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The_Templar
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November 23 2014 22:15 GMT
#1648
On November 24 2014 07:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Who said i was confied town? Lol

Obviously, you're confirmed town because you might vote me
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The_Templar
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November 23 2014 22:23 GMT
#1652
On November 24 2014 07:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 07:15 The_Templar wrote:
On November 24 2014 07:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Who said i was confied town? Lol

Obviously, you're confirmed town because you might vote me

... He just had an arrow pointing from me to "not confirmed town"

I was asking why I was being unconfirmed town when I was never confirmed at all.

Oh. He read you town but it wasn't confirmed by the night actions I guess
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The_Templar
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November 23 2014 22:33 GMT
#1655
On November 24 2014 07:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Are you even reading the game, temp?

No, I'm doing a project right now
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The_Templar
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November 23 2014 22:40 GMT
#1661
On November 24 2014 07:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 07:35 liancourt wrote:
On November 24 2014 07:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Please lynch slam.
Pls pls pls.


after temp dies

can u vote temp


Nope, I town read him.

no you don't
On November 24 2014 01:18 GlowingBear wrote:
[image loading]

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The_Templar
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November 23 2014 22:47 GMT
#1665
On November 24 2014 07:45 GlowingBear wrote:
You're really not fucking reading the game lol

No, I'm not currently. I might also note that I might have seen that post better if you bothered to unvote me.

Interesting that you voted me and then read me town based on the exact same post, though
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The_Templar
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November 23 2014 22:52 GMT
#1669
On November 24 2014 07:49 liancourt wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

This also confused me. By the way, you only put red/green/blue names once they're confirmed.
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The_Templar
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November 23 2014 22:52 GMT
#1670
On November 24 2014 07:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 07:47 The_Templar wrote:
On November 24 2014 07:45 GlowingBear wrote:
You're really not fucking reading the game lol

No, I'm not currently. I might also note that I might have seen that post better if you bothered to unvote me.

Interesting that you voted me and then read me town based on the exact same post, though


I VOTED SLAM
WITH A HUGE PICTURE
A HUGE PICTURE WITH A BASKETBALL BALL
BECAUSE SLAM DUNK

I missed that... sorry
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The_Templar
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November 23 2014 23:05 GMT
#1679
On November 24 2014 07:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdred, Templar, lets vote slam?

I can't find why you wanted to lynch him in the first place, explain?
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The_Templar
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November 24 2014 01:03 GMT
#1736
On November 24 2014 09:24 liancourt wrote:
@temp

was your SL case bait?

You said you don't like meta reads and yet you did a case based on one.

And you make a "sarcastic" post saying gb found the flaw in your case. WTF is this all about?

Personally, I don't trust meta reads done by other people, but I trust my own meta reads on people I've played with before. I don't trust your meta read on SL. Unless other people can back up your meta read on SL i'm not taking that case into consideration.

No, my post before emphasizing how much I dislike meta reads was the 'bait'. The primary purpose was to see who was actually reading. Unfortunately, GB found it too quickly so it was pointless
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The_Templar
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November 24 2014 01:19 GMT
#1740
On November 24 2014 10:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 10:03 The_Templar wrote:
On November 24 2014 09:24 liancourt wrote:
@temp

was your SL case bait?

You said you don't like meta reads and yet you did a case based on one.

And you make a "sarcastic" post saying gb found the flaw in your case. WTF is this all about?

Personally, I don't trust meta reads done by other people, but I trust my own meta reads on people I've played with before. I don't trust your meta read on SL. Unless other people can back up your meta read on SL i'm not taking that case into consideration.

No, my post before emphasizing how much I dislike meta reads was the 'bait'. The primary purpose was to see who was actually reading. Unfortunately, GB found it too quickly so it was pointless


This doesn't make sense.
1) What can you draw from people actually reading?
2) Why is it unfortunately, as it proved someone was reading?

I was trying to figure out who wasn't paying any attention. So, someone actually reading didn't help.

In retrospect, it was a really bad idea, but I was not lying about it, I would have done exactly the same thing without thinking about it except I wouldn't have made that comment.
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The_Templar
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November 24 2014 01:24 GMT
#1743
On November 24 2014 10:21 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
I like this post the most, and it's why I don't like meta-reads. People do change ideas, methods of playing, and the players they are playing against (and their opinions of them), sort of every game. I prefer to stay only inside the thread, so I'm ok with most of the reads on me so far. (Although I have a pretty obvious style of play as both mafia and town that I refuse to/can't change).
While this isn't particularly relevant, it's how I am viewing the game which is probably important if Rayn fails to lynch me today.


so temp ur saying this post was bait for the case on SL????


Yes
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The_Templar
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November 24 2014 01:35 GMT
#1747
On November 24 2014 10:30 sicklucker wrote:
Do you see why your "trap" was do bad templar. I just pointed out lian missing something that I clearly noticed but I didnt need to risk getting lynched to do it. Im not buying it.

Yes, I see it. >.>
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The_Templar
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November 24 2014 01:55 GMT
#1751
On November 24 2014 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 09:17 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm out people.

Reevaluate your reads. I want to lynch between sick lucker, ritoky, or slam today. Give thoughts.

Also, I want damdred to comment on Templar and Templar to comment on damdred. I also want both commenting on slam. You guys are refusing to do this awesome.


Templar, please comment on damdred. How do you read him?

Damdred, please comment on Templar. How do you read him?

Templar and Damdred, please comment on Slam. What do you think of him? How do you read him

If you guys keep ignoring these questions I'll lynch both.

Bookmarked. I'm not going to be available for most of tonight but they will be answered tomorrow well before deadline
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The_Templar
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November 24 2014 02:00 GMT
#1753
On November 24 2014 10:59 liancourt wrote:
look he's fucking off again under pressure while making scum excuses for his future absence

Yes, because I would do this over and over for no good reason
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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
November 24 2014 14:02 GMT
#1814
On November 24 2014 22:56 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 22:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 24 2014 22:41 ritoky wrote:
On November 24 2014 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hosts can you confirm whether or not a doctor save is informed in case they get shot.

regardless of if the host says yes or no, the fact that you posted this gives me a town boner

Why? If the hosts say "no" i am mafia so what the fuck are you talking about?!?!


you asked can you confirm this, if host says no, that would be the host saying "i can't confirm it", which is different from "not notified" am i right or am i tired? only reason i came back was i remembered i need to post a picture, so i offer this very realistic rendition of a tree:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

You're tired. If the host says no, as in a doctor save is not informed, Rayn is almost certainly mafia. They're not saying whether a save is informed or whether they can confirm this.
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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
November 24 2014 14:03 GMT
#1815
On November 24 2014 22:28 ritoky wrote:
people posting around the time of that post:

rayn, GB, templar, damdred, slam

@damdred, slam, templar - why did you not question rayn in regards to his save claim particularly when there's nothing in the rules about it and someone even pointed it out?

I was not around until 4 hours after that post was made....
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The_Templar
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your Country52797 Posts
November 24 2014 14:18 GMT
#1818
On November 24 2014 23:16 GlowingBear wrote:
This connection between you an VE is also unfounded lol.

YOU'RE TRYING TO LYNCH OBVIOUS TOWN AND YOU KNOE IT. YOU'RE TRYING NOTHIG TO CONFIRM YOUR READ ON ME OR TO SOLVE THE REST OF THE GAMD. YOU JUST WANT TO LYNCH THE SHIT OUT OF ME BECAUSE YOU'RE MAFIA OR INSANELY BAD THIS GAME

yes, because this is obviously how Rayn usually plays...
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The_Templar
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November 24 2014 14:58 GMT
#1822
On November 24 2014 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 09:17 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm out people.

Reevaluate your reads. I want to lynch between sick lucker, ritoky, or slam today. Give thoughts.

Also, I want damdred to comment on Templar and Templar to comment on damdred. I also want both commenting on slam. You guys are refusing to do this awesome.


Templar, please comment on damdred. How do you read him?

Damdred, please comment on Templar. How do you read him?

Templar and Damdred, please comment on Slam. What do you think of him? How do you read him

If you guys keep ignoring these questions I'll lynch both.

Damdred is a null read, Alakaslam is a town --> null --> slight scum read as I read through his filter.

Damdred's responses to my pressure are towny, although they take a while to get anywhere.
My first problem with him now is his response here.

On November 24 2014 11:49 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 24 2014 09:17 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm out people.

Reevaluate your reads. I want to lynch between sick lucker, ritoky, or slam today. Give thoughts.

Also, I want damdred to comment on Templar and Templar to comment on damdred. I also want both commenting on slam. You guys are refusing to do this awesome.


Templar, please comment on damdred. How do you read him?

Damdred, please comment on Templar. How do you read him?

Templar and Damdred, please comment on Slam. What do you think of him? How do you read him

If you guys keep ignoring these questions I'll lynch both.


Sorry just got home from work crazy day.

I'll start off with Slam. I really don't know how to read slam, Oats or VE told me you can tell something about slams alignment how freely he posts and if he makes posts that actually make sense. If thats actually correct then he looks townish even if he was wrong on the kos.

Templars is a really hard alignment for me, i had a town read going into the night with him with how he was thinking. But his night activity with hitting me over the head for thinking he was towny really set me back on him and left a bad taste in my mouth.

He read me as pinkish at one point during the night (mafia lean) I take it, but now has me null by his last drawing, his case for today was some form of trap for people to stumble into which doesn't make much sense to me. He also said last night that if my play did not improve dramatically he would lynch me but besides a few posts in response to me hasn't really pushed me or tried to get me lynched despite my activity being low again today in fact he only mentioned my scum read SL and I think hes willing to vote with me. All of its really weird play when you consider last night and today and fell off activity wise so i'm moving him into my scum lean category


So first of all, he doesn't actually answer your question about slam. He also tried to make me look worse than I should look for pressuring him over the night. Let me put something very clearly right now: I was not reading him as a slight pink solely because he was saying I was town, but because he was trying to look like he was contributing without providing any substance.

He ridiculed my pressure of him in its aftermath which is extremely confusing, acting as if I should have never tried. So, I read him null at the time as these two conflict quite a bit.
Also,
On November 24 2014 12:35 Damdred wrote:
Also was just rereading something to see if i remembered correctly, besides SL and his paint Temp hasn't given reads today even though hes asked and dodged a lot today about them. Also his read on SL is just a trap so not sure

Why didn't you go at him again about those reads he was hesitant to share with you before GB?

I already said this was an actual meta-read, and that it didn't exist for the sole purpose of being a trap. I said this multiple times so I don't know why he's mentioning anything else.

Alakaslam:

I don't really know him at all and he's extremely confusing.

That said, his posts towards the end of day one gave me a town vibe as he was active, asking questions to gather current data instead of merely reading the thread to catch up (although it seems he did both). The exception:
On November 22 2014 08:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Let's kill Liancourt.

Because why not. Someone defense him for to FITE ME because I dont' think he will even defend himself.

Followed by a "You don't want to lynch him? Then who do you want to lynch?" post towards me, followed by switching to lead the lynch on the other lurker. If he was going to lynch a lurker, why did he bother to do anything besides figure out why he should unvote me?

On November 22 2014 11:21 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2014 11:15 ritoky wrote:
On November 22 2014 11:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Ritoky have you ever been in a game with Chezinu Izhunizech?

I can't remember if I spelled that right, sorry C

Please answer promptly ritoky.


nope, no idea who that is

...

Chezinu...

Anyway so Chezinu does as he does. He plays according to the House of Brown. He is the founder, I visit on occasion.

He sees VERY clearly with the eyes of CHUPAZI, my own vision is about 20:20 left eye, 20:32 right eye. However Chezinu sees with a clarity unsurpassed at 20:10 both eyes.

As scum he is to be feared. He will snipe every blue and guide the RB, allowing the blues to live just long enough that they do not realize they are compromised.

As town he is indecipherable to the scum, suddenly he knows your alignment and you do not know how, but he simply KNOWS. I fear him more when I roll scum than just about anyone on the site.

He is not to be lost Day1.

Also, I'm curious on this post. I have seen no evidence of what Chezinu has been said to be capable of in this thread. All he is doing is posting images of various geometric shapes, save one large list of reads. So unless he "knows" the mafia the above post is just filler.

His day 2 activity is similarly confusing to me. His activity pre-page o' spam mainly consists of talking about the night actions and not actually doing anything about the reads flying around, as he did in day 1.

On November 24 2014 15:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Deli rean is actually pretty slow.

You know I find that often, when vets early in the game make a read but it gets ignored and is followed by a mislynch, the read was actually correct.

Having been humbled, and finding all The vets are most likely town, I will vote Templar with my phone paint

In case sent doesn't recognize it

Nice explanation of voting me... wait

Most of his posts that aren't talking about the night actions are "I will consider this" followed by not really doing anything about it, filler, asking for help figuring people out, or stuff I actually can't read like this

On November 24 2014 15:30 Alakaslam wrote:
Oh! True I haven't given reads...

So I would say Sicklucker and Lian aren't cool, but Lian wants to lynch temp, similar to vets, doubt he would bus after attention fell away. So can't both be scum!

Glowing bro b mah brodda, seems he wouldn't like that; guess he just that HAWT gal in high school dat iz lieks by erry body but h8s ppl, including me

Den vets praktikal konfirm SSON; town actually in a very good place.

I give Chezinu much earlier you should know how I see him

Who is left?

Ah damdred I dunno I DINNAE see him

The thing about the Chezinu read in this post is that we don't know how Alakaslam sees him. We just know that he respects him as a player, nothing he has said about Chezinu is actually alignment-indicative.

I don't know, he seems like he is dodging doing anything helpful that makes sense. His list of reads looks rushed (and I can barely read it) and he hasn't done anything original since day 1 at all except filler. I feel like this heavily depends on his meta but I've already been driven to madness by looking through his filter here.

On November 24 2014 23:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 22:41 ritoky wrote:
On November 24 2014 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hosts can you confirm whether or not a doctor save is informed in case they get shot.

regardless of if the host says yes or no, the fact that you posted this gives me a town boner

+1 rayn

Will you still have this opinion if Rayn is basically confirmed as mafia by the host? (Although I seriously doubt that will happen as mafia Rayn probably asked by PM, no?)
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The_Templar
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November 24 2014 14:59 GMT
#1823
On November 24 2014 23:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 23:40 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 24 2014 22:28 ritoky wrote:
people posting around the time of that post:

rayn, GB, templar, damdred, slam

@damdred, slam, templar - why did you not question rayn in regards to his save claim particularly when there's nothing in the rules about it and someone even pointed it out?

Hi.

This is a good point. I actually wasn't here, but it is something I had already considered. It is highly unlikely to be false however and a really dangerous move for scum to pull because the medic knows who they saved. Therefore, while not holding Rayn 100% confirmed, I am basically consid-

Oh yeah.

Rayn also sees well with the eyes of Hijole; though different from Chupazi the way of Hijole is not useless. For tthis i then say ÁNDALE PUES RAYN


You know, medic could actually save mafia Rayn.

Anyway, this will confirm itself throghout the game.

WHO ARE WE LYNCHING TODAY?

You mean, medic saves the mafia Rayn from vig, mafia shoots Holyflare and janitor shoots hopeless (who was not generally considered to be towny)?
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November 24 2014 15:06 GMT
#1825
On November 25 2014 00:04 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2014 23:59 The_Templar wrote:
On November 24 2014 23:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 24 2014 23:40 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 24 2014 22:28 ritoky wrote:
people posting around the time of that post:

rayn, GB, templar, damdred, slam

@damdred, slam, templar - why did you not question rayn in regards to his save claim particularly when there's nothing in the rules about it and someone even pointed it out?

Hi.

This is a good point. I actually wasn't here, but it is something I had already considered. It is highly unlikely to be false however and a really dangerous move for scum to pull because the medic knows who they saved. Therefore, while not holding Rayn 100% confirmed, I am basically consid-

Oh yeah.

Rayn also sees well with the eyes of Hijole; though different from Chupazi the way of Hijole is not useless. For tthis i then say ÁNDALE PUES RAYN


You know, medic could actually save mafia Rayn.

Anyway, this will confirm itself throghout the game.

WHO ARE WE LYNCHING TODAY?

You mean, medic saves the mafia Rayn from vig, mafia shoots Holyflare and janitor shoots hopeless (who was not generally considered to be towny)?


Nope.
Vigi shoots hopeless
Mafia shoots holyflare
Luger fails (50% chance)

Mafia Rayn is healed by the doctor. He gets the notification. He sees the Luger failed and claims he was shot AND healed, confirming himself as town.

It's more likely that his claim is real, tbh. But this is a possibility, if everytime someone is healed, they know it, even if they aren't shot.

Seriously doubt that you would get notified a doctor healed you unless you were actually shot.
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