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On November 30 2014 04:47 rsoultin wrote: Not HTS, lol. I'm not going to consolidate just for the sake of consolidating right now. Some haven't been online. Kush and Hope are supposedly still reading. We have over 24 hours before EoD. If people want to make their case for why they're voting for who, I'm down for that. Tell me who you would then, and why not HTS | ||
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On November 30 2014 05:28 rsoultin wrote: Just feels too easy. The case against him is minimal. Everyone is way too willing to jump on it. HTS isn't a huge town read for me, if at all, but at the same time it seems weird that so many people would be eager to push him based off so little. And eh, bugger, you're right about the time. I was reading the time the mod said was left but it obviously wasn't updated. I really, truly believe lightningstrike is the best lynch here, but if I have to go with one of the two pushes we have moving now (kush or hts) I'm going for kush. Does it have to be hard to catch scum? What is wrong about the case exactly? Theres currently three people on it with kush still being lynched not sure if this part is true. Then you tell me why kush is scum | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467155-devils-riddle-mafia Someone tell me, how the hell kush is town in these games? | ||
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##Vote Rsoultin | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:15 Half the Sky wrote: Hopeless, question, operative words in bold. I think Kush has played some here prior to the middle of D2, but others are calling him out that he's not playing enough. Define what you mean as "almost literally doesn't play as scum". As in just AFK to the point of being a policy lynch? Kush literally does nothing, if you call him out all he does is come in make promsies and is antagonistic towards everyone does not try to push lynches except on his scum mates and never tries to solve the game OR give reads he never does any of that as scum | ||
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hes been actively trying to figure something out when hes here, he shoudln't be lynched rsoul has been scummy at eod lets go | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:21 Hopeless1der wrote: so i forget. Why did everyone stop reading batsnacks as scum? My towncircle is actually all the vets which just seems wrong on principle. This is strange yea there has to be a scum in the vets, but maybe not rng could of hated the newbies it feels weird | ||
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On November 30 2014 05:57 Half the Sky wrote: Let's talk criteria. Here we go. I want to make sure you understand where I'm coming from here. 1 Gaps in posting/support - First we have the vote on DSMI. When he first listed his reads, he was on his phone, so he was brief, fine. But I'm surprised to not see further extended support/followup for his reads. He called out the following - LS, Rasputin, Oats, and you. There was no followup for LS and Rasputin, and none regarding you, even though Oats, questioned it (see #2) - Because there was no followup, it appeared a massive gap between how we went from voting you to voting DSMI on what appeared to be weaker evidence from him - namely nitpicking. - If Kush used "nitpicking" to vote DSMI, why not vote Oats, who was also guilty of nitpicking? - His defence of Bats was that reads on d1 are poor (or fluid as he said), and that other people haven't been giving reads. Then he admits that "others have been worse" but somehow, before, he had a "stronger read" on you about your shit pushes. To me something doesn't add up. - Why did I buy into Kush's post? Because of 1) urgency on DSMI's part posting and 2) filtering DSMI's comments relative to others. I didn't take Kush at face value. I checked before I changed votes. - Kush pushed the vote before you did on DSMI. - To extend on the D1 argument, it also doesn't make sense to me that he would say D1 is fluid and then expect us to say that D1 proves him innocent. As in we are good enough to read him as town from D1 actions. If that was a troll comment, see #5. - Conclusion - There are enough gaps and contradictions here, and I revisited Kush's post because he sold me an argument that proved wrong. Urgency was wrong - he flipped town. So I looked closer at the other points I was sold. 2 Dodging questions - He dodged Oats asking him about the Damdred read. I think he might have dodged one more in there, but I stopped at page 27 when I was double checking that. 3 AFK issue - He admitted this. Bad as alakaslam, no but taking it at face value, it appeared a huge cop-out, particularly with the D1 argument. We're past Thanksgiving. 4 Forgettable - As I said before, I recall Bats' filter more than his, although Bats' filter was 2x as much, so there's that. 5 Spam/trolling - This is applicable more to Bats than Kush, although Kush had a few of these as well. But I find spam/trolling/etc a problem because it just makes it more difficult for the town. There's more to weed through. Scum would want to make it difficult for the town. I won't speak for others but it's not always easy to tell who is trolling/serious/not serious etc when I'm reading this stuff. - Again as I said before, meta holds nothing to me. If you think I'm taking someone too seriously, call me on it. I took Breskhe too seriously early on, and I stood corrected. Kush, if you want to answer these, I'm all ears. DSMI was decently scummy i'm not going to hold this against kush, the content of his case even though it was smaller than my case was just as good. It might not of been as convincing to some but DSMI was a huge question mark that was acting scummy so I can't fault him here, kush always has a hard on for me to he generally can tone read me etc preetty well and he always thinks i'm scummy early so I usually don't hold thata against him and then the jump off me. Plenty of people dodge questions though, its not necessarily a scummy trait it can be scummy but doesn't have to be. The other stuff i'm not sure, i can remember kush push and some other things hes done but nothing that looks overtly scummy from memory. I disagree slightly with spamming to be scummy i'd rather everyone be spammy gives us more content to work with but meh. | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:34 rsoultin wrote: -shrugs- I have. I still would lynch lightningstrike for playing the frightened rabbit I don't want to get lynched as a vanilla town so I'm not going to participate card, I still don't like how easy it was for Damdred to convince all the currently present players to flip on HTS and then claims it wasn't by citing the absent players still on kush as an example. I could keep pointing fingers or repeating myself, but I've made my opinions/reads pretty clear throughout the game. SL and breshke are still my strongest town reads. Why would I have a read on you already? lol Slam was completely null other than the AFK, which apparently was for personal reasons. Anyone trying to push you right now would be odd to me. Oats was on hts before I was, I voted, then bats voted as he didn't want a kush lynch. Where are these imaginary people Damdred convinced to jump on hts? | ||
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