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He conveys a lot of confidence in his reads, but I don't see any reasoning behind them. I'm not really sure where he stands on breshke. On November 26 2014 08:53 sicklucker wrote: Bet my left nut on towns - hts, trfel leaning towns - dicksmash, Ls, slam? Longshot crack pot day 1 mafia team call out for fun - rsoultin, Damdred, breske I think we got 2 mafia in the more experienced players, im liking alot of the new guys On November 25 2014 09:59 sicklucker wrote: Ive given my breske read as well. I pretty much just said its weird but hes null . If I wanted to push him id push him. Hes one of the few players I know so I want him to stick around soI can read him more. This read on Damdred is super mysterious and odd. I think he's trying to make it look like he's contributing more than he is. On November 26 2014 09:10 sicklucker wrote: Damdred I think what ive seen is scum. I found it super weird how he never asked breske one question but he asked me 15 of the same question. I dont want to push him yet because I think I can soulread him as I have in a current game I cant talk about. Bresk individuality I dont have much but he hasint been around. I just put him in that longshot scum team from their really weird day 1 interactions together. This is a good start but where is the follow up? If he was town I think it would be important to push on this statement. On November 26 2014 09:34 sicklucker wrote: I already found holes in meats story I dont like him at all. He seems to be handing out reads at random. Trying to justify everything by saying 'I have a good reason but I just can't tell you.' I feel like his game plan is to not get lynched rather than figure out the game. ##Vote sicklucker | ||
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On November 27 2014 12:24 rsoultin wrote: -_- SL, I see why people keep thinking you're scum. You are not at all careful about what you're saying, what you're reading, what verb tenses you're using. If you're town, dude, learn to take the time to think before you post and actually reread it to make sure it's saying what you meant to say. Or you're going to misdirect people into thinking you're mafia simply because you're acting like a self-contradicting looney toon. I'm actually starting to think that SL's erratic behaviour means he could be town. I think if he were scum he would be a little more careful with his accusations. | ||
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On November 27 2014 12:58 Oatsmaster wrote: man fuck this game, there are like 6 scummy dudes. Damdred Bats Meatpudding Lightningstrike rsoultin slam Why do you think rsoultin is scummy? | ||
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Sorry I couldn't post. I went to school after the storm hit but they closed the labs for repair. I can't post form my phone  Anyway caught up now. I wanted to post my thoughts at the end of night, but it's pretty much moot now. Also, I wanted to push on slam, but because of the replacement I would change my read from scum to null. | ||
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I'm on the fence about both Bats and Damdred. On bats, I haven't really been reading him as scummy for most of the game. So far, each case I have seen is not convincing enough for me. His posts are either null or town leaning for the most part. In fact, I would have put bats as a town lean which is the most likely scenario, except for something which make me consider a world where he is scum. His outright agreement with kush being the main thing. I haven't been convinced and I don't buy that bats would read kush town after such a brief amount of posting. So, because I feel that it's about 60-40 that he is town, I am calling it a fence read. On Damdred, I was leaning scum D1, but after that I have no strong feelings one way or the other. It's pretty obvious that he's not scum team with sicklucker as I first thought. And I doubt that he is scum team with bats. It could be the case, but I think a better guess is kush/bats or kush/damdred. Damdred's posts come off to me as distractions to town. He is acting very defensive about everything. He is asking questions often, but I don't see how they shape his reads. I feel like he is pushing on everyone who makes any kind of statement against him, but is just trying to corner them or wear them down in a 'do you really think that' kind of way. So, I don't really agree with his reads at all and I feel like he should have come a lot further than he has, considering his post count. I don't get his defence of bats, though I am inclined to believe that bats could be town maybe damd is trying to pocket. On kush, I have seen him as the most scummy player so far. He lurked D1 and basically didn't post anything except to directly answer questions. I think this is not even a null read, this is scummy, there is very little put forward to help town. What bothers me more about this is that even though he has not done anything to earn a town read, I feel like he has been given a free pass to the game. So I'm not sure what to make of this. Would his scum partner have the balls to say that kush is def town? I think that is a pretty bold move but it's wifom to think about. His D2 reads have been no better, and basically random. Breske? (lol) HtS? I don't feel that either. Is he just trying to see what sticks and jump on a wagon without making a case? Meanwhile he I feel like he is being covered for by a partner. Either that or town is being really dopey. LS i am null leaning scum. I think he pretty much takes slam's place on the list. Something about his posts has kind of bothered me, like he's lurking but not pushing. What makes me suspicious enough to call scum is that kush never mentions him nor interacts with him at all. He gives a D1 scum read with no backup and then just drops on it. Hm. My town reads from least to most are oats, HtS, rasputin, sicklucker and breshke. The last three especially are pretty legit. | ||
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On November 29 2014 10:35 rsoultin wrote: First off lol >< I do have to apologize to you meat. I was wrong. I must have looked at your filter five times and still screwed up the timestamp on your posts. You did post the question about a read on HTS a half hour before your Marry/Bang/Kill post, so that's my bad. November 25 2014 17:58 November 25, 2014 18:18 Before that you had made your short post. November 25, 2014 17:37 For some reason I confused the timestamp with the one on this post: November 24, 2014 18:11 So no, you did not suddenly start posting when I asked where you were. That is my bad. And you were right about posting 30 minutes before. All that leaves in terms of why I was questioning you was the unexplained time gap of almost 24 hrs between the last post linked above and the request for a read on HTS. I thought you were avoiding the question, but I was asking it wrong because I'm a dolt. Could you explain that gap please? If you can, I no longer have any issues with you, especially if you remain active now. Meh I need to learn to timestamp better. Oops I think that was when I was working on the map analyser. If you're into starcraft you should check it out in the custom maps forum. Oh I probably should have posted that evening though. If I remember correctly that was when bats/oats showed up. It was a bit of a shitstorm I didn't really have much to contribute but tried to follow it as well. I noticed that's when Kush showed up as well, but only posted a few times. | ||
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On November 29 2014 10:42 kushm4sta wrote: scum might just get lucky enough that im too busy to do anything today Without any defense I have no reason not to ##Vote kushm4sta | ||
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On November 29 2014 11:05 rsoultin wrote: Got a link? I'm not but I'd still like to see your map, lol. Some friends are. And yeah the shitstorm had me very grumpy. That and probably jet lag, but I'm going to pretend it was all them yup. Bats switched his vote to Oats right before kush came in. Inclined to follow suit on that vote with you, meatpudding. Yet another non-post by Kush. Most I've seen from him was his helping to push Dicks with Damdred. Check my sig, it's not really on topic for this thread. So far I haven't really bought into the case on bats, as I said above. But he's one of the people who gave kush town cred, when I clearly feel he doesn't deserve it at all. This could be a meta read by bats, and I don't like it. I'm still a newb player but I;ve never seen so much meta than in this thread. It's pretty easy to game the meta, so I don't read too much into those arguments. Another scenario is that kush, bats are the same alignment. It would be an extremely forward move to town read your buddy just like that. But maybe he would try it because we would never expect it. Wifom, etc.... | ||
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My main reason for reading scum on slam was that he was lurking, so I don't have a case now. | ||
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On November 29 2014 11:21 sicklucker wrote: Meat scum reads me and votes me. Now he doesint even mention me in his reads??????? I'm not reading you as scum anymore SL. I put you in my reads as nearly top town. I don't see you as pushing the scum agenda at all. | ||
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On November 29 2014 13:53 LightningStrike wrote: Before I go to bed I got question rsoultin,Breshke, and meatpudding What is your case on kushm4sta because I willing to change my vote if you guys give me a better case than the case on meatpudding as I got both them as my top scum. If it;s kushm4sta and meatpudding that are your top scum you should definitely vote kushm4sta. Outlined the gist of it in my first post. The silence factor is a big deal. By being read town, he had very little motivation to say anything. The fact that he was being read town after doing next to nothing was my second concern. I'm not sure that I want to commit to saying that he's working with a partner, but I am suspicious. His D1 read like scum to me. Same with D2. So before he started voting on D1 there was this kind of interaction. On November 25 2014 18:50 Breshke wrote: Got any reads you want to share kush? I don't really like sicklucker at the moment but i can't really express why. I don't get why people make these "traps" and then he has come to almost 0 conclusions from it. Like the trap in itself is not alignment indicative because he set it up before he knew his role but he seemingly got nothing from it and it was just an excuse because of his bad initial post. On November 25 2014 18:58 kushm4sta wrote: breshke, what was scummy about sicklucker I think moreso than that he set a trap, was that he used it as an excuse to omgus you. On November 25 2014 21:17 Breshke wrote: yeah i think what i was trying to say is the same as you kush. What did he egt from that trap/ What was he hoping to get from it? Kush what's your read on Oats if you have any at this time On November 25 2014 21:43 kushm4sta wrote: Probably town because he's acting pro town but that's a weak read. Granted I haven't read the whole game yet. Basically Kush is posting without giving too much away. I think if he didn't have any reads then he could have just said that? Like he is feigning interest in the game maybe. His posts are half jokes and banter, where the actual content of his reads are just flat lists with no justification. Then out of nowhere On November 26 2014 01:39 kushm4sta wrote: ##unvote ##vote damdred with the corresponding explanation On November 26 2014 01:55 kushm4sta wrote: I'm caught up. On my phone. Scum pile Rasputin very little content. I remember what's there being scummy. ls similar to above in that i don't remember precisely why he's scummy. Damdred-stronger read His tone reads like a know it all. His arguments defending his shit pushes make no sense. Oats I changed my mind on this one having read everything. His tunnel on bat is so superficial yet he's not letting it go. So he voted because "he's scummy but I don't know why" and then after this is going onto dicksmash. Then he rolls over, says he's too busy with half a day left to go, but he's obviously still in the thread. This alone isn't such a scum tell. But if he is scum, as I suspect, then there's no way he gets a free pass by continuing to be afk. | ||
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On November 29 2014 18:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Kush isn't scum. Can you give an idea of why you think that? | ||
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On November 29 2014 19:05 Oatsmaster wrote: It's so bad for scum kush to react like this to pressure. Because shit like what you guys are doing happens. Well yeah... but are you really saying that going afk under pressure confirms town? | ||
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HtS Votes kush obviously to keep himself alive when he was the other wagon. Can't read into the alignment here. meat You can see my reasoning for suspecting kush in my other posts. Breshke Idk why breshke chose to vote kush, maybe because he was lurking. rsoultin Not sure actually why he votes kush when he said Damdred was his scum read. D1 final count batsnacks (2): Oatsmaster, Trfel, Breshke Dicksmash Mcironcock (6): kushm4sta, Damdred, Half the Sky, LightningStrike, SickLucker, rsoultin, Alakaslam sicklucker (1): meatpudding Trfel (1): batsnacks D2 final count Kushm4sta (4): Breshke, meatpudding, Half the Sky, rsoultin Half the Sky (3): Oatsmaster, Batsnacks, LightningStrike rsoultin (2): Hopeless1der,Damdred batsnacks (1): sicklucker conclusion excluding sl and breshke for the time being pretty unlikely that hopeless and damdred are both scums, but likely that one of them are. one of oats, bats, LS likely to me mafia one of hts, rasputin. I'm kind of leaning town on both hts and rasputin. I would consider taking another look at brashke. Kush's suggestion on the roleblock scenario seems too far-fetched. MAYBE the roleblocker was afk and breshke claimed, I doubt it so much. My best guess based on the votes is HtS, LS, Damdred | ||
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