No the day one vote is completely useless now. Everyone getting votes was literally town. That whole ve holy , hopeless shit was worse then we thought.

...

KillerSOS was town, hopeless voted him, Templar voted him. Both townies.

Votecount is actually informative, but not in the way you're doing it.

GlowingBear

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November 25 2014 20:21 GMT

#2050

On November 26 2014 05:07 Damdred wrote:
we should lynch SL tommorow i think its the best thing to do

Oh damdy.
Ooooh damdy.

Why do I have such a bad time reading you?

Why not slam?

GlowingBear

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November 25 2014 21:02 GMT

#2056

On November 26 2014 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB i like your list. Not the reasoning.
Add damdred and you prolly got them all.

Teach me, then, sempai.

What's wrong with my reasoning and what is a better reason to lynch them?

GlowingBear

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November 25 2014 21:03 GMT

#2057

On November 26 2014 06:02 sicklucker wrote:
Like every mafia in your list was trying to kill me. Im like never the lynch even if you think im mafia were in lylo theirs better targets. We HAVE to hit.

Hm, no. They were actually not really pushing your lynch. Just voting you with no real intention to lynch you

GlowingBear

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November 25 2014 21:16 GMT

#2059

On November 26 2014 06:12 sicklucker wrote:

Show nested quote +

Its not tho in alot of worlds thats what mafia wants to happen to win in lylo. The only people who dont want me voted are the most likely towns. The rest who want me gone are most likely mafia a. It makes no sense for mafia to bus me if ve.rayn.lian,ritoky all think im town if that makes any sense. Two of them are confirmed and the other two are getting the most town read of everyone.

I understand if you dont think im town but thinking im the best lynch today is scummy and what mafia should want.

Who do we lynch then?

GlowingBear

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November 25 2014 21:27 GMT

#2061

Slam it is.

GlowingBear

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November 25 2014 22:35 GMT

#2063

On November 26 2014 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am dead tired so i only draw you this masterpiece.
[image loading]

peace.

C'mon Rayn...

GlowingBear

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November 26 2014 00:20 GMT

#2065

Yeah, game is dead. What a shame.

GlowingBear

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November 26 2014 01:58 GMT

#2067

GlowingBear

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November 26 2014 02:02 GMT

#2068

GlowingBear

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November 26 2014 02:15 GMT

#2069

Ok people, I had an idea.
I believe scum is splitting themselves into two distinct circles, and they are pushing the townies like the following image;

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GlowingBear

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November 26 2014 12:41 GMT

#2102

Those soft claims mean nothing if the roleblocker can choose to forego his ability.

Liancourt was an awesome night kill, it narrows lynch targets greatly. Thank you mafia.

Rayn, if Chezinu claims being the doctor while not believing you're town until now he is obvious mafia. I don't know how good Chez is but this looks so lame that it looks like he is trying to draw attention to be the lynch target.

In other words, I don't believe the roleblocker would be so careless to commit that mistake right now.

GlowingBear

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November 26 2014 12:45 GMT

#2103

It actually doesn't matter if he is confirmed mafia right now to be honest, because we don't have a strong idea of who are his partners.

Killing the confirmed mafia right now isn't that good because we know what is going to happen at night. Ritoky will be roleblocked and VE will die. We will be in the same situation we are in now in the next day.

We should risk lynching other player trying to find the roleblocker instead lynching Chez today. If we manage to kill the roleblocker, game is solved: ritoky saves VE, VE shoots Chez and we just have to figure out the other two

GlowingBear

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November 26 2014 13:05 GMT

#2105

On November 26 2014 21:55 ritoky wrote:
@GB 2 questions:

1) why should i read you town?
2) if you are town, then there is 1 other town in the game outside of me, VE, and rayn; who is it?

1) Because I'm town. Period. I've put more effort into figuring the game out than anyone else. I'm one of the most prolific players in the thread, since when nobody is talking, I'm constantly trying to put thoughts here and to keep the thread going on. I can't convince anyone I'm town. You should evaluate that for the way in playing this game.

2) I have read damdred as town for a while. He has both of his scum and town metas. As I stated before, I'm having a hard time reading him properly. But now that you say it, I think SL's claim is fake. This is WIFOM, but: lian court was never going to be healed. It seems to me that it was a good strategy to kill someone, let the medic waste his power, and have someone claim being roleblocked to get town cred. So it makes FF the final town.

What do you think of it? What do you think of damdred?

GlowingBear

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November 26 2014 13:09 GMT

#2106

BTW, now that Chez is mostly confirmed mafia, it makes SL looks worse because of Chez, vote switch from SL to Templar.

GlowingBear

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November 26 2014 13:17 GMT

#2109

On November 26 2014 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Show nested quote +

If you are town you should KNOW who is mafia.
Yet we "don't have a strong idea whoi is mafia".
Ok man...

This game is so laughable.

Lol Rayn.

You've done nothing in this game but bragging and calling me scum without even reading what I write. You had Templar as certain mafia and me as certain mafia. You were wrong in both.
If you have a strong idea on who is mafia like you had before, you simply have no idea.

But you can tell me who is mafia so I can never vote him. It may help.

Ritoky, who did you heal this night?

GlowingBear

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November 26 2014 13:41 GMT

#2111

On November 26 2014 22:37 ritoky wrote:
i healed rayn again, thought the mafia wouldn't target VE cuz he can't shoot in fear of potentially losing the game. so i was deciding between protecting confirmed town or protecting my other town read: lian (in the event the mafia went hunting for medic). ultimately i figured protecting a confirmed versus a read was the better course; turns out i was wrong.

Lol you thought of protecting lian?

Lololol.

Anyway, what do you think of the others things I've brought to light?

GlowingBear

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November 26 2014 14:18 GMT

#2113

On November 26 2014 22:52 ritoky wrote:

Show nested quote +

yes, there was literally a 1% chance VE died last night in my mind, then rayn was confirmed, and i had 1 other town read who was role bait for days. it was basically a coin toss in my head. chose wrong.

as for your points, i am a little confused by you at the moment, might be because i am about to go to sleep. but you seem to be REALLY overcomplicating this. if you're town you need to find 1 town read out of the non-ritoky,VE,rayn players left and then the game is auto from there.

as for my personal opinions on who the 2 other towns are i am withholding those until everyone pleads their case or at least has had a chance to. also i would like to be more awake and thinking properly.

Ok, so, this is from my perspective. If I consider every claim to be legit, this would be the list.

Town
1) GB
2) Rayn
3) VE
4) Ritoky
5) Chez
6) FF
7) SL

Scum
8) Damdred
9) Slam

So, of course there are two people fakeclaiming. One fakeclaiming medic and the other fakeclaiming being roleblocked.

I believe more in your claim than in Chez claim. But I find bizarre that you had no reaction to it.
But I still believe in yours because I can see more of a scum chez than a scum Ritoky.

Between FF and SL, I believe in FF claim. It's because at day one, mafia will try to roleblock because they have to block the vigi. FF fits the lurking blue mindset.
On night 2, vigi wasn't going to shoot, and medic would probably heal between Rayn and VE. So what does scum needs to do? They need to kill an improbable heal and a possible blue. Liancourt was the option (I couldn't be because I tried to take a bullet on night1).
The thing here is: THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE THE ROLEBLOCK ABILITY. They can FAKECLAIM being roleblocked and get town credit. I think that is what happened here.

Which makes the final list like this:

b]Town[/b]
1) GB
2) Rayn
3) VE
4) Ritoky
5) FF

Scum
6) Chez
7) SL
8) Damdred
9) Slam

Which is most probably the final list.

The only thing that I'm hesitating a little is that damdred has being pushing SL the entire game.

But the rest is most likely to be scum. Slam is certainly scum and I think he should be the lynch target today.

plan for night3

You're mostly confirmed town, ritoky, but if we still have any doubt on who is fake claiming, there is a way to solve it.
If we lynch the roleblocker, vigis shot will go through. In case there is only 1 death, someone was healed. If it was vigis target, he just need to say "my target was healed". Then you just have to say who you saved and then you are confirmed.

GG anyway.

GlowingBear

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November 26 2014 14:26 GMT

#2114

Oh, also: Chez fits the lurking blue mindset much more than liancourt, who acted like a bait (very risky if blue).

So if chez was town and mafia was trying to kill the medic, they would shoot Chez tonight, not liancourt.

Lol scum team should just concede at this point.

SLAM
CHEZ
DAMDRED
SL