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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 03 2014 23:01 GMT
#1848
How is meat more safe for town to vote than hopeless?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 03 2014 23:09 GMT
#1850
Well, I've made no bones about believing that meat is town.

You flip town, I'd push for hopeless, our lurker.
I'm pretty sure it's one of you.

Now please answer my question.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 03 2014 23:24 GMT
#1853
Well, you haven't convinced me yet, sorry. You've got plenty of time to come up with something though, and if not me, maybe you'll convince the others here. Gl.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 03 2014 23:41 GMT
#1857
Got links?

I've already made it well-known that I don't trust meta, but I am willing to look to avoid lylo.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 03 2014 23:47 GMT
#1859
Ty...I'm not sure where to find these on the site. If you (or anyone else) would be willing to link me to the database with the games you've participated in that would be great.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 00:20 GMT
#1867
I can see your point, Breshke. I'll go through the threads and see what is there.

The other purpose for that post could be to take suspicion off Oats if bats and Oats are working together, though, so going to leave my vote where it is. Could buy the whole I don't think thing, but I'm still not good with policy lynches over scum reads. So I'll go digging as you suggested bats. Give me some reads while I do so, will you? Hope is just one player.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 00:43 GMT
#1868
Yo, Breshke, you may want to take a look at bats' filters, too. I wouldn't exactly call him inactive as mafia. Gonna pop in on his town threads.

Bats, you're probably going to need more than this as your defense, just sayin'. You've also used the argument about not lynching people active in the thread over people with small filters before, too.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 00:49 GMT
#1870
EBWOP: Though you do seem to be generally more active when vanilla than mafia, that's true @bats
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 00:52 GMT
#1871
Ah. Lol. Okay. Yeah, see my thought process is hopeless and bats probably aren't mafia together, so I was going with my stronger scum read. Also...I have a sneaking suspicion about oats that I'd like to investigate. Bats flips scum we've got wiggle room. If not it almost clears oats for me...because its oats' almost ignoring bats as possible scum that makes me itch about him. That and definitive statements he's always making.

Maybe Oats is always that sure of himself though.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 02:45 GMT
#1886
On December 04 2014 10:16 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 22:41 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 03 2014 13:02 rsoultin wrote:
Bats reads super scummy to me. Hope is a null. He did try to get me to play ball with him end of day 2, however, which is odd to me for scum.


Damn quote boxes.

I'll be completely honest, Rasputin, I might sound crazy here, but I just haven't been impressed with Meat's posting at all this game. Maybe it's inexperience, I think we're all learning. But even as a beginner myself I've had a difficult time following where he's trying to go with his posts half the time. Although now, I'm not as convinced he is scum after re-reading LS's posts.

There are eight alive right now. I'm good on you, Breshke, SL, Rasputin

We have Meat, Hopeless, Oats and Bats left.

Meat could be scum, but it's unlikely, though I will admit I'm not sold on an argument yet as to why he's not. He did say he's bad at his defense, EoD D3.

Hopeless is a complete tossup.

Bats is the clear scum for me. I think if we take him out, that will reveal all we need to know about Oats.

So in order: Bats, Hopeless and a tossup between Oats and Meat.


What would a bats flip tell you about oats? If bats flips, to me that would suggest that oats is a team, and that they were staging a bus. Can you confirm if this is what you are trying to say.


Oats has been half-defending bats and directing the lynch toward hopeless instead without actually saying that he thinks bats is town. You should probably just read the night posts for yourself and make your own judgment call.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 02:49 GMT
#1887
On December 04 2014 10:44 meatpudding wrote:
sl was for pushing hopeless today, he said it several times. Did he give any reason for it? Perhaps it was by the process of elimination by who he thought was town? If I remember correctly it was oats who suggested first to lynch hopeless.


Again, should probably just read the night posts. You'll see who SL was pushing and why.

My problem with hopeless is he's basically a policy lynch, which at this point in the game I feel is insufficient unless you genuinely think all the rest of us are town.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 02:55 GMT
#1889
I'm not reading meat as scum, Bats. You already know this.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 03:53 GMT
#1895
Can probably find the quote for you, meat, but he really is just echoing me. HTS, SL and I were more or less in agreement last night before SL was killed. Take that as you will.

I don't disagree with lynching hopeless on principle. Once again it looks like we're all going to be piling on the same person, though. Except bats who suddenly reversed who he wanted to vote without being able to explain it (at least not very well when I questioned his decision). Trying to tell me that you really think mafia is going to buss their last partner voluntarily when they just lost LS? I'm kind of surprised we're buying into the same mentality as yesterday.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 05:04 GMT
#1902
Simply put my theory is based on the assumption that you are town meat and that scum isnt dumb enough to bpoth all vote for you and all play shenanigans with damdred end of day 2. So hopeless or bats as scum not both.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 05:47 GMT
#1906
I can understand why you might think that and if hopeless continues to be awol then i am willing to vote him. but consider this at least...we all pile on hope its gonna be hella hard to get anything from his flipping scum if he does
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 06:42 GMT
#1908
On December 04 2014 13:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Sl wasn't killed cause he was right, he was killed because he wasn't a mislynch opportunity


I'm not sure why you said this Oats. No one claimed or implied otherwise. I'm simply not pretending that it was anything other than my convincing the two through my arguments and the fact that they believe me to be town that we should go with bats for the lynch. HTS all but said he would follow my lead before he left today -shrugs-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 06:46 GMT
#1909
On December 04 2014 15:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Who gives a shit that he doesn't "implicate" someone rsoultin?
Scum dies. That's good enough for me.


Because, and you are not a fool so you already know this, a scum death puts off lylo but doesn't stop it. I'm more or less the only one (though bats did intimate that a scum meat might have you as a partner) who thinks you may be scum. Is it such a terrible thing to prove me wrong? lol So who do you think is scum, oats? You said not meat earlier. You keep pushing hopeless. There has to be a third. If it's bats, what's the problem? Unless you're afraid of what will happen when he flips scum...
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 07:05 GMT
#1912
We are currently at 5 town to 2 mafia.

A mislynch today puts that at 3 town to 2 mafia. We are no better off today than we were yesterday.

And people want to lynch a coin flip. Or gamble on both options yesterday being scum...2 out of 9. Possible, but highly improbable, especially with an early vote buss. Explain to me, please, breshke, what the purpose of an early vote buss would be for mafia? Later on in the day it makes sense. These votes came in within the first hour or so, one right after the other.

We miss we're at lylo tomorrow. Who do we vote off of hopeless not flipping? Bats? Oats? Meat? Who do we vote if he does flip? What does hopeless tell us? He's been so afk we can't really analyze him even if he flips scum. Town missing today is mafia's best hope. Because they only have to misdirect us one more time. Town missing today is mafia's best hope. Why would they buss? If your doubts are all pushing hopeless why are you falling into line?

We get it right...we start tomorrow at 4:1. We mislynch it goes 2:1. You really want to start tomorrow, either in lylo or mylo, with a flip that doesn't give us any further information? It's not enough just to get scum.

But I've made my stance clear, and I'm not going to keep pounding it in. There are five town here today. Hopefully we can get this one right.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 07:21 GMT
#1914
On December 04 2014 16:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Meat was looking around in sl's filter so I said that yeah, mafia didn't kill sl to cover up sl's reads.


Fair enough. I told him to look through the night posts to make his own judgments, however, rather than giving him a play-by-play tainted with my biases.

But I'm super paranoid.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 04 2014 08:05 GMT
#1917
@Breshke. You make a valid point. Oats wasn't around for a good 8 hours leading up to EoD, so I'm not sure he would have had the opportunity to hammer meat, and LS' days were numbered regardless. He would have been the lynch today if he wasn't yesterday. If any of the four could pull off not getting lynched simply by appearing town it's Oats, and bussing LS who was obviously going to be lynched would be a great way to do that.

So it's paranoia, flat-out. I want something to work with along with the wiggle room.

Hopeless tells us nothing because he's been afk and analysis will mean jack shit.

Meat opens a can of worms if he flips scum, and tells us nothing if he flips town.

A town bats makes a scum hopeless way more likely, and all but clears oats. I don't like being paranoid lol. I want the question answered. If he flips scum we have wiggle room to check oats for ourselves. And I do not like how he flipped from meat being town to meat being scum overnight, so he could seemingly buddy up to bats.

What has bats said since last night that makes you read him null now, Oats?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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