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I was there. I also acknowledged that in my reads. I didn't think mafia would bus yesterday unless they felt they had to. | ||
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Just get this feeling that today it'll be hopeless, tomorrow it'll be meat, and that's game. But I've been wrong before so...here's hoping I'm wrong again lol. | ||
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On December 05 2014 00:50 batsnacks wrote: HTS several people have explained why I'm town at every stage of the game. Why do you/rs keep saying there's no precedent for me being town? You're either not reading or selectively reading. Weird way to phrase it. What are you actually asking? As for several people explaining why...he's talking too much to be scum is kind of a laughable defense imo. Especially when none of the games I saw you in you were a complete non-entity. But then, I keep saying I don't trust meta, and everyone here still likes to try to shove it down my throat. This obsession with how many pages is in someone's filter seems to be a pretty superficial way to go scum hunting. And a very easy one to get around. | ||
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On December 05 2014 00:59 Oatsmaster wrote: It really doesnt make sense rsoultin. It does to me if I think there's a very viable chance that you and bats are a scum team. You don't have to like that I don't trust you, but it does make sense. | ||
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And until bats flips I'm going to suspect him, plain and simple. He's been screaming scum to me for days. I could be wrong...of course I could. But just knowing his alignment would make me feel more comfortable going into tomorrow -_- | ||
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This lurker argument has served us so well in the past, after all. | ||
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On December 05 2014 01:51 batsnacks wrote: You know who likes to tunnel? Scum You know who doesn't like to re-evaluate the game? Scum You know who asks for evidence, ignores it, and then pretends it doesn't exist? Scum Lol, oh but I have 14 pages in my filter! By your logic I must be golden. I'm voting you because I think you or hopeless scum and between you or him, yes, I think you're the more dangerous scum to leave around. Precisely because ppl are buying your crap. I read your "evidence". Not only have you given me nothing from this game at all, but you don't even lurk as scum. Post less, maybe, but you are still an active participant. If that's your only defense, it's not good enough for me. Sorry. | ||
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Not really that concerned here, bats. You convince people to lynch me, tell them tomorrow that hey, it was still a good call cause I'm too stubborn...not much different than passively lynching hope. A mislynch is a mislynch. | ||
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On December 05 2014 02:31 rsoultin wrote: I said you two are most likely scum. And I've said from the beginning I doubt that you both are. This really isn't that hard to grasp, bats. | ||
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Make your case if you're going to make it. My reads and thought process have been out there since LS flipped. If town decides to lynch me for not buying that we should default to lurkers over my strongest scum read, town deserves to lose. So far your biggest complaint is that I want to lynch you first. And that lynching lurkers is better. I disagree. No surprise there. | ||
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The lynch I don't understand is meat. Even after you explained it, it didn't make much sense. Meat probably flips town, and if he doesn't it's a finger pointing storm lol that I doubt we can afford this late in the game. Care to explain that one? (Nevermind explaining why you think voting someone who is "ignorant" over scum is a good idea) | ||
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On December 05 2014 07:40 Breshke wrote: Rsoultin what do you think of meat thinking HTS is scum? Also batsnacks you were getting confused when he reffered to something as a miss lynch he was referring to himself not hopeless. I also hope you didnt actually think rsoultin was mafia there as well. Honestly, Breshke, I'd have to go back through and see what about HTS has had meat gunning for him...this isn't the first time he's mentioned this. In broad strokes, however, there have been multiple times where meat has made reads/posted where it's clear he's been skimming and not reading. Which may explain why his posts make so little sense to you (I think you were the one who mentioned that, earlier.) Meat makes me uncomfortable. He's a shit lynch for the second mafia, though, at least unless there are no other options. And it is entirely possible that he's simply not putting in the effort to read the thread, or is playing badly because he's new. That said, he may have a good reason for seeing HTS as scum, so I will go back through his filter to see what the triggers seem to be. On December 05 2014 06:51 batsnacks wrote: This is really boring. ##unvote ##vote: Hopeless1der Pot. You're the king of avoiding questions, lol. At least this time it's boring and not just you not thinking when you post.  | ||
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Meat started out fine with HTS On November 29 2014 10:03 meatpudding wrote: So, my top scum read right now is kush. I'm on the fence about both Bats and Damdred. On bats, I haven't really been reading him as scummy for most of the game. So far, each case I have seen is not convincing enough for me. His posts are either null or town leaning for the most part. In fact, I would have put bats as a town lean which is the most likely scenario, except for something which make me consider a world where he is scum. His outright agreement with kush being the main thing. I haven't been convinced and I don't buy that bats would read kush town after such a brief amount of posting. So, because I feel that it's about 60-40 that he is town, I am calling it a fence read. On Damdred, I was leaning scum D1, but after that I have no strong feelings one way or the other. It's pretty obvious that he's not scum team with sicklucker as I first thought. And I doubt that he is scum team with bats. It could be the case, but I think a better guess is kush/bats or kush/damdred. Damdred's posts come off to me as distractions to town. He is acting very defensive about everything. He is asking questions often, but I don't see how they shape his reads. I feel like he is pushing on everyone who makes any kind of statement against him, but is just trying to corner them or wear them down in a 'do you really think that' kind of way. So, I don't really agree with his reads at all and I feel like he should have come a lot further than he has, considering his post count. I don't get his defence of bats, though I am inclined to believe that bats could be town maybe damd is trying to pocket. On kush, I have seen him as the most scummy player so far. He lurked D1 and basically didn't post anything except to directly answer questions. I think this is not even a null read, this is scummy, there is very little put forward to help town. What bothers me more about this is that even though he has not done anything to earn a town read, I feel like he has been given a free pass to the game. So I'm not sure what to make of this. Would his scum partner have the balls to say that kush is def town? I think that is a pretty bold move but it's wifom to think about. His D2 reads have been no better, and basically random. Breske? (lol) HtS? I don't feel that either. Is he just trying to see what sticks and jump on a wagon without making a case? Meanwhile he I feel like he is being covered for by a partner. Either that or town is being really dopey. LS i am null leaning scum. I think he pretty much takes slam's place on the list. Something about his posts has kind of bothered me, like he's lurking but not pushing. What makes me suspicious enough to call scum is that kush never mentions him nor interacts with him at all. He gives a D1 scum read with no backup and then just drops on it. Hm. My town reads from least to most are oats, HtS, rasputin, sicklucker and breshke. The last three especially are pretty legit. The flip seemed to come from that voting analysis. On December 01 2014 09:56 meatpudding wrote: here's some vote analysis that i wrote during the night. I'm going to have to rearead and revise my reads obviously. HtS Votes kush obviously to keep himself alive when he was the other wagon. Can't read into the alignment here. meat You can see my reasoning for suspecting kush in my other posts. Breshke Idk why breshke chose to vote kush, maybe because he was lurking. rsoultin Not sure actually why he votes kush when he said Damdred was his scum read. D1 final count batsnacks (2): Oatsmaster, Trfel, Breshke Dicksmash Mcironcock (6): kushm4sta, Damdred, Half the Sky, LightningStrike, SickLucker, rsoultin, Alakaslam sicklucker (1): meatpudding Trfel (1): batsnacks D2 final count Kushm4sta (4): Breshke, meatpudding, Half the Sky, rsoultin Half the Sky (3): Oatsmaster, Batsnacks, LightningStrike rsoultin (2): Hopeless1der,Damdred batsnacks (1): sicklucker conclusion excluding sl and breshke for the time being pretty unlikely that hopeless and damdred are both scums, but likely that one of them are. one of oats, bats, LS likely to me mafia one of hts, rasputin. I'm kind of leaning town on both hts and rasputin. I would consider taking another look at brashke. Kush's suggestion on the roleblock scenario seems too far-fetched. MAYBE the roleblocker was afk and breshke claimed, I doubt it so much. My best guess based on the votes is HtS, LS, Damdred That was before he realized that Damdred was night-killed...and yeah Oats said it, that this assumes that mafia never votes together on anything. Beyond that I see a little back and forth between HTS and meat... Some of meat's earlier reads were well-thought out, though. I'd like to see some real reads from him again. @Oats, I took the time to read the context for most of HTS' posts...I'm probably just being paranoid about you and bats lol. Though bats is still my top scum read. One question though: On November 28 2014 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah pretty much. Hes a straight up coinflip. We only have 1 more lynch before either mylo or lylo. Lets not lynch a coinflip. What's changed between then and now? | ||
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