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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 28 2014 20:39 GMT
#1049
On November 29 2014 05:34 rsoultin wrote:
Fair enough, thanks. You've already explained HTS as I recall and slam is an obvious policy lynch. So you just don't have many scum reads I guess?


I'm the only person that wants to lynch slam at the moment so I wouldn't say it's obvious. And I'm leaning town on everyone except meat, slam, and HTS. breshke would look bad if he didn't claim rb but that alone is enough not to vote him today.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 28 2014 20:49 GMT
#1051
On November 29 2014 05:44 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 09:33 sicklucker wrote:
If your so sure of mine and dandreds interactions how did you miss the posts where he asked me If I thik breske is scum and I said no? Because I have yet to call breske scum the worst I called him was "weird"


Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 09:34 sicklucker wrote:
I already found holes in meats story I dont like him at all.


At some point he claims me and dandred have really weird interaction and suspects us of being in a scum team (lol) Then he doesint remember that the reason dandred layed off me is because I didnt ever give breske a scum read. He also says he thinks im scum because I think breskes scum. If he was so sure of mine and dandreds interactions but misses a huge part of it. That is why I said I found holes in his story.

Then he has really bad reasons for voting me and he casts the useless vote that ive said is usually mafia if both horses are town. This is my reason for scum reading him anyway.


I can follow that.

What do you think about HTS? What do you think his most memorable post has been?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 28 2014 20:58 GMT
#1059
On November 29 2014 05:52 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:28 batsnacks wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:26 rsoultin wrote:
Bats, your three please. I think that's weird. You didn't take indirect, so I'll ask you directly now.


slam
hts
???


No meat? really I find this really suspicious. Is this a two mafia vote? I dont see how anyone can logically want slam out over meat.


I didn't want to put 2 afk people in that list. I think meat is scummy and I think he's a great lynch. I like voting slam better right now though because everyone seems to think meat is a great lynch.

What do you think about HTS?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 28 2014 21:01 GMT
#1060
On November 29 2014 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
Have to agree with SL, lightning. Your timidity has me wondering if you do have a role. Since it's obviously not a town one...

You lose nothing participating if you're town. So what gives?


SL is almost certainly town imo
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 28 2014 21:07 GMT
#1062
I misread your post I thought you were calling lightning timid.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 28 2014 21:07 GMT
#1063
I mistyped my post I thought you were calling SL timid.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 28 2014 23:51 GMT
#1079
On November 29 2014 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
Like I might be reading hts for the wrong reasons. Hes probably the player I need to most reread since im town tunneling him and barely reading his posts. I dont think hes a lynch for today ever tho.


So what do you think about HTS?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 19:42 GMT
#1180
HTS definitely mafia

##unvote
##vote: Half the Sky
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 19:48 GMT
#1183
On November 30 2014 04:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 04:42 batsnacks wrote:
HTS definitely mafia

##unvote
##vote: Half the Sky

Why you say HTS is definitely mafia? Explain please.


On November 29 2014 03:02 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 02:55 kushm4sta wrote:
bats help me figure out which of these sneaky tryhard sonnabitches are scum...
is it htf or something?


I think it's HTF. I never believe his reasons for things I think he writes them just to write them.

It's not like SL where there is a logical, if wrong, train of though that I can follow easily.

And I feel like mafia is voting me right now because it's a good opportunity to look productive.


Plus the way he voted kush is really scummy. I don't think kush looks great d2 but if I were to vote kush the reasons I would give would look nothing like the reasons HTS is giving.

If I'm voting kush all I would say is "he isn't posting enough."
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 19:48 GMT
#1184
On November 30 2014 04:47 rsoultin wrote:
Not HTS, lol.

I'm not going to consolidate just for the sake of consolidating right now. Some haven't been online. Kush and Hope are supposedly still reading. We have over 24 hours before EoD. If people want to make their case for why they're voting for who, I'm down for that.


eod is in 2 hours
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 20:36 GMT
#1193
On November 30 2014 05:28 rsoultin wrote:
Just feels too easy. The case against him is minimal. Everyone is way too willing to jump on it. HTS isn't a huge town read for me, if at all, but at the same time it seems weird that so many people would be eager to push him based off so little. And eh, bugger, you're right about the time. I was reading the time the mod said was left but it obviously wasn't updated.

I really, truly believe lightningstrike is the best lynch here, but if I have to go with one of the two pushes we have moving now (kush or hts) I'm going for kush.


The case against kush is weaker imo
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 20:44 GMT
#1197
On November 29 2014 14:42 rsoultin wrote:
- first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs-
- asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post
- tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke
- changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted
- gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post)
- jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks
- calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred)
- says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats
- says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town
- repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?)


Less than half of these are alignment indicative, and that's being generous.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 20:45 GMT
#1198
ebwop actually only the last point is alignment indicative
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 20:46 GMT
#1200
On November 30 2014 05:46 Damdred wrote:
The way rsoultin is going about this and hammering Kush like he did really feels scummy to me


Yeah
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 20:58 GMT
#1208
Okay

- first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs-

Not scummy. Voting someone who is trying to policy lynch you is a pretty reasonable response... you seem to think so too.


- asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post


Asking a question isn't scummy. Neither is not reading the thread. Either alignment can ask questions, either alignment can miss something in the thread.

- tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke

It was scummy. omgusing is usually scummy.

- changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted


Kush changing votes is not scummy, especially if he gives reasons when asked. Giving reasons when asked is actually townie.

- gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post)


Arguing for who you think is town is not scummy.

- jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks


Kush gave those reasons BEFORE damdred's train.

- calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred)


Not providing reasons for reads is bad.

- says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats


So what? You're just paraphrasing what happened. This isn't a reason.

- says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town


Kush voted me because I was policy voting him. I unvoted kush, which is why kush voted me. Therefore kush no longer has a reason to vote me. This is a perfectly logical procession of events.

- repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?)


Yeah this is scummy.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 21:05 GMT
#1214
On November 30 2014 06:02 rsoultin wrote:
For clarification, bats, that actually wasn't a list of scummy behavior. That was me going back through his filter to find what little content was in it. My main issue with kush is that he has so little content, and he was claiming he wouldn't be playing for the rest of the day.


bolded: bullshit

If that wasn't a list of scummy behavior then you literally had no reason to vote kush before you did. Now you're voting him because he's lurking d2? What about meatpudding who lurked d1 AND d2?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 21:08 GMT
#1217
ebwop @rsoultin

Even if that wasn't intended to be a list of scummy behavior. Paraphrasing large sections of the game for no reason is extremely scummy.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 21:12 GMT
#1219
ebwop2 BUT that was intended to be a list of scummy behavior. Look:

I posted this:
On November 30 2014 05:44 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 14:42 rsoultin wrote:
- first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs-
- asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post
- tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke
- changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted
- gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post)
- jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks
- calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred)
- says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats
- says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town
- repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?)


Less than half of these are alignment indicative, and that's being generous.


You responded with this:
On November 30 2014 05:46 rsoultin wrote:
You may be right bats. -shrugs- But as usual you're not backing up your claims so, okay?


Then I destroyed your post:
On November 30 2014 05:58 batsnacks wrote:
Okay

Show nested quote +
- first post nothing but a vote on bats. but bats had policy voted him, so -shrugs-

Not scummy. Voting someone who is trying to policy lynch you is a pretty reasonable response... you seem to think so too.

Show nested quote +

- asks me why I said bats and oats were "scummiest", claiming I provided no reasoning when it was right in the post


Asking a question isn't scummy. Neither is not reading the thread. Either alignment can ask questions, either alignment can miss something in the thread.

Show nested quote +
- tells breshke sl is scummy for "omgus"ing breshke

It was scummy. omgusing is usually scummy.

Show nested quote +
- changes vote to damdred for tone and bad defense of "shit pushes", only giving reasoning 30 minutes later, after he's prompted


Kush changing votes is not scummy, especially if he gives reasons when asked. Giving reasons when asked is actually townie.

Show nested quote +
- gets into argument with oats in bat's defense for the HTS read (argument lasts 1 post)


Arguing for who you think is town is not scummy.

Show nested quote +
- jumps on dicksmash train led by damdred (what was that before about shit pushes?) presenting evidence of "nitpicking" and "white knighting", votes dicks


Kush gave those reasons BEFORE damdred's train.

Show nested quote +
- calls sl bad at the game for not providing reasons for his reads (nother pot calls kettle moment given his earlier vote on damdred)


Not providing reasons for reads is bad.
Show nested quote +

- says again in all caps that dicks should be lynched day 1, two separate times in all caps, followed by a list of scum 5 ppl long (including Damdred in 3 spot, so again, why jumping on that train?) and defends bats some more, also citing one of the reasons to push dicks is because of his scum read on bats


So what? You're just paraphrasing what happened. This isn't a reason.
Show nested quote +

- says lets lynch bats (sarcasm, maybe?) then turns right around and says he's not bussing, he's only defended bats after dicks flips town


Kush voted me because I was policy voting him. I unvoted kush, which is why kush voted me. Therefore kush no longer has a reason to vote me. This is a perfectly logical procession of events.
Show nested quote +

- repeated comments he won't be able to do anything today and so scum wins (with this much time left before EoD?)


Yeah this is scummy.


Then you changed your mind:
On November 30 2014 06:02 rsoultin wrote:
For clarification, bats, that actually wasn't a list of scummy behavior. That was me going back through his filter to find what little content was in it. My main issue with kush is that he has so little content, and he was claiming he wouldn't be playing for the rest of the day.





You ABSOLUTELY intended for that to be a list of scummy behavior.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 21:14 GMT
#1221
We should make an effort to vote him

##unvote
##vote: rsoultin
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 29 2014 21:15 GMT
#1224
On November 30 2014 06:15 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2014 05:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
kush almost literally doesnt play as scum. He also busses like a mofo. He has done neither of these things this game.


Hopeless, question, operative words in bold.

I think Kush has played some here prior to the middle of D2, but others are calling him out that he's not playing enough. Define what you mean as "almost literally doesn't play as scum". As in just AFK to the point of being a policy lynch?


HTS you should vote rsoultin if only as a means of self preservation because if we can't lynch him we're probably going to switch back to you.
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