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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 12:31 GMT
#1882
So what does make one of them mafia?
You just laid out reasoning that applies to two people. One of them is in your opinion mafia for it and the other one is stupid town. Why can't they both be stupid town based on it?

I really do not like cases where people include certain amount of people which they KNOW include townies and say "one/some of them mafia" because in the same post they PROVE it's not necessarily a scum trait because it's PROVEN in their mind a townie did the same thing aswell.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 12:48 GMT
#1885
On November 09 2014 07:15 Serejai wrote:
Caught one of the scum. Will post about it on Monday morning, or sooner if I can get hold of a laptop. Read some of my very last posts from D1 and people who commented on them. Want to see if anyone else notices before I drop a name.


On November 09 2014 21:31 Serejai wrote:
Sentinel is a lynch I'd go for but I'm not 100% sure he's scum simply because he's doing the same thing kush did; lurking, claiming inability to post (kush - power outage, sentinel - roomate having sex... For 24 hours straight apparently). It's possible that both scum would choose to play afk but how likely is that? I'm not experienced enough to know.


How does the green and red part make sense?
You caught scum but you still want to lynch Sentinel who you do not think is 100% scum? Why?
Why don't you want to lynch the mafia you caught and why can't you even lay out the reasoning for your 100% scumread?

Even if you are phoneposting it's not that hard to say a name and a paraphrased version of why you think they are mafia. This just doesn't make any sense to me and what it looks like you are trying to divert attention into people looking to something we don't even know what we should be looking for. What's the intention -- as town -- of being unclear of what you want people to focus on?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 12:49 GMT
#1886
On November 09 2014 21:46 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So what does make one of them mafia?
You just laid out reasoning that applies to two people. One of them is in your opinion mafia for it and the other one is stupid town. Why can't they both be stupid town based on it?

I really do not like cases where people include certain amount of people which they KNOW include townies and say "one/some of them mafia" because in the same post they PROVE it's not necessarily a scum trait because it's PROVEN in their mind a townie did the same thing aswell.


True. They both seem to want our medic dead, but there's a difference. Sicklucker wants our medic to reveal and has been blue hunting all game. He goes for the medic directly. Elvis goes for me all game - keeping in mind that scum thought I was the doctor - and only switched to sicklucker after he started talking about the medic so much. Elvis is going after the player he thinks is the medic and hasn't contributed anything else to the thread all game. He kept his vote on me D1 for no reason in order to stay under the radar when cop was lynched. He stayed out of voting for kush yesterday even though he thought kush was scum.

One of those seems scum. The other seems naive town.

You said you CAUGHT MAFIA!!!!
Which one is mafia and which one is not?!?!?!?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 13:19 GMT
#1887
Oh yeah the doctor's save should definitely claim because mafia knows that already.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 16:12 GMT
#1894
On November 10 2014 01:00 Serejai wrote:
Or is bat really claiming cop?

what the fuck?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 16:18 GMT
#1895
On November 09 2014 21:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2014 21:46 Serejai wrote:
On November 09 2014 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So what does make one of them mafia?
You just laid out reasoning that applies to two people. One of them is in your opinion mafia for it and the other one is stupid town. Why can't they both be stupid town based on it?

I really do not like cases where people include certain amount of people which they KNOW include townies and say "one/some of them mafia" because in the same post they PROVE it's not necessarily a scum trait because it's PROVEN in their mind a townie did the same thing aswell.


True. They both seem to want our medic dead, but there's a difference. Sicklucker wants our medic to reveal and has been blue hunting all game. He goes for the medic directly. Elvis goes for me all game - keeping in mind that scum thought I was the doctor - and only switched to sicklucker after he started talking about the medic so much. Elvis is going after the player he thinks is the medic and hasn't contributed anything else to the thread all game. He kept his vote on me D1 for no reason in order to stay under the radar when cop was lynched. He stayed out of voting for kush yesterday even though he thought kush was scum.

One of those seems scum. The other seems naive town.

You said you CAUGHT MAFIA!!!!
Which one is mafia and which one is not?!?!?!?

Serejai could you answer this?

At the same time you could also answer this:
Apparently you think mafia is Sentinel and one of SL / Elvis. What purpose it serves to the town to hold on to your read during the DAY phase given you have "caught mafia" -- which kinda means you are sure of someone (other than Sentinel) being mafia? Also at the same time you STILL want to lynch Sentinel and not the dude you think you have caught. How does this make ANY sense at all?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 16:19 GMT
#1896
##Vote [UoN]Sentinel
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 16:38 GMT
#1899
Sentinel are you going to do anything or just gonna roll over and die?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 16:50 GMT
#1900
Bleh...

I am fucking wasting my time with Serejai. She cannot be mafia based on night actions alone.
Please start making sense ok? If you think Elvis! is mafia please lay out the reasoning. If you change your mind please tell why do you do so so i don't have to guess.

Is there anyone here to talk about anything? I can't get any further without bouncing ideas with anyone.... I look at stuff and always get to the same conclusion where mafia is Fecalfeast and one of Sentinel/Superbia but i can't fucking make myself lynch FF because both of the other guys are far more scummier.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 17:19 GMT
#1903
Where do you say the action is scummy in the first post because apparently i am missing it.
You lay out the possibilities and say you do not know if it's scummy or not. What am i missing?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 19:09 GMT
#1911
Okay Elvis are you around in real-time atm?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 19:13 GMT
#1913
Okay so here is what you wrote on KSC at night 1.
this is what i assume to be your conclusion in the post i already quoted:
Well played, Chelsea scum or weirdly played out, weird town Chelsea? I don't know at this point.

to me this means you do not know if the act from him (fake-claiming) is scummy or not. correct?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 19:21 GMT
#1916
Okay so.
You are not sure if the act is scummy or not.
However, on D2 you write this:
I really think KSC is a decent lynch but he hasn't even posted since forever and hasn't been scummy outside his outragously scummy EoD action

Where did this change and why? In the mean time you didn't do anything to figure out if the act you didn't know is scummy or not in fact is scummy (by talking to KSC about it -- which i would assume you to do as town, find a townie/scum motivation).

So as i originally said, what made you decide the fake-claim that wasn't scummy become outrageously scummy?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 19:23 GMT
#1917
On November 10 2014 04:21 Elvis! wrote:
actually no.
I was sure the act is scummy.
I didn't know if he is scum because of it or weird town (because weird town can make scummy actions)

Well then my follow up is why didn't you push him for it?
Townies tend to call people mafia for scummy things because mafia does scummy things (woah, a huge reveal ^^).

Why didn't you call him mafia if he did a scummy thing?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 19:30 GMT
#1921
On November 10 2014 04:24 Elvis! wrote:
Hmm maybe I phrased it wrongly.
I always thought the act was scummy.
I just didn't, and still don't know if there was mafia motivation behind it.
Also, a lot of people asked KSC why he did it already at that point.
No need to repeat that once more.

How can something be scummy if you do not know if there is mafia motivation or not?
Scummy things include mafia motivation!!! Otherwise they are not scummy things.

I understand many people asked KSC.
You however didn't take part to that discussion. On D2 start you pushed Serejai & Kelsier scumteam. However you ended up voting for Serejai for something in my opinion is connected to Kelsier's fake claim (which means the case itself only is true in case Kelsier is mafia -- in which case you should be voting for Kelsier -- otherwise your case on Serejai is invalid). Later on you drop the whole thing and end up on sicklucker?!!?!?? But you still call Kelsier mafia?

Like i do not really get what you were trying to do on D2. You did stuff, but i do not understand the meaning of any of it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 19:36 GMT
#1922
Oh nevermind your big post was really hard to read. So what i said about your first vote on D2 is incorrect.
But could you still explain in a couple of sentences what you were trying to do on D2. You were literally all over the place with no real direction.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 19:48 GMT
#1925
Okay. Where do you stand at the moment?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 20:40 GMT
#1927
So FF you are seriously trying to sell SL bussing kush basically all day long while being the opposing wagon to him?
How does this make any sense?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 20:46 GMT
#1929
On November 10 2014 05:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
From what I've heard about kush he prefers to be bussed as mafia or he busses his teammates. So yes, i can believe it.

Prefers to be bussed is different than busses.
I have never let kush getting bus himself when he has been mafia and i would assume most of the people won't let him do that aswell.
Yes he does bus. Did he bus sicklucker? Where?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 09 2014 20:58 GMT
#1931
On November 10 2014 05:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
K if kush doesn't prefer to be bussed then i guess sicklucker is just terrible town.

He did bus sentinel and regardless of how sicklucker spins it, he's trying to switch the vote off sentinel.

Who's your next biggest scum after sent and after me, so i can filter dive them and be useful?

superbia.
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