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I don't believe Elvis to be mafia. While he seems inconsistent at times he shows he has some sort of thought process that he can actually argue for and he does it.
Cava fucking off from the game totally doesn't really make him look townie. I liked Kelsier but then again he is not new because he is capable of very skilled play, at least as town. I would think he could do that as mafia aswell.
My problem is the targets Superbia is proposing look really fucking good for me but otherwise his posting and activity -- compared to his earlier scum/town games does look way way way more like his scumplay. It's like he is more cocky and doesn't give any fucks about how he looks as town and in this game he seems more interested in how other people view him rather than convincing people his targets are mafia.
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Elvis i really do not know who you think is mafia and why atm.
In case i missed something could you point me out to a case or anything like that? On D3.
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Do you think Sentinel is mafia or not?
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Because finding town is far easier than finding scum.
Finding confirmed town is really fucking easy because one dude just has to claim they were protected and BAM, they are confirmed town...
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Yeah i am erally puzzled at Elvis not seeing why Serejai has to be town.
It doesn't make any fucking sense.
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On November 10 2014 09:00 Elvis! wrote:
So sicklucker you think bats is being sketchy, but you don't see a world where he is scum with rayn.
So if we "blindly" follow rayn since he's apparently confirmed town and apparently he always talks the truth and knows everything because he played more?
I don't think so.
He's just a possible townie like everyone else.
lol.
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On November 10 2014 09:42 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 09:36 sicklucker wrote:
Ok to explain to obiwan who has kind of an excuse to not know this. Serejai claims to have been roleblocked the last 2 nights. We have asked anyone who was roleblocked to come forward and counterclaim this if not we are confirming him as town. No one came forward in 2 straight nights this means two things.
Mafia didnt use roleblock for two straight nights which is VERY VERY UNLIKELY but not completely impossible or
hes town So cop gets lynched d1 and you don't think it's possible for mafia to just roleblock one of their own twice to get them town read?
This is incredibly unlikely because Grack actually dying on N1 makes either of these scenarios true for mafia:
1) Serejai is a doctor (if i was mafia i would hold that as 90% possibility because..) and that's why the night kill went through
2) The doctor is really fucking dumb and protected ANY other person in the game than Grack (10% because anyone with brain should have protected Grack -- and sorry doctor but this is true).
So going into D2 it is very likely that mafia thought Serejai is the doctor. Why? BECAUSE IT IS THE MOST OBVIOUS ANSWER. That means they can kill whoever they want on N2. However, apparently mafia played it safe -> didn't kill me and hit someone who is still stupid enough not to claim being hit!!! They also played it double safe because they blocked Serejai. It ONLY makes sense if they thought Serejai is the doctor (based on N1 kill -- which again -- as explained, is the most reasonable answer).
However sometimes people's dumb targets do good for the town. That's not however good play. It just isn't.
Spoilered the rest because of off topic, we can discuss it more after the game.
+ Show Spoiler +At least on N1 (and i would recommend even further) you need to protect the biggest town assets. Just because they are likely to solve the game, unless you of course have a strong scumread on them (which only really matters AFTER N1)!! Not protecting Grackaroni on N1 is probably even worse play than Kelsier (if town) fakeclaiming cop because no other target was literally even close as good as protecting Grack.
But yeah, i hope why the above explains why Serejai is town -- mafia does not fucking waste roleblocks on themselves when they have just lost a member and there is actually a protective role alive that can confirm TWO people on one shot!!
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And what the fuck happened a while ago and why there were a ton of votes on Serejai?
Anyone explain?
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Of course i am because i am lynching Sentinel and then another scum.
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On November 10 2014 08:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 08:03 Serejai wrote:
Mafia could have not attacked for whatever reason. We have no way of knowing whether or not a shot went off now that the rules in the op have been changed. This is kind of my concern. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
Mind anyone explain me what this discussion is about?
Cava/Superbia?
From what the OP i am reading i gather it says "each night mafia must choose a player to kill". It's been like this since i first read the OP. "noone" is not a player in this game so explain please?
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On November 10 2014 07:48 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 07:45 Superbia wrote:On November 10 2014 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 10 2014 07:41 Superbia wrote:On November 10 2014 07:35 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 10 2014 07:33 Superbia wrote:On November 10 2014 07:29 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 10 2014 07:25 Superbia wrote:
Fecal, do you think that LS' play is just a big act? I do, yes. So is he a newbie or a smurf? Tryhard newbie, I imagine. You think it's impossible? He said he watches allstar mafia all the time. I don't think it's completely impossible. However, someone mentioned earlier in the thread that newbie mafia is unlikely to post that much and basically speaks what's on their mind. I find myself agreeing with that read. I think the only way LS is scum here is if he's some sort of smurf, and is trying some sort of metagame thing. Which would probably never work out well in a newbie game. Care you explain why you think I'm town here? I have barely put any time into the game, how are you reading me? Care to tell me where I put you town? I'm not done doing what rayn asked I'm currently looking at your filter in another tab and have about 3 tabs that say Reply! I'll be sure you know my read on you when I'm done <3 Looking forward to it. Why are you only doing it after rayn asked you to, though? I'm doing it because rayn wont budge on the "SL could have bussed kush" matter and his next scum is between you and me. From the info in thread, rayn is town until there is a counterclaim for medic so helping his figure out who scum is makes more sense than beating a dead horse.
shut up on this please. I was not hit last night, if i was i would have claimed it BECAUSE I AM NOT AN IDIOT WHICH SOMEONE IS!!!
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EVERY SINGLE TOWNIE!!!
IN YOUR NEXT POST YOU mUST CLAIM IF YOU WERE HIT LAST NIGHT.
IF YOU DO NOT DO SO WE KNOW SEREJAI IS MAFIA.
IF YOU ARE LYING OR FOR ANY STUPID REASON DO NOT WANT TO CLAIM HER BLOOD IS IN YOUR HANDS!!!
I was NOT hit.
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On November 11 2014 01:11 Serejai wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2014 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 10 2014 07:48 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 10 2014 07:45 Superbia wrote:On November 10 2014 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 10 2014 07:41 Superbia wrote:On November 10 2014 07:35 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 10 2014 07:33 Superbia wrote:On November 10 2014 07:29 Fecalfeast wrote:On November 10 2014 07:25 Superbia wrote:
Fecal, do you think that LS' play is just a big act? I do, yes. So is he a newbie or a smurf? Tryhard newbie, I imagine. You think it's impossible? He said he watches allstar mafia all the time. I don't think it's completely impossible. However, someone mentioned earlier in the thread that newbie mafia is unlikely to post that much and basically speaks what's on their mind. I find myself agreeing with that read. I think the only way LS is scum here is if he's some sort of smurf, and is trying some sort of metagame thing. Which would probably never work out well in a newbie game. Care you explain why you think I'm town here? I have barely put any time into the game, how are you reading me? Care to tell me where I put you town? I'm not done doing what rayn asked I'm currently looking at your filter in another tab and have about 3 tabs that say Reply! I'll be sure you know my read on you when I'm done <3 Looking forward to it. Why are you only doing it after rayn asked you to, though? I'm doing it because rayn wont budge on the "SL could have bussed kush" matter and his next scum is between you and me. From the info in thread, rayn is town until there is a counterclaim for medic so helping his figure out who scum is makes more sense than beating a dead horse. shut up on this please. I was not hit last night, if i was i would have claimed it BECAUSE I AM NOT AN IDIOT WHICH SOMEONE IS!!! Rules were edited. Healed target is NOT notified anymore.
wait what the fuck.
when?
that's pretty fucking BS from hosts...
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Okay then disregard my latest posts.
That's a discussion post game.
But i'll say one thing because i cannot ignore it. The change was apparently made 2014-11-09 23:58:18 (this would be my time which is 2min before the deadline).
There is no way anyone can react to this so my point about Serejai still stands. She is 99% town because of what i said.
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On November 11 2014 01:16 batsnacks wrote:
ebwop I figured you were having a laugh or something trying to act like you didn't know you were saved.
you are really hard claiming?
well this kinda fucked everything up because you definitely should never have claimed. 
i thought someone made a dumb ( -- and also "good" play) and saved Breshke.
now this shit basically outed you as doctor.. meh. you were already town for D2 voting..
DOUBLEFACEPALM BLAZINGHAND!!!
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Anyways let's hope Sentinel is roleblocker so i can live to D3. 
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On November 11 2014 01:19 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 11 2014 01:17 Serejai wrote:
Also, can we talk about the healing here? If batsnacks is really the medic, and he really healed rayn... that's great. But rayn was a very obvious heal, so wouldn't an intelligent scum team have killed someone slightly less obvious?
Complete shot in the dark, but maybe the two remaining scum are both new players. I actually assumed grack was so obvious scum would never try to hit him N1. That theory failed so I just went with the obvious choice N2 and it worked out.
as i said never ever do that.
even if you miss a heal it does "less bad" than a big asset dying. ^_^
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okay who were the dudes telling bats is fakeclaiming and me and him are mafia?
Cava and superbia?
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bats let's be clear you were informed of a SUCCESFULL SAVE right?
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