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On November 28 2014 05:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 05:21 batsnacks wrote:On November 28 2014 05:12 rsoultin wrote:Now, bats. You saying that you're town isn't evidence that you're town lol. If it's weak you're going to have to give us better than that, at least for me to say yeah, makes sense.  "rabble rabble" Pick something either oats or Trfel has said about why I'm scummy that you agree with. I was admittedly overwhelmed by the sheer amount of text when I first got on...I think we were on page 12 or something...and you and Oats going back and forth irritated me tbh lol. But going back through your filter, I'm not really seeing what everyone else seems to be seeing. You have given reads and explained yourself, if a bit tersely especially when you kept getting the same questions over and over. Your votes did make sense in the context of the thread. The biggest case against you seems to be what Trfel dug up in meta. I don't know you. Not really fond of meta reads. So I'm reading you as neutral right now. I will say, though, that no I don't think you and Damdred are a scum team. Just a bit too obvious when you were in each other's pockets (him more in yours than the other way around) from the start. I think it's entirely possible for mafia to go after someone who has posted very little thinking that they might have a role (not vanilla town), even if they knew you both were town, so I don't think it's worth voting you to find out if Damdred is scum. (And frankly don't understand voting someone other than who you think is scum to find out if they're scum. Maybe I'm just a noob but that seems counterintuitive to me.)
Yeah I was irritated with me and oat's back and forth too that's why I started ignoring him.
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On November 28 2014 07:11 Half the Sky wrote:
Did we seriously just lose both power roles in the first 36h?
(INSERT EXPLETIVES HERE.)
Looks like the scum are running scared, and there's a reason for that. I just cannot believe how unlucky we have been though. Unbelievable. More filter diving to come...
Fake
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Everything SL is saying is so wrong. "More than 1/4 chance I'm mafia" where do you get this stuff?
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On November 28 2014 07:41 sicklucker wrote:
I was also saying hypothetically If both bats and dandred are scum they would have to kill one of the guys pushing them hard. Wifmo my ass its the only play. Because you cant lose bats because then dandred would be voted out.
Alot of people agreed with me that a bats damdred scum team makes sense. If they didnt them I sapose im wrong here
So you think me and damdred are mafia. You think damdred's plan as mafia is to draw attention to the both of us by defending me. And you think our plan is to kill the people who are pushing us, because that somehow makes us less suspicious?
That's actually what you think???
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On November 28 2014 07:49 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 07:47 batsnacks wrote:On November 28 2014 07:41 sicklucker wrote:
I was also saying hypothetically If both bats and dandred are scum they would have to kill one of the guys pushing them hard. Wifmo my ass its the only play. Because you cant lose bats because then dandred would be voted out.
Alot of people agreed with me that a bats damdred scum team makes sense. If they didnt them I sapose im wrong here So you think me and damdred are mafia. You think damdred's plan as mafia is to draw attention to the both of us by defending me. And you think our plan is to kill the people who are pushing us, because that somehow makes us less suspicious? That's actually what you think??? I never said I believe this. I just feel it makes sense to lynch you. and if you show up mafia then dandred. If you show up town we have a confirmed basically in my mind
YES YOU DID. By believing me and damdred are mafia, that IS what you are saying you believe because that's what happened.
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So what exactly are you trying to say HTS?
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On November 28 2014 07:58 sicklucker wrote:
See this is the thing about my town play people dont understand and often misread me. I like to theorize about possible situations as one bit of evidence to a conclusion. But when I post these theory's people go .OMG HES CRAZY HE BELIEVES WHAT HES WRITING. No im just throwing out ideas for discussion to help us solve the big picture. I dont expect people to blindly follow my logic but I do think I have good points.
I explained to you why you don't have good points. You should get new ones.
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ebwop also you've been saying me and damdred are mafia team for a while now so no that's not just a spur of the moment theory you just now cooked up.
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On November 28 2014 08:03 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 07:59 batsnacks wrote:On November 28 2014 07:58 sicklucker wrote:
See this is the thing about my town play people dont understand and often misread me. I like to theorize about possible situations as one bit of evidence to a conclusion. But when I post these theory's people go .OMG HES CRAZY HE BELIEVES WHAT HES WRITING. No im just throwing out ideas for discussion to help us solve the big picture. I dont expect people to blindly follow my logic but I do think I have good points. I explained to you why you don't have good points. You should get new ones. You just pretty much confirmed his case against you with this post...
Tell me what you're still stuck on and I'll unstuck you.
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Actually I shouldn't let myself get sucked in to this.
##unvote
##vote: alakaslam
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I think I have a bad habit of taking it for granted that people should just understand some basic things.
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On November 28 2014 13:09 Breshke wrote:
People trying to blame damdred saying he pushed dicksmash for no reason yet they still voted on dicksmash don't make sense.
Damdred why do you think bats ignored my question to give a read on you and to explain the "we cant be scum together". Is it frustrating because they are dumb questions or something? I think it is relevant and could easily be answered if he had stuff to back up the shit he says.
I'm sorry I keep ignoring you breshke but this isn't the first time I've answered these questions and it is frustrating answering the same questions over and over again when people aren't listening. I don't think damdred would stick his neck out for me like he has if we were both mafia. It doesn't make sense, if we're both mafia, to bring so much attention on ourselves.
As for as my town read on damdred, think about day 1. I'm town. Scum damdred would know I'm town. Scum damdred would not go out of his way to defend me to move the vote to dicksmash. Scum damdred doesn't care which town dies, if town dies he's happy, so it doesn't make sense for him to defend one town to swing the votes to another town.
Damdred gains nothing defending me if he is mafia.
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btw I don't think your post was useless LS I think that was your best post in the last two games.
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On November 28 2014 13:42 sicklucker wrote:
Ls you have way too many town reads. I think you know your not good enough to have that many this early. Lets focus on your best ones
Which of his reads do you disagree with?
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On November 28 2014 13:57 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 13:24 batsnacks wrote:On November 28 2014 13:09 Breshke wrote:
People trying to blame damdred saying he pushed dicksmash for no reason yet they still voted on dicksmash don't make sense.
Damdred why do you think bats ignored my question to give a read on you and to explain the "we cant be scum together". Is it frustrating because they are dumb questions or something? I think it is relevant and could easily be answered if he had stuff to back up the shit he says. I'm sorry I keep ignoring you breshke but this isn't the first time I've answered these questions and it is frustrating answering the same questions over and over again when people aren't listening. I don't think damdred would stick his neck out for me like he has if we were both mafia. It doesn't make sense, if we're both mafia, to bring so much attention on ourselves. As for as my town read on damdred, think about day 1. I'm town. Scum damdred would know I'm town. Scum damdred would not go out of his way to defend me to move the vote to dicksmash. Scum damdred doesn't care which town dies, if town dies he's happy, so it doesn't make sense for him to defend one town to swing the votes to another town. Damdred gains nothing defending me if he is mafia. No I understand that you had probably answered these questions in pieces everywhere but it was half me being lazy and half me wanting to see you explain it properly. This is going to be paranoid but the fact that "two mafia wouldnt do this" is the exact reason two mafia would do it but i get what you are saying. Your townread on him also makes sense to me know from your pov. Who do you actually think is scummy bats?
I'm voting slam because I think he's scummy. I've never played with slam as mafia, and I've never played a game where slam contributed this little. I expected at least a few more silly posts from him.
meatpudding is also completely forgettable so him too.
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On November 28 2014 14:05 sicklucker wrote:
Its not that I disagree with any particular one its that its unlikely a new player has it all figured. I would like to see a few null reads.
You have no issues with his reads, you just wish there were less of them? Who cares if they're wrong he's sharing what he thinks. More of that is better.
And about half of those reads were borderline null.
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On November 28 2014 14:12 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 14:10 batsnacks wrote:On November 28 2014 14:05 sicklucker wrote:
Its not that I disagree with any particular one its that its unlikely a new player has it all figured. I would like to see a few null reads. You have no issues with his reads, you just wish there were less of them? Who cares if they're wrong he's sharing what he thinks. More of that is better. And about half of those reads were borderline null. No his reads are bad too I just didnt feel like being mean hes trying so hard =[
So first you said you don't disagree with his reads.
Now they're bad.
They're like 1000x better than your reads.
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On November 28 2014 14:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
You are wrong about slam bats. He posts as both alignments. Just more useful as one.
It's kinda like palmar. If he's afk, it doesn't mean shit.
Your reasoning is bad. Why would you instantly think that a low post count slam is scum when you have never played waith a scum slam.
We can't read him if he doesn't post. Slam is perfectly capable of convincing me he's town, or at the very least not the best lynch today. If he's not doing that (he isn't) I don't see any problem with voting him until he does.
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