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Lynch for today is Kelsier or Sentinel at this point in time.
If Kelsier doesn't die before mylo and he's town, we lose the game. The counter-claim was incredibly bad/scummy (it was obvious that LS wasn't going to rescind early on). Three minutes is never enough in any forum game I've ever played. I'll re-iterate: Kelsier needs to be lynched before MYLO. Even if he's town, he's going to pose such a big fucking question mark that mafia will have an easy time getting a miss-lynch off. The fact that only bats is on him for this is ridiculous.
I've said everything I needed to already on Sentinel.
I want hear from both Sentinel and Immaterial why they had their vote on LS after the CC was rescinded. Very, very curious.
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On November 07 2014 05:29 sicklucker wrote: Actually im lost in my own train of thought. If sentinel was mafia HE WOULD NOT want criket voted off because he can get him mod killed AND lynch another town on the same night hes super scummy.
And sorry for being a terrible town and confusing everyone this is my final thought on that
##unvote
##vote [UoN]Sentinel
I'm all for lynching Sentinel, but that is a dumb reason. Mod kills are the last thing that can be relied on. Also there will always be a warning first.
Why did you think Immaterial was a good lynch early today, btw?
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Also need Kush to start doing shit, as someone pointed out before. No more lurkers.
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On November 07 2014 06:07 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2014 05:49 Superbia wrote:On November 07 2014 05:29 sicklucker wrote: Actually im lost in my own train of thought. If sentinel was mafia HE WOULD NOT want criket voted off because he can get him mod killed AND lynch another town on the same night hes super scummy.
And sorry for being a terrible town and confusing everyone this is my final thought on that
##unvote
##vote [UoN]Sentinel I'm all for lynching Sentinel, but that is a dumb reason. Mod kills are the last thing that can be relied on. Also there will always be a warning first. Why did you think Immaterial was a good lynch early today, btw? I felt like it was going to be hard to lynch other people in my scum list but because imma got so many votes I felt like he was the easiest one. I felt like we had some towns that were really off focus like elvis who are pushing other towns so I wanted the easy scum vote. when i voted imma I believe my words were "there one or two people id rather lynch over imma but I believe hes a good lynch" The person I was talking about was sentinel. I was kinda surprised people want to vote sentinel so im jumping on that. I think the main reason im surprised is because I was not here day 1 and sentinel is not here day 2... He has like completely checked out. Reasons are his votes his alignments and his inactivity like hes given up or trying to fly under the radar like hes a role. That last part was just more fuel on the fire.
Walk me through your thought process. Immaterial puts down a vote on LS early on and then fucks off for the rest of the day. Is it scummy at that point in time as well, or is it only scummy because LS flipped green (cop)? Why did you feel the need to put down a vote so early?
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On November 07 2014 06:02 Serejai wrote: This thread died fast after yesterday's fail lynch.
Yes, but you can't take anything from it. Afkers can be dejected town, lurking mafia, or lurking town.
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Why did you claim Serejai? You were never going to get lynched today.
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Also Bats has it right.
##Vote: KelsierSC
Sentinel with the most retarded excuse I've ever seen. Will read Elvis' ridiculously large post in a bit. So far Elvis is still in my town circle.
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On November 08 2014 03:57 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 03:20 Serejai wrote: Easy question, sicklucker;
Why don't you want to be lynched? Please answer this in ten words or less. No mafia team makes alot of sense with me in it
That's bullshit. You've had 0 interactions in d1, by virtue of replacing an afker. You haven't even interacted with everyone during d2, because there are a number of lurkers/afkers. Even without that, you can't ever say that at this point in the game.
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On November 08 2014 03:59 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 03:55 Superbia wrote:Why did you claim Serejai?  You were never going to get lynched today. He didnt claim
Yes she(?) did.
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Nevermind, I didn't read the context in which she said it. I blame skimming posts so far.
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No I'm just being a donkey.
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I'm fine with discussing on where we stand and getting out reads and everything but we're killing Kelsier today.
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Neither you nor Serejai are getting lynched today. Kelsier is getting lynched today.
Kush should start doing shit tomorrow or he should have himself get MKed or replaced.
Imma should get MKed or replaced.
Elvis town.
Serejai town.
sicklucker leaning scum. The fact that I can't resonate with the logic behind his posts makes it incredibly hard for me to read him at this point in time. Seems very fixated on claiming town and being read town, which is why I'm reading him as possible scum.
batsnacks maybe town. Confirmed town if Kelsier flips scum.
Sentinel still scum. Scum read him d1, since then he has: 1. lynched the cop. 2. done nothing. Lynch for tomorrow.
FecalFeast still leaning scum. Hasn't really done much today except change vote from kelsier to a lurker (kush), which does not hold up well if kelsier ends up flipping scum. Why the fuck are you going after a lurker again on d2? No information to be gained from the lynch, no real reason behind the lynch, easy target. Priority target (alongside Sentinel) if kelsier flips scum.
Breshke leaning scum. Pushes on lurker (kush), which is scummy for the reasons described under FF. This post is also scummy or at best donkey town:
On November 06 2014 11:47 Breshke wrote: Bats and serajai your scum reads today have been based mainly around the vote, who's fault it was and what the vote implicates. A lot of us fucked up yesterday and i think if we had had 5 minutes longer (yes bats i agree 3 minutes isn't long enough) i think the day would have ended very differently. While this was a massive thing that happend i think you are both focusing on it way too much.
Let me get this straight: it's revealed that cop is being lynched a few minutes before EoD and the right number of people don't move their votes, so the cop ends up dying. Do you think this is fucking random or something? Scum had so much to gain from that lynch. Analyzing the votes is the way to gain information, especially in this case. For sure there was scum on LS. For sure there was scum who did not change their votes (in time). Guess what? You were among those who had their votes on LS in the end. This combined with the fact that you're basically telling us "not to analyze the votes too much" is pretty fucking scummy. Your tunnel on kush today is also a waste of time because we have essentially no information regarding kush.
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On November 08 2014 04:48 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I don't like KSC for the D1 "shenanis" but at least he has had valid points since then. Kush does not.
I'd rather get rid of the useless one who isn't even trying to contribute.
##Vote: kushm4sta
LOOOOOL. Guess who's dying in this game?
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Also we're killing Kelsier today.
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Get your shitty votes on Kelsier before EoD or kill me tonight because I swear to god I will lynch the shit out of you all tomorrow.
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On November 08 2014 05:01 Elvis! wrote: Guys why are we not lynching someone scummy today and if he stays shit lynch the scummy lurker kush tomorrow? There is nothing we lose if we do that and if kush flips town which sadly enough is possible we're in a shitty spot. Will still defo go for him tomorrow if he doesn't out a role tomorrow (which is the only potentially legit reason to lurk like that). Also I get his argument about not internet a bit. My last mafia game a mate came over for the weekend as a surprise and I had no way of playing mafia, so I got replaced Day2. Kush isn't a good target today. Let's see if he's scummy tomorrow and lynch scum sicklucker today.
Your logic on kush is correct (except for the PR thing, lazy town is a thing, lurker town is a thing). Your vote for today is wrong. I understand the passion behind the gigantic post you made on him, but he's not the target for today.
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On November 08 2014 05:04 Elvis! wrote: Superbia KSC hasn't even posted anything superbia. He's not damaging town today and not disturbing us. Let's kill him later and he'll be a easy correct lynch. Let's lynch the guy who is spamming the thread with nonsense instead.
This is the massive problem with leaving Kelsier alive. We don't know for sure if he's a correct lynch, but he's going to be an easy lynch for the rest of the game. His presence will FUCK US UP during MYLO/LYLO. I'm not convinced that sicklucker will flip scum. Moreover, we get very little information from his lynch, because he has been in the game for essentially 1 day. Moreover, he was not part of the votes yesterday, which gives us even less information. Not the correct lynch. Lynch should be Kelsier.
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On November 08 2014 05:08 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 04:51 Superbia wrote:Neither you nor Serejai are getting lynched today. Kelsier is getting lynched today. Kush should start doing shit tomorrow or he should have himself get MKed or replaced. Imma should get MKed or replaced. Elvis town. Serejai town. sicklucker leaning scum. The fact that I can't resonate with the logic behind his posts makes it incredibly hard for me to read him at this point in time. Seems very fixated on claiming town and being read town, which is why I'm reading him as possible scum. batsnacks maybe town. Confirmed town if Kelsier flips scum. Sentinel still scum. Scum read him d1, since then he has: 1. lynched the cop. 2. done nothing. Lynch for tomorrow. FecalFeast still leaning scum. Hasn't really done much today except change vote from kelsier to a lurker (kush), which does not hold up well if kelsier ends up flipping scum. Why the fuck are you going after a lurker again on d2? No information to be gained from the lynch, no real reason behind the lynch, easy target. Priority target (alongside Sentinel) if kelsier flips scum. Breshke leaning scum. Pushes on lurker (kush), which is scummy for the reasons described under FF. This post is also scummy or at best donkey town: On November 06 2014 11:47 Breshke wrote: Bats and serajai your scum reads today have been based mainly around the vote, who's fault it was and what the vote implicates. A lot of us fucked up yesterday and i think if we had had 5 minutes longer (yes bats i agree 3 minutes isn't long enough) i think the day would have ended very differently. While this was a massive thing that happend i think you are both focusing on it way too much. Let me get this straight: it's revealed that cop is being lynched a few minutes before EoD and the right number of people don't move their votes, so the cop ends up dying. Do you think this is fucking random or something? Scum had so much to gain from that lynch. Analyzing the votes is the way to gain information, especially in this case. For sure there was scum on LS. For sure there was scum who did not change their votes (in time). Guess what? You were among those who had their votes on LS in the end. This combined with the fact that you're basically telling us "not to analyze the votes too much" is pretty fucking scummy. Your tunnel on kush today is also a waste of time because we have essentially no information regarding kush. Yes basing your read ENTIRELY on the vote is stupid as fuck. Vote logic is one part of the game you should be getting scumreads from peoples interactions and using vote logic to back it up. Also i know iw as in the group that lynched the cop idc but everyone who didn't vote immaterial as aswell so i was trying to show if you are going to use vote logic you have to use it on these people aswell. So you would like to give kush another free pass for nor eason. I've actually given reasons why kush is scum if you actuallly cared to read them. He isn't just lurking though he is posting enough to not get himself modkilled or replaced if we don't lynch him today i don't see why we don't jsut give him a pass for the rest of the fucking game. See how the excuse only comes when he is about to get lynched, yeah convenient.
I'm reading kush as lazy fucking town. Like your strongest scum read is a shitty lurker who was outside of the LS vote??? How can you even justify this.
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On November 08 2014 05:11 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 05:09 Superbia wrote:On November 08 2014 05:04 Elvis! wrote: Superbia KSC hasn't even posted anything superbia. He's not damaging town today and not disturbing us. Let's kill him later and he'll be a easy correct lynch. Let's lynch the guy who is spamming the thread with nonsense instead. This is the massive problem with leaving Kelsier alive. We don't know for sure if he's a correct lynch, but he's going to be an easy lynch for the rest of the game. His presence will FUCK US UP during MYLO/LYLO. I'm not convinced that sicklucker will flip scum. Moreover, we get very little information from his lynch, because he has been in the game for essentially 1 day. Moreover, he was not part of the votes yesterday, which gives us even less information. Not the correct lynch. Lynch should be Kelsier. how isnt kush an easy lynch for the rest of the game? This is ridiculous.
I'm honestly expecting him to be replaced if he doesn't become more active. Also lurkers come out of their shells when the players reduce because there is no way to hide. You can't lurk yourself to victory regardless of alignment. It's a losing strategy for either alignment.
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