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On November 03 2014 09:56 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 09:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Bats you know he has about 4 posts and 2 of them are pregame nonsense Compared to ff who you have a town read on for two posts both of which i wouldn't consider to be alignment indicative. Im not trying to be that serious but my last 2 games i seem to just sheep all of day one and i want to change that.
the difference between your posting and ff posting is black and white to me. Ff had good quality posts especially when he questioned Kush, that was really towny to me. Your posting is like silly little comments which look scummy to me
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On November 03 2014 09:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 09:57 batsnacks wrote:On November 03 2014 09:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 03 2014 09:25 batsnacks wrote:
I like Breshke a lot. Easily top town in these first few pages. He's serious and making sense. I don't see how asking two questions is indicative of a lot at this point. Out of the four on your "serious and not making sense" pile, how many of those names would you be willing to call scum right now? Just you actually. Because I wasn't aware of BH being "king of RNG"?
No this is why:
On October 25 2014 05:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Game setup information:
This is a mafia game for 13 players. 3 players will be randomly selected as mafia.
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On November 03 2014 09:56 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 09:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Bats you know he has about 4 posts and 2 of them are pregame nonsense Compared to ff who you have a town read on for two posts both of which i wouldn't consider to be alignment indicative. Im not trying to be that serious but my last 2 games i seem to just sheep all of day one and i want to change that.
There's nothing wrong with sheeping as long as you're sheeping the right people. Of course you should try to solve the game, but usually there are some people who just have a better idea of who is mafia.
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On November 03 2014 09:59 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 09:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Yeh i disagree he is " clearly top town " you said he is making sense when all he has "seriously" done is ask me a stupid question.
just makes you look bad Why don't you tell me why it makes me look bad and I might change my assessment. As is you're just discrediting me on zero basis.
you called breshke the top town for making the most sense and being serious.
neither of those reasons are true.
if i don't believe your read you look bad to me
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Batsnacks your tone seems really aggressive to me, is this intended? I'd like you to elaborate on what "serious but doesn't make sense" means, if you will. Especially if kush is lesser and sentinel was an afterthought to that list, I fail to see what is so hard to understand about anyone's posts.
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On November 03 2014 10:01 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 09:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 03 2014 09:57 batsnacks wrote:On November 03 2014 09:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 03 2014 09:25 batsnacks wrote:
I like Breshke a lot. Easily top town in these first few pages. He's serious and making sense. I don't see how asking two questions is indicative of a lot at this point. Out of the four on your "serious and not making sense" pile, how many of those names would you be willing to call scum right now? Just you actually. Because I wasn't aware of BH being "king of RNG"? No this is why: Show nested quote +On October 25 2014 05:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Game setup information:
This is a mafia game for 13 players. 3 players will be randomly selected as mafia.
I say "random" too. Doesn't stop me from adjusting the numbers to make sure one side has too much power.
From my perspective it looked like 3 inexperienced scum would be too town-favored and vice versa. That and my own hosting experience are all I used to make a guess.
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On November 03 2014 10:00 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 09:56 Breshke wrote:On November 03 2014 09:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Bats you know he has about 4 posts and 2 of them are pregame nonsense Compared to ff who you have a town read on for two posts both of which i wouldn't consider to be alignment indicative. Im not trying to be that serious but my last 2 games i seem to just sheep all of day one and i want to change that. the difference between your posting and ff posting is black and white to me. Ff had good quality posts especially when he questioned Kush, that was really towny to me. Your posting is like silly little comments which look scummy to me
I agree with this assessment... I've also been sketched out by batsnacks for a while. Among other things, he indicated that he was suspicious of FF ("FOS FF for explaining the obvious") for making what I consider an entirely reasonable post.
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On November 03 2014 09:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 09:56 Breshke wrote:On November 03 2014 09:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Bats you know he has about 4 posts and 2 of them are pregame nonsense Compared to ff who you have a town read on for two posts both of which i wouldn't consider to be alignment indicative. Im not trying to be that serious but my last 2 games i seem to just sheep all of day one and i want to change that. Who do you see as at least somewhat town/scum right now and why?
I have Gack as leaning town for this post here.
On November 03 2014 08:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Now, let's talk Kush. What's your leaning? Devious scummer or incompetent townie?
The answer incompetent mafia could also be acceptable.
He seems to be trying to lead the conversation away from the initial joking/trolling phase into serious discussion which i see as townie.
Also i have you has also lean town because i don't think mafia makes that post about having 1 from the newbie pile and two from the veteran pile. I don't think mafia would make this post as you would know your team setup and it would be weird for you to come up with that as mafia. This is a weak read.
Don't have much else at the moment.
Also im confused why everyone is jumping on batsnacks but not kelsier? Do people agree with kelsiers read on ff? How is explaining game mechanics hunting scum? How is pushing kush for not getting the setup right hunting scum when if he is mafia he is given the setup?
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On November 03 2014 10:03 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 09:59 batsnacks wrote:On November 03 2014 09:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Yeh i disagree he is " clearly top town " you said he is making sense when all he has "seriously" done is ask me a stupid question.
just makes you look bad Why don't you tell me why it makes me look bad and I might change my assessment. As is you're just discrediting me on zero basis. you called breshke the top town for making the most sense and being serious. neither of those reasons are true. if i don't believe your read you look bad to me
You've added nothing so I have nothing new to say.
On November 03 2014 10:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Batsnacks your tone seems really aggressive to me, is this intended? I'd like you to elaborate on what "serious but doesn't make sense" means, if you will. Especially if kush is lesser and sentinel was an afterthought to that list, I fail to see what is so hard to understand about anyone's posts.
Serious but doesn't make sense means serious but doesn't make sense. For example this:
On November 03 2014 07:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 07:37 kushm4sta wrote:On November 03 2014 07:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm going to guess we have 1 scum from the first seven, one from the last six, and one somewhere in there. Probably also in the latter six since 10-3 is a town-favored setup. say that again but make sense this time We have seven new players and six not new players, right? So my prediction is that this game is slightly balanced because three new scum would be easy to point out without some good coaching, and three vet scum would make the game too hard without, again, coaching. So one new scum, one vet scum, and another vet scum to tip the scales slightly scumward because this setup favors town. It takes four mislynches for scum to win but only three successful lynches for town to win.
This has a serious tone, but doesn't make logical sense because all setups are randomly generated. Sentinel has played mafia on this site before, so it doesn't make sense that he believes what he wrote. If I hope you understand now.
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On November 03 2014 10:09 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 09:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 03 2014 09:56 Breshke wrote:On November 03 2014 09:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Bats you know he has about 4 posts and 2 of them are pregame nonsense Compared to ff who you have a town read on for two posts both of which i wouldn't consider to be alignment indicative. Im not trying to be that serious but my last 2 games i seem to just sheep all of day one and i want to change that. Who do you see as at least somewhat town/scum right now and why? I have Gack as leaning town for this post here. Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 08:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Now, let's talk Kush. What's your leaning? Devious scummer or incompetent townie?
The answer incompetent mafia could also be acceptable. He seems to be trying to lead the conversation away from the initial joking/trolling phase into serious discussion which i see as townie. Also i have you has also lean town because i don't think mafia makes that post about having 1 from the newbie pile and two from the veteran pile. I don't think mafia would make this post as you would know your team setup and it would be weird for you to come up with that as mafia. This is a weak read. Don't have much else at the moment. Also im confused why everyone is jumping on batsnacks but not kelsier? Do people agree with kelsiers read on ff? How is explaining game mechanics hunting scum? How is pushing kush for not getting the setup right hunting scum when if he is mafia he is given the setup?
point is if ff was mafia he could just say "look kysh id trying to get roles out omfg" instead he went back to the op, looked at the setups and was like "a logical inconsistency, mafia make logical inconsistincies, kush your story doesn't make sense, explain" to me that is incredibly town.
also his question to hs was also excellent,
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On November 03 2014 10:16 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 10:09 Breshke wrote:On November 03 2014 09:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 03 2014 09:56 Breshke wrote:On November 03 2014 09:47 KelsierSC wrote:
Bats you know he has about 4 posts and 2 of them are pregame nonsense Compared to ff who you have a town read on for two posts both of which i wouldn't consider to be alignment indicative. Im not trying to be that serious but my last 2 games i seem to just sheep all of day one and i want to change that. Who do you see as at least somewhat town/scum right now and why? I have Gack as leaning town for this post here. On November 03 2014 08:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Now, let's talk Kush. What's your leaning? Devious scummer or incompetent townie?
The answer incompetent mafia could also be acceptable. He seems to be trying to lead the conversation away from the initial joking/trolling phase into serious discussion which i see as townie. Also i have you has also lean town because i don't think mafia makes that post about having 1 from the newbie pile and two from the veteran pile. I don't think mafia would make this post as you would know your team setup and it would be weird for you to come up with that as mafia. This is a weak read. Don't have much else at the moment. Also im confused why everyone is jumping on batsnacks but not kelsier? Do people agree with kelsiers read on ff? How is explaining game mechanics hunting scum? How is pushing kush for not getting the setup right hunting scum when if he is mafia he is given the setup? point is if ff was mafia he could just say "look kysh id trying to get roles out omfg" instead he went back to the op, looked at the setups and was like "a logical inconsistency, mafia make logical inconsistincies, kush your story doesn't make sense, explain" to me that is incredibly town. also his question to hs was also excellent,
So what do you think of kush then? Do you think he is mafia for his "logical inconsistency". Also when he comes back to the thread and just says he read the OP wrong what then?
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Breshke why would people "jump on me" because i town read ff ?
if you think I'm scum come out and say it but dont try and Just poke things about
"hey why is no one calling this guy scum" is always a scum tell to me
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No i don't actually have a scum read on you at the moment but i don't see why people are jumping on batsnacks for calling me town without much reason when i think you have done the same with ff.
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I dont know about Kush yet.
i have a way of reading him that i cant get at this stage
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I don't think his strategic revelation/retraction matters too much. But i just like the way ff responded to it
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So you want to clear FF because you think he actually read the thread. As opposed to kush who claimed he read the thread and then made false conclusions from what he read?
Does that mean you think kush is mafia or do you just think FF is town because he can read?
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On November 03 2014 10:24 batsnacks wrote:
So you want to clear FF because you think he actually read the thread. As opposed to kush who claimed he read the thread and then made false conclusions from what he read?
Does that mean you think kush is mafia or do you just think FF is town because he can read?
hmm i just explained all of this.
ff had to actually go back to the op and do some thinking about set ups and then come back and ask Kush. He also made a good post to sentinel about rng. Furthermore since the read his question to you about sentinal being an afterthought about not making sense...even though he is your main example of not making sense is an excellent one.
i dont think kusha play was alignment indicative as i said earlier
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Kelsier here is where im confused about your logic. If you are unsure about kushes alignment why isn't it possible that ff is mafia trying to make kush look bad for a mistake he has made as town. Town makes mistakes, they are more likely to do so they don't have perfect information. This is why i don't think ff's question makes him townbecause he could easily be mafia trying to make a town kush look bad.
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On November 03 2014 10:14 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 10:03 KelsierSC wrote:On November 03 2014 09:59 batsnacks wrote:On November 03 2014 09:57 KelsierSC wrote:
Yeh i disagree he is " clearly top town " you said he is making sense when all he has "seriously" done is ask me a stupid question.
just makes you look bad Why don't you tell me why it makes me look bad and I might change my assessment. As is you're just discrediting me on zero basis. you called breshke the top town for making the most sense and being serious. neither of those reasons are true. if i don't believe your read you look bad to me You've added nothing so I have nothing new to say. Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 10:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Batsnacks your tone seems really aggressive to me, is this intended? I'd like you to elaborate on what "serious but doesn't make sense" means, if you will. Especially if kush is lesser and sentinel was an afterthought to that list, I fail to see what is so hard to understand about anyone's posts. Serious but doesn't make sense means serious but doesn't make sense. For example this: Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 07:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On November 03 2014 07:37 kushm4sta wrote:On November 03 2014 07:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm going to guess we have 1 scum from the first seven, one from the last six, and one somewhere in there. Probably also in the latter six since 10-3 is a town-favored setup. say that again but make sense this time We have seven new players and six not new players, right? So my prediction is that this game is slightly balanced because three new scum would be easy to point out without some good coaching, and three vet scum would make the game too hard without, again, coaching. So one new scum, one vet scum, and another vet scum to tip the scales slightly scumward because this setup favors town. It takes four mislynches for scum to win but only three successful lynches for town to win. This has a serious tone, but doesn't make logical sense because all setups are randomly generated. Sentinel has played mafia on this site before, so it doesn't make sense that he believes what he wrote. If I hope you understand now.
I understand what the words you said mean. What I don't understand is how you came up with your list of people who don't make sense. Your list had kush at a lesser extent and sentinel was an afterthought. I guess to ask a more straightforward question:
What have kelsier and I said that doesn't make sense?
Followup question: Why did you not ask for clarification on the posts that don't make sense? You aren't even scumreading most of us but don't bother to clear up nonsensical posts?
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Yeh breshke so in my opinion the way ff went about things it wasn't like he tried to make Kush look bad. It was more of a "i want to understand / explain your reasoning" it felt very town.
if he wanted to make Kush look bad he could have been a lot stronger something like "Kush wants roles to out!"
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