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rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 26 2014 21:18 GMT

#523

@breske

Nope, I'm SLs fearful scum of scum that he for some reason originally voted for but never pushed xP No townie circle for me. Which is fine by me, actually... I'm allergic to dumb.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 26 2014 21:30 GMT

#526

My problem with SL is the insta-town claim, the pre I'm gonna be coasting, the so-called "trap" that served no purpose, the slender-to-no reasons for any and all of his votes/buses, his claim that he's trying to lead town (you fail as a leader, dude), the lets point fingers at everyone until something sticks method (you kept bouncing around on who you were accusing while leaving your vote the same, then finally pushed for dicks when it seemed to be gaining momentum) and this don't look at me, look at me BS.

I'm not voting you right now SL because I think you really may be this stupid. However, you're in my crosshairs. And it looks like I'm not the only one on that score.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 26 2014 22:07 GMT

#547

I think it's ridiculous for town to know who is mafia based on Dick turning up town on a Day 1 lynch but maybe you can school us for once SL.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 26 2014 22:16 GMT

#553

Eh, yeah. You'd think town with a role would kick up more of a fuss if he was being bussed. Oh well. Apologies LS...apparently with this group the potential of hitting power roles is way higher than you'd think.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 26 2014 22:21 GMT

#558

Town power roles Damdred. Context. I told LS that he should vote for lynch cause we were unlikely to hit a town power role, which he was afraid of. And here we go and do it, lol.

So I was apologizing. Even though lynching was the right thing, this group isn't playing well and what he feared happened.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 26 2014 22:33 GMT

#570

What are we arguing about anyway? There was no reasonable way for a single person here to have known that Dick was the doc. Mafia knew he was town, sure, but why go out of their way to switch votes to another person last minute just to seem innocent when there was no great debate and only a couple here and there who disagreed with lynching Dick?

Although if anyone claims they did that because of some great insight I suppose you can call BS on it. Still don't see the point of the argument y'all are having right now.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 26 2014 23:31 GMT

#623

Because SL says I am and SL thinks his shit don't stink -amused-

As an aside, if town jumps on a townie (nearly inevitable in Day 1 lynch) mafia wouldn't need to push after it hard. Their only concern should be protecting their own team. Means the pushers aren't necessarily mafia. To assume they are is to go down a rabbit trail.

There was no reason not to push Dick. We can agree on that, I hope. Whether or not there was a better choice is up for debate, so why don't we take a look back and see if we still think those people are scum? That seems far more productive than this. Anyone still thinking Bats looks good for it?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 27 2014 02:05 GMT

#658

Yo, SL, gonna tell ppl why you think I'm scum as you were asked, or just keep pointing fingers at everyone and everyone with no or weak nonsensical explanations?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 27 2014 02:49 GMT

#669

On November 27 2014 11:06 sicklucker wrote:

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Your just super anti town and add nothing

Lol, that's your case? I'm scum because I'm scum? Good job, SL. You're proving my point.

The so very anti-town comment you claim I made was my expressing doubt that you had a huge amazing revelation about who was scum if Dick flipped town. Yet you were the one pushing everyone to get on him in the first place. I never said I wouldn't listen to this "amazing" revelation, but it turned out to be just as flimsy as I thought it would be.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 27 2014 03:17 GMT

#674

That was unnecessary SL if you really do think that. Talk about anti-town or just plain stupid.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 27 2014 03:24 GMT

#677

-_- SL, I see why people keep thinking you're scum. You are not at all careful about what you're saying, what you're reading, what verb tenses you're using. If you're town, dude, learn to take the time to think before you post and actually reread it to make sure it's saying what you meant to say. Or you're going to misdirect people into thinking you're mafia simply because you're acting like a self-contradicting looney toon.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 27 2014 03:30 GMT

#689

Actually, SL, making sure that you're properly understood is what everyone should do, not just mafia. Because if as town you constantly contradict yourself and don't give clear reads/reasons behind your votes, it seems like you are scum. Seeming like that when you are not means town is likely to waste a lynch on you or time focusing on you when they could be focusing on the real scum.

Because others suggest this is always how you play, even when town, I'm trying to help you out, dude. No one is going to take you seriously if you're too damn suspicious and all over the place to be trusted.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 27 2014 03:32 GMT

#692

On November 27 2014 12:30 meatpudding wrote:

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I'm actually starting to think that SL's erratic behaviour means he could be town. I think if he were scum he would be a little more careful with his accusations.

I don't know that he'd play better as scum at all, honestly, but I'm with you on him reading town. That's why I'm trying to help him out if he's willing to listen.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 27 2014 03:37 GMT

#697

Eh, don't know about Damdred, to be honest. The few games I've played with him, he typically asks a ton of questions when he's playing town. Been avoiding a read on him because I think seeing him play before has biased me...especially since it was on a different site that doesn't play seriously at all.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 27 2014 03:45 GMT

#703

That's not a half-bad idea, SL, other than it assumes that mafia would never defend a townie. Not sure that's the best assumption to make. That said, if that was his play as mafia, defending townies, probably wouldn't have more or less headed the bus on Dick.

Do you think going after bats should still be a thing, though?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 27 2014 03:48 GMT

#706

Yeah, I'm not for pushing bats if the only reason is to see if Damdred is guilty or not by association, not if people don't think bats is mafia. Giant waste of time. If you think Damdred is the more likely scum, go after him. If you don't really think either are, we should be looking at other players.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 27 2014 04:09 GMT

#725

On November 27 2014 12:50 Oatsmaster wrote:

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like who?
Why are you using the word "we"?

I'm using the word "we" because me, myself and I am not enough, and I can scream into the ether all I want; doesn't matter if no one listens.

As to who...lord friggin knows. LS bugs me because of the multiple references to being cop before early on, but I don't think he's necessarily scum for it. And his explanation for not wanting to lynch vote made sense in the context of his last game.

Kush...he gave a few small reads and made a few comments but I don't feel he's made any significant contributions to the game.

The ones who are leaning more town for me are you, Trfel and Breshke...and SL to a lesser extent. Doesn't mean I agree with their reads 100% but I don't think any of you guys are scum.

Damdred I'm on the fence on. Experience says town...but since that was a different context and the experience I'm talking about is maybe 4 games, I wouldn't go out on a fence for him as town based on solely that.

Bats I don't like because he's not explaining himself well, and sometimes completely ignoring questions directed at him while goofing off. Yet those of you who have played with him before seem to think that's normal for him, despite Trfel's attempt at a metaread based on his prior games.

Still not happy with Alakaslam's nonsense then disappearance and last-minute vote. No strong scum read on him in particular, but until I get one, getting rid of useless is fine by me, as I said before.

Meatpudding is leaning more town for me than scum. He seems to be genuinely trying to probe for scum.

This is all based on memory, and the feels I'm getting, not specific quotes though if you want deeper reads I can find where the impressions came from. To be honest, though...I'm hoping to get something out of who mafia kills tonight.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 27 2014 04:25 GMT

#733

On November 27 2014 13:02 Oatsmaster wrote:

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he is super depressive and just makes cutting comments at people.
Not interested in finding scum or lynching scum
posting for the sake of posting.
Telling town to do things while not doing things.

The first is true enough. I'm caustic.

The second I can understand, even though I have been making an effort, with first Meatpudding (questioning his timing), then LS (questioning why he didn't want to lynch anyone first night). It's part-arrogance, admittedly. Since it's not clear to me (and obviously isn't clear to most of the rest of you with all the hopping around I'm seeing) who scum is, I'm not hugely in favor of bussing someone I don't feel strongly about. I could make up some hogwash if you like, but I don't feel that's constructive in the long run.

The third is your opinion, so I won't argue it one way or another. Everyone can decide that for themselves.

As to the fourth...that's where I'm lost. What are you referring to?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 27 2014 04:29 GMT

#735

Ah. Thanks. Believe that's the first time I've used it, but I know I've used pushed a few times. Is that one too?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

November 27 2014 07:04 GMT

#747

Agree with you both on that. Unless something else comes out to hit me in the face, don't see Alakaslam as a great loss even if he turns out to be town...can't read someone who isn't participating, after all.

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