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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 23 2014 23:42 GMT
#1705
On November 24 2014 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 13:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 22 2014 13:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm back at T-minus 11 and I'm very drunk so I'll just type it out:

Emergency Votecount

KillerSOS (4): The_Templar, Hopeless1der, GlowingBear, Alakaslam
hopeless1der (3): Holyflare, VisceraEyes, ritoky
sicklucker (3): Fecalfeast, Chezinu, Damdred
TheTemplar (2): liancourt, raynpelikoneet
liancourt (1): KillerSOS
Damdred (1): sicklucker

rayn and Damdred still need a pic by the end of Night 1

This is the lynching priority order for clarification


I think there was at least 1 mafia on SOS. HF was wrong and VE is probably actually vig.
I could see ritoky hanging on that counterwagon in case people from killerSoS start switching.
I have lian and rayn as town and they are doing many more things than I so there's a little sheeping here too.
Sicklucker's vote was a throw away vote, not saying that's very alignment indicative but last game when he was a possible lynch target he hopped on the other bandwagon just to not die and he was town. No, he probably wasn't going to get lynched over hopeless or SOS but it feels more like trying to stay away from the wagons to avoid suspicion to me.

Vote logic and sheeping list:
probably mafia:
templar
ritoky

possibly mafia
GB
slam
sicklucker

probably town
lian
rayn
ve

everyone else meh
[image loading]


this post is like....really bad...like bad bad bad bad; it is a complete and utter sheep outside of his mafia read on me which seems to be "there had to be a mafia on templar and poe means ritoky"? why did no1 comment on this?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 23 2014 23:44 GMT
#1707
On November 24 2014 08:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Why don't you give a "deep" read then ritoky?
All you have done is scumreading me for the hopeless thing.

I'm mafia just for that?
And if yes, who are my partners?


can't right now, watching sounders and seahawks game simultaneously, maybe later i will show you
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 23 2014 23:47 GMT
#1709
however suggestions are quotes, specific highlighted examples, and easily understandable continuous logic are the basis for deep reads.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 00:08 GMT
#1720
On November 24 2014 08:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 08:44 ritoky wrote:
On November 24 2014 08:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Why don't you give a "deep" read then ritoky?
All you have done is scumreading me for the hopeless thing.

I'm mafia just for that?
And if yes, who are my partners?


can't right now, watching sounders and seahawks game simultaneously, maybe later i will show you


This is why I want to lynch you. You're forcing this lynch on me or at least drawing suspicions to me. But when asked to give other reads, you refuse. I'm almost sure you're scum.


reads:
VE - town
rayn - still town
lian - maybe town
fecalfeast - very slight mafia lean
damdred - leaning mafia
templar - leaning mafia
GB - mafia

not particularly strong feelings on the rest, wouldnt be surprised if there's a mafia between slam and chez and i am wrong on someone.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 00:11 GMT
#1724
On November 24 2014 09:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 09:08 ritoky wrote:
On November 24 2014 08:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 24 2014 08:44 ritoky wrote:
On November 24 2014 08:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Why don't you give a "deep" read then ritoky?
All you have done is scumreading me for the hopeless thing.

I'm mafia just for that?
And if yes, who are my partners?


can't right now, watching sounders and seahawks game simultaneously, maybe later i will show you


This is why I want to lynch you. You're forcing this lynch on me or at least drawing suspicions to me. But when asked to give other reads, you refuse. I'm almost sure you're scum.


reads:
VE - town
rayn - still town
lian - maybe town
fecalfeast - very slight mafia lean
damdred - leaning mafia
templar - leaning mafia
GB - mafia

not particularly strong feelings on the rest, wouldnt be surprised if there's a mafia between slam and chez and i am wrong on someone.


I'm mafia calling 2 of my partners town when people are calling them scum.

Yeah, right.

Very deep reads you have here. Owait.


told you i couldn't and would later, you bitch and whine that i won't even give you a hint; then i give them to you with the promise of explanation later, and you whine some more. like srsly you have 0 agenda with this other than to piss me off.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 00:17 GMT
#1727
On November 24 2014 09:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 09:11 ritoky wrote:
On November 24 2014 09:10 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 24 2014 09:08 ritoky wrote:
On November 24 2014 08:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 24 2014 08:44 ritoky wrote:
On November 24 2014 08:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Why don't you give a "deep" read then ritoky?
All you have done is scumreading me for the hopeless thing.

I'm mafia just for that?
And if yes, who are my partners?


can't right now, watching sounders and seahawks game simultaneously, maybe later i will show you


This is why I want to lynch you. You're forcing this lynch on me or at least drawing suspicions to me. But when asked to give other reads, you refuse. I'm almost sure you're scum.


reads:
VE - town
rayn - still town
lian - maybe town
fecalfeast - very slight mafia lean
damdred - leaning mafia
templar - leaning mafia
GB - mafia

not particularly strong feelings on the rest, wouldnt be surprised if there's a mafia between slam and chez and i am wrong on someone.


I'm mafia calling 2 of my partners town when people are calling them scum.

Yeah, right.

Very deep reads you have here. Owait.


told you i couldn't and would later, you bitch and whine that i won't even give you a hint; then i give them to you with the promise of explanation later, and you whine some more. like srsly you have 0 agenda with this other than to piss me off.


Yeah, take your time to find reasons behind your reads.


w/e done talking to you, you're scum just trying to piss people off. don't even give a shit what you say for the rest of the game.

but just to show your antagonistic ass:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/arizona-cardinals-seattle-seahawks-20141123026/

http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/mls/la-galaxy-seattle-sounders-fc-21730/

oh wow, look at that! someone not lying about doing shit irl! imagine that.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 00:38 GMT
#1734
On November 24 2014 09:30 liancourt wrote:
[image loading]


missing my scum read on damdred
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 00:38 GMT
#1735
On November 24 2014 09:38 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 09:30 liancourt wrote:
[image loading]


missing my scum read on damdred


nvm i am blind
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 12:49 GMT
#1794
On November 24 2014 20:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 16:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE vore for GB.
He voted with his scumread while his reasoning for not voting for Hopeless was "my scumread pushed him".


If you're town you're losing the game.


@GB: "if you're town"; so do you not believe him when he claimed to get medic saved?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 13:10 GMT
#1797
just got off of work, probably going to sleep in a few minutes but i promised to add depth to my reads so i will try to do that before i pass out:

VE - un-cc'd vigi, assuming he is town until he gets shot in the night by the real vigi or is cc'd. no real reason not to at this point imo.

rayn - when not engaged in a pissing match with hf, has been actively attempting to solve the game. much weaker day today than yesterday but not enough to be considered not town, he pulled off the gas on templar, and is coasting behind being medic saved (which btw i looked at the rules and am not even sure this is a mod confirmable thing??? don't forget last game).

lian - probably town cuz he playing so much different, trying to organize and be productive now. only downside to him is i think he is doing a bit much summarizing and a bit too little scum hunting.

fecalfeast - pretty much completely null on the guy except for this post, which makes him lean mafia:

On November 24 2014 07:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 13:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On November 22 2014 13:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm back at T-minus 11 and I'm very drunk so I'll just type it out:

Emergency Votecount

KillerSOS (4): The_Templar, Hopeless1der, GlowingBear, Alakaslam
hopeless1der (3): Holyflare, VisceraEyes, ritoky
sicklucker (3): Fecalfeast, Chezinu, Damdred
TheTemplar (2): liancourt, raynpelikoneet
liancourt (1): KillerSOS
Damdred (1): sicklucker

rayn and Damdred still need a pic by the end of Night 1

This is the lynching priority order for clarification


I think there was at least 1 mafia on SOS. HF was wrong and VE is probably actually vig.
I could see ritoky hanging on that counterwagon in case people from killerSoS start switching.
I have lian and rayn as town and they are doing many more things than I so there's a little sheeping here too.
Sicklucker's vote was a throw away vote, not saying that's very alignment indicative but last game when he was a possible lynch target he hopped on the other bandwagon just to not die and he was town. No, he probably wasn't going to get lynched over hopeless or SOS but it feels more like trying to stay away from the wagons to avoid suspicion to me.

Vote logic and sheeping list:
probably mafia:
templar
ritoky

possibly mafia
GB
slam
sicklucker

probably town
lian
rayn
ve

everyone else meh
[image loading]


he is wrong on me, but it isn't particularly that he is wrong on me that bothers me. it's the method. it is lazy and wifom as crap. "there must have been a mafia on hopeless, uncc'd vigi and cop were on it thus poe = ritoky". like i categorically disagree with the premise and i think it is a lazy reason that comes from the perspective of just trying to make crap up rather than find scum. his other scum read is a hardcore sheep. doesn't seem interested in finding scum.

damdred - i am leaning mafia on him because i am continuously underwhelmed by his posting. i don't particularly think his case one SL is strong, then from there the rest is just him being defensive, asking questions and not following through on them, and responding to other people directing stuff at him. he also has an extremely low post count, lower than mine, which is uncharacteristic of his town play imo. i think the prime example was how he pushed on me to see why i wanted to lynch GB so bad here:

On November 23 2014 07:42 Damdred wrote:
Why do you want to lynch only GB and by a mile?

I do take offense at that I brought legitamate things forward rit.

Also templar why you defend me in one post and berate me in another ;;


and then he has completely avoided any contact with the topic since. it just seems like he is trying to stay out of the line of fire and not piss people off wayyyy too hard for town damdred. plus it's almost through day 2 and he hasn't made a large multi-quote case..just ugh.

templar - gonna mostly sheep what others say here, not like i have anything particularly original at this point. the thing that puts it over the top for me is the constant fucking off when under pressure, and when he returns he just acts like nothing ever happened and doesn't go back to address concerns.

GB - i could re-type this case but i have had a very long day, it is in my filter about 5x already. if you don't understand why by now you're never going to understand why i think this guy is mafia. also i remember from a game where he was mafia that he likes to target talkative people with nks (meta from personal experience, feel free to disregard)

after doing this reads post, being tired from a long day of work, and doing some re-reading, i would say i am not 100% locked on GB anymore; i could be convinced to vote on one of my other scum reads.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 13:14 GMT
#1798
On November 24 2014 22:04 GlowingBear wrote:
OP says you receive a message when veteran is shot
OP says you receive a message when you are roleblocked

OP says nothing about being healed and shot.

Tbh, after I'm writing this, I'm more inclined to believe Rayn lied and we should lynch him.


yeah but i just pulled this from another game that is currently running:

On November 19 2014 05:36 Blazinghand wrote:

Town Doctor
Every night, you may choose a player other than yourself to protect. You will visit the player, and if the mafia attempt to kill a player you are protecting on the same night, the kill will fail. Both you and your target are notified if you prevent a kill. You win with the town.


so i mean, someone should prob run that by the mod to see which rules are going on here
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 13:20 GMT
#1799
On November 24 2014 22:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 21:49 ritoky wrote:
On November 24 2014 20:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 24 2014 16:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE vore for GB.
He voted with his scumread while his reasoning for not voting for Hopeless was "my scumread pushed him".


If you're town you're losing the game.


@GB: "if you're town"; so do you not believe him when he claimed to get medic saved?


I find his claim weird. Could be legit, that's why I'm reading him as town, but that's all.

This is the thing: medic can aim anyone, including mafia. So a mafia could be healed and come here and claim he was healed, getting town read. This makes his claim questionable.

What is even weirdly is that Rayn said he got shot AND healed. There is nothing in the OP that's says you receive a message when you are healed. There is nothing in the OP that says you're notified when you are shot but survives. Rayn claimed BOTH.

You know what could have happened? Luger fails, mafia Rayn is healed, he comes to the thread and say he was shot and healed to try to confirm him as town.

This is not WIFOM. This is very possible.


this isn't what i find strange about it at all btw. the fact that he didn't claim just to be saved, but he claimed to be shot AND saved made it a lot more credible to me because it felt like he had checked with the mod about the rules or something along those lines to verify the particulars of what it meant.

what i found strange about it was that it took all the way until me now for someone to even question it. especially after a lot of people were in the last game where me making an error regarding rules and mod confirmation had bad consequences for town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 13:26 GMT
#1802
On November 24 2014 22:04 GlowingBear wrote:
OP says you receive a message when veteran is shot
OP says you receive a message when you are roleblocked

OP says nothing about being healed and shot.

Tbh, after I'm writing this, I'm more inclined to believe Rayn lied and we should lynch him.


huh so it seems you did, guess i missed this somewhere. my bad. why the hell did no one follow up on this thought at all????????????

who was around when you posted this and just accepted it as fact? like why wouldn't people be skeptical especially those in the last game?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 13:28 GMT
#1803
people posting around the time of that post:

rayn, GB, templar, damdred, slam

@damdred, slam, templar - why did you not question rayn in regards to his save claim particularly when there's nothing in the rules about it and someone even pointed it out?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 13:36 GMT
#1805
On November 24 2014 22:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 22:26 ritoky wrote:
On November 24 2014 22:04 GlowingBear wrote:
OP says you receive a message when veteran is shot
OP says you receive a message when you are roleblocked

OP says nothing about being healed and shot.

Tbh, after I'm writing this, I'm more inclined to believe Rayn lied and we should lynch him.


huh so it seems you did, guess i missed this somewhere. my bad. why the hell did no one follow up on this thought at all????????????

who was around when you posted this and just accepted it as fact? like why wouldn't people be skeptical especially those in the last game?


This is actually a post I've just posted. The other one is way back on the start of day2.


yeah i quoted the wrong post on accident, meant this one:

On November 24 2014 00:02 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, very poor play to claim vigi and right after claiming being healed, narrowing roleblock targets.

I should also add that it's bizarre that Rayn says he was shot AND healed. There is nothing in the OP that says that the healed person receives a message, when the OP clearly states that the roleblocked person receives one.

What was the message Rayn have got? "You were shot but you were healed"? Lol


mb am tired.

also you whined at me to substantiate my reads, respond to them (don't have to respond to my read on you, we been down that path)
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 13:41 GMT
#1807
On November 24 2014 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hosts can you confirm whether or not a doctor save is informed in case they get shot.

regardless of if the host says yes or no, the fact that you posted this gives me a town boner
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 13:42 GMT
#1808
now excuse me, but i have to take my recently found town boner and fall asleep
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 13:56 GMT
#1812
On November 24 2014 22:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 22:41 ritoky wrote:
On November 24 2014 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hosts can you confirm whether or not a doctor save is informed in case they get shot.

regardless of if the host says yes or no, the fact that you posted this gives me a town boner

Why? If the hosts say "no" i am mafia so what the fuck are you talking about?!?!


you asked can you confirm this, if host says no, that would be the host saying "i can't confirm it", which is different from "not notified" am i right or am i tired? only reason i came back was i remembered i need to post a picture, so i offer this very realistic rendition of a tree:

[image loading]
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 22:13 GMT
#1867
On November 25 2014 05:56 sicklucker wrote:
Heres what I thinks happening. Mafia is trying to push a lynch on me. Heres the people who scum read me.

hard
gb
temp
damdred
slam

soft
ff
chez

People who dont are all pretty much the confirmed towns to me and have not suggested im scum. In my mind theres a 100% chance four of them are mafia. Do you really think im getting bussed by 3 mafia?


so do you not have a scum read on templar?

On November 25 2014 02:18 sicklucker wrote:
Alright if you switch to templar I will as well then. His "trap" was really bad as ive already posted and I dont think it was really a trap (already voting gb)



nope you do, cuz almost everyone in the thread is scum reading templar except GB; so why is it that you can't be bussed but you believe templar can be?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 24 2014 22:17 GMT
#1868
gb whines for my reads, i give a short version of my reads, he whines that they aren't substantiated, i substantiate them, he doesn't respond to them. not doin too much to move my scum read there bud
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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