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On November 20 2014 19:39 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 19:13 ritoky wrote:On November 20 2014 19:10 liancourt wrote:
i am hard defending hopeless who looks scummy as fuck
does this make me mafia?
i thought there was no reason to vote hopeless, now he looks scummy as fuck? i already want to lynch you cuz you claimed mafia, you're making me think that desire isn't unfounded. and if you think i can't find mafia day 1 thru analysis, you have a very short memory. and maybe even mammary. put ur money where u mouth is i quivering in my boots
All you are doing is making the thread a worse place by antagonising people intentionally. Please stop or just claim mafia.
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On November 20 2014 18:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 18:29 Holyflare wrote:On November 20 2014 18:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wwhy the fuck would being absolute be scummy?
i must be mafia in every game then.... are you dense or some shit? read the thread No u. I know exactly what ve has said and there is nothing scummy in it. So either you are twisting the facts which makes you mafia, or maybe you should read the thread... Or maybe you just went insane. Idk yet. But we should still kill templar. I'll explain when i get off work and then you can all sheep me and i can be confirmed town.
On November 20 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town. Slam is town.
We can kill Templar because of that mafia post.
ritoky i am the king of vague statements.
If I am saying that VE's logic doesn't actually make someone mafia etc etc and he's saying it does and I'm mafia for not seeing that and here you are defending ve's logic saying there's nothing scummy with it (thereby nothing wrong with it at all) how come you aren't scum reading hopeless at all!?
either you:
1) Agree with ve and then you would be scum reading hopeless (you already said you don't think what ve did was scummy)
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2) you disagree with ve saying that hopeless is scummy and therefore agree with ME
if the answer is number 2 then your post means nothing and is actually discrediting me for no reason because you aren't reading the thread, if your answer is number 1 then there's something wrong with your mindset because you don't scum read hopeless in your read post and you are probably mafia
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also that hopeless return into doing nothing..... yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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well instead (seeing as you are under pressure of being scummy) you should perhaps be answering the questions you are posing to other people instead or at least talking about anything that's happened in the entire game seeing as you've only defended yourself and then gone to bed and returned to ask a few questions
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On November 21 2014 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 01:21 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 21 2014 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 01:15 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 21 2014 01:07 Holyflare wrote:
well instead (seeing as you are under pressure of being scummy) you should perhaps be answering the questions you are posing to other people instead or at least talking about anything that's happened in the entire game seeing as you've only defended yourself and then gone to bed and returned to ask a few questions I dont feel like monologuing. Rayn's read on templar looks bad but doesnt make rayn scum. VE looks bad in general. damdred is afk. Liancourt is almost trying to get lynched. You look town so far. rito is slightly townie. templar townie, slam townie. had to post this... lol you don't even know why i think he is mafia. which in and of itself bothers me. I have 1 post to go on for "why rayn thinks templar is mafia". I think that post was townie, so I disagree with you and think you look bad. It can wait, have your conversation with holyflare. So you are claiming scum? Why is my case bad? You called it bad now tell me why is it bad.
.... I have no idea how you can even reach conclusions sometimes I think you just add the words "you are claiming scum" and "you are town" to your posts sometimes just to mess with people
where is your case??
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On November 21 2014 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 00:19 Holyflare wrote:On November 20 2014 18:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 20 2014 18:29 Holyflare wrote:On November 20 2014 18:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wwhy the fuck would being absolute be scummy?
i must be mafia in every game then.... are you dense or some shit? read the thread No u. I know exactly what ve has said and there is nothing scummy in it. So either you are twisting the facts which makes you mafia, or maybe you should read the thread... Or maybe you just went insane. Idk yet. But we should still kill templar. I'll explain when i get off work and then you can all sheep me and i can be confirmed town. On November 20 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town. Slam is town.
We can kill Templar because of that mafia post.
ritoky i am the king of vague statements. If I am saying that VE's logic doesn't actually make someone mafia etc etc and he's saying it does and I'm mafia for not seeing that and here you are defending ve's logic saying there's nothing scummy with it (thereby nothing wrong with it at all) how come you aren't scum reading hopeless at all!? either you: 1) Agree with ve and then you would be scum reading hopeless (you already said you don't think what ve did was scummy) or 2) you disagree with ve saying that hopeless is scummy and therefore agree with ME if the answer is number 2 then your post means nothing and is actually discrediting me for no reason because you aren't reading the thread, if your answer is number 1 then there's something wrong with your mindset because you don't scum read hopeless in your read post and you are probably mafia That is not the point Holyflare. My point is you called out VE's logic before you gave Hopeless a chance to defend himself (or overreact/scumtell whatever if he is mafia) against VE. At the time you at least must assume there is a chance that VE is town and Hopeless is mafia. Unless you had a really strong townread on Hopeless (which you didn't) you do not shut down cases on him, regardless of how good/bad the case is. It is just retarded (just like answering to questions asked from other people -- you know what i am talking about) and i don't really get why did you do that in the first place because i KNOW you think what i just said is a fact. That's why i called you weird. Now you seem to be having a scumread on Hopeless. Cool. Now why the hell are you fixated in VE??? You called his actions scummy but you do not think it makes him mafia. Fuck, let it go then if it does not make him mafia. What's the point???? You know VE, he "doesn't negotiate with terrorists" and i can't understand what are you possibly trying to achieve treating like you do -- from town perspective. It just doesn't make sense because he'll shut down towards you and you will at each other and if you are both town then fuck this game because it's gonna be ruined. That's my 2c on you, and if possible i'd like you to explain your actions i was talking about. Give me the town motivation because i do not see it. Also yes, i think Hopeless is quite possibly scum for his latest posts. When he got back to the thread i got the same impression you posted. I don't/didn't think VE had a good case. In fact i kinda liked how Hopeless answered the case. Oh yeah that's the third thing. Why was Hopeless' response to the case bad (that's why you think he is scum, right)?
This is most assuredly NOT what happened and means you have read nothing of the interaction. VE's scum read on me is that i said his logic was bad WHILE saying hopeless' reaction was scummy. I can call out more than one person even if they are calling out each other because a) bussing is a major thing that's happening each game and b) my read on hopeless was weak and ve's push looked scummy
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On November 21 2014 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 01:54 Holyflare wrote:On November 21 2014 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 00:19 Holyflare wrote:On November 20 2014 18:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 20 2014 18:29 Holyflare wrote:On November 20 2014 18:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wwhy the fuck would being absolute be scummy?
i must be mafia in every game then.... are you dense or some shit? read the thread No u. I know exactly what ve has said and there is nothing scummy in it. So either you are twisting the facts which makes you mafia, or maybe you should read the thread... Or maybe you just went insane. Idk yet. But we should still kill templar. I'll explain when i get off work and then you can all sheep me and i can be confirmed town. On November 20 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town. Slam is town.
We can kill Templar because of that mafia post.
ritoky i am the king of vague statements. If I am saying that VE's logic doesn't actually make someone mafia etc etc and he's saying it does and I'm mafia for not seeing that and here you are defending ve's logic saying there's nothing scummy with it (thereby nothing wrong with it at all) how come you aren't scum reading hopeless at all!? either you: 1) Agree with ve and then you would be scum reading hopeless (you already said you don't think what ve did was scummy) or 2) you disagree with ve saying that hopeless is scummy and therefore agree with ME if the answer is number 2 then your post means nothing and is actually discrediting me for no reason because you aren't reading the thread, if your answer is number 1 then there's something wrong with your mindset because you don't scum read hopeless in your read post and you are probably mafia That is not the point Holyflare. My point is you called out VE's logic before you gave Hopeless a chance to defend himself (or overreact/scumtell whatever if he is mafia) against VE. At the time you at least must assume there is a chance that VE is town and Hopeless is mafia. Unless you had a really strong townread on Hopeless (which you didn't) you do not shut down cases on him, regardless of how good/bad the case is. It is just retarded (just like answering to questions asked from other people -- you know what i am talking about) and i don't really get why did you do that in the first place because i KNOW you think what i just said is a fact. That's why i called you weird. Now you seem to be having a scumread on Hopeless. Cool. Now why the hell are you fixated in VE??? You called his actions scummy but you do not think it makes him mafia. Fuck, let it go then if it does not make him mafia. What's the point???? You know VE, he "doesn't negotiate with terrorists" and i can't understand what are you possibly trying to achieve treating like you do -- from town perspective. It just doesn't make sense because he'll shut down towards you and you will at each other and if you are both town then fuck this game because it's gonna be ruined. That's my 2c on you, and if possible i'd like you to explain your actions i was talking about. Give me the town motivation because i do not see it. Also yes, i think Hopeless is quite possibly scum for his latest posts. When he got back to the thread i got the same impression you posted. I don't/didn't think VE had a good case. In fact i kinda liked how Hopeless answered the case. Oh yeah that's the third thing. Why was Hopeless' response to the case bad (that's why you think he is scum, right)? This is most assuredly NOT what happened and means you have read nothing of the interaction. VE's scum read on me is that i said his logic was bad WHILE saying hopeless' reaction was scummy. I can call out more than one person even if they are calling out each other because a) bussing is a major thing that's happening each game and b) my read on hopeless was weak and ve's push looked scummy I am not sure you understand what i was talking about in the part you colored red. I was talking about the fact that VE made a case on Hopeless. You called the case bad before Hopeless answered it. right?
Which is why I'm saying it's wrong because ve made a case, hopeless responded and then I said his case was bad but hopeless' reaction was scummy
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On November 21 2014 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:20 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 21 2014 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you literally gave Hopeless an out against VE's argument (the QT thing) without any reason. The reason was VE's argument was bad. Shitty example: It'd be like me saying "GB says the sky is green". Do you need to wait for GB to come in and tell you I lied? p.s. wheres GB It doesn't matter. VE accused you of being mafia and Holyflare didn't let you answer. Holyflare speaks loudly for "do not answer questions directed to other people" which is basically the same thing this is. I don't give a fuck how bad VE's argument was or how easy it would be for you to answer him as town/mafia. I give a fuck about the fact that Holyflare made it impossible for you to fuck up in case you are scum. That's why it's not townie.
This isn't how it happened
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On November 21 2014 02:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:41 Holyflare wrote:On November 21 2014 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:20 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 21 2014 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you literally gave Hopeless an out against VE's argument (the QT thing) without any reason. The reason was VE's argument was bad. Shitty example: It'd be like me saying "GB says the sky is green". Do you need to wait for GB to come in and tell you I lied? p.s. wheres GB It doesn't matter. VE accused you of being mafia and Holyflare didn't let you answer. Holyflare speaks loudly for "do not answer questions directed to other people" which is basically the same thing this is. I don't give a fuck how bad VE's argument was or how easy it would be for you to answer him as town/mafia. I give a fuck about the fact that Holyflare made it impossible for you to fuck up in case you are scum. That's why it's not townie. This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened VE posted the QT thingy. Your post is the following!It is how it happened.
The qt thing was scummy because it was wrong so hopeless' response is irrelevant and was bolstering on top of ve's already wrong exaggerated accusations. I don't care about a players response when someone is pushing a scummy agenda to get that response.
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On November 21 2014 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 16:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Post 100 in this quicktopic proves that Hopeless CAN NOT think I'm mafia here for thinking he's mafia because he's seen me play this game THIS WAY RECENTLY. It's true that the circumstances are a little different, I had replaced into that game and there was a lot of stuff to draw from in the thread - the salient point though is that I found a mafia for what may SEEM to be shaky reasoning IMMEDIATELY and pushed on it hard against one of the louder voices in the thread. IMMEDIATELY. He knows this is how I play as town, and now he would have you believe that he thinks I'm mafia. Don't believe his lies. YOUR POST IS THE NEXT ONE IN THE THREAD YOU CAN'T SAY THIS IS NOT HOW IT HAPPENED!!!
You made it seem like you were referring to ve's original case which hopeless responded to. That's because you ordered your post badly and never referred to the qt thing at all.
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On November 21 2014 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 02:52 Holyflare wrote:On November 21 2014 02:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:41 Holyflare wrote:On November 21 2014 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 21 2014 02:20 Hopeless1der wrote:On November 21 2014 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like you literally gave Hopeless an out against VE's argument (the QT thing) without any reason. The reason was VE's argument was bad. Shitty example: It'd be like me saying "GB says the sky is green". Do you need to wait for GB to come in and tell you I lied? p.s. wheres GB It doesn't matter. VE accused you of being mafia and Holyflare didn't let you answer. Holyflare speaks loudly for "do not answer questions directed to other people" which is basically the same thing this is. I don't give a fuck how bad VE's argument was or how easy it would be for you to answer him as town/mafia. I give a fuck about the fact that Holyflare made it impossible for you to fuck up in case you are scum. That's why it's not townie. This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened This isn't how it happened VE posted the QT thingy. Your post is the following!It is how it happened. The qt thing was scummy because it was wrong so hopeless' response is irrelevant and was bolstering on top of ve's already wrong exaggerated accusations. I don't care about a players response when someone is pushing a scummy agenda to get that response. But you don't think VE is scum?
Not particularly anymore because he stuck to his terrible case and plan and still believed it to be working and true which IS pretty typical ve. The rest of the argument was just me trying to clear the air in the off chance ve is a retarded vigi who shoots me.
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No you didn't at all. The post i quoted only said ve called hopeless scum and i didn't let hopelesa respond. Nothing about qt
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Urgh this is so irrelevant the qt thing was shit and scummy
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On November 21 2014 03:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
Its like rayn and HF swapped places from FFL2
So you're saying you think I'm mafia now...?
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On November 21 2014 01:15 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2014 01:07 Holyflare wrote:
well instead (seeing as you are under pressure of being scummy) you should perhaps be answering the questions you are posing to other people instead or at least talking about anything that's happened in the entire game seeing as you've only defended yourself and then gone to bed and returned to ask a few questions I dont feel like monologuing. Rayn's read on templar looks bad but doesnt make rayn scum. VE looks bad in general. damdred is afk. Liancourt is almost trying to get lynched. You look town so far. rito is slightly townie. templar townie, slam townie.
So what's changed?
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I looked back at what i quoted and it didn't have the qt thing in so i called it out, didn't read any nested ones, watching tv so not particularly focused
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And hopeless' need to justify himself by dissecting everything ve said was scummy because it was an overreaction to something that was bad and not something that is exclusively scummy as I've pointed out all game
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On November 21 2014 03:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
fuck.
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