27 2014 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
On November 26 2014 23:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Disclaimer: I won't be able to be as active as I was in FFL 2 which was ridiculous. I am currently working fulltime and all I had to do while that game happened was studying at home. The deadline is generally really really nice but I might miss it during the weekend.



only time he can't make deadlines are weekends deadline is really really nice


where is jat? answer is mafialand qqing that he rolled mafia in here with a full time job

On November 27 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
how do I not have a case on either?

One player said the deadlines were PERFECT for him and then didn't turn up when ordinarily he'd be enthusiastic about the game starting and at least post something.

Another player literally didn't want to comment on anything I said and has only talked about russia (which is fine on its own) but he was all defensive when I told him to comment on it or he was next


1) Since when am I afraid to post as scum? Horseshit. The lineup in heavyweight wasn't really that much worse than this one.
2) If I was there in the mafia qt why would I not simply post something in the thread. Ah, I forgot. Cos I'm afraid...
3) I wasn't around for game start in several of my towngames. The only thing you can conclude from that is that I am absent/asleep whatever.

Yes, I said the deadline is nice for me. Because it is. Often times deadline is much later than this midnight deadline for me. It makes it possible to stay up when it gets important but I don't see why you think I would keep myself awake after midnight just for the start of the game.

On November 27 2014 10:27 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2014 10:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
1) Meh. Mafia always want to open early anyway since it becomes harder to open the longer the game goes on, so I don't see how you can draw such a definitive conclusion about someone not being here early. At the very least, this is how I would do it, so I don't put much stock into it.

2) Defensiveness isn't really a scumtell when you're threatening to lynch people off of very little. I fail to see how what you said dictates his alignment.


not when role pm's get sent out an hour early because that's a whole hour of a mafia pm being left to sink in and so he'd just give up and go to bed early at rolling mafia in this probably stacked game

i'm almost positive the first message in the qt is like "we're so fucked"

look at your response, i ask you to comment on something you are reluctant but end up doing it anyway
look at his response, i ask him to comment on it and he gives a VERY generic "i dont vote on ANYONE EVER early" response and then criticises me and leaves

what good natured towny wants to shut down any productive discussion even if it's misplaced? the answer is no good natured towny ever

I am not believing for a second that this is your read on me.
On November 27 2014 11:11 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2014 11:00 geript wrote:
No my question is valid HF. Do you really think there's a scum team that doesn't include any of those 5? Like there's at least 6 people in this game who are wholly capable of hard carrying as scum. Odds of no vets being mafia, aka scrub scum team, is quite low. idk if shaopi rng's or get balances. Like there are only a handful of people who shit bricks when they roll mafia.

Look HF. I'm not saying your point on him not being around considering deadline isn't interesting. My point is the scared shitless argument is crap and you know it.


no it's irrelevant because unless all the vets are mafia they will be against some vets and therefore be fucked

if i was mafia with marv/me/wave or w/e i would still say fuck this shit as soon as i entered and be super demotivated and i probably would have just gone to bed, heck just look at all the pre-game hype about people wanting to not roll mafia

the "we're fucked" thing is totally not the point I am making at all it was just to counter obi's trivial point about jat being motivated to post as mafia when that wouldn't probably be the case at all with pm's an hour+ before deadlines

I also don't believe this at all.

So Holyflare is pushing something that isn't scummy really hard here. If he keeps doing that then he is probably mafia by his own selfmeta.

Oh, btw. don't you think that is much more scummy to be here in the thread without posting anything even remotely useful than to be completely absent? Like marv did for example?

Yes, this post is all defense and the beginning of a stupid shitfight with HF, but it's mostly true. ESPECIALLY the part where he says he doesn't believe HF's read of him.

If you'll recall I said:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 10:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
You're trying too hard bbygrl


As far as forced things go, this whole deal of his looked SUPER forced. Of course the problem becomes HF can certainly do that shit as town, and what does it hope to gain him as scum? On the other hand there are definitely blatant lies within HF's early posting (such has himself being demotivated if he rolled scum---yeah he gets a little annoyed sometimes but ALWAYS plays it out. Like me. And he would NEVER let it show in thread.) Same problem though---I've seen him lie as town before (can't remember if he's aware he is doing it or not even when I point it out to him.)

Again conclusion is I don't feel like delving into this shit and we should be lynching him.

I like this post and am actually surprised that noone else ever said something about that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 28 2014 09:13 GMT
#976
On November 28 2014 18:08 Holyflare wrote:
Have you also ditched your rayn read completely even though you proved he was lying? You didn't mention anything about rayn when you were disagreeing with marvs list.

No, I explicitly said that I agree with the rest of his reads which includes rayn. I proved that he was lying but it would be such a stupid move for him to do as mafia to try and attack me with that and then admit that he was wrong afterwards that I have trouble seeing this world.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 09:14 GMT
#977
Like me making a case about you with 0 posts and then attacking you and dropping the attack afterwards?

#dounlestandards
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 28 2014 09:15 GMT
#978
#doublestandards :p

And if you say "oh but you're still attacking me" that also applies to rayn too
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 28 2014 09:15 GMT
#979
On November 28 2014 17:23 Holyflare wrote:
Still not gonna remove jat from my list no matter how much he whines though, he hasn't really done anything this game but qq defence and then just chat about nothing in particular.

This is how i feel aswell. It's -- for some reason -- impossible to make him talk about anything you want to.
It's like marv but worse.
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 28 2014 09:15 GMT
#980
On November 28 2014 18:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 18:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 28 2014 18:05 Holyflare wrote:
Please do. I'm on your shit list which means I have a good chance to be mafia according to you. So please outline your read on me so you'll actually be culpable for something this game. As it stands nothing in your filter is a real stance on anything.

If you think that I haven't given reads this game then you did not read it. It is that simple.


Yes please stop making useless posts like this where you halter the discussion all over again and get to actually discussing your scum read on me.

What if I don't? I think I will just ignore you and your incessant nitpicking on minor things.
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