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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 27 2014 16:36 GMT
#541
On November 28 2014 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 28 2014 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jat why didn't you vote for me when you said i was lying?

Marv was berating me that it wasn't scummy/I rarely vote early in the day anyways.

On the first part this sounds like you need to wait for marv to give his opinion before you can make a judgement call. Why?

Are you really attacking me for respecting marvs opinion? What kind of bullshit line of questioning is this...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 27 2014 16:37 GMT
#542
marv is as capable as anybody else is of rolling scum
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 27 2014 16:38 GMT
#543
On November 28 2014 01:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 28 2014 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 28 2014 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jat why didn't you vote for me when you said i was lying?

Marv was berating me that it wasn't scummy/I rarely vote early in the day anyways.

On the first part this sounds like you need to wait for marv to give his opinion before you can make a judgement call. Why?

Are you really attacking me for respecting marvs opinion? What kind of bullshit line of questioning is this...

No i am not. You seemed to have a some sort of an opinion on couple of things, related to me.
Yet you could not lay them out before marv commented on them first. That has nothing to do with respecting / not respecting one's opinion.
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 27 2014 16:38 GMT
#544
On November 28 2014 01:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
marv is as capable as anybody else is of rolling scum

Another very impressive observation. Has nothing to do with what I said though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 27 2014 16:39 GMT
#545
On November 28 2014 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 01:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 28 2014 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 28 2014 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 28 2014 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jat why didn't you vote for me when you said i was lying?

Marv was berating me that it wasn't scummy/I rarely vote early in the day anyways.

On the first part this sounds like you need to wait for marv to give his opinion before you can make a judgement call. Why?

Are you really attacking me for respecting marvs opinion? What kind of bullshit line of questioning is this...

No i am not. You seemed to have a some sort of an opinion on couple of things, related to me.
Yet you could not lay them out before marv commented on them first. That has nothing to do with respecting / not respecting one's opinion.

There is a difference between "I could not" and "I did not".
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 27 2014 16:40 GMT
#546
Yeah so why did you not?
You are dodging the question.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 27 2014 16:42 GMT
#547
Anyways i am going off for a while.
I am getting angry because JAT is not giving clear answers to like anything in this game...
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 27 2014 16:43 GMT
#548
I was at work. I was not in the thread when marv replied to you, rayn.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
November 27 2014 16:44 GMT
#549
On November 28 2014 01:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Anyways i am going off for a while.
I am getting angry because JAT is not giving clear answers to like anything in this game...

If you start asking clear questions that aren't loaded with bullshit I might be able to give you clear answers. Until then you will have to work with what I am giving you.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 27 2014 16:47 GMT
#550
Oh I'm here, marvy. Sadly it won't be me to relieve your boredom. Don't feel like posting much/don't have much useful to say and see no reason to move my vote so I'm content to lurk.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 27 2014 16:51 GMT
#551
Like you'd ever have a reason to move your vote
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 27 2014 16:53 GMT
#552
It's turkey day so I'm holding off with hard hitting analysis until tomorrow.
Computer says mafia
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 27 2014 16:54 GMT
#553
Lots of activity. Sweet.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 27 2014 16:55 GMT
#554
Not letting gb off for his shit geript read into sheeping geript
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 27 2014 16:55 GMT
#555
On November 28 2014 01:51 Holyflare wrote:
Like you'd ever have a reason to move your vote

True.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 27 2014 16:57 GMT
#556
On November 28 2014 01:55 Holyflare wrote:
Not letting gb off for his shit geript read into sheeping geript

That was weird. Like too easy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 27 2014 16:58 GMT
#557
Well marv said he did it woth robik in another game and maybe he thought it was futile arguing with me about it
Elvis!
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany396 Posts
November 27 2014 17:08 GMT
#558
Rayn because in the past that's exactly what I did and people disliked it. So this time I gave a weak read they won't complain about.
other people turn around and laugh at you - if you say - that these are the best days - of their lives. - Blur
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 27 2014 17:08 GMT
#559
On November 28 2014 01:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 01:21 Superbia wrote:
On November 28 2014 01:21 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 28 2014 01:17 Superbia wrote:
On November 27 2014 21:56 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 27 2014 21:52 marvellosity wrote:
GB, what's different about Elvis compared to Superbia?


Superbia is underwhelming, but at least he didn't post images and didn't sound like he was trying to stop traction of any discussion. He is not to be overlooked, nonetheless, because he is also another a big walls poster


Elaborate on this GB. Specifically, where did you get the idea that I'm a "big walls poster"?


From the big walls of post you make


Which games?


Aww don't make me search for it...

Fanfic? I think fanfic.

You mostly post big lists


You were an active part of last game's OBS QT, a game in which I was mafia and I survived the entire game. But rather than draw any correlations between my play that game and this game, you come up with a vague meta-read of "Superbia is a big list poster", which you can't even properly pin point to a fucking game, let alone an alignment. The fact that you were OBSing my scum-game from a couple of days ago, try to give a half-assed "read" on me based on "meta", during which you don't even refer to the scum-game I played a couple of days ago, is scummy as fuck.


Let's move on to the rest of your game so far:

On November 27 2014 12:40 GlowingBear wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 10:27 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2014 10:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
1) Meh. Mafia always want to open early anyway since it becomes harder to open the longer the game goes on, so I don't see how you can draw such a definitive conclusion about someone not being here early. At the very least, this is how I would do it, so I don't put much stock into it.

2) Defensiveness isn't really a scumtell when you're threatening to lynch people off of very little. I fail to see how what you said dictates his alignment.


not when role pm's get sent out an hour early because that's a whole hour of a mafia pm being left to sink in and so he'd just give up and go to bed early at rolling mafia in this probably stacked game

i'm almost positive the first message in the qt is like "we're so fucked"

look at your response, i ask you to comment on something you are reluctant but end up doing it anyway
look at his response, i ask him to comment on it and he gives a VERY generic "i dont vote on ANYONE EVER early" response and then criticises me and leaves

what good natured towny wants to shut down any productive discussion even if it's misplaced? the answer is no good natured towny ever


I think holyflare is wrong. Believing JAT would be here doesn't makes him scum. I understand what HF says but that's too much WIFOM.
I find weird the "we are fucked" thing. I can't understand how HF got to this conclusion.
Keeping up a bad argument isn't scummy. I can see townie coming from that perspective. I also can see mafia. It means his post is null unless it is connected to some further behaviour.s


I hate this post. You basically discredit HF's case but draw zero conclusions from it. What's the point? Why do you feel a need to comment on the case if you have nothing to add and JAT hasn't even posted yet? How does this help town? Protip: it doesn't.


On November 27 2014 21:45 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 08:31 geript wrote:
Had what do you think of Sn0's opening? Like I dislike how awkward and unfunny it is. It feels worse to me because I remember him as a player who likes to fuck around a lot in the beginning. It was just a hit it and quit it thing. I also dislike how uncomfortable it comes off as in his response. Conversely though, he's a little dgaf which can be towny.


I don't like this post. He makes it sound like snow is mafia for being unfunny, which, obviously, isn't a mafia trait. Snow likes to fuck around, well, that's what he did. If he had little participation, that's also not alignment indicative.

Funny thing though is that geript concluded his thoughts saying that snow has a town trait.

Which makes geripts post useless. Content less.


Yet previously you say:

On November 27 2014 12:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 08:31 geript wrote:
Had what do you think of Sn0's opening? Like I dislike how awkward and unfunny it is. It feels worse to me because I remember him as a player who likes to fuck around a lot in the beginning. It was just a hit it and quit it thing. I also dislike how uncomfortable it comes off as in his response. Conversely though, he's a little dgaf which can be towny.


I like and hate this post at the same time.


What did you like about the post before? Because you just said that the post had no content and was useless. Moreover, you manage to make two posts about the same fucking post and manage to draw zero conclusions from it.

On November 27 2014 21:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 21:52 marvellosity wrote:
GB, what's different about Elvis compared to Superbia?


Elvis jokes were off and he mostly cluttered the thread when discussion was getting traction. Disrupting the discussion with spam felt mafiaish
Also, in his last game, Elvis mostly posts only big wall of text with paranoid thoughts. He didn't do it here.


Again, you reach zero actual conclusions here. Is Elvis mafia for doing this? Do you feel like a newer player would be trying to actively disrupt the game in which there are a lot of veterans as scum?

Then GB goes for some weak fucking pushes on Elvis, followed by:

On November 27 2014 22:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 22:41 Holyflare wrote:
On November 27 2014 22:38 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 27 2014 22:36 Holyflare wrote:
jat did the same thing about me when he said "i dunno if hf pushing this is scummy or towny starting discussion" but you haven't seemed to bring that up at all. You did the same thing to me too, it's irrelevant whether it's about individual posts or overall posts it's wishy washy and has no conclusions. If you think it's alignment indicative then it's indicative about your alignment too.


I've already explained what's different between my post and geripts...


................................. you want me to say whether it's alignment indicative. If I say your post is wishy washy and you tell me "yeh but geript's is too but what do you think that makes him?" then you are implying that wishy washy means an alignment when it doesn't. I've told you I liked what geript has said so quite clearly being wishy washy means nothing in that context.


That's the problem. I've said my post isn't wishy washy because I've brought things like "this guy looks town, I don't like this", period.

I believe being wishy washy is alignment indicative, unless you have specific meta read on someone.

##Vote: geript


And a couple of minutes later:

On November 27 2014 22:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Bah.
Boring.

##Unvote
##Vote: Superbia


What the fuck? Why aren't you voting on Elvis, who you should have the bigger scumread on (judging by your posts)?


TL;DR: GB's non-spam posts reach 0 conclusions. GB's meta-read is shit-tier, and it shouldn't be. GB isn't doing anything for town. GB is mafai.

##Unvote
##Vote: GlowingBear
Minimal effort.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 27 2014 17:08 GMT
#560
On November 28 2014 01:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I'm here, marvy. Sadly it won't be me to relieve your boredom. Don't feel like posting much/don't have much useful to say and see no reason to move my vote so I'm content to lurk.

well, you've made me happier with my vote I guess?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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