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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 26 2014 00:42 GMT
#341
On November 26 2014 09:36 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 12:25 batsnacks wrote:
On November 25 2014 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
He has bad posts regarding a read ohf HTS, his policy lynch on kush is really bad and he is using that to avoid playing the game and doing actual useful things.


This isn't a read. None of oats' posts contain reads.

oats is play is like 80% asking questions that have already been answered and 20% badgering the host about issues he could fix himself.

If my plynch on kush is bad give me something better.

I've seen oats play a lot better than he is doing right now.

Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 01:49 batsnacks wrote:
I don't think LS is mafia based on his posting being highly similar to last game (he was cop)

Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 02:33 batsnacks wrote:
I think kush is town oats.

I just looked at all of your posts, and these are the only posts that I can see where you offer any sort of a read or an accusation whatsoever (I left out the post where you voted for Oatsmaster, but that didn't really say anything other than a vote). This seems to be an extremely short list to me, and lacks explanations.

As for your read on Oatsmaster:

I'm not a big fan of Oatsmaster's attitide, see below:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 11:29 Oatsmaster wrote:

Oi filters in OP please.


Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 11:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really don't appreciate the constant reference that you are in 2 games slam. Please stop it.

But that doesn't matter. To me, he seems to have consistently shown a geniune desire to keep the thread on focus, and having that focus be searching for the mafia. He's asked a lot of questions, and despite having an actual argument against you, seems to be suspicious of rsoultin as well. To me, these are reads. I disagree with the rsoultin read, but it is still a read, with some logic behind it. Thus, for your "read" on Oatsmaster to be worth anything, you need to provide some more reasons for it.


Well to me oats looks like he's nitpicking and fucking off. I'm pretty sure every person oats has communicated with this game has accused him of the same. He doesn't even follow up on his nitpicking e.g. when he asked me this:

On November 26 2014 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 01:49 batsnacks wrote:
I don't think LS is mafia based on his posting being highly similar to last game (he was cop)

He has like 2 proper posts.
How in the world are you making a comparision off 2 votes?

Also, why did you mention that he was a cop?

And I responded with this:
On November 26 2014 02:09 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 02:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 26 2014 01:57 batsnacks wrote:
He didn't have very many posts last game either, but his few posts then were similar to his few posts now.

And I brought up he was the cop for anyone that might not have been in that game.

At least get some in here to compare?


His filter was only like 3 pages that game here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike


And NOTHING. Zero conclusions made. He is just nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 26 2014 00:48 GMT
#342
##vote meatpudding

Coincidental maybe that you suddenly come in with a buttload of reads after I ask where you went and disappeared to, but that screams lurking to me. You've talked lynching policies a lot and got in early game on the sl, breske business defending breske's vote as not indicative of an alignment...and came out in favor of a no-lynch. Those by themselves aren't that significant. I don't see much value added the first day though.

And the timing today...that's what really has me suspicious. Got a good reason for that?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 26 2014 00:49 GMT
#343
I think that's a good vote. GJ putin.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 26 2014 00:52 GMT
#344
On November 26 2014 09:42 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 09:36 Trfel wrote:
On November 25 2014 12:25 batsnacks wrote:
On November 25 2014 12:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
He has bad posts regarding a read ohf HTS, his policy lynch on kush is really bad and he is using that to avoid playing the game and doing actual useful things.


This isn't a read. None of oats' posts contain reads.

oats is play is like 80% asking questions that have already been answered and 20% badgering the host about issues he could fix himself.

If my plynch on kush is bad give me something better.

I've seen oats play a lot better than he is doing right now.

On November 26 2014 01:49 batsnacks wrote:
I don't think LS is mafia based on his posting being highly similar to last game (he was cop)

On November 26 2014 02:33 batsnacks wrote:
I think kush is town oats.

I just looked at all of your posts, and these are the only posts that I can see where you offer any sort of a read or an accusation whatsoever (I left out the post where you voted for Oatsmaster, but that didn't really say anything other than a vote). This seems to be an extremely short list to me, and lacks explanations.

As for your read on Oatsmaster:

I'm not a big fan of Oatsmaster's attitide, see below:
On November 25 2014 11:29 Oatsmaster wrote:

Oi filters in OP please.


On November 25 2014 11:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really don't appreciate the constant reference that you are in 2 games slam. Please stop it.

But that doesn't matter. To me, he seems to have consistently shown a geniune desire to keep the thread on focus, and having that focus be searching for the mafia. He's asked a lot of questions, and despite having an actual argument against you, seems to be suspicious of rsoultin as well. To me, these are reads. I disagree with the rsoultin read, but it is still a read, with some logic behind it. Thus, for your "read" on Oatsmaster to be worth anything, you need to provide some more reasons for it.


Well to me oats looks like he's nitpicking and fucking off. I'm pretty sure every person oats has communicated with this game has accused him of the same. He doesn't even follow up on his nitpicking e.g. when he asked me this:

Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 26 2014 01:49 batsnacks wrote:
I don't think LS is mafia based on his posting being highly similar to last game (he was cop)

He has like 2 proper posts.
How in the world are you making a comparision off 2 votes?

Also, why did you mention that he was a cop?

And I responded with this:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 02:09 batsnacks wrote:
On November 26 2014 02:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 26 2014 01:57 batsnacks wrote:
He didn't have very many posts last game either, but his few posts then were similar to his few posts now.

And I brought up he was the cop for anyone that might not have been in that game.

At least get some in here to compare?


His filter was only like 3 pages that game here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?user=LightningStrike

And NOTHING. Zero conclusions made. He is just nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking.

Yes, I also find it strange that Oatsmaster hasn't seemed to respond to when people answer his questions. To be fair, Oatsmaster questioned me a few times earlier, and while I felt he was aggressive, I'm glad he was looking for info and he had good reasons for asking. I didn't feel nitpicked at all.

Instead of nitpicking, you seem to be mostly doing nothing. I'm glad that you are finally making a defense, but this is (I believe) the third time you have been asked for one. And you still haven't provided any real scum reads.

##Vote: batsnacks
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 26 2014 00:54 GMT
#345
On November 26 2014 09:48 rsoultin wrote:
##vote meatpudding

Coincidental maybe that you suddenly come in with a buttload of reads after I ask where you went and disappeared to, but that screams lurking to me. You've talked lynching policies a lot and got in early game on the sl, breske business defending breske's vote as not indicative of an alignment...and came out in favor of a no-lynch. Those by themselves aren't that significant. I don't see much value added the first day though.

And the timing today...that's what really has me suspicious. Got a good reason for that?


Not sure if you're saying I'm in favour of no-lynch? I haven't mentioned that, and I haven't voted yet either. As for the time, it's morning here. On that topic end of day is at 8am for me.
Be excellent to each other.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 26 2014 00:56 GMT
#346
On November 26 2014 09:48 rsoultin wrote:
And the timing today...that's what really has me suspicious. Got a good reason for that?


Actually I can think of one (a bit coincidental but still) but I'll leave it to him to defend himself.

Meatpudding, I'm going to put the TLDR version regarding kush as it's late here, but I will add more in the morning.

Most of kush's posts, when aggregated, are coming off as trolling, fluff, very terse statements. It could be his style or he could just try and create confusion. (Can another veteran please elaborate?) In his defence, he does explain on his phone his rationale for some of his reads, I don't agree with all of them, but they are otherwise reasonable arguments.

I'm going to say null for now, but in need of more information to be conclusive.


The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 26 2014 00:57 GMT
#347
Trfel point me toward what you think oats has gained and utilized from his nitpicking. All I see is people calling him out for it and people complaining about it.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 26 2014 00:59 GMT
#348
On November 26 2014 09:52 Trfel wrote:
Instead of nitpicking, you seem to be mostly doing nothing. I'm glad that you are finally making a defense, but this is (I believe) the third time you have been asked for one. And you still haven't provided any real scum reads.

##Vote: batsnacks


I'd vote Bats at this point, but since I'm equally convinced on Damdred, I'm going to wait for the latter's defence before I vote in the morning one way or another. (It doesn't appear I can vote for both in one night.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 26 2014 01:01 GMT
#349
u know doris day isn't the first person to say that, right?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 26 2014 01:02 GMT
#350
nvm im dumb i thought that was some ancient proverb or something lol
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 26 2014 01:03 GMT
#351
On November 26 2014 09:38 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 09:36 sicklucker wrote:
On November 26 2014 09:26 meatpudding wrote:
On November 26 2014 09:22 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 26 2014 09:18 meatpudding wrote:
Ok, here's where I stand right now. If you're name's not on the list then consider it a null read for the time being.

Marry
Breshke
Bang
HTS
Trfel
Kill
Damdred
sicklucker


I am not familiar with this terminology. I assume you mean kill is like a lynch/scum vote. but what is "marry" and "bang"?

Also taking note of your inquiry, on kush, he did not strike me one way or another going through the thread, but let me filter and pull together his posts for a better read.


[B]Marry is towniest of town. Bang, I would consider you town for now, but it just might not last. Kill is scum.[B/]


Can you not use nivknames so I know who your talking about plz?


HTS = HalfTheSky


whos marrry bang and kill....
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 26 2014 01:03 GMT
#352
On November 26 2014 09:54 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 09:48 rsoultin wrote:
##vote meatpudding

Coincidental maybe that you suddenly come in with a buttload of reads after I ask where you went and disappeared to, but that screams lurking to me. You've talked lynching policies a lot and got in early game on the sl, breske business defending breske's vote as not indicative of an alignment...and came out in favor of a no-lynch. Those by themselves aren't that significant. I don't see much value added the first day though.

And the timing today...that's what really has me suspicious. Got a good reason for that?


Not sure if you're saying I'm in favour of no-lynch? I haven't mentioned that, and I haven't voted yet either. As for the time, it's morning here. On that topic end of day is at 8am for me.


Reread your posts and it was SLs comment on trying to lead town you were agreeing with, not the no-lynch suggestion. My bad.

I'll accept the alibi for now. Still find the timing coincidental, but you were active at about this time yesterday, too.

##unvote
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 26 2014 01:05 GMT
#353
Should lynch today:
DICKSMASHMCIRONCOCK

Could be scum I guess:
3) rsoultin (filter)
6) LightningStrike (filter)
10) Damdred (filter)
11) alakaslam (filter)
13) Oatsmaster (filter)


Longshots:
4) Trfel (filter)
7) Meatpudding (filter)

Anyone want to defend dicksmash with meta or something? He is nitpicking and whiteknighting. such obvious scum play.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 26 2014 01:07 GMT
#354
On November 26 2014 10:03 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 09:54 meatpudding wrote:
On November 26 2014 09:48 rsoultin wrote:
##vote meatpudding

Coincidental maybe that you suddenly come in with a buttload of reads after I ask where you went and disappeared to, but that screams lurking to me. You've talked lynching policies a lot and got in early game on the sl, breske business defending breske's vote as not indicative of an alignment...and came out in favor of a no-lynch. Those by themselves aren't that significant. I don't see much value added the first day though.

And the timing today...that's what really has me suspicious. Got a good reason for that?


Not sure if you're saying I'm in favour of no-lynch? I haven't mentioned that, and I haven't voted yet either. As for the time, it's morning here. On that topic end of day is at 8am for me.


Reread your posts and it was SLs comment on trying to lead town you were agreeing with, not the no-lynch suggestion. My bad.

I'll accept the alibi for now. Still find the timing coincidental, but you were active at about this time yesterday, too.

##unvote


Im pretty sure meat made a small 1 liner post you missed and he was already around. Also I do buy his Australian excuse
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 26 2014 01:13 GMT
#355
On November 19 2014 10:59 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
/in
I'm not really a newbie so put me down as either in just don't wanna force someone out of a spot they want/need.


Well Ill take my town read away I thought he was a new player but I did like him calling out damdred.

On November 25 2014 09:28 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 09:26 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:22 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:08 Damdred wrote:
SL tell me what you think of Half the Sky.

And since you are so good at reading breske give me a preliminary read (especially since you are fond of fast reads)


Like hes the only person in the game ive given a read on yet. Why do you keep asking


Because your read is half ass'd and at one point you say that he defends you when he never does and in almost his very next post he says "Oh nvm i'll vote him and keep my eye on him" basically.


Thats bullshit Everypost I made in this entire thread was about those two players. Its like your posting to make yourself look good while adding nothing.

i kinda agree with this.

rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
November 26 2014 01:14 GMT
#356
On November 26 2014 10:07 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 10:03 rsoultin wrote:
On November 26 2014 09:54 meatpudding wrote:
On November 26 2014 09:48 rsoultin wrote:
##vote meatpudding

Coincidental maybe that you suddenly come in with a buttload of reads after I ask where you went and disappeared to, but that screams lurking to me. You've talked lynching policies a lot and got in early game on the sl, breske business defending breske's vote as not indicative of an alignment...and came out in favor of a no-lynch. Those by themselves aren't that significant. I don't see much value added the first day though.

And the timing today...that's what really has me suspicious. Got a good reason for that?


Not sure if you're saying I'm in favour of no-lynch? I haven't mentioned that, and I haven't voted yet either. As for the time, it's morning here. On that topic end of day is at 8am for me.


Reread your posts and it was SLs comment on trying to lead town you were agreeing with, not the no-lynch suggestion. My bad.

I'll accept the alibi for now. Still find the timing coincidental, but you were active at about this time yesterday, too.

##unvote


Im pretty sure meat made a small 1 liner post you missed and he was already around. Also I do buy his Australian excuse


No offense, dude, but you're wrong. Check the filter. Over 24 hours passed between when he asked HTS for a read on kush yesterday and his Marry/Bang/Kill list today, which was posted about a half hour after I asked where he'd gotten off to. The coincidence of the timing is legit.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 26 2014 01:16 GMT
#357
ok but its still a bad case
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 26 2014 01:18 GMT
#358
There's people arguing about whether someone's excuses are legit or not...

Meanwhile Trfel has contributed a massive case, he's followed up and voted, and no one has commented on any of it.

If you're town get your priorities straight. If you're mafia keep talking about IRL excuses and timezones.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 26 2014 01:21 GMT
#359
On November 26 2014 10:13 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2014 10:59 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
/in
I'm not really a newbie so put me down as either in just don't wanna force someone out of a spot they want/need.


Well Ill take my town read away I thought he was a new player but I did like him calling out damdred.

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 09:28 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:26 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:22 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:08 Damdred wrote:
SL tell me what you think of Half the Sky.

And since you are so good at reading breske give me a preliminary read (especially since you are fond of fast reads)


Like hes the only person in the game ive given a read on yet. Why do you keep asking


Because your read is half ass'd and at one point you say that he defends you when he never does and in almost his very next post he says "Oh nvm i'll vote him and keep my eye on him" basically.


Thats bullshit Everypost I made in this entire thread was about those two players. Its like your posting to make yourself look good while adding nothing.

i kinda agree with this.



How easy would it be for him to make that +1 as scum.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
November 26 2014 01:21 GMT
#360
On November 26 2014 09:57 batsnacks wrote:
Trfel point me toward what you think oats has gained and utilized from his nitpicking. All I see is people calling him out for it and people complaining about it.


On November 26 2014 02:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
So I'm not a scum read rsoultin?
Interesting. Why aren't you putting in effort to find scum since you have no scum reads? I don't see an inquisitive mindset from you.


This seems to be the best he's gotten. My point still stands, to me you are looking very much like scum. Trying to turn people's attentions towards Oatsmaster doesn't change that.
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