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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 16:34 GMT
#2001
So I didn't filter everyone, but the day2 votecount trumps alot of the content reads. POE gives me meat, batsnacks, oats for possible scum.

Breshke claimed roleblock N1, that is literally enough for me to townread him the rest of the game.

HTS - Day2 vote shenanigans mean he's probably town. Unless rsoul and hts are both scum, scum!hts had every incentive to switch onto town!rsoul. He was around and able to switch but chose not to.

rsoultin - LS was too eager to hop onto his wagon end of day2. Why would mafia risk a teammate like that when LS could have easily parked his vote on kush? rsoul town.



Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 16:36 GMT
#2002
On December 06 2014 01:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Go for it. Looking forward to reading them. I don't agree with most here putting you as #1 candidate for lynch but you lurking this long has bothered me. Because you haven't been here to post, I cannot read you well. Simple as.

That is where I stand. I have been told by Oats that RL reasons are not valid.

Take that as you will. But that is my position on you. Let me know any questions you have.

To be fair, irl reasons shouldn't be valid. The only content you have to read me by is
- defending kush
- thinking SL was scum

and not much else. And at this point in the game, unless I can prove I'm town somehow, I will very likely end up being lynched, if not today then tomorrow. All I need to do is establish which of meat/oats/bats is town before then and hope people listen to that.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 17:02 GMT
#2003
On December 06 2014 01:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2014 01:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Go for it. Looking forward to reading them. I don't agree with most here putting you as #1 candidate for lynch but you lurking this long has bothered me. Because you haven't been here to post, I cannot read you well. Simple as.

That is where I stand. I have been told by Oats that RL reasons are not valid.

Take that as you will. But that is my position on you. Let me know any questions you have.

To be fair, irl reasons shouldn't be valid. The only content you have to read me by is
- defending kush
- thinking SL was scum

and not much else. And at this point in the game, unless I can prove I'm town somehow, I will very likely end up being lynched, if not today then tomorrow. All I need to do is establish which of meat/oats/bats is town before then and hope people listen to that.


True enough. If you can give us some reads on those three, HTS and I were already willing to vote someone else and Breshke is open-minded at least. Can't really speak for the other three.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 17:38 GMT
#2004
Fair play then. I'll keep that in mind going for future games here if that's the standard.
Much appreciated on the reads, any guidance is great going forward.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 18:32 GMT
#2005
fck it, oats is town. lynch meat and bats gg.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 18:47 GMT
#2006
You've voted Meat I think, we have our votes on Bats atm...breshke gets up barely before EoD.
EoD is 10pm here, I'll be around depending on what you all want to do. I won't seak for Rasutin but Meat isn't scum to me atm so it doesn't appear my vote is going anywhere.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 18:54 GMT
#2007
Basically Hopeless my point here is, that it is possible to save you. Breshke's EoD is 8am and he's been up every EoD.
(Correct me if I'm wrong Rasputin.) I cannot speak for Breshke and cannot guarantee his action but I am just trying to say all isn't lost on your end.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 18:54 GMT
#2008
that vote on meat was yesterday. I'll be around at deadline but I'm fine with
#vote batsnacks
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
December 05 2014 19:17 GMT
#2009
Vote Count

Hopeless1der (4): Breshke, Oatsmaster, Meatpudding, batsnacks
batsnacks (3): Half the Sky, rsoultin, Hopeless1der

Currently, Hopeless1der is set to be lynched. Day 4 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 19:49 GMT
#2010
Hopeless, what specifically stuck out to you about Bats/Meat?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 20:21 GMT
#2011
On December 06 2014 03:54 Half the Sky wrote:
Basically Hopeless my point here is, that it is possible to save you. Breshke's EoD is 8am and he's been up every EoD.
(Correct me if I'm wrong Rasputin.) I cannot speak for Breshke and cannot guarantee his action but I am just trying to say all isn't lost on your end.

He was the last two eods...dont remember the first.

I too would like to hear your reasoning, hope.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 05 2014 20:35 GMT
#2012
Furthermore what makes oats town to you?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 20:51 GMT
#2013
Okay, well, last few thoughts from me. didnt want to broadcast earlier that i wouldnt be here for eod but im catching a flight that boards in 10 mins.

1. Ls sheeping argument has holes. i was pushing him day 2 before we consolidated and thus his biggest threat. he had every motivation to get rid of me. meat everyone was agreeing on so it would seem to be a safe vote.

2. We dont vote bats today, breshke or i bite it tonight (possibly hts but ppl still are doubting him for weak reasons) so today is probably our last chance.

3. All our question marks are on hopeless. bussing argument means nil if everyone under scrutiny can claim it.

4. Based on todays opinions we can still vote hope or meat pretty easily tomorrow.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 20:56 GMT
#2014
I could find stuff thats scummy about all of them, I think what I find on oats is weakest.

meat has a similar length of filter as me, but his content isn't his own or its poorly constructed.

Re: Day2 votecount analysis
On December 01 2014 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats some horrible vote analysis meatpudding.

You didnt look at the context behind the votes, you just simplistically assumed that mafia wont all be on the same wagon.
UNTRUE.

##vote meatpudding

Has spent this day saying "Hopeless is scum but I dont remember why"
"SL says he's scum, why did he say that?"
"SL says Hopeless and Bats are scum because everyone else is town"

'Lynch hopeless then HTS"

wait what happened with that last one? Again, oats comes in to question meat for all the right reasons.
On December 04 2014 13:22 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 13:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
I said why man meat. Have you even read his filter?

It's not like there is a lot of posts, why can't you make up your own mind?


What? I have said what I'm thinking so far. To repeat, it's voting hl. But I was looking into sl as well because he was saying the same thing but I wanted to be sure why he thought that. It turns out that his argument was poe. All you said on hopeless was that he was lurking and said scummy shit. We still have all day to consolidate on a vote and it can't be that hard. Again, it's not that I don't agree with your conclusion but why can't you go into what you think the scummy shit is?





With bats hard defending LS, it makes him look bad but then again, meat is also really scummy so to me bats just picked one of them to bus and one to defend. Bats has been evasive all game, getting reads from him has been pulling teeth. He was only saved because of Damdred imo and that threw a lot of people for a loop and I dont think bats has been properly re-evaluated, he's just kind of been scummy and still here.



my biggest reasons for oats being scum are that he is absolutely adamant that I'm scum and wont do anything else until I'm lynched. However that's not really true. Stubborn oats is generally town oats, but instead of being happy meat is ready to lynch me, he takes the time to question meat's motive. That just feels really townie to me.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 21:03 GMT
#2015
Thank you for the detailed analysis. Now I don't feel so bad for not being able to follow or understand Meatpudding easily.
He is a new player but I cannot grasp where he's going or coming from with his posts. We tried to figure what I did to trigger him.

My biggest issue with him is a lack of defence for his end.

It's not fully indicative or definite but it makes sense.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 21:11 GMT
#2016
I hope Breshke arrives soon. He expressed he wanted to hear you out. I think he will find this useful regardless his decision.

Gahhhhh, stupid time zones.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 21:14 GMT
#2017
Safe travels Rasputin.

#2 is what makes me worried. Trfel died, I almost died, SL died....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 05 2014 21:14 GMT
#2018
Im here HTS
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 05 2014 21:19 GMT
#2019
The problem is i agree with everything hopeless says but is it too little to late. Like obviously he has had irl reasons which is fair enough but like he said if he doesn't get lynched today then he is very likely to be lynched tomorrow. He is stil such a question mark and do we really want him to be around in lylo.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 05 2014 21:22 GMT
#2020
If anyone else is around i would appreciate their opinions on hopeless.
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