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You didn't. You still think your reads were good and that you solved the game. Gratz, you pushed an afk mafia. | ||
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On November 13 2014 10:26 sicklucker wrote: Except at the time I forgot how he pocketed you. But I will give you props for tunneling 1 of 2 correct people congrats. Serejai played you like a fiddle. The only reason you stayed on serejai is because you didnt understand wtf a role block was more then reads lets be honest. You almost lost this for town. If im mislynched and kush and sent stick around longer serejais fake roleblock woulda won him the game. Woah calm down. Serejai didn't pocket me, I never called him anything better than null. But since noone cc'd in days I would've gotten lynched if I pushed him more since everyone considered him confirmed town. Also there wasn't a point indicating me not knowing what a role block was, I don't get where you got that from. I also don't get how I remotely made town lose this game. Like I'm not gonna go in depth with this post. Holy fucking shit calm down. | ||
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As indicated by my posts, I thought this game was over, since it's not unlikely for scum to concede at this point. It's not like the atmosphere in this town wasn't terrible already. Now things are even more fucked up. | ||
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Look how many of his posts are "I'm town because", "I'm definitely not scum because [WIFOM]". Also, where did I ignore questions directed at me? Did you see what the questions directed at him tried to do and how he just said they're all terrible and he doesn't even wanna read it? Ignoring negative things said about him, well he ignores anything that's said about him. If he's scum, these questions are difficult to answer, if these he's scum he could expose information if he answers them. If he's town, there's nothing to lose when answering them. So as a conclusion, the only reason to ignore these questions is because you feel uncomfortable answering them or at most are lazy town. Being lazy and not reading/researching meanwhile is what he's done all game. He posts a lot of stuff, but these aren't researched things. These are impulsive ideas that most of the time don't get us anywhere. He posted so many plain wrong things, misconceptions and similair things that are just not acceptable as town. Then please show me where he made a serious case where he pushed someone because of a good amount of arguments and proof. He hasn't. None of his cases are reliable. He is very active in the thread but tell me where he's been useful. You say he isn't, but with what reasoning? You say you want examples of where he's pocketing people. Well, look at yourself. On the basis of what do you read him town? You never explained this is great detail, but him posting a lot and seeming active and talking about scenarios where he "must be townie" made you think so. Again I ask you: for what reasoning? There are a lot of reasons to believe he is scum and they line up well. He seems to have a strategy how to look town and follows that through. Looking from a perspective where he is mafia, what's his only aim at this point? Look townie. He tries a LOT to look townie. Looking from a perspective where he is townie, what's his aim at this point? Collect information and call out scum for good evidence. He has collected information, but has he called out scum with good evidence? I don't see it. Still voting him and since noone is posting cases it looks like I'm going to stick with it. Saying "I think this person is mafia, please vote for him" with a couple of "proofs" that aren't more than wild guesses "the person is mafia, because [insert WIFOM argument here]" isn't making a case. A last argument I want to make is how many of his arguments he constantly pulls back. "Medic should claim" "i guess he shouldn't". "This person is scummy" someone posts something different "i guess he isn't". Also, a lot of his lynch reasoning is who is possible to be lynched today, especially already very early in the day. Mafia likes voting on the easy targets, he loves it. Also talking shit (and I'm not exaggerating) about people because they made a post about him and pleading that people should ignore it? The people can think for themselves, they can decide if it's bad or worthy, if he thinks it's not dangerous for him why does he care? So many things he posts are not only non-townie but very likely to have scum motivation behind them. Also, look like he points out how serejai "pocketed" me, even though in his world she's town? Logic please? I never even said she's town? Also why me over everyone else? She didn't agree more to my posts about you than a couple of others. You're trying to make connections that don't exist. If I believe anyone to be town here it's probably Breshke. | ||
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You disprove yourself being pocketed how? By thinking he's townie (which is you getting pocketed) and saying he didn't try to convince you not to lynch sentinel? Have you read the day posts when sent got lynched? Saying anything against a lynch this prominent, especially since it was so likely to go through, would have been his death sentence today! Like he couldn't have done anything more stupid than that wild scenario. Also this is the essence of what WIFOM means. Like what's this post. | ||
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He makes you believe he is townie, so that you defend him when shit hits the fan and that you disregard his scummy posts. That's exactly what's happening | ||
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When participating in this game he recently doesn't seem scummy to me. He also yes, isn't the most useful recently but that's not my only point on sicklucker and since I'm sure about my case, why would I go for something I deem weaker? | ||
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On November 14 2014 03:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Again this doesn't make anyone mafia. I do that a lot. Like REALLY A LOT... as town. If you make it that doesn't make it townie play. Also, WIFOM. You can't be serious? I JUST re-asked the question,. I even UNDERLINED the part!!! There was one request you did not even a day ago. Calm down. Could you re-ask the questions? I do not see myself lynching him but still. There is not much to talk about apparently so let's make him answer them if they exist. I'm not reasking all the like 30 questions that were directed and ignored by him to ask them again. There's no point if he doesn't feel like answering questions by certain people he won't change that judging on his play so far and him calling me shit literally a couple of pages ago. Not really. I do ignore a lot that's been asked from me as town because it doesn't help me/anyone find mafia and wastes my time (especially if i think the questions are stupid). So as i said, can you re-ask the questions so i can also evaluate if they are good or not, worth answering in other words. Questions weren't stupid. If you could just look at the pages I proposed yesterday and the following 10 you can see them. Not necessarily a scum trait, in fact being impulsive is way more likely to be a town trait. I disagree with the last sentence. For example he was one of the first people to actually do something about "Sentinel is mafia". This is about the most important thing that has happened in this game for the town. Why is being impulsive a town trait? WIFOM and can easily be planned. Like why wouldn't scum do that to appear townie. EZSCUMGAMEEZLYFE. Also, yeah making a push on someone who has been pushed before (he just picked up ideas of other people - look at the times he posted it and what happened before that) isn't that great of a deal. Considering he's been changing who he thinks is scum like his underwear and basically considers most people scum this isn't a thing. Please show me where anyone (except you) has made a case that's "decent" by your standards? People have earlier in the game. Noone has recently, which is why I say that this town atmosphere is terrible. In other games this is a thing that happens, not here. He was one of the main people pushing Sentinel. One could argue that's more "good for town" than you have done... In fact i am just arguing that. WIFOM and pushing a dead horse isn't incredible play. Like look at how kush and sent played, they gave up instantly. I JUST GAVE THE REASONING!!! DID YOU EVEN READ MY POST?!?!?!? Not in the least sufficient for me. I chronologically went through it as you can see, so obviously I read it, no need to go ham. No there aren't. They are and why aren't they? All of this has been discussed in this same post before so i won't answer it multiple times. So you don't wanna talk about how he hasn't done really townie things and how he tries confirming himself 24/7. Hm, I guess that falls under the category "disregard the scummy deeds". You have called both flipped scum "possibly town" for WIFOM arguments and you are really arguing this? oh my gosh.  Obviously everyone is possible town at any point. No reason to post this. This is more likely to come from a townie. Scum like to stick with their opinions. True fact. No they don't. Scum like to switch around so they don't get blamed. also: WIFOM Yet he has voted for mafia on D2 and D3. Your "hard targets" were better? See? Like what the fuck is this argument? I don't even..... WIFOM. He always talks about which lynches can go through and since both his other scum gave up like 5 minutes into the game, he probably thought it's better to not rely on them and confirm himself town. Can you quote the post where he talks shit because i do not know what you are talking about. look at his filter and search "elvis" ...and you still do not elaborate on this further... again, which posts? and why? I did elaborate this further, but if you don't look at any of the examples I post, I can't help you. In case i am not mistaken that happened when Serejai claimed mafia, no? So that's only logical. she "gave up" and there was no end-of-game post yet and he read her town like for a long time. I'm mostly talking about him saying she pocketed me when there I wasn't ever agreeing to things she posted/protected her/ said she's even more than null. Good job for making the easiest read ever on Breshke. Except that if you do not think i am town you are mafia or delusional. You don't have to be town. There are scenarios where you're not, so you're not confirmed until you're dead since we don't have any more blues. I like how you never even comment on the "medic should claim". Like you just disregard all his scummy things. You sir, got pocketed. | ||
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There's only 1 mafia left and I'm pretty sure I caught one so what's the point? | ||
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I'm getting called scum for making logic. Cool stuff. | ||
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Worst shit ever. | ||
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[QUOTE]On November 14 2014 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: [QUOTE]On November 10 2014 08:07 Elvis! wrote: So there is a couple of cases where I don't agree: Since they don't want a confirmed townie, they blocked someone else the second night, thus his claim is wrong. They blocked themselves 2 times which you already pointed out. Since a lot of people (me included) haven't been particularily clever this game, someone might not out themselves being blocked in fear of getting lynched. As Serejai posted they could have not shot for whatever reason. So medic could have been blocked, and medic doesn't wanna out before lategame because he's gonna get killed if he does. This is the same reason why I think bats outing of being medic is either really stupid or wrong (could still be town or mafia). Like if he's mafia, the real medic wouldn't cc, since claiming medic is retarded before endgame. I'm not saying this is a lot of propability. But it's not 100% and there could be mafia strategy behind it.[/QUOTE] Elvis suggests the following: Argument: MAfia blocked someone else on N2 and they are "scared to claim because they could get lynched". Answer: Who cares, if there is a counter-claim town wins 100% by lynching both of the claims. Argument: Bats is not the necessarily the real medic. He could be mafia (or town) fakeclaiming. Answer: Who cares, if there is a counter-claim town wins 100% by lynching both of the claims (so bats cannot be mafia). Argument: Mafia could have not shot. Answer: Impossible because mafia must shoot every night. Argument: Medic doesn't wanna out because blablabla... Answer: See the second point. reasoning (blabla) is irrelevant. There is literally no intention behind this post other than trying to reduce the amount of confirmed people (which would be bats, me and to some extent Serejai). Townies do not dothat. Mafia does. Now let's kill Elvis![/QUOTE] Well, if bats didn't claim he wouldn't have died and we'd still have a doctor. If we weren't lucky and 2 of the mafia gave up so early this would maybe have lost us the game. mafia can roleblock themselves so they don't have to shoot. There still are scenarios where you're not confirmed, so can you stop being so bitchy about it? You're not confirmed until you're dead dude. Sorry to bust your bubble of confirmed-ness. Mafia can block themselves and some people (yes they do) sometimes claim stuff as town. | ||
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On November 14 2014 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: In real world i believe Sentinel would have never been lynched on D3 in case i was mafia. That's actually a fact because i do not buss. WIFOOOOOOOOM. | ||
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On November 14 2014 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: no you can't. we can discuss this tomorrow but i am really really sure Elvis is mafia. Gief scummy posts please. | ||
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On November 14 2014 05:06 Serejai wrote: Elvis you can just roll over and die now. We won't think less of you. WIFOM | ||
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It's cool how you're like "you can't lynch someone for playing bad" and then wanna lynch me for no scum reasons and only things you think are dumb. Like we had a person fake-counter-claim cop and rescind 3 minutes before deadline. Shit is possible apparently. Like even if all of town is confirmed I wouldn't believe people for sure since people make misconceptions. | ||
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