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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 03:35 GMT
#1764
Also was just rereading something to see if i remembered correctly, besides SL and his paint Temp hasn't given reads today even though hes asked and dodged a lot today about them. Also his read on SL is just a trap so not sure

Why didn't you go at him again about those reads he was hesitant to share with you before GB?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 16:03 GMT
#1828
Why those three GB? Why isn't templar in the list?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 16:11 GMT
#1830
How do you take his response to what you asked of him right now towards myself and slam then?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 17:58 GMT
#1845
I like a templar or SL lynch today honesly not so much a GB lynch though.

SL (I wrote a case on him before even if ritoky says its not strong) it still stands.

Templar is an equally good lynch.

Starting on n1 templar does some weird things in light of his previous day play.

1) His reads are almost nonexistent by the large, we have a case on SL, a NULL read on Damdred a Null read on GB and a scum read on lian and Slam I believe.

He had a scum read on myself and it vanished after he said I looked somewhat towny in some of my posts even if it took me awhile to get their. He still calls me null at this point but throws a bit of dirt on me in this post

On November 24 2014 23:58 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 24 2014 09:17 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm out people.

Reevaluate your reads. I want to lynch between sick lucker, ritoky, or slam today. Give thoughts.

Also, I want damdred to comment on Templar and Templar to comment on damdred. I also want both commenting on slam. You guys are refusing to do this awesome.


Templar, please comment on damdred. How do you read him?

Damdred, please comment on Templar. How do you read him?

Templar and Damdred, please comment on Slam. What do you think of him? How do you read him

If you guys keep ignoring these questions I'll lynch both.

Damdred is a null read, Alakaslam is a town --> null --> slight scum read as I read through his filter.

Damdred's responses to my pressure are towny, although they take a while to get anywhere.
My first problem with him now is his response here.

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On November 24 2014 11:49 Damdred wrote:
On November 24 2014 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 24 2014 09:17 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm out people.

Reevaluate your reads. I want to lynch between sick lucker, ritoky, or slam today. Give thoughts.

Also, I want damdred to comment on Templar and Templar to comment on damdred. I also want both commenting on slam. You guys are refusing to do this awesome.


Templar, please comment on damdred. How do you read him?

Damdred, please comment on Templar. How do you read him?

Templar and Damdred, please comment on Slam. What do you think of him? How do you read him

If you guys keep ignoring these questions I'll lynch both.


Sorry just got home from work crazy day.

I'll start off with Slam. I really don't know how to read slam, Oats or VE told me you can tell something about slams alignment how freely he posts and if he makes posts that actually make sense. If thats actually correct then he looks townish even if he was wrong on the kos.

Templars is a really hard alignment for me, i had a town read going into the night with him with how he was thinking. But his night activity with hitting me over the head for thinking he was towny really set me back on him and left a bad taste in my mouth.

He read me as pinkish at one point during the night (mafia lean) I take it, but now has me null by his last drawing, his case for today was some form of trap for people to stumble into which doesn't make much sense to me. He also said last night that if my play did not improve dramatically he would lynch me but besides a few posts in response to me hasn't really pushed me or tried to get me lynched despite my activity being low again today in fact he only mentioned my scum read SL and I think hes willing to vote with me. All of its really weird play when you consider last night and today and fell off activity wise so i'm moving him into my scum lean category


So first of all, he doesn't actually answer your question about slam. He also tried to make me look worse than I should look for pressuring him over the night. Let me put something very clearly right now: I was not reading him as a slight pink solely because he was saying I was town, but because he was trying to look like he was contributing without providing any substance.

He ridiculed my pressure of him in its aftermath which is extremely confusing, acting as if I should have never tried. So, I read him null at the time as these two conflict quite a bit.
Also,
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 12:35 Damdred wrote:
Also was just rereading something to see if i remembered correctly, besides SL and his paint Temp hasn't given reads today even though hes asked and dodged a lot today about them. Also his read on SL is just a trap so not sure

Why didn't you go at him again about those reads he was hesitant to share with you before GB?

I already said this was an actual meta-read, and that it didn't exist for the sole purpose of being a trap. I said this multiple times so I don't know why he's mentioning anything else.

Alakaslam:

I don't really know him at all and he's extremely confusing.

That said, his posts towards the end of day one gave me a town vibe as he was active, asking questions to gather current data instead of merely reading the thread to catch up (although it seems he did both). The exception:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 08:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Let's kill Liancourt.

Because why not. Someone defense him for to FITE ME because I dont' think he will even defend himself.

Followed by a "You don't want to lynch him? Then who do you want to lynch?" post towards me, followed by switching to lead the lynch on the other lurker. If he was going to lynch a lurker, why did he bother to do anything besides figure out why he should unvote me?

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On November 22 2014 11:21 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:15 ritoky wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Ritoky have you ever been in a game with Chezinu Izhunizech?

I can't remember if I spelled that right, sorry C

Please answer promptly ritoky.


nope, no idea who that is

...

Chezinu...

Anyway so Chezinu does as he does. He plays according to the House of Brown. He is the founder, I visit on occasion.

He sees VERY clearly with the eyes of CHUPAZI, my own vision is about 20:20 left eye, 20:32 right eye. However Chezinu sees with a clarity unsurpassed at 20:10 both eyes.

As scum he is to be feared. He will snipe every blue and guide the RB, allowing the blues to live just long enough that they do not realize they are compromised.

As town he is indecipherable to the scum, suddenly he knows your alignment and you do not know how, but he simply KNOWS. I fear him more when I roll scum than just about anyone on the site.

He is not to be lost Day1.

Also, I'm curious on this post. I have seen no evidence of what Chezinu has been said to be capable of in this thread. All he is doing is posting images of various geometric shapes, save one large list of reads. So unless he "knows" the mafia the above post is just filler.

His day 2 activity is similarly confusing to me. His activity pre-page o' spam mainly consists of talking about the night actions and not actually doing anything about the reads flying around, as he did in day 1.

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On November 24 2014 15:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Deli rean is actually pretty slow.

You know I find that often, when vets early in the game make a read but it gets ignored and is followed by a mislynch, the read was actually correct.

Having been humbled, and finding all The vets are most likely town, I will vote Templar with my phone paint

In case sent doesn't recognize it

Nice explanation of voting me... wait

Most of his posts that aren't talking about the night actions are "I will consider this" followed by not really doing anything about it, filler, asking for help figuring people out, or stuff I actually can't read like this

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On November 24 2014 15:30 Alakaslam wrote:
Oh! True I haven't given reads...

So I would say Sicklucker and Lian aren't cool, but Lian wants to lynch temp, similar to vets, doubt he would bus after attention fell away. So can't both be scum!

Glowing bro b mah brodda, seems he wouldn't like that; guess he just that HAWT gal in high school dat iz lieks by erry body but h8s ppl, including me

Den vets praktikal konfirm SSON; town actually in a very good place.

I give Chezinu much earlier you should know how I see him

Who is left?

Ah damdred I dunno I DINNAE see him

The thing about the Chezinu read in this post is that we don't know how Alakaslam sees him. We just know that he respects him as a player, nothing he has said about Chezinu is actually alignment-indicative.

I don't know, he seems like he is dodging doing anything helpful that makes sense. His list of reads looks rushed (and I can barely read it) and he hasn't done anything original since day 1 at all except filler. I feel like this heavily depends on his meta but I've already been driven to madness by looking through his filter here.

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On November 24 2014 23:41 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 24 2014 22:41 ritoky wrote:
On November 24 2014 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hosts can you confirm whether or not a doctor save is informed in case they get shot.

regardless of if the host says yes or no, the fact that you posted this gives me a town boner

+1 rayn

Will you still have this opinion if Rayn is basically confirmed as mafia by the host? (Although I seriously doubt that will happen as mafia Rayn probably asked by PM, no?)


What he did over night was not pressure it was start a pissing match over different methods and he spent an hour berating me for town reading him without quotes basically and went on to say my sl case was good. He says I do not answer GB about how i read slam when I literally answered "Hey i don't know how to read slam but this is how others told me to read him"

Either way his sudden shift from scum reading me to town reading me doesn't make a lot of sense and shows little progression in the way hes went about it.

His scum read on lian is pretty much unexplained besides OMGUS I believe, he doesn't give much in the way of thoughts as to why lian is scum besides the initial ok this guy is starting to play horribly at the start of the game.

I think he has a mafia read on Slam currently but i'm not sure as his post lacks conclussions and his push on d2 seems to amount to nothing, slam comes down to his filter drives him mad which isn't a read in itself.

2) During his talk with GB and myself in d2 he said a few times he was hesitant to discuss his reads

On November 23 2014 14:27 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2014 13:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, in case I die, take a look at Templar too.
I feel he is coming from a town perspective but he has some weird traits:

1) he is too passive, as pointed out by other players, specially rayn
2) I've just played a game of 1 hours with him where I was mafia and he read me as town. It bothers me that he isn't hesitating into reading me as town now (he seems to believe I'm town since my opening)
3) he (and VE) were incisive when I "breadcrumbed" being a vigi (I said I was sure liancourt was going to die tonight on purpose, to look like I was breadcrumbing being a vigi, and this way I take the shot, as I'm self aware that I'm not one of the most insightful players right now and I'm may not be because I'm having a busy month). When they saw it, they started to ask questions, which felt they were looking for blues, instead of just shutting up.

That's it. Kthxbai

1) Meta, not much else to say
2) I am hesitant... I just haven't expressed it as much as I've been thinking it. I don't want to risk discussing all of my reads with you at this point because of that.
3) Soft claims as obvious as that one are bait for me. I will always ask questions when you make a statement like that, also meta.


He says it a couple of other times and GB and myself asked him for these reads so the thread could discuss them. But he dodged and never came back to give these reads that he was hesitant to show.

3) Lack of follow through with things he has said before in the thread, he had a scum read on me as previously mentioned going into d2 and has said before that if my play had not picked up d2 he would push for my lynch. Instead of this promised push (admittedly i've been more inactive over the weekend time period) he decides to null read me and barely mention me at all.

His push today on SL is my own scum read and is a meta case in which earlier he said he hated meta cases and then goes onto say that its partially a trap to see if people aren't reading the thread. He says he himself is not reading the thread though, he has unexplained scum reads and his reads on people switch from one extreme to the other without thought being seen in the thread just vague ideas.

This guy is scum vote him with me
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 18:01 GMT
#1846
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 18:07 GMT
#1848
What do you think of my case GB?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 22:47 GMT
#1871
Vote count when hosts can please.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 23:02 GMT
#1874
Because hes scum ritoky, him and templar are possibly both scum hes willing to lynch templar in one post but now hes backing off and trying to direct elsewhere
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 23:21 GMT
#1877
I might of misunderstood your list
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 23:47 GMT
#1879
On November 25 2014 08:43 ritoky wrote:
why are both of you placing so much more effort into that other game and not this one? your filter in the other game is already 1/4 of yours in this game damdred, and dat game only been up for like 30 minutes.


I've put effort into this game i've made two cases and voting for what I think is scum though i'd be happy to lynch SL as well.

And its kinda hard for me to talk by myself honestly makes me feel uncomfortable to just post with no one to talk with i guess
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 23:48 GMT
#1880
I don't think you've even mentioned my case on emplar or commented on it. So talk to me about that or where you want to go today rit
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 24 2014 23:57 GMT
#1882
Most of the things pointed out on templar were pointed out by me before and I condensed them all into a case, so I disagree heavily that 1) a case has to be completely original as different peoples ideas and concetps should be used to build cases with if they have good points. 2) That I am not being original orthought provoking since I pointed out a lot of stuff about him earlier.

I've been here with you and GB somewhat fighting, I don't like a GB lynch I thought i said it before. So basically you don't mind lynching half of the players left?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 25 2014 00:03 GMT
#1887
On November 25 2014 08:57 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 08:47 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:43 ritoky wrote:
why are both of you placing so much more effort into that other game and not this one? your filter in the other game is already 1/4 of yours in this game damdred, and dat game only been up for like 30 minutes.


I've put effort into this game i've made two cases and voting for what I think is scum though i'd be happy to lynch SL as well.

And its kinda hard for me to talk by myself honestly makes me feel uncomfortable to just post with no one to talk with i guess


one of your scum reads, in SL, is here and actively posting; why aren't you pushing that read to get more information out of him? like it can only give you more information to further your read or make you see him in a different light....yet you're basically not even interacting with him in this thread...go over to the other thread and voila. do you really want to lynch SL?


I would be really happy to lynch SL today becuase I think that my case on him is still pretty solid and he has been a bit wishy washy even today with his "Oh I would switch to lynch this person" hes not briningmuch thought to the thread and just seems to go with the flow overall.

And I thought we have been down this road before ritoky with reading me as one alignment or another based on two different games going on at the same time?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 25 2014 00:06 GMT
#1888
On November 25 2014 09:01 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 08:57 Damdred wrote:
Most of the things pointed out on templar were pointed out by me before and I condensed them all into a case, so I disagree heavily that 1) a case has to be completely original as different peoples ideas and concetps should be used to build cases with if they have good points. 2) That I am not being original orthought provoking since I pointed out a lot of stuff about him earlier.

I've been here with you and GB somewhat fighting, I don't like a GB lynch I thought i said it before. So basically you don't mind lynching half of the players left?


i don't have many towns. and i have 4 scum reads, you read my reads post cuz you commented about it earlier.


I believe I did read your reads post, i hate being scum read on activity but some of the things you mentioned about me were pretty good observations I must admit. I'm just no sure about the GB overall it still looks like town GB with all the bluster and hard to define reads
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 25 2014 00:11 GMT
#1892
On November 25 2014 09:07 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 09:03 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:57 ritoky wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:47 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:43 ritoky wrote:
why are both of you placing so much more effort into that other game and not this one? your filter in the other game is already 1/4 of yours in this game damdred, and dat game only been up for like 30 minutes.


I've put effort into this game i've made two cases and voting for what I think is scum though i'd be happy to lynch SL as well.

And its kinda hard for me to talk by myself honestly makes me feel uncomfortable to just post with no one to talk with i guess


one of your scum reads, in SL, is here and actively posting; why aren't you pushing that read to get more information out of him? like it can only give you more information to further your read or make you see him in a different light....yet you're basically not even interacting with him in this thread...go over to the other thread and voila. do you really want to lynch SL?


I would be really happy to lynch SL today becuase I think that my case on him is still pretty solid and he has been a bit wishy washy even today with his "Oh I would switch to lynch this person" hes not briningmuch thought to the thread and just seems to go with the flow overall.

And I thought we have been down this road before ritoky with reading me as one alignment or another based on two different games going on at the same time?


yes and last time you were different alignments in them and the one you put more effort into was the one you were mafia in. but then again i was also mafia trying to push a ML on you, so don't blame me for having a bs reason in that game.

my issue with you this game is i don't see you REALLY following through. like you go into the tunnel a bit when you have a scum read like myself, and i don't see that happening in the slightest. further, it feels to me like you're really trying to stay out of the fray and not get involved in the really contentious topics. or at least not at the times when they are really contentious.


Haha I don't blame you at all that game, i'm just glad i cop checked you that game for whatever reason.

Your first point is valid I know that I have a problem with tunneling and have somehwat been trying to correct that, you played hearthstone with me and I tried my best not to tunnel in that game. I think HF was giving me crap about pushing my SL read when I shoudl be sheeping him on hopeless as well.

The last point well I find hat to be a bit nitpicky though, if i'm here I try to talk through everything if i'm not its hard to be involved and yea.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 25 2014 00:12 GMT
#1893
On November 25 2014 09:11 sicklucker wrote:
Of course ritoky I also agree we should lynch gb over templar. Ill help you convince people but I feel they all want templar gone first


"Oh hey i'm happy as long as anyone dies thats not my partner"
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 25 2014 00:18 GMT
#1895
On November 25 2014 09:13 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred who would you lynch outside of the obvious plays of me and temp


I can only hunt one scum at a time obviously, but chez is almost a policy lynch type deal going for him.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 25 2014 04:33 GMT
#2003
whats the ote coun just got in
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 25 2014 14:46 GMT
#2027
Just got up.

Rayn doesn't even comment on what I've done just said can't remember bah
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 25 2014 20:07 GMT
#2048
we should lynch SL tommorow i think its the best thing to do
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