Campus Mafia (New/Newish Players Welcome)

On October 28 2014 09:14 Superbia wrote:
/in. Don't really need coach (i.e. has no priority).

On November 03 2014 07:16 Superbia wrote:
Welcome to Superbia's tunneling company!

I am currently offering a lucrative one-of-a-kind tunneling contract! Signing this contract means I tunnel the utter shit out of you today, most likely resulting in your lynch.

Are you town enough to survive the tunnel? Are you mafai and feel like taking a risk? First come first serve!

On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:


I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.

My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts.

On November 03 2014 12:57 Immaterial wrote:


I suppose the main post I'm referring to in regard to Superbia is Kelsier's:

+ Show Spoiler +

Superbia's initial posts seemed trollish at the very least. He just dropped the posts and bailed from the thread... Maybe he's just busy, but in any case it seems that doing what he did serves little purpose but to instill confusion/chaos among the town. Kelsier's reasoning in the post quoted above regarding Superbia seems sound.

On November 04 2014 00:37 Superbia wrote:
Ha! You have all underestimated Superbia's Digging Company!

The play is pretty straightforward. Experienced town is never going to take the contract for these reasons:
- If I'm town, I'll be wasting my time tunneling on a townie (from their perspective)
- If I'm mafia, I'll have a great excuse to go hard on them all day.

Scum, however, is more likely to take the contract for the following reasons:
- WIFOM
- I'm not afraid of being watched, I swear!
- Easy fallback on "Wow I can't believe you actually tunneled me, you're dumb as shit"

Since Sentinel is an experienced player (apparently), I'm pretty sure he's mafai here. Him following the badsnacks pressure train (and FF/kelsier's push) on me doesn't help. Why agree and then go against it?

##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel

Fecalfeast -


Why are you pushing someone for something that hasn't even happened yet? If you were really looking to catch scum you would wait for me to follow up and then evaluate from here. Pushing on someone for something insubstantial is pretty scummy: it's a losing strategy for town, and an easy way to get town-read as scum. Scum-lean on FF.

On November 05 2014 06:24 Superbia wrote:
Wait so we have an un-CCed cop claim? I just got back.

On November 05 2014 06:38 Superbia wrote:


Let me get this straight. You are hard claiming cop?

On November 07 2014 05:49 Superbia wrote:


I'm all for lynching Sentinel, but that is a dumb reason. Mod kills are the last thing that can be relied on. Also there will always be a warning first.

Why did you think Immaterial was a good lynch early today, btw?

On November 08 2014 03:20 Serejai wrote:
Easy question, sicklucker;

Why don't you want to be lynched? Please answer this in ten words or less.

On November 08 2014 03:55 Superbia wrote:
Why did you claim Serejai? You were never going to get lynched today.

On November 08 2014 04:51 Superbia wrote:
Neither you nor Serejai are getting lynched today. Kelsier is getting lynched today.

Kush should start doing shit tomorrow or he should have himself get MKed or replaced.

Imma should get MKed or replaced.

Elvis town.

Serejai town.

sicklucker leaning scum. The fact that I can't resonate with the logic behind his posts makes it incredibly hard for me to read him at this point in time. Seems very fixated on claiming town and being read town, which is why I'm reading him as possible scum.

batsnacks maybe town. Confirmed town if Kelsier flips scum.

Sentinel still scum. Scum read him d1, since then he has: 1. lynched the cop. 2. done nothing. Lynch for tomorrow.

FecalFeast still leaning scum. Hasn't really done much today except change vote from kelsier to a lurker (kush), which does not hold up well if kelsier ends up flipping scum. Why the fuck are you going after a lurker again on d2? No information to be gained from the lynch, no real reason behind the lynch, easy target. Priority target (alongside Sentinel) if kelsier flips scum.

Breshke leaning scum. Pushes on lurker (kush), which is scummy for the reasons described under FF. This post is also scummy or at best donkey town:


Let me get this straight: it's revealed that cop is being lynched a few minutes before EoD and the right number of people don't move their votes, so the cop ends up dying. Do you think this is fucking random or something? Scum had so much to gain from that lynch. Analyzing the votes is the way to gain information, especially in this case. For sure there was scum on LS. For sure there was scum who did not change their votes (in time). Guess what? You were among those who had their votes on LS in the end. This combined with the fact that you're basically telling us "not to analyze the votes too much" is pretty fucking scummy. Your tunnel on kush today is also a waste of time because we have essentially no information regarding kush.

On November 08 2014 05:09 Superbia wrote:


This is the massive problem with leaving Kelsier alive. We don't know for sure if he's a correct lynch, but he's going to be an easy lynch for the rest of the game. His presence will FUCK US UP during MYLO/LYLO. I'm not convinced that sicklucker will flip scum. Moreover, we get very little information from his lynch, because he has been in the game for essentially 1 day. Moreover, he was not part of the votes yesterday, which gives us even less information. Not the correct lynch. Lynch should be Kelsier.

On November 08 2014 08:17 Superbia wrote:
Honestly that was just incredible luck that we hit on kush. I can't believe you guys went with the worst choice. I guess it paid off, so I shouldn't complain too much.

On November 09 2014 06:22 Superbia wrote:


1. I don't personally know kush's meta. I've half played with the guy once, but don't remember any interactions (I replaced in during d2 as scum, and conceded the same day. He was town). His behaviour reminded me of experienced players who just lost interest in the game, and I've never seen one flip scum.

2. Sentinel: I had a (cute/dumb) little play during d1 which pinged out Sentinel for me. After I pressured him his response seemed pretty terrible to me. Looked like he was trying to insert himself into a group. Doesn't help that he wrote a bit regarding someone (I believe FF) from a perspective in which they were confirmed town (i.e. probably a scumslip, town is never confident enough to assume other people are town d1), even though he had no real read on them. He had his vote on the cop at EoD1, and I don't think he ever gave a proper explanation (doesn't really matter either, because you can claim afk or whatever). Has done absolutely nothing during d2.

FecalFeast: The FF I know is fine with pushing on almost everyone and I expect town-FF to be interacting with me throughout the game. This game FF has avoided me (though tbh I haven't been nearly as active as I've wanted to be), which is exactly what I expect his scum game to be (the game I was town and he was scum he was pretty afraid of me in scum QT). His d1 reads are forgetful. I remember his vote ended up on the cop, and he had some out of game reason to be afk during the very EoD (he did almost the exact same thing during the game I mentioned before, pretty sure I've never seen him afk during EoD when he's town, but admittedly, this is not strongly alignment indicative). His d2 play was basically tunneling on Kush without a good reason (imo), and I stand by my point that Kush was not really a good target. The fact that his vote didn't even end on Kush and he didn't even really help in the lynch doesn't help him at all.

Obi/Kelsier: Killed the cop. Honestly, the whole "he wouldn't trade his life for the cop if he was scum" is fucking WIFOM, because we're apparently not killing him because of that fact? That's just catch-22 bullshit. I stand by my logic that Obi/Kelsier needs to be lynched during this game, unless it's over after the FF lynch (which it may very well be).

On November 10 2014 07:25 Superbia wrote:
Fecal, do you think that LS' play is just a big act?

On November 10 2014 07:33 Superbia wrote:


So is he a newbie or a smurf?

On November 10 2014 07:33 Superbia wrote:
Obi did you figure out who the scum is yet? Also, how does it feel to replace scum in this situation? Miss me in the QT?

On November 10 2014 07:41 Superbia wrote:


I don't think it's completely impossible. However, someone mentioned earlier in the thread that newbie mafia is unlikely to post that much and basically speaks what's on their mind. I find myself agreeing with that read. I think the only way LS is scum here is if he's some sort of smurf, and is trying some sort of metagame thing. Which would probably never work out well in a newbie game.

Care you explain why you think I'm town here? I have barely put any time into the game, how are you reading me?

On November 10 2014 08:03 Serejai wrote:
Mafia could have not attacked for whatever reason. We have no way of knowing whether or not a shot went off now that the rules in the op have been changed.

On November 10 2014 08:57 Superbia wrote:
Nice slip Serejai.

Why are you confirmed town btw? Don't think you ever answered.

On November 10 2014 08:57 Superbia wrote:
Nice slip Serejai.

Why are you confirmed town btw? Don't think you ever answered.

On November 10 2014 09:42 Superbia wrote:


So cop gets lynched d1 and you don't think it's possible for mafia to just roleblock one of their own twice to get them town read?

On November 10 2014 09:46 Superbia wrote:


What? If I'm scum I probably have to bus Sentinel today. This is a very poor reason to town read me.

On November 11 2014 06:23 batsnacks wrote:
I was actually wondering when the real doctor would claim, if ever.

On November 11 2014 08:11 Superbia wrote:
Okay. I think FF may actually be town here:

1. I don't think Sent would have gone down like that if the last mafia was on everyone's (?) hit list.
2. I think FF would've conceded at this point in time.

On November 11 2014 08:29 Superbia wrote:
There was a question earlier about whether kush getting bussed himself is something he advocates. Has this been answered?

On November 12 2014 06:48 Superbia wrote:
Are you fucking serious rayn? This is what you got out of my filter? That you have no idea where my votes have been or what I have done to get my lynches lynched? Let me spell it out for you:

d1: Was going on Sentinel and my read starts solidying, then I come home during 2nd half of the day to see two cop claims fighting it out.
d2. I want to lynch sent or kelsier. As day goes by it becomes obvious that kelsier needs to die that day or will probably be alive for the rest of the game, so I push hard for kelsier's lynch.
d3: Lynch was really straightforward.

On November 12 2014 08:42 Superbia wrote:
I got roleblocked. Make from that whatever the fuck you want.

Also a little surprised bats was actually the doctor, or the hit for that matter.

On November 13 2014 07:50 Superbia wrote:


What do you actually plan to do this game?

On November 13 2014 08:18 Superbia wrote:


Like there's two ways you come into a thread as a standin, either you read the entire thread, which is usually boring as shit. Or you start asking questions and interact with everyone to see where everyone is at. Or some kind of combination. It's one thing to be lazy, it's another to do absolutely fuck all. Like all of the town standins I've seen come into the thread guns blazing in some sort of way. They do something like immediately declare that they're not going to read the entire thread and/or they just fucking go and do shit. Like they immediately jump in and start interacting and reading when necessary.

You haven't done anything. At all. You've made a promise about reading the thread, which in all honesty, I don't give a shit about. I could've told you exactly what happened from my POV if you bothered to fucking ask. A promise to read the thread, feeling dejected about it and then just doing nothing else is exactly what I expect a mafia subbing in to do here. There were other options you could've pursued after you figured out that reading the thread was not going to work for you, you did none of them. I was in the exact same situation last game, where I subbed into a mafia spot and mafia were losing hard, and your mind set feels completely similar.

On November 17 2014 07:07 Superbia wrote:
Agreed with Breshke. SL can you elaborate on that vote swap?

On November 17 2014 11:36 Superbia wrote:


Ten town points for the person who can tell me why this is scummy.

On November 05 2014 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:


Sucks having to counterclaim D1. Hope we have a doctor.

On November 18 2014 23:20 Superbia wrote:


So I'm the mafia here?

On November 18 2014 23:24 Superbia wrote:


What if SL dies then?

On November 18 2014 23:28 sicklucker wrote:
Super most of my interactions with obiwan tonight have suggested hes the scum here. He also thinks your a likely scum but at the same time he also wants to sleep? If we sleep and your the mafia we also lose so Hes kind of caught imo

Basically I went into this setting a trap. Whoever wants to sleep has to clearly be scum here. while the one who is convinced by me that sleeping is really bad (because it is) The fact you came out and canceled the sleep vote is why your now confirmed town and why hes probably the scum.

On November 21 2014 02:14 Superbia wrote:
Pretty much every (dead) confirmed has hard read me as town. I have no idea what SL's read on me is or why he's reading me town, but I don't think that's particularly alignment indicative given the circumstances.

I think it's fine that you are evaluating me independent of what has been said so far, but I would have expected you to have reached a conclusion long ago. There's a reason why the entirety of town so far has read me town, and you should've either come to that conclusion as well, or have evidence as to think otherwise. The fact that you have done neither makes me believe that you have not been evaluating the game and have just been stalling and asking questions for the sake of asking questions. I.e. you're scum.

On November 21 2014 02:25 Superbia wrote:


SL's analysis on me? He has been sheeping Rayn's reads for most of the game iirc.

You've been asking questions about me being town for the past days. It fucking boggles my mind to think that any town would just continuously ask the same question over and over again and not reach any conclusion. I don't buy it.

On November 21 2014 02:42 Superbia wrote:


I echo the desire to see where Sere stands on me (or anyone for that matter) at this point in time. Which is why I asked people to put down their thoughts on everyone by the EoN before the flip.

I just don't see what you have accomplished with your questions. You say they were partially to get a read on me, but you did not reach any conclusion regarding my alignment. Did you reach any conclusion regarding Sere or SL based on this question?

Getting a read on me in real-time is fine, but I fail to see how this has anything to do with asking others questions about me.

On November 21 2014 02:46 Superbia wrote:


So what will your approach be for tomorrow?

On November 21 2014 02:56 Superbia wrote:


Then why is she town?