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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 06:37 GMT
#1979
EBWOP:
Took the time to read the context for most of meat's posts.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 06:52 GMT
#1981
Nah, I do see your point, was just curious.

If you don't think bats is scum, hopeless is the obvious vote. No arguments here on that one. And you said you had a null read on him. If you've got reasons he isn't scummy I'd like to hear them. You were on him Day 1, but then that changed, and I don't remember why.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 06:54 GMT
#1982
Also, just for clarification, I wasn't asking that question in relation to Hopeless specifically. I was asking it as a general policy change. Assumed it had something to do with the game being further along but I wanted to hear your reasons instead of just make assumptions.

Do you have any scum reads, Oats?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 07:00 GMT
#1985
On December 05 2014 15:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2014 15:52 rsoultin wrote:
Nah, I do see your point, was just curious.

If you don't think bats is scum, hopeless is the obvious vote. No arguments here on that one. And you said you had a null read on him. If you've got reasons he isn't scummy I'd like to hear them. You were on him Day 1, but then that changed, and I don't remember why.

he got off my grill and started interacting with the game pretty much.

Again, the interactions with Lightning Strike are interesting because i find it hard to believe that lightning sheeps his teammate so blatently.


That's fair. I'm basing my voting off assumptions regarding probable mafia strategies and process of elimination as well, so can't fault anyone for that, even if our conclusions aren't the same.

If you couldn't vote for hopeless, who would you be voting for? Meat?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 07:02 GMT
#1987
On December 05 2014 15:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
list would probably be
Hopeless
Meat
HTS
Bats



You already answered. Okay. Hrum, well, regarding meat at least, he and ls were scum reading each other from earlier than Day 3, but that could be a possible strategy rather than indicative of meat's alignment. Granted I'm not happy with meat's later posts and the fact that he doesn't seem to be actually reading. Not sure that that's alignment indicative either, though. I'd think mafia would be paying more attention to the thread...
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 07:03 GMT
#1988
On December 05 2014 16:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yup.
Or HTS.
I would have to think hard about that.


So why HTS? Meat thinks HTS too, but for completely superficial reasons, from what little he's said.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 07:16 GMT
#1990
Lol...he's generally weird. Heh if it comes to that as being our basis for voting people we're in trouble ><. I have a bad habit of assuming, given two options, that people play well vs. poor, intelligent vs. stupid. Which...people can play stupid. LS didn't play stupid, but he did play green. I could see him sheeping a scum partner.

Bats...he just never backs anything up. So I am making the assumption that his not being able to answer questions, or support his statements, his random tangents that don't hold much water, are scum behavior rather than him just being someone who doesn't know how to reason things out or present his ideas. It's a backhanded compliment I know.

But I'm not trying to convince you. I'm more just thinking aloud. If Bats didn't make me twitch I'd be voting for Hopeless, too. Not giving meat a bye but I find him less likely than the other too. I know I'm running counter to Breshke as well.

So question: Why would HTS not change his vote to keep from being lynched EoD 2 if he was scum? Honestly that's the main reason I'm not considering him in my unknown pool. That and nothing from him that just screams scummy, weird or no.

So I'm assuming then that you're pretty sure of me and Breshke.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 07:29 GMT
#1992
It was a runoff between HTS and kush, so obviously HTS didn't initially vote himself.

Bats, Damdred, Hope and LS ran shennannies when I chose kush over HTS (I really hate meta defenses on ppl I've never played with by ppl I've never played with, cause I can't really confirm that very well), piled on me. Bats told HTS he'd best change votes or they'd lynch HTS. HTS refused. They didn't have enough to lynch me. Almost lynched HTS except two of the votes came in right at 00 and weren't counted.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 07:32 GMT
#1993
On December 05 2014 16:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also what bats said about his meta is also kinda true, he has quite a lot of posts compared to the other times he has rolled scum.

Didnt HTS vote kush?


I've read some of his games. I wasn't blowing smoke up anyone's arse about that. He does seem to be more active as town, it's true. He also filled up several pages just since LS flipped...very inactive Day 3. Quite active Day 1 and today when his name was being brought forward for lynch -shrugs- I didn't find the old games really definitive one way or another, taking into account alignment and how soon he was lynched/killed. But I haven't played with him before.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 17:02 GMT
#2003
On December 06 2014 01:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2014 01:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Go for it. Looking forward to reading them. I don't agree with most here putting you as #1 candidate for lynch but you lurking this long has bothered me. Because you haven't been here to post, I cannot read you well. Simple as.

That is where I stand. I have been told by Oats that RL reasons are not valid.

Take that as you will. But that is my position on you. Let me know any questions you have.

To be fair, irl reasons shouldn't be valid. The only content you have to read me by is
- defending kush
- thinking SL was scum

and not much else. And at this point in the game, unless I can prove I'm town somehow, I will very likely end up being lynched, if not today then tomorrow. All I need to do is establish which of meat/oats/bats is town before then and hope people listen to that.


True enough. If you can give us some reads on those three, HTS and I were already willing to vote someone else and Breshke is open-minded at least. Can't really speak for the other three.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 20:21 GMT
#2011
On December 06 2014 03:54 Half the Sky wrote:
Basically Hopeless my point here is, that it is possible to save you. Breshke's EoD is 8am and he's been up every EoD.
(Correct me if I'm wrong Rasputin.) I cannot speak for Breshke and cannot guarantee his action but I am just trying to say all isn't lost on your end.

He was the last two eods...dont remember the first.

I too would like to hear your reasoning, hope.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 20:51 GMT
#2013
Okay, well, last few thoughts from me. didnt want to broadcast earlier that i wouldnt be here for eod but im catching a flight that boards in 10 mins.

1. Ls sheeping argument has holes. i was pushing him day 2 before we consolidated and thus his biggest threat. he had every motivation to get rid of me. meat everyone was agreeing on so it would seem to be a safe vote.

2. We dont vote bats today, breshke or i bite it tonight (possibly hts but ppl still are doubting him for weak reasons) so today is probably our last chance.

3. All our question marks are on hopeless. bussing argument means nil if everyone under scrutiny can claim it.

4. Based on todays opinions we can still vote hope or meat pretty easily tomorrow.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 06 2014 00:25 GMT
#2093
Calm down folks. sucks to be wrong, but now hopeless appears to have lured bats out to vote meat, therefore killing himself. hope is now a pretty sure bet vice just a lurker
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 06 2014 01:16 GMT
#2095
Eh, nvm. I just noticed that 3-4 people changed their votes literally in the same minute. -_-

Lol, well, that was fun. A jumble like that makes it hard to judge anything...and it would have happened if I was here, too, cause vote changing like that invites trouble...meh
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 06 2014 01:19 GMT
#2096
On December 06 2014 10:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2014 09:25 rsoultin wrote:
Calm down folks. sucks to be wrong, but now hopeless appears to have lured bats out to vote meat, therefore killing himself. hope is now a pretty sure bet vice just a lurker

i mean when you put it like that, it sounds like i have fucking mind control powers. kneel before my might!


Not a mindreader, but that is the second time that you've started the shenanigans at EoD. Not making me feel good about you there, hopeless.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 06 2014 05:14 GMT
#2104
Dude, seriously? Hts never claimed that he thought hopeless was scummier. He just doesn't understand the clusterfuck of votes at the end, or why bats shifted his vote when there was no chance of lynching meat...though, to be fair, with everything happening all at once I'd be surprised if anyone was fully aware of what was happening. Correct me if I'm wrong for those who were there.

I'm more curious why you set the stage saying that HTS is "weird" during the day. Because you already know that meat will jump on that, and we're going into 3v2 lylo? -_-

And lol @ hopeless. Yes, I'm so grateful for you trying to get me lynched Day 2. Whatcha smokin' bro?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 06 2014 05:51 GMT
#2106
I'm betting you do.

That was the absolute worst case for suspecting anyone I'd ever seen. He's weird. Lol. No, wait. I've seen one where the reason was he wasn't drawing pictures.

And yes, I read it. He also said that he was reacting to the manner in which bats was lynched, and if you still don't get how ridiculous it is for HTS to be scum (when I know you're smarter than that) well...dude, you want to sell your story you're going to have to put up both of us.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 06 2014 06:12 GMT
#2108
It's not HTS, not unless he and hopeless somehow orchestrated a false almost lynching of him, which is possible. Heck, anything is possible right now lol. But unlikely. Unless you're saying that mafia hopeless and mafia ls both tried to buss their own guy and failed.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 06 2014 06:20 GMT
#2110
Yes, I see that I was wrong. At least about bats. :/ I hate meta...meta is kicking my ass this game though so lol, guess I can't keep ignoring it.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 06 2014 06:22 GMT
#2111
On December 06 2014 15:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
meh, more telling is the part where HTS thinks hes dead.

K fine he isnt scum.
That makes me sad.

Hopeless meat then.

SEE HOW MUCH EASIER THE GAME IS WHEN YOU LYNCH HOPELESS RSOULTIN??!?!


As an aside, if we're going with hopeless which I agree we should, we can't give him the opportunity to run shenanigans again. The blighter.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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