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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:28 GMT
#248
so liancourt you haven't read anything and want a summary but you are voting me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:29 GMT
#251
On November 20 2014 18:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wwhy the fuck would being absolute be scummy?
i must be mafia in every game then....


are you dense or some shit? read the thread
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:33 GMT
#256
IT IS scummy to be absolute on things you SHOULDN'T be absolute on! "oh hf is DEFINITELY mafia" is ONLY pushing a mafia agenda because you have absolutely 0 reasons for it and i'm town so it's not some crazy next level tactic you are doing because it's ONLY shitting up the thread with a useless vote with no reasoning or pressure. There is literally 0 things to get out of your "tactic" on me. YOU should know that pressuring me is absolutely redundant because I know how to play so the only thing you will gain out of it is me thinking you are scummy. So here we are.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:37 GMT
#265
On November 20 2014 18:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 18:27 Holyflare wrote:
I don't actually know WHY you're calling me mafia VE all I know is that I disagreed with points you raised and called what you were doing - being absolute- scummy which you acknowledge is what you are doing.

elaborate before you do silly crap please

My point is that you know it's not scummy for me to do it, but you're telling town that it is. You're misleading town, in a destructive way.


It's still scummy. There's nothing that you can tell me that will change my mind. I look at what you are doing and think oh hey that's terrible play and isn't doing anything but making the thread worse (in regards to me) and therefore think it is scummy. Your stuff on hopeless may be some tactic of appearing more sure than you are for pressure fine but it's misplaced in things that aren't scummy and you were actively trying to PILE things onto him which don't make any sense whatsoever (the qt thing etc) so I called you out on it.

So really, all you're saying is that you lied about how sure of a read you are (in a towny way to you but a scummy way to the thread because it was a lie) and got called out on your inconsistency so I'm mafia. OK.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:38 GMT
#266
On November 20 2014 18:36 The_Templar wrote:
HF, do you think I am scummy?


why does it matter?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:39 GMT
#268
lian do something productive please
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:42 GMT
#273
I don't know what you're saying because I always listen to what you say. Play the game please.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:43 GMT
#274
There's a real possibility (and it's quite high) that ritoky is mafia by the way.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:46 GMT
#277
You're so very passive and meagerly pointing out "things", you also say rayn is your town read right now but the only thing you've even commented on in regards to rayn is:

On November 20 2014 16:22 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 16:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare is weird.


oh how vague of you.

[image loading]


You're also calling out VE for fabricating things but rayn is defending VE's mindset so that read is not congruent with what you've been saying. You also seem extremely flippant in regards to the VE/hopeless interaction earlier.

You're just not ritokyish.



Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:51 GMT
#281
I also drew an alian isolation picture because I was bored

[image loading]

also

[image loading]
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:51 GMT
#283
god i can't even spell alien
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:53 GMT
#287
I don't think i'm muted in the slightest rofl
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:56 GMT
#291
I don't understand how you can call someone mafia for defending someone WHEN YOU ADMIT YOU EXAGGERATED EVERYTHING TO PRESSURE HIM. looooooooooool
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:57 GMT
#292
like THAT read is bad

really really really bad
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 09:58 GMT
#293
On November 20 2014 18:55 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 18:53 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think i'm muted in the slightest rofl


you've only insulted 1 person so far, that's muted for you.


the day is young
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 10:05 GMT
#303
On November 20 2014 19:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 18:56 Holyflare wrote:
I don't understand how you can call someone mafia for defending someone WHEN YOU ADMIT YOU EXAGGERATED EVERYTHING TO PRESSURE HIM. looooooooooool

I didn't exaggerate my read Holyflare, I still think he's mafia for it. I was just exaggerating how certain I am of it - I'm NOT certain of it, it's just my read.

And further, I'm not saying you're mafia FOR defending Hopeless. My reasoning is clear and explicit. I'm saying your mafia for defending Hopeless FOR BAD REASON (saying that something that IS objectively scummy is NOT objectively scummy) AT A WEIRD TIME (right after you acquired a scumread of him yourself, in response to MY pressure of him) WHILE SCUMREADING HIM!

Holyflare Jesus Christ, I never have to spell shit out for you multiple times like this. Maybe you are town. :/


Feigning contribution is scummy yes, but nowhere did he do that at the time you had said he had done that. The start of the game does not count towards feigning contribution when all he's done is comment on a snowflake in the first hour of the game. That doesn't make anyone mafia ever and was a bs EXAGGERATED read that I do not and will not ever agree on. People have done the exact same thing as town in many many many many many more games so it's not OBJECTIVELY scummy at all, it's entirely subjective because it's what you think which goes against the actual facts.

There's quite a difference between scum reading someone for what you said and scum reading him for something entirely different. He might not end up being scum and then I can look back and remember that your pressure was far more exacerbated than it should have been in that situation. Telling you that your initial logic for scum reading him was bad has nothing to do with him looking scummy for his reaction. It's an observation.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 10:08 GMT
#305
On November 20 2014 19:07 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:03 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:59 liancourt wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:51 The_Templar wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:50 liancourt wrote:
On November 20 2014 14:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
[image loading]


really wtf is with the votes

Are you saying there's no reason to vote hopeless or that their votes are bad?


stop trying to look active. what are u going to achieve by asking me these questions?

There is no reason to vote hope

the votes are bad

same thing

LOL

What was the point of your question mafia?

i change my vote

templar is mafai


why is there no reason to vote hopeless? do you not like my or VE's read on him?


LOL

what is there to read stop trying to over analyze everything

LOL

analyze me

LOL


You know it's possible to catch mafia day 1 because of analysing, you've been in several games where mafia has been lynched day 1 because of actual analysis. So why are you telling people to stop analysing when it only helps to find mafia? You are being very very strange.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 10:09 GMT
#308
my vote isn't even on hopeless?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 10:14 GMT
#311
On November 20 2014 18:51 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 18:46 Holyflare wrote:
You're so very passive and meagerly pointing out "things", you also say rayn is your town read right now but the only thing you've even commented on in regards to rayn is:

On November 20 2014 16:22 ritoky wrote:
On November 20 2014 16:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare is weird.


oh how vague of you.

[image loading]


You're also calling out VE for fabricating things but rayn is defending VE's mindset so that read is not congruent with what you've been saying. You also seem extremely flippant in regards to the VE/hopeless interaction earlier.

You're just not ritokyish.





I am meish because I am me.

rayn said you're weird. it's true, you're weird. why? cuz you're not angry at all. a couple posts ago you seemed slightly agitated. but the super town HF calls people bad and idiots and tells everyone to sheep him and claims god tier. you're muted, so you're weird.

but that said, rayn's subsequent post responding to my criticism and detailing who is town is the stuff i can put in my coffee in the morning.

as for me being me, i find like find odd and disjointed interactions day 1 and finding scum that way, you saw me behind the scenes last game. hence why i don't like hopeless. that read should not surprise you in the slightest.


rayn said I was weird after 1 post so this doesn't make sense in the slightest

On November 20 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town. Slam is town.
We can kill Templar because of that mafia post.

ritoky i am the king of vague statements.


this was also his only response to your criticism and details absolutely nothing so it's weird that the person who has said almost nothing whatsoever is your town read, especially when you pick and choose some of his posts to fit into a later timeline
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 20 2014 10:27 GMT
#317
On November 20 2014 19:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 19:05 Holyflare wrote:
On November 20 2014 19:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 20 2014 18:56 Holyflare wrote:
I don't understand how you can call someone mafia for defending someone WHEN YOU ADMIT YOU EXAGGERATED EVERYTHING TO PRESSURE HIM. looooooooooool

I didn't exaggerate my read Holyflare, I still think he's mafia for it. I was just exaggerating how certain I am of it - I'm NOT certain of it, it's just my read.

And further, I'm not saying you're mafia FOR defending Hopeless. My reasoning is clear and explicit. I'm saying your mafia for defending Hopeless FOR BAD REASON (saying that something that IS objectively scummy is NOT objectively scummy) AT A WEIRD TIME (right after you acquired a scumread of him yourself, in response to MY pressure of him) WHILE SCUMREADING HIM!

Holyflare Jesus Christ, I never have to spell shit out for you multiple times like this. Maybe you are town. :/


Feigning contribution is scummy yes, but nowhere did he do that at the time you had said he had done that. The start of the game does not count towards feigning contribution when all he's done is comment on a snowflake in the first hour of the game. That doesn't make anyone mafia ever and was a bs EXAGGERATED read that I do not and will not ever agree on. People have done the exact same thing as town in many many many many many more games so it's not OBJECTIVELY scummy at all, it's entirely subjective because it's what you think which goes against the actual facts.

There's quite a difference between scum reading someone for what you said and scum reading him for something entirely different. He might not end up being scum and then I can look back and remember that your pressure was far more exacerbated than it should have been in that situation. Telling you that your initial logic for scum reading him was bad has nothing to do with him looking scummy for his reaction. It's an observation.

Well bolded is just your opinion just like my opinion is that Hopeless' early posting is scummy. I don't think the read is exaggerated at all, I think the posts I pointed out CLEARLY illustrate Hopeless trying to blend in. But I guess you're right, that's my opinion.

But the italicized is obviously an exaggeration because no one has ever made the post Hopeless made in response to Chez because Hopeless has never made that post in any other game in response to Chez. People have done SIMILAR things, but no one has done "the exact same" thing ever. See how easy that is to just switch on? Like, it doesn't matter if you're exaggerating or not, you're just making a point right?

My logic wasn't bad - you disagree with the severity of the infringement in the posts I pointed out, but the logic is fucking sound Holyflare. That's why I say you're repeatedly trying to discredit me...because you're saying things that are blatantly untrue in an attempt to make me look bad - WHILE I find someone who YOU find suspicious...suspicious. Why? Why are you doing that?


he's made posts like that in games before!? I don't know what you're even arguing about anymore because it's seemingly just crazy semantics where you want to prove that your opinion is the best opinion

he's made posts like that before as town
other townies have made posts like that before as town
you say only scum make posts like that to blend in
he reacts poorly
you start to pile things onto him which also don't make him scummy
i say your first part is wrong and your qt crap is wrong and it's scummy that you're so absolute about this read but his reaction is pretty scummy

all I've done is negate the extreme pressure you are putting on him and your misleading of the thread by correcting you and showing the thread the only points that could possibly make him mafia


My logic wasn't bad - you disagree with the severity of the infringement in the posts I pointed out, but the logic is fucking sound Holyflare.


I disagree with the whole premise. The logic is not sound as I have explained that townies and hopeless as a towny have made posts like that before. It's silly that you try and turn it into the EXACT wording he uses and says it makes him different when it doesn't at all.
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