• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 15:01
CET 21:01
KST 05:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion6Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Video Footage from 2005: The Birth of G2 in Spain BW General Discussion BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1259 users

Student Mafia IV (New/Newish Players Welcome) - Page 101

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 99 100 101 102 103 111 Next
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 16:34 GMT
#2001
So I didn't filter everyone, but the day2 votecount trumps alot of the content reads. POE gives me meat, batsnacks, oats for possible scum.

Breshke claimed roleblock N1, that is literally enough for me to townread him the rest of the game.

HTS - Day2 vote shenanigans mean he's probably town. Unless rsoul and hts are both scum, scum!hts had every incentive to switch onto town!rsoul. He was around and able to switch but chose not to.

rsoultin - LS was too eager to hop onto his wagon end of day2. Why would mafia risk a teammate like that when LS could have easily parked his vote on kush? rsoul town.



Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 16:36 GMT
#2002
On December 06 2014 01:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Go for it. Looking forward to reading them. I don't agree with most here putting you as #1 candidate for lynch but you lurking this long has bothered me. Because you haven't been here to post, I cannot read you well. Simple as.

That is where I stand. I have been told by Oats that RL reasons are not valid.

Take that as you will. But that is my position on you. Let me know any questions you have.

To be fair, irl reasons shouldn't be valid. The only content you have to read me by is
- defending kush
- thinking SL was scum

and not much else. And at this point in the game, unless I can prove I'm town somehow, I will very likely end up being lynched, if not today then tomorrow. All I need to do is establish which of meat/oats/bats is town before then and hope people listen to that.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 17:02 GMT
#2003
On December 06 2014 01:36 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2014 01:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Go for it. Looking forward to reading them. I don't agree with most here putting you as #1 candidate for lynch but you lurking this long has bothered me. Because you haven't been here to post, I cannot read you well. Simple as.

That is where I stand. I have been told by Oats that RL reasons are not valid.

Take that as you will. But that is my position on you. Let me know any questions you have.

To be fair, irl reasons shouldn't be valid. The only content you have to read me by is
- defending kush
- thinking SL was scum

and not much else. And at this point in the game, unless I can prove I'm town somehow, I will very likely end up being lynched, if not today then tomorrow. All I need to do is establish which of meat/oats/bats is town before then and hope people listen to that.


True enough. If you can give us some reads on those three, HTS and I were already willing to vote someone else and Breshke is open-minded at least. Can't really speak for the other three.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 17:38 GMT
#2004
Fair play then. I'll keep that in mind going for future games here if that's the standard.
Much appreciated on the reads, any guidance is great going forward.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 18:32 GMT
#2005
fck it, oats is town. lynch meat and bats gg.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 18:47 GMT
#2006
You've voted Meat I think, we have our votes on Bats atm...breshke gets up barely before EoD.
EoD is 10pm here, I'll be around depending on what you all want to do. I won't seak for Rasutin but Meat isn't scum to me atm so it doesn't appear my vote is going anywhere.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 18:54 GMT
#2007
Basically Hopeless my point here is, that it is possible to save you. Breshke's EoD is 8am and he's been up every EoD.
(Correct me if I'm wrong Rasputin.) I cannot speak for Breshke and cannot guarantee his action but I am just trying to say all isn't lost on your end.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 18:54 GMT
#2008
that vote on meat was yesterday. I'll be around at deadline but I'm fine with
#vote batsnacks
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
December 05 2014 19:17 GMT
#2009
Vote Count

Hopeless1der (4): Breshke, Oatsmaster, Meatpudding, batsnacks
batsnacks (3): Half the Sky, rsoultin, Hopeless1der

Currently, Hopeless1der is set to be lynched. Day 4 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 19:49 GMT
#2010
Hopeless, what specifically stuck out to you about Bats/Meat?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 20:21 GMT
#2011
On December 06 2014 03:54 Half the Sky wrote:
Basically Hopeless my point here is, that it is possible to save you. Breshke's EoD is 8am and he's been up every EoD.
(Correct me if I'm wrong Rasputin.) I cannot speak for Breshke and cannot guarantee his action but I am just trying to say all isn't lost on your end.

He was the last two eods...dont remember the first.

I too would like to hear your reasoning, hope.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 05 2014 20:35 GMT
#2012
Furthermore what makes oats town to you?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 05 2014 20:51 GMT
#2013
Okay, well, last few thoughts from me. didnt want to broadcast earlier that i wouldnt be here for eod but im catching a flight that boards in 10 mins.

1. Ls sheeping argument has holes. i was pushing him day 2 before we consolidated and thus his biggest threat. he had every motivation to get rid of me. meat everyone was agreeing on so it would seem to be a safe vote.

2. We dont vote bats today, breshke or i bite it tonight (possibly hts but ppl still are doubting him for weak reasons) so today is probably our last chance.

3. All our question marks are on hopeless. bussing argument means nil if everyone under scrutiny can claim it.

4. Based on todays opinions we can still vote hope or meat pretty easily tomorrow.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 05 2014 20:56 GMT
#2014
I could find stuff thats scummy about all of them, I think what I find on oats is weakest.

meat has a similar length of filter as me, but his content isn't his own or its poorly constructed.

Re: Day2 votecount analysis
On December 01 2014 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats some horrible vote analysis meatpudding.

You didnt look at the context behind the votes, you just simplistically assumed that mafia wont all be on the same wagon.
UNTRUE.

##vote meatpudding

Has spent this day saying "Hopeless is scum but I dont remember why"
"SL says he's scum, why did he say that?"
"SL says Hopeless and Bats are scum because everyone else is town"

'Lynch hopeless then HTS"

wait what happened with that last one? Again, oats comes in to question meat for all the right reasons.
On December 04 2014 13:22 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 13:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
I said why man meat. Have you even read his filter?

It's not like there is a lot of posts, why can't you make up your own mind?


What? I have said what I'm thinking so far. To repeat, it's voting hl. But I was looking into sl as well because he was saying the same thing but I wanted to be sure why he thought that. It turns out that his argument was poe. All you said on hopeless was that he was lurking and said scummy shit. We still have all day to consolidate on a vote and it can't be that hard. Again, it's not that I don't agree with your conclusion but why can't you go into what you think the scummy shit is?





With bats hard defending LS, it makes him look bad but then again, meat is also really scummy so to me bats just picked one of them to bus and one to defend. Bats has been evasive all game, getting reads from him has been pulling teeth. He was only saved because of Damdred imo and that threw a lot of people for a loop and I dont think bats has been properly re-evaluated, he's just kind of been scummy and still here.



my biggest reasons for oats being scum are that he is absolutely adamant that I'm scum and wont do anything else until I'm lynched. However that's not really true. Stubborn oats is generally town oats, but instead of being happy meat is ready to lynch me, he takes the time to question meat's motive. That just feels really townie to me.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 21:03 GMT
#2015
Thank you for the detailed analysis. Now I don't feel so bad for not being able to follow or understand Meatpudding easily.
He is a new player but I cannot grasp where he's going or coming from with his posts. We tried to figure what I did to trigger him.

My biggest issue with him is a lack of defence for his end.

It's not fully indicative or definite but it makes sense.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 21:11 GMT
#2016
I hope Breshke arrives soon. He expressed he wanted to hear you out. I think he will find this useful regardless his decision.

Gahhhhh, stupid time zones.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 05 2014 21:14 GMT
#2017
Safe travels Rasputin.

#2 is what makes me worried. Trfel died, I almost died, SL died....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 05 2014 21:14 GMT
#2018
Im here HTS
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 05 2014 21:19 GMT
#2019
The problem is i agree with everything hopeless says but is it too little to late. Like obviously he has had irl reasons which is fair enough but like he said if he doesn't get lynched today then he is very likely to be lynched tomorrow. He is stil such a question mark and do we really want him to be around in lylo.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
December 05 2014 21:22 GMT
#2020
If anyone else is around i would appreciate their opinions on hopeless.
Prev 1 99 100 101 102 103 111 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IPSL
20:00
Grand Finals
Dewalt vs Sziky
Liquipedia
BSL 21
20:00
Non-Korean Championship - D4
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 509
IndyStarCraft 188
JuggernautJason74
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2138
Shuttle 642
ZZZero.O 88
Mini 65
910 29
Dota 2
Gorgc8319
Counter-Strike
fl0m2777
byalli2679
Other Games
FrodaN6754
summit1g4663
Grubby3748
Liquid`RaSZi2713
B2W.Neo900
crisheroes418
Liquid`Hasu302
Harstem290
ToD170
ArmadaUGS154
mouzStarbuck139
Mew2King16
Railgan1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2596
EGCTV1237
StarCraft 2
angryscii 28
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 41
• Reevou 22
• Laughngamez YouTube
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix10
• Airneanach7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2939
• TFBlade966
Other Games
• imaqtpie2476
• Shiphtur286
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
12h 59m
Wardi Open
15h 59m
Monday Night Weeklies
20h 59m
OSC
1d 14h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Big Brain Bouts
4 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
5 days
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.