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is that a thing? fuck it. /confirm | ||
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On October 31 2014 11:00 jaybrundage wrote: I HATE DAY ONE!!!!!! Look at the caps lock! obvi maf | ||
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On October 31 2014 11:17 Damdred wrote: Rit didn't post a flag he's scum Man, dis guy all up on my meta. | ||
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On October 31 2014 11:19 Damdred wrote: I'm to pro right now rit Easily above me by a mile. | ||
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On October 31 2014 11:26 Damdred wrote: Don't sell yourself short rit. Gb where you run to Thanks bbdoll | ||
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On October 31 2014 12:01 jrkirby wrote: So I'm scum for playing the game seriously instead of posting videos of jarraxxus and pictures of ham? Your logic is impeccable here. So does posting a video of jaraxxus and ham make the two of us mafia? I think you missed the point. He is saying scum tend to enter the thread awkwardly, you entered the thread awkwardly; thus you're scum. I mean, it's not an uncommon read on TL since I started playing and it is also decently accurate for D1. Why does a gut check initial read bother you so much to make you defensive like this? But I mean, if you wanna keep goin, here: ![]() | ||
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On October 31 2014 12:20 Damdred wrote: Why does it have to be a misread? Does scum not do what he did? Why are you so certain of a misread? Oh snap! | ||
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On October 31 2014 12:55 Damdred wrote: Always GB. Lian, what do you think about jrkirby and circumstance defending one another masons, scum buddies, twins attached at the hip, or maf defending townizzles. would be a good place to start this thought experiment. then maybe you could move toward egyptian death gods and reincarnation of a cow territory. | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote: thats nothing. Huge leap there. Try harder. here's the thread so far: jokes jokes jokes jokes jrkirby: I AM SRS ppl: y so srs? jokes jokes jrkirby: I AM DEFENSIVE ppl: y so defensive? jokes jokes damdred: yo, dat guy just used misread; you kno dat alignment doe? jrkirby and circumstance start cuddling think that's about it. | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:30 jrkirby wrote: No, I have a null read on you. I think you getting analysed would give more information about other players than anyone else getting analysed. so do you know what analyzing does? and how do you know it will be beneficial? cuz i sure as shit dunno what it means. | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:36 jrkirby wrote: Due to the word, analyse, it should give some clue as to what character they are from heartchstone, which should give a clue to their alignment. If you're so certain that is what it does, then why wouldn't you volunteer yourself so that you are confirmed town for everyone? You do realize the it's kel'thuzad's cat, and in warcraft mythos kel'thuzad is an evil lich...so ummmmmm... | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:45 Circumstance wrote: But the post specifically stated a goal of eliminating the Horde, which someone (don't remember who) suggested would be the Mafia. So what I'm wondering is, was Mr. Bigglesworth a sort of game event, or is there a Kel'Thuzad role? sorry if i am not immediately trusting of one of the largest villians in warcraft mythos' cat right away. regardless of the stated intent. | ||
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On October 31 2014 13:46 jrkirby wrote: When you face kel'thuzad in HS, the cat is on your side. And I imagine it won't only give information about the alignment, and I bet that the information will be quite a bit of a riddle. I wouldn't be terribly opposed to people analysing me. But I don't think that it would be useful. did not know this, haven't played that much HS | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:03 jaybrundage wrote: You didn't answer my question You stated if they didnt wanna joke around why would they post. I would say cause people feel obligated to post on day 1 as there is nothing else to do. As for downgrading himself. I know i am not the next prodigy mafia player, palmar incarnate. I am a just an average mafia player that enjoys the game. Who cares if someone knows they aren't great. I think people say that ts a scum tell but i never feel like scum actually use it. You are on about some really arbitrary, nitpicking stuff imo. I am not a fan. There's a difference between knowing you're not great; and first posts advertising how not great you are. | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:08 Holyflare wrote: i think we should just save the analyse till the end of the day and use it on the most unreadable player i think we should use it on seuss of risk.nuke as of now. if it's good, then we get info on non-posters thus far. if it's bad, then it goes on someone who hasn't posted. | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:13 jaybrundage wrote: I'm trying to get people to post about there reasoning and to post more so i can get a better read on them. The faster there is substance in the thread. The faster real analyzing can happen. By me "nitpicking" hopefully you can also get a better read on me as well as GB. Who is my nit...pickeded XD How is hammering on a point that he clearly won't back down on and you disagree with getting more info into the thread? People already challenged him on it and he didn't budge. You just seem to be trying to find an arbitrary hole to throw scum at. I am not very fond of you atm. | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:20 Misder wrote: What kind of target do you think would be better for the cat? And given what we know, if we don't use it in the next ~22 hours, we would have wasted one cycle of the cat. There are no charges, the cat says it does the analysis once it hits majority, and it refreshes every 23 hours. I don't know if it was just you not being here, but seems like you were having a difficult time getting into the thread; then this cat appears. Now you're all cat all the time. Just a very awkward entrance. | ||
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On October 31 2014 14:58 Seuss wrote: Oh hey. ##Analyze: GlowingBear lolwut? | ||
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On October 31 2014 15:11 Misder wrote: Again, he posted only a few filler posts at the time of my post, and choosing one person instead of an overarching group of people is best when getting things done (choosing a target to analyze). As I said, I don't know. Everyone sees how Tolkien is acting. Circumstance? At this point, I don't have a strong enough tell to write a post on anyone yet. Because everything that needed to be said was said at the time of reading/posting. I like my vote on Tolkien better right now anyways, if anything. Too tired to think, gn guys. Please get a consensus for who to vote for in like 8 hours (don't spread votes out too much since we need majority vote). ##Analyze: Circumstance Wat is this? "don't spread your votes out we need consesus" -> places vote on random dude that there's been 0 discussion about analyzing and gives no real reason.......am so confused by this it isn't even funny. | ||
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i read his filter cuz i don't really remember anything about him in the game and i was surprised to find 2 pages. all of it seems to be pretty soft-ball questions with 0 follow-up and very vague general and ambiguous statements. outside of a half of a push on GB he doesn't seem to be interested in pushing a scum read at this point. | ||
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On November 01 2014 06:26 liancourt wrote: Most content worthy post of obi i could find. i agree with this post cos i think misder is scumny why is misder scummy? | ||
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On November 01 2014 07:16 liancourt wrote: Why so srs guy. Serious but surprisingly no content except this. Finds a townie post of LT but votes him anyway...cos the rest were jokes hmm. Maybe we think differently i see ppl with humor in good light although LT isnt really funny. I still cant understand him so scummy for now On October 31 2014 13:12 liancourt wrote: Kirby doesnt look awkward to me any hes answering evrrything and if he wants to play serious ok let him play serious. If he doesnt play serious and posts jibberish later then I ll have to consider him scum. circum seems logical using lofty words. I get the feeling he has no emotion like havung a poker face for some reason. I look forward to seeing his logical posts later on. If he doesnt make sense scum. What happened to this read? I mean, I don't necessarily disagree with your conclusions; but earlier you said he doesn't look awkward and is answering everything seriously. Now you criticize him for being serious and say he has no content. But he was answering everything, how does that make sense? Also, you were posting at the same time when he made that post and didn't respond to it in any way; yet waited until now to bring it up. Why would you do that if you find it so odd? | ||
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JayB, that case on HF is bad.....as was your list of quote case earlier.... Also, we should probably get some consensus on the analysis soon. I was thinking about it a bit: 1) the cat sounds like foolishness. 2) still don't know if the cat does what it says 3) does the cat just make a case on someone based on the content in the thread or does it get additional information? I think in 1 of our 2 cycles we might want to potentially use it on a complete lurker to see if the cat get's additional information outside of posts. Because if it doesn't....it doesn't exactly seem extremely useful outside of just being another person with an unknown objective. | ||
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On November 01 2014 08:30 jaybrundage wrote: I thought lying and shit flinging are chiefly mafia traits. GB if you have a town read on HF can you tell me why? He did some poke at misder but misder replied and that was it. Is there anything else that would make you think HF is town? Other than the fact that HF basically folds over and dies easily as mafia? He is active, he is pressing people for activity, his reads are developing and not stagnant, he is shoving people away from policy discussion, and he is slightly agitated. All town HF stuff from my pov. He is town. | ||
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On November 01 2014 08:36 GlowingBear wrote: I think lian, for example, posted a lot so you can get a first impression, but you have none. Lian typed a lot and didn't say very much early on, which bugged me. He reads me town tho, so he has that going for him. Then he suddenly just started reading people without being asked and giving reasons behind them; which was town. Then he flipped one of his reads without a real explanation and kinda contrary to what he had stated earlier. I asked about it, waiting for a response. Not looking as bueno as it was for him. Also, you need to get out of the tunnel and look at other people in the game. | ||
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On November 01 2014 08:39 risk.nuke wrote: Woah! What do you base those accusations on? On a scale of 1 to 28, how many pages of this thread have you read? | ||
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current leader is jayb i believe. i think he is an alright enough target as of now. | ||
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On November 01 2014 10:05 jrkirby wrote: This is why I'm following the RNG. Sure it might disagree with my reads, but what real use are day 1 reads anyway? They've been shown historically to almost never lynch scum. what statistics are you using for this? can we lynch this guy? like srsly. he doesn't give reads, he talked incessantly about the cat, does more nothing, now he wants rng because d1 reads suck? you haven't even tried to develop strong reads or push for information in any way. you're just looking for easy shit to talk about to appear active and involved, and when it doesn't work out you have an excuse. welcome to my scum list. | ||
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what strikes me as odd is that wasn't it circ who came in to hard defend jrkirby early on when he was being pressured? then once again jrkirby starts to take interest in a gb lynch and now circ is suddenly around and interested? there's something funky goin on between these two. | ||
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On November 01 2014 10:47 Circumstance wrote: Do you want me to explain my schedule to you? I will if you want. Could be mere coincidence, I am mostly just making a note in the thread to myself and others about the topic; I really have no idea where your head is at....neither with kirby as he doesn't really talk about reads either. But at least you don't have the breadth of posts with negligence like he has. | ||
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On November 01 2014 13:29 jaybrundage wrote: You must of missed this. Using this on a lurker (if you do plan to use it) would be a waste. Why do you trust and believe the cat before it has even done anything? Cuz no one has ever lied in a mafia game right? And how is it a waste? How do you know the cat doesn't have more information? If you use it on a lurker with nearly no content and the cat comes back with something more; it potentially has more info, if it says idk, then it is basically useless since it just distributes an opinion from a source who's motive we don't know. I don't see how that is a useless proposition in the slightest. The fact that you have 0 skepticism over this shit doesn't reflect a townie mindset. | ||
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On November 01 2014 14:36 jaybrundage wrote: Rofl How about you go read what my opinion about the cat is. Also Liancourt made his decision to pick a lurker from what i saw as a false assumption that the cat had knowledge independent of the thread based on him not reading well or misinterpreting what the cat said. So I pointed out his mistake. Again read what my actually opinion is about the cat your whole tirade is irrelevant. i don't think your previously stated opinion matters in this case. you just quoted the cat and bolded it like it was fact to refute someone's reasoning. which to me, says you believe it. and if your previous opinion was any different, that just makes it worse. but i mean, we will see this cat analysis since apparently it's going on you w/e the thing posts. | ||
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On November 02 2014 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote: No that's not what I'm saying at all - I don't think what "cards" people are points to alignment at all. I think his USE of the power feels scummy as hell. i dunno, maybe it's the former host in me, maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me, maybe somethin else; it's just hard for me to imagine that there is 0 unifying themes between mafia members. | ||
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On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me. Bye. ![]() | ||
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On November 02 2014 06:49 jrkirby wrote: Where the hell are BH and Misder? The longer they are gone, the scummier I feel they are. To me, damdred reads like bad town, cracking under pressure. You shouldn't care that he claims blue though, because it looks like all the reds are going to have random powers too. But overall, it doesn't read like scum, more like clueless town to me. + Show Spoiler [Crazy Theory, not important] + Although I did for a second entertain a crazy theory - GlowingBear and Damdred are scumbuddies. GB pushes the Damd lynch day one, if it flips mafia he gets an easy rest of game. He's been on Damd's case since the beginning of the game literally. why is risk.nuke not in that list anymore? has your scum read on him evaporated? if so, why? | ||
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On November 02 2014 07:06 jrkirby wrote: No, I just forgot to mention him. I'd jump on risk in a second if I thought we could get majority. He's done almost absolutely nothing for town. i just glanced through your filter. it seems you have or had scum reads on: LT, slam, GB, BH, misder and risk....that's 6 mafia reads....a couple i don't really feel are explained. as for your town reads...you have 1 on circumstance for being "level-headed" early on and no real mention of anything since... so my question here is, do you care who gets lynched or do you just care about lynching someone and being in the majority like you just stated? | ||
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On November 02 2014 07:42 GlowingBear wrote: That makes him town, I suppose. Scum can't have similar reads to townies, right? what are you trying to say here? the guy has similar reads to HF if not the same, he claimed a blue role, used his role, and no1 has cc'd....i mean from HF's perspective seems like a very reasonable reason to town read someone on d1. | ||
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On November 02 2014 07:58 GlowingBear wrote: GOD I WAS PASSIVE THIS GAME??? WHEN I WAS??? GOD THIS IS GETTING ME PISSED. going for rq the thread 2x in 24 hrs? | ||
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On November 02 2014 09:12 jrkirby wrote: Also misder's "lets consolidate out analyse votes" -> analyse cincumstance out of the blue is pretty weird too. And BH needs to take a stats course. like....what is your case on misder? i tried to look thru your filter and didn't find anything really organized. and this sentiment is literally a direct sheep of something i said earlier. | ||
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On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote: If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut. His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post. so you don't think it was weird that he was defending damdred and calling him innocent before he even claimed? then why do you think damdred is town outside of his blue claim? | ||
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On November 02 2014 10:43 liancourt wrote: your role doesn't really indicate where it's good or bad really. What I do know is that you've made things harder for town to lynch anyone today because we need 9 votes on 1 person. I would really appreciate flips so we can move the discussion onto someone else tomorrow. What was your motive for making it a majority vote? are you reading the thread? | ||
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On November 02 2014 10:49 Lord Tolkien wrote: Part One: Somewhat, but town can be erratic perfectly well. Don't see any major issue with his defense of damdred. Part Two: Yes. At the least, I'd rather lynch someone else today. Since the day is now long enough for risk.nuke to post tomorrow, I want to read a good set of posts from him. yeah except the part where you didn't answer WHY outside of his claim damdred is town. | ||
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On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote: Reread your question: I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town. In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here. My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy. I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote: If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut. His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post. Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me. | ||
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On November 02 2014 11:01 Lord Tolkien wrote: Hard to describe. If you go through his filter, he clearly has a thought process, and is asking town-focused questions. He's got appropriate skepticism. I don't really buy this. Thank you for a vague, unsubstantiated, unsupported opinion that took you 3 seconds to make up. Scum pile. | ||
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On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Hold up. Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense? Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi? Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap. As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough. | ||
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On November 02 2014 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I never called him town. I said the reasoning was bad. And it was. I interpret "I don't like a damdred lynch" as "hey this guy is at least leaning town for me". And you think explicitly withholding information and reads is a good thing? | ||
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On November 02 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You are going to lose your mind when you play with someone who doesn't give reads on day 1. I just looked over the HF case and that's bad too. Here's what it boils down to: "Obi doesn't agree with me so he's mafia." It's funny, because I don't even think he's scummy for posting it. He tried to kill me in a different game because I didn't agree with him. It's really annoying to end up dealing with the exact same reasoning and expecting a different outcome. I disagree. I think his case says the following: 1) damdred had done nothing to the point where he deserved anything more than a gut read leaning town. 2) damdred was doing things that were actively anti-town and deserved pressure. 3) OWS comes swooping in and starts calling damdred town before he has really done anything 4) THEN damdred claims and gives reads so his issue is that it seems like you were ready to call him town pre-mature, before he had done anything to warrant it. maybe that's where you say the disagreement is; but frankly I am still waiting to see what he had done prior to claiming to deserve it. and not LT's weak BS. overall i think LT is wayyyyy worse than you. your reasoning is bad reasoning but at least it's reasoning and you stick behind it. LT just grafted onto someone else's point, and when asked for a reason made up some of the weakest shit i have ever read. didn't even feel like he believed what he was typing. would lynch him right now. | ||
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On November 02 2014 12:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Hf said that his points on damdred being scum were infallible and I didn't agree with him based on nothing so I'm scum. Which is wrong because the case on Damdred was provably bad, so it ends up boiling down to "Obi didn't agree with me so he's scum." So thanks for not actually reading that post I guess. HF wasn't even the one accusing Damdred for the majority of it. It was GB, who's not reading now? | ||
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As of right now my top lynch candidate is Lord Tolkein. On October 31 2014 12:03 Lord Tolkien wrote: Alright. Holyflare=Starts with an H Hunter=Starts with an H ergo, Holyflare is a Hunter. And I presume my confirm went through only because Hunters were to be labeled scum so... #Vote Holyflare Here is him joking with his first post. Make a note of how this is on the first page of his filter and the time and date. He proceeds this way for a vast majority of the phase. Making snarky remarks, offering no insight, commenting on nothing relevant, and doing nothing to find scum. Then he posts this: On November 01 2014 16:54 Lord Tolkien wrote: alright, back from long series of cancer inhouses wheeeeeeee~ I'm tired and actually want to sleep, but I SUPPOSE I should help lead town to victory. ...when I'm not about to pass out. First, I really want to analyze JB. But whatever town wants, I guess. I'll consolidate because I'm a conformist and not mafia trying to waste muh votes. Two, Misder, I find it very enlightening to see how people reacted to my blatant trolling. Very enlightening indeed. It's how I garner early reads: looking at the wagons that always form on me D1. :D Plus no one ever lynches me D1, so why should I be concerned. Three, Holyflare, VE, and GlowingBear are probably town. Compare the cancer mafia Glowing to current Glowing. Much more wililng to take a stance and much less passive. Will peg him as town for now. Would also sort of like to say OWS is slightly leaning town, but much less to go on. I've heard people say that Oats is hard to read, but idk, he's leaning town in my reading. Everyone else are scummerdawgs, or I can't read them based on past experience. Id actually have to, like, put in effort and nitpick their filters. Four, as much lulz and hilarity BHs RNG lynch turned out in FFL mini-mafia, I'm not quite ready to take one on yet. At least, not when I've good a semi-decent read on Glowing. Won't vote for what I suspect is a sure mislynch. Also again, lynching (one of?) the most active player is lelelelel Five, Zzzzz, Giving risk.nuke some time to do his IRL shit. But if he dont post D2, we post lynch him then. If we lurker lynch someone, we should totes lynch jrkirby: who are you mafia reads? You made it clear that I'm only your vote because you want me to post stuff and not troll. I'll post moar, but can't promise not trolling on occasion. But in any event, you've given no real stance on possible mafia, instead sheeping onto a silly RNG vote. I'll be awake sometime before ~12PM EDT to carry town to victoryyyyyyy. For now, #Vote Seuss But i'll consolidate when the time cums Part 1: Wants to analyze JB, congratulations you have arrived at the conclusion that nearly half the players in the game had already arrived at much later than them. Part 2: Summary: I troll lelelelelelel, no1 lynches me d1. Answer: We'll see about that shit. Part 3: Finally nearly 36 hrs into the game we have the first portion of content available to us. And what is it? After 35 pages of content it is a bunch of unsubstantiated reads. Now personally, I think the case for GB and HF as town had been made and didn't need re-stating; but what the hell is this VE and OBS read? Airballs and no explanation behind them at all. Especially OWS, what had OWS done up to page 35 that had made him town in any way? It is beyond me. Part 4: Lol BH RNG. Ty for this insight, glad we waited for it. Part 5: Lynch lurkers guys! Cuz this strategy on day 1 always goes over well with me. But outside of that, it is an easy thing to simply default to and say instead of giving legitimate scum reads. So essentially he gave us 2 redundant town reads, 2 unexplained town reads, and told us to lynch lurkers; after 36 hrs of play and 35 pages of content. Shows a lack of investment in the thread and he doesn't even try to push his scum reads toward a lynch, just lays them limp in the thread. On November 01 2014 16:55 Lord Tolkien wrote: Hmm, no, I like that new post. #Unvote Seuss He then immediately unvotes his lurker 1 lurker lynch who had temporarily stopped lurking and proceeds down the path toward the other lurker. Then we get to the part that I simply cannot understand. He attempts to explain his town read on OWS and how he agreed with OWS's town read on Damdred BEFORE Damdred had claimed. At least in OWS's case it is his original thought. It is a very bad thought, but I see no reason why LT is latching onto it. On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote: If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut. His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post. On November 02 2014 10:39 ritoky wrote: so you don't think it was weird that he was defending damdred and calling him innocent before he even claimed? then why do you think damdred is town outside of his blue claim? On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote: Reread your question: I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town. In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here. My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy. On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote: I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me. On November 02 2014 11:01 Lord Tolkien wrote: Hard to describe. If you go through his filter, he clearly has a thought process, and is asking town-focused questions. He's got appropriate skepticism. On November 02 2014 11:03 ritoky wrote: I don't really buy this. Thank you for a vague, unsubstantiated, unsupported opinion that took you 3 seconds to make up. Scum pile. tl;dr: He believes everything in OWS's filter is reasonable including OWS calling Damdred town before Damdred claimed or posted his notes in the thread. I pressure him to see why he believes that is a reasonable thing, and he basically says "gut read". Really 45 pages of content and "gut read". Plus the response is so generic and contrived; it is hard to believe he even believes it. This guy did nothing to help town or be involved in town for 36 hrs, then he gave crap reads and not even a lot of them; did more nothing, then does this unbelievable air-ball stuff surrounding OWS calling Damdred town for inexplicable reasons. He is scum kill with fire. ##Vote: Lord Tolkien | ||
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On November 03 2014 05:08 GlowingBear wrote: Can we consolidate on damdred, then? Not today, am willing to reconsider tomorrow. Claiming blue, verifying power, and going un-cc'd is enough to buy 1 day from me. The context in which he activated it is a little skethcy and the power itself doesn't really lean 1 way or the other to me. So basically I put him in my reconsider tomorrow pile. I also hate everyone who is making these lynch lurker lists....all of them. | ||
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On November 03 2014 05:46 VisceraEyes wrote: Like seriously though, what about giving town an extra lynch is anti-town? I honestly have no idea where this comes from! Well you would be giving it in the context of a day that is majority lynch, not plurality, which you already think is scummy. So you would be doubling someone else's scum. Making you double scum. | ||
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On November 03 2014 05:50 risk.nuke wrote: How is it hilarious. I've already told you that I am following the thread. I didn't really see a point to popping up a couple of times to say I'm to busy to do much today. The abillity was pro town. The way you used it was so not. Then pop up a couple of time to tell me who is scum and 1 or 2 sentences as to why they are scum. | ||
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LT just claimed acolyte of pain....but not his power....how are we supposed to judge you if you don't say your power??????? like title of character is not rly anything without flips.... | ||
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I remember circumstance hard defended jrkirby early on for no reason. It was just really really odd and then he tried to play it off by saying "i didn't town read him, i just said i wasn't ready to call him mafia". Even though he was clearly hard defending. I remember in a previous game I tunneled chromatically all game for doing this VERY early in the game like circ did here and he was mafia. | ||
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On November 03 2014 10:29 liancourt wrote: am i right in believing that u think lt is scummy because he defended obi while obi was defending damdred? apparently you only read the 2nd half of that post. try reading again. he is uninvolved, uninvested, did nothing, when he did something it was utter shite, then he agrees with OWS's read which was crap; he is asked to justify it and basically says "gut read". | ||
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On November 03 2014 11:29 Lord Tolkien wrote: to not claim medic and presumably die N1 if you goal was to not get lynched, why the hell did you sit around provoking more votes onto yourself. like your play makes 0 sense. | ||
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On November 03 2014 07:13 Lord Tolkien wrote: People I currently peg as solid town, HF: can never read him riotsky: i am sheep and HF is muh welsh shepherd (also other reasons that i dont need to go over) VE: double-lynch is always pro town, and my town read on him hasn't changed GB: meeeeeeta read, also he's not playing passive scummerdoge game Slam: his "theory" makes me peg him as donkey town lel On November 01 2014 16:54 Lord Tolkien wrote: Three, Holyflare, VE, and GlowingBear are probably town. Compare the cancer mafia Glowing to current Glowing. Much more wililng to take a stance and much less passive. Will peg him as town for now. Would also sort of like to say OWS is slightly leaning town, but much less to go on. I've heard people say that Oats is hard to read, but idk, he's leaning town in my reading. These are the town reads that LT gave in the thread, to condense them into list form it is: - ritoky - HF - VE - GB - Slam - OWS - Oats I find it unlikely that LT went 100% bus mode and didn't town read a SINGLE of his partners, so there is likely at least 1 mafia in that list. I would like people to look at the list and pick out the most likely mafia from that list and why. Those people voted on: - ritoky - LT - HF - LT - VE - LT - GB - Circ - Slam - LT - OWS - LT (ended up on Lian) - Oats - LT (ended up on damdred) | ||
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On November 03 2014 13:33 Alakaslam wrote: My theory is still right you know ritoky which theory you have a lot of them, including HIJOLE theory | ||
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On November 03 2014 14:14 Alakaslam wrote: My theory on you, risk, LT, and some other dude I forgot you should read my filter if you think there's any possibility i am with LT and realize it was my giant case that started the wagon. but then again i did mega-bus koshi into the ground in the only mafia game i have played on these forums...sooo...i guess meta-defending myself is pointless. i just don't see the point about making a deal about risk. guy says he is moving, will deliver day 2. if he does, consider what he says; if he doesn't lynch him by default. it's not that complicated of a process and those advocating it over the LT lynch might want to be looked into. | ||
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On November 03 2014 14:29 Alakaslam wrote: Why did you defend risk nuke then firstly, when did i defend risk? the only time i can really remember is when VE made a crappy accusation against him that was crappy. and that was moreso to get GB and VE to stop bickering cuz at the time I felt they were both town. second, i had irl stuff going on the last game i played so i have some sympathy for a guy who openly claimed irl stuff. thirdly, as i said before: he promises to deliver d2, if he does then i will evaluate what he says then. if he doesn't i will lynch his ass by default. seems pretty simple to me. fourth, i just made the case that pushed the lynch on mafia, what did you do? | ||
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On November 03 2014 13:30 ritoky wrote: These are the town reads that LT gave in the thread, to condense them into list form it is: - ritoky - HF - VE - GB - Slam - OWS - Oats I find it unlikely that LT went 100% bus mode and didn't town read a SINGLE of his partners, so there is likely at least 1 mafia in that list. I would like people to look at the list and pick out the most likely mafia from that list and why. | ||
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On November 03 2014 16:10 jaybrundage wrote: ? No idea what your talking about here. he is suggesting a vigi shoot you or VE. so either he believes you were bussing LT since about 8 hrs into the game, or i have no idea what this guy is on about. | ||
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On November 04 2014 06:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I didn't fucking lie. Read my posts already holy fuck. "I am gonna read LT's filter" "I read his filter, I don't think there's anything overtly scummy" "I don't like lynching LT, the only reason I would do it is for consolidation" "I totally scumread LT" ??????????????????? how is this not a lie????????? | ||
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you ever gonna post reads other than your random calling VE 3p? or you just gonna sit around trying to provoke HF some more when the guy is clearly town? | ||
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On November 04 2014 13:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Welcome to my world of every single second of this game. I'm dead anyway so who gives a fuck. I was town. I'll probably show up a couple more times but everyone is okay calling me shit and useless and killing me over posting during work hours. Fucking awful. I hate all of you. I am not convinced jayb is town yet, and I am not 100% sold on you as mafia. So you have a couple hours to tell me why the other guy is mafia. | ||
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On November 04 2014 12:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Literally the most asinine game ever. I'm Malfurion Stormrage. My day 1 power was some stupid voting thing that I didn't even bother with because I wanted to keep my head down. It was useless anyway. I would like the details of said power that you did not use. I find it odd that VE was advocating judging roles based on their powers, not who they are in the lore. We have 2 people, we have to decide 1 of which dies and he didn't ask further into the details of either of their roles. | ||
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On November 04 2014 15:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote: My vote was worth either 2 or negative 3 for a day. I didn't choose either of them so I didn't get a power. Not like it mattered because my vote was worthless. Who cares though. Nobody is lynching jb over me. I am considering it, I have a hard time seeing you; and malfurion (who no one has cc'd) being mafia. Primarily, pardon my insult, because I have a hard time believing that 2 mafia were stupid enough to make a dumpster tier read (you) on damdred and then the other sheep that read for 0 reason (LT). Like that play just seems too bad for both of you to be mafia. I have a much easier time seeing jay's play yesterday as being mafia, as well as you know....a devil from the burning legion.... | ||
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On November 04 2014 15:43 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not advocating judging anyone's alignment based on their roles. oh, i mixed you with GB. mb. stupid 2 letter acronyms. | ||
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On November 04 2014 15:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeah, you can call it what you want. I'm never defending anyone again because other players are selfish assholes that abuse it by getting me lynched. If you really want to get jb lynched, good luck convincing everyone. Nothing I can do now because tunnels and whatnot. I'll be a burden for as long as I'm alive anyway. If you're just going to sit around whining, then it isn't even worth putting in the effort. But w/e don't care. Gonna say my piece anywayz. JayB's vote was the first registered vote at the end of the day on LT, which would make you think he started the wagon, right? Wrong. Here is his vote: On October 31 2014 14:44 jaybrundage wrote: Dude all of your posts srsly suck you haven't even tried to engage in conversation with anyone. Every. Single. One. is just trash. and completely unrelated to the thread. ##Vote Lord Tolkien To put that vote into context, it is amongst a group of players (jrkirby, misder, and HF) who are essentially voting for LT for the exact same reason early in the day. It is an easy early push to potentially slip a bus vote onto your partner and just leave it there. So while his vote appears early on LT it is originally for essentially a gut read/try to force him to play reason. He then proceeds to "pressure LT" with this post: On October 31 2014 22:25 jaybrundage wrote: @LT Oh sorry, did i miss the point of your post. As far as i could tell it just seemed like fluff. Oh wait, nope still fluff. and this: On November 01 2014 08:35 jaybrundage wrote: I would join a risk.nuke lynch. He is a coinflip and always a liability late game. Add the fact that he always lurks. And not much reason to keep him around. Also LT I don't believe I have seen you contribute yet still waiting. On November 01 2014 13:20 jaybrundage wrote: So the biggest thing I think I got from your post is that your unsure about anyone's alignment as of yet. Disappointing but as we are in the first day not very surprising either. However as noted by the Bold it seems that your very willing to sheep the thread. Do you plan to just go with the majority?Do you have a player that you strongly consider town and would be willing to follow? Also I would be fine lynching LT. While he is not reeking of mafia. His continuous lack of contributions are becoming more and more telling. He also seems to not be bothered with the vote majority on him atm and shows no signs of improving. I just want you to keep that bolded point in mind for later. But again, this is what he is calling himself pressuring LT. He is not even calling the guy mafia or trying to get more votes on him. He is doing nothing to really push the only scum read he has in the thread. On November 02 2014 01:52 jaybrundage wrote: Quoting the LT post with "content" + Show Spoiler + On November 01 2014 16:54 Lord Tolkien wrote: alright, back from long series of cancer inhouses wheeeeeeee~ I'm tired and actually want to sleep, but I SUPPOSE I should help lead town to victory. ...when I'm not about to pass out. First, I really want to analyze JB. But whatever town wants, I guess. I'll consolidate because I'm a conformist and not mafia trying to waste muh votes. Two, Misder, I find it very enlightening to see how people reacted to my blatant trolling. Very enlightening indeed. It's how I garner early reads: looking at the wagons that always form on me D1. :D Plus no one ever lynches me D1, so why should I be concerned. Three, Holyflare, VE, and GlowingBear are probably town. Compare the cancer mafia Glowing to current Glowing. Much more wililng to take a stance and much less passive. Will peg him as town for now. Would also sort of like to say OWS is slightly leaning town, but much less to go on. I've heard people say that Oats is hard to read, but idk, he's leaning town in my reading. Everyone else are scummerdawgs, or I can't read them based on past experience. Id actually have to, like, put in effort and nitpick their filters. Four, as much lulz and hilarity BHs RNG lynch turned out in FFL mini-mafia, I'm not quite ready to take one on yet. At least, not when I've good a semi-decent read on Glowing. Won't vote for what I suspect is a sure mislynch. Also again, lynching (one of?) the most active player is lelelelel Five, Zzzzz, Giving risk.nuke some time to do his IRL shit. But if he dont post D2, we post lynch him then. If we lurker lynch someone, we should totes lynch jrkirby: who are you mafia reads? You made it clear that I'm only your vote because you want me to post stuff and not troll. I'll post moar, but can't promise not trolling on occasion. But in any event, you've given no real stance on possible mafia, instead sheeping onto a silly RNG vote. I'll be awake sometime before ~12PM EDT to carry town to victoryyyyyyy. For now, #Vote Seuss But i'll consolidate when the time cums First Everyone and their mum wants to analyze me nothing new here. Second You say its "Very enlightening indeed." How people react to your trolling. Classic cop out. And seeing as I have been reacting strongly against your "trolling" I would think you would have something insightful to comment about me. You put a throw away vote on Seuss. Directly under that you state your intention to sheep towards the end of the day. Going further then that you recant your vote on Seuss after you see him post. After 20 or so shit posts I'm not impressed. Your only redeeming factor is that BH has done less then you. Which is rather damning for BH. And who I am rather disappointed in. Again, all he says is your post is crappy. He once again doesn't try to push the read or even once call him mafia in this post. Like, he is not committing to this read wholeheartedly. Next I come out with a huge case on LT, and the wagon begins pushing onto LT. And he is nowhere to be found. LT get's lynched with 0 effort and pushing from JayB and here is his reaction: On November 03 2014 12:24 jaybrundage wrote: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! I don't think I have ever been able to get a day 1 lynch I wanted before. AND ITS FUCKING RIGHT! I FUCKING LOVE THIS!! Now let's go back up to that bolded section: "Also I would be fine lynching LT. While he is not reeking of mafia." How do you go from that sentiment to this reaction? He didn't even push the read or really try to get him lynched, he sat on the sideline while the wagon formed made 0 comments on it, assisted in no substantive way and then was right there on the spot to over-the-top celebrate and try to claim plaudits. Originally I just instantly town-read him after the day phase ended because he was the only person on LT before I made the case, but now that I go look back at it, all of that was soft non-pushing early game. Then he was vacant when the case actually shows up....then suddenly throwing a party after he is dead. It just doesn't add up as consistent to me. Reading his posts I don't feel like he ever wanted to lynch LT that bad, and then his reaction is just ....wut? All of this said, JayB is not a high scum target for me; but I have to choose between him and OWS. Perhaps it is simple, and that crap tier read on Damdred that was sheeped by LT buried the both of them together; but could they both really play that bad together as scum? It's like too bad to be scum. As of now I would lead toward dumping JayB into the abyss. That said it is about a 55/45 lean for me. | ||
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That said, being completely absent almost pisses me off less than this post: On November 04 2014 15:35 Circumstance wrote: FFS. I've had a long few days, and I already got an activity warning. I'll be able to be significantly more active after tomorrow (the last day of my internship). Anyway, I'm feeling like the GB nightkill probably was at least in part an attempted a frame on me, since his analysis on me was pretty effective at painting me in a scummy light. I'll directly say that my Night 1 ability wound up being a bust, since nobody did anything to my target. Really wish someone had just shot him. | ||
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On November 04 2014 17:17 jaybrundage wrote: @ritoky Seeing how I wasn't here for practically the whole 3rd day It's not very surprising that I wasn't pushing my LT read. so not being here is a valid excuse for you, but not these people? On November 04 2014 13:41 jaybrundage wrote: THEIR'S TO MANY MUTHA FUCKIN' LURKERS IN THIS MUTHA FUCKIN' THREAD ##Vote risk.nuke ##Vote Misder ##Vote Circumstance can't have it both ways. | ||
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On November 01 2014 09:10 risk.nuke wrote: Because I'm a good player and I will find scum when I get the chance to be active. On November 05 2014 07:07 risk.nuke wrote: You're free to ask me questions but you can knock that attitude if you choose to not and at the same time won't answer mine. You're not doing it. ##vote: risk.nuke | ||
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On November 05 2014 08:12 risk.nuke wrote: Yeah I care, I want to lynch oats. None of you seem to care though. You're all super content doing nothing aswell and lynching me because I was busy day1. What did you expect from me, a massive case. Most of what was said day 1 was useless and the rest is inconclusive. I want to talk and discuss things, I want to hear your thought and I have no problem giving you mine. This will actually give me information I can use. If you want to help me, you can start by telling me what you think of oats and jrjkirby who's being fishy as hell today. there's 106 pages of other people's content in the thread, and multiple people have simply asked you to give a list of reads. i am asking as well. give a list of reads on people please. | ||
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On November 05 2014 08:20 risk.nuke wrote: If digging into 106 pages is so easy, why don't you do it first. You have done nothing day2. Antagonizing people isn't finding scum. If you go back a few pages you'll find me telling you why I think jayb is more suspect than OWS. But hey, reading the thread too hard apparently. | ||
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On November 05 2014 08:44 jaybrundage wrote: Well out of the three people you proposed HF is definitely the scummiest to me. It's also the fact that I WANT HF to be mafia. Cause it would be so sweet to lynch his ass. I don't know if you have ever played with Marv. But scum marv is the thing made of nightmares. He will play well. VERY WELL in fact he will play better then most town players who ARE actually town. HF feels in a similar vein. I have been getting scummy vibes from HF quite a bit. The biggest thing that probably makes me biased is that I hate how he responds to posts in an argument. He twists things. But that abc post by HF was terrible and super scummy. Seeing that makes me second guess my read on HF. His post on you was actually something that I thought was well put together and made him seem more townie. But then he does some scummy gimme your vote shit. I have been going back and forth on Null to scummy on HF this whole game. Also I told you why I changed from Circumstance to you. HF made a really good point about your filter. You were null on LT for the longest time. You were going between who to vote. You voted LT and then later on said he was definitely mafia off some post that was posted such a long time ago. I was going over it and it seemed much more likely that you were mafia. Hell you still could be and are just good at appeal to emotion. (Are you mafia? Cause if you are you made me feel really bad that I killed off a townie and YOU SUCK) But even now It is still a bad mark that you never explained. It was only the sincerity of your post and how you reacted to the secondary lynch that made me think you might be town. If HF is mafia, then please explain why he was spamming the thread to stay firm on LT. And how do his actions surrounding lynching a mafia make him in any way more mafia than the other two? | ||
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On November 05 2014 08:57 jaybrundage wrote: He would be bussing? I don't read Oats and VE town, because of there actions surrounding the lynch. Rather I read them town by how they are posting. I legitimately am beginning to think you're mafia. For some reason you are valuing "how they are posting" over lynching mafia. That makes 0 sense to me from a town mindset. I already made a case on why I think you were soft pushing LT and didn't actually do crap all to help the lynch, the wagon was primarily formed by myself and HF. To which you were trying to discredit HF for saying he was a big force behind that lynch happening, now you don't value the fact that he was one of the people spamming the thread to stay strong on LT. But beyond that, you claimed Jaraxxas and challeneged someone to be sent to oblivion. Presumably your TOP scum read. Now OWS has basically rolled over and died since he seems to think you're town. But you have done literally nothing to push people to vote for someone who was apparently SO SCUMMY to you that you challenged him to a 1v1. You are almost talking to him as if he is confirmed town. If you are not going to push this scum read on OWS in the slightest, then WHY DID YOU 1v1 HIM? Maybe I am just in the tunnel a bit here, but I cannot see this guy as more town than OWS at this point, not even close. | ||
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On November 05 2014 10:03 jaybrundage wrote: Your under no pressure to be lynched why drag this up. I was explaining to Obi wan my read on you and why I did what I did. To respond: I said anyone that is thinking critically would not give away their vote to an unknown identity. How you went about using your power. Doesn't make any sense to me as either alignment. I thought your ABC post was scummy. I said as much. Part of it was misunderstanding your power. Tries to dismiss first half of case by saying "I wasn't here"; then turns around and accuses people on the grounds that they weren't here. Calls pretty much the most obvious town in the game mafia repeatedly. Ignores the 2nd half of the case against him. Doesn't even attempt to push a scum read on someone he had such a strong scum read on that he challenged him to a 1v1. This guy is clearly the better option for Oblivion. | ||
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On November 05 2014 10:50 jaybrundage wrote: I have been trying to focus who we should be normal lynching today On November 05 2014 11:14 jaybrundage wrote: You have been here. You have been following the thread. But the fact that your not pushing yout reads or delivering the content you promised makes you pretty red. ##UnVote: ##Vote Risk.nuke focusing on the lynch for the day -> arrives at the lurker everyone is defaulting to. this guy is so much more likely scum than OWS imo. the fact that literally 0 people are defending risk is an indicator that he is probably town. there are a lot of strangely absent people and no one outside of the same 5 to 6 people are making reads; this is a double lynch day, where the hell are people at? | ||
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On November 05 2014 13:32 Holyflare wrote: Yes but what if the lurker is mafia and nobody on the mafia side is around to defend or cba to talk out of turn in fear or is just bussing for credit. Lots of options there. i gave my vote to you, so honestly my opinion doesn't matter much in regards to the standard lynch today. however, i still think circumstance and a few others are better lynch targets today. | ||
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OWS - null, creeping toward town - He made a crap tier read and his excuses and stuff regarding the lie that HF caught him in are not very good for him. However, his play this phase has seemed genuine and townie; and JayB is just way worse. Misder - slight scum lean - He did some weird crap at the end of the LT lynch where he was flippy-floppy like crazy (esp with that vote multiplier ability), but he is the one who pointed out circ's activity in the hearthstone thread vs this one; so that's kinda townie. this phase is completely underwhelming and such little content that i have nothing to go on to update this. ritoky - town risk.nuke - null, beginning to inch toward town - afk mostly, antagonistic and obstinate when here; 0 people defending bunch of people piling on him might mean he is town. jrkirby - slight town lean - Seems to be thinking critically about the game, pushing people for answers. Only thing that bugs me is sometimes I don't understand his thought process, and he has a weird unvote on LT where he says LT gave some "good content" ....LT never gave good content. Seuss - Town - I like his reasoning process, he needs to get out of the tunnel a bit on damdred and give reads on the rest of the game; but pretty townie mindset in general. VE - scum lean - He doesnt seem to have the passion, conviction, or level of commitment to the game and his reads that VE town normally has from my past experiences. Also, like circ, I saw him forego the thread for video mafia on many occaisions. But the #1 thing that bugged me was his reads post right after the lynch. He was pushing tons of credit for the lynch toward slam in particular, while short selling people who had a lot more involvement. Oats - no clue - can't read him, played with him a few times and he is either deep in the tunnel of completely disengaged from the game as both alignments; he has elected the latter this game. Huge dropoff in activity today though. Alakaslam - slight town - was solid town until that weird VE read spooked me on him and also his dropoff in activity. Damdred - probably town - he pointed out circumstance using misread instead of read early on, which I still think is a scum slip; also his claim seemed townie to me. little odd in the middle parts though. liancourt - null - left no impression on me, was amazed when I saw a 7 page filter. he is a filter target for me for later. Circumstance - scum - active in other threads, making endless excuses, afk, and this: On October 31 2014 12:18 Circumstance wrote: I think it's jumping to conclusions a bit quickly - the game had a clearly defined starting time, so if you didn't post pretty quickly, you'd look suspicious in that you were laying low. Seems like an innocent misread. which I still think is a scum slip. Holyflare - Town - very obvious, if you can't see it; you're blinded by dislike for the player. jaybrundage - leaning mafia - already posted on him, read my filter. | ||
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On November 06 2014 03:46 VisceraEyes wrote: I've given my suspicions of risk.nuke. It revolves around him being near to the thread without participating in discussion, and it's well documented. Alakaslam will verify that I've been on risk.nuke's case since yesterday. I wasn't "sheeping you" I was finding a common ground from which we can move forward since you disagreed with my Damdred read. I'm still fine with a Damdred lynch honestly, but do you really think risk.nuke is town now? Based on what? Me being on his wagon? I WAS ONLY ON THE WAGON BECAUSE YOU PUT ME OFF A DAMDRED WAGON!!! ???? Here is this strange crap about slam again????? | ||
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On November 06 2014 04:36 VisceraEyes wrote: Well too fucking bad scum, we're lynching risk.nuke and you're not changing shit. Who is your partner? On November 06 2014 04:50 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not sure HF is scum, I'm sure that he's being really really bad at the game right now. I SUSPECT that he's scum, but frankly it's based on him scumreading me and that's never a good reason. That tone changed right quick. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Love how nobody cares about the second lynch. ?????? I spent the entire day trying to dig you out from a pile of shit and you sat there digging in the opposite direction. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Appreciate you trying. The people deciding it don't care so it's mostly just us. If I've got an opportunity to get out of it then I'm all ears. But I just don't see it. Try to convince people that a) jaybrundage is scum or b) your abilities are more useful than his if you are both town. | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote: risk IS the lynch today. I've made that quite clear, in fact gone so far as to say that anyone who is voting for risk is claiming mafia if they unvote risk. And we send off Obi today imo, I've been townreading Jay all game. I could be wrong, but Jay is aware of his "Best Mislynch NA" meta and I don't think as mafia he 1v1's like anyone in the thread. So do you think Obi is scum then? Or is it solely because of your read on jay? | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:24 VisceraEyes wrote: It's based solely on my townread of Jay. Obi MIGHT be mafia - HF did the whole catching him in a lie thing which he still denies, it still looks bad to me. Also there was the bit about him throwing shade on me during N1 for no reason, only to back completely off when the pressure was on him D2. Obi is the better bet for mafia, so that's where my vote is. What about the nature of the power itself. Challenging someone to a 1v1 and giving an extra lynch. Do you think that is clearly town sided power, mafia sided power, or could be both? Same with Obi's claimed D1 power, which was +2 votes or -3 votes (As malfurion)? Town/maf/neither? | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote: No, I just didn't get a second power. Is your first power still available for use today or has it evaporated? | ||
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On November 06 2014 05:50 risk.nuke wrote: I've probably been the most active person day2 you priggish shit, It's all of fucking you who's been missing. I'm finding it hard to separate town from scum because for most of this cycle town and scum have been doing the exact same shit. Which is nothing, and being content with sitting on your arses and waiting for my (or maybe circs) lynch to happen. Well good job everyone because it might happen, but when I flip town you'll have noone to blame but yourselves. Since I haven't been able to get reads of people who aren't here I've been trying to get the one person I can tell with absolute certainty is mafia lynched. But none of you even fucking cared about that either. Because you're not satisfied with my amount of reads. You're just sitting around waiting for me to magically whip up reads from nothing. Which I can't do because you were not here to give me material. First off, you've been the most active person day 2 is lol. Secondly, there's 116 pages of content, how do you have 1 read? Like this blows my mind. You found nothing from the HF and VE interaction, nothing from my reads post, nothing from all the interactions with damdred, nothing from the scum lynch yesterday? What do you make of the oblivion choice, JayB or OWS? | ||
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On November 06 2014 06:37 Alakaslam wrote: Tell me what is strange! My one ability that doesn't suck is I glom onto things that happened while I was live. I feel like he is over-crediting you for things, and over-town-reading you for things in odd places and for not really strong reasons. It's just the timing of his mentions and reads on you I am having difficulty understanding. | ||
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i think you're a more likely mafia target than OWS, have expressed it multiple times. i agree with you that oats is hanging back and it is suspicious, but i seriously can't read him to save my life. i think slam has done similar things this phase, toward the end of last day phase he had a burst of seriousness, he hasn't had it this time. he seems content lynching afks...which makes me doubt him a bit more. i think misder's post is a pile of crap. most if it is vague "feeling reads" we are 100some pages in, i expected something more. he also mentioned he felt intimidated; i don't like when people talk themselves down it feels bad to me. i also don't think risk is likely mafia. none of this matters though since i don't have a vote on that wagon. | ||
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On November 06 2014 09:36 Damdred wrote: This might sound insane, is it balanced for town to have two ways to manipulate the vote by adding votes? This just struck me generally theres a balance, its true I can take away a singular vote, but for instance Misder was able to add 4 votes by himself yesterday obi could of added some or subtracted three. Do you think town has two vote manipulators? Or am i just to paranoid here from the votes, it looked like misder was able to gain additional votes by putting them on himself. dealing damage to oneself to gain votes to me would correlate in hearthstone terms to either eye for an eye or life tap or something in that vein; but that's wifom as hell. | ||
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On November 06 2014 09:42 jaybrundage wrote: Just cause you cant vote doesn't mean you shouldn't give reasons to vote someone. Do you think circumstance has a higher chance to flip mafia? circumstance has literally done 0 to change my read from yesterday and a couple pages ago, i posted a giant list of reads on this. | ||
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I am in a position where I, barring something ridiculous, cannot die tonight; as my power tonight is pretty much the most op thing I have ever read. I am Uther Lightbringer, if you don't believe me, I bread crumbed it in my first 6 posts: ![]() My powers have been: D1: Blessing of Wisdom - Masoned with HF N1: Divine Favor - Not explaining this, it would only be beneficial for mafia. D2: Redemption - Allow player lynched by standard lynch to continue posting until 24 hrs into next cycle - used on risk N2: OP-OP My goal with this claim is to form the largest possible town circle, centering it around myself and HF who are confirmed towns. HF also claimed to be masoned with another person, so if it was via the same power then that person could be added to the confirmed list. Then I am beginning my work on my voting analysis as we have 3 votes to base information off of; and we can begin adding to the town circle from there as well. We need to pro-actively narrow down the list and form a strong circle so that stupid crap like people sitting on an afk that 0 people defend for 30 hrs and saying nothing else does not happen again tomorrow. Vote Analysis, coming shortly. | ||
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There's a lot of vote manipulation going on, so I did my best to follow the voting thread and copy only what people typed in there. There may be a couple errors here. Day One Final Vote Count LordTolkien: jaybrundage, ritoky, Holyflare, Alakaslam, VisceraEyes, Seuss, risk.nuke, Circumstance, Blazinghand, jrkirby, Misder, oatsmaster, ObiWanShinobi jrkirby: Damdred Damdred: liancourt CIrcumstance: GlowingBear, LordTolkien LordTolkien has been lynched. Day 2 Final Vote Count risk.nuke: VisceraEyes, Alakaslam, Holyflare, jrkirby, Oatsmaster, Misder, ObiWanShinobi Oatsmaster: risk.nuke Misder: Damdred, Jaybrundage, liancourt Not voting: ritoky, Circumstance OBLIVION!!!! Jaybrundage: Alakaslam, ObiWanShinobi, risk.nuke, ritoky, Misder ObiWanShinobi: Holyflare, VisceraEyes, liancourt, Jaybrundage, Oatsmaster, Seuss, Damdred, jrkirby Not voting: Circumstance Vote Analysis: Misder: Mafia voted on - 1 (LT) Town Voted on - 1 (risk.nuke) Lynches Contributed to - 2 (LT, risk.nuke) Most Frequently Votes with - Alakaslam, ObiWanShinobi (3) ritoky Mafia voted on - 1 (LT) Town Voted on - 0 Lynches Contributed to - 1 (LT) Most Frequently Votes with - risk.nuke, Alakaslam, ObiWanShinobi, Misder (2) jrkirby Mafia voted on - 1 (LT) Town Voted on - 2 (risk.nuke, OWS) Lynches Contributed to - 3 (LT, risk.nuke, OWS) Most Frequently Votes with - HolyFlare, VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster (3) Seuss Mafia voted on - 1 (LT) Town Voted on - 1 (OWS) Lynches Contributed to - 2 (LT, OWS) Most Frequently Votes with - Whole bunch of people (2) VisceraEyes Mafia voted on - 1 (LT) Town Voted on - 2 (risk.nuke, OWS) Lynches Contributed to - 3 (LT, risk.nuke, OWS) Most Frequently Votes with - HolyFlare, jrkirby, Oatsmaster (3) Oatsmaster Mafia voted on - 1 (LT) Town Voted on - 2 (risk.nuke, OWS) Lynches Contributed to - 3 (LT, risk.nuke, OWS) Most Frequently Votes with - HolyFlare, jrkirby, VisceraEyes (3) Alakaslam Mafia voted on - 1 (LT) Town Voted on - 1 (risk.nuke) Lynches Contributed to - 2 (LT, risk.nuke) Most Frequently Votes with - OWS, misder (3) Damdred Mafia voted on - 0 Town Voted on - 1 (OWS) Lynches Contributed to - 1 (OWS) Most Frequently Votes with - Jaybrundage, Liancourt (2) Liancourt Mafia voted on - 0 Town Voted on - 1 (OWS) Lynches Contributed to - 1 (OWS) Most Frequently Votes with - Jaybrundage, Damdred (2) Circumstance/CR Mafia voted on - 1 (LT) Town Voted on - 0 Lynches Contributed to - 1 (LT) Most Frequently Votes with - BUNCH OF PEOPLE HolyFlare Mafia voted on - 1 (LT) Town Voted on - 2 (risk.nuke, OWS) Lynches Contributed to - 3 (LT, risk.nuke, OWS) Most Frequently Votes with - Oatsmaster, jrkirby, VisceraEyes (3) jaybrundage Mafia voted on - 1 (LT) Town Voted on - 1 (OWS) Lynches Contributed to - 2 (LT, OWS) Most Frequently Votes with - Lot of people (2) Initial Observations: - The group that has contributed to all 3 lynches are: HF, VE, Oats, and jrkirby - The other voting block to vote with eachother all 3x is: Alakaslam, misder - Alakaslam has 0 mentions of misder in his entire filter, yet has voted with him 3 times. - Jaybrundage has a scum read and posted a huge case on damdred, yet voted with him both times today. - In the VE/HF/Oats/Jrkirby group, Oats and jrkirby ALWAYS vote after HF and VE - Circumstance and ritoky are the only people to have not voted on a town - Damdred and Iiancourt are the only people to have not voted on a mafia Going to look at it a little more closely, and potentially color a few more names green to try to narrow down some conclusions from this. | ||
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On November 06 2014 13:53 liancourt wrote: How is ritoky and hf confirmed town? Did someone seer them? First time i am hearing this. We were masoned together day1 -> night 1, we formed the case that lynched mafia. The mason pm confirmed that we were town together. | ||
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On November 06 2014 14:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Meh. Yeah my Mason was different from the first one. It was for 1 day only though, no nights. What was the title of the skill? | ||
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ritoky HF Tentative Town: VE - his frustration and the descriptions of his powers don't read as anti-town to me. Oats - he masoned HF, and if it was through a similar power as mine then it confirms him as town; i am not 100% on it as i can't read him Seuss - not based on solid information, based on my read of him. his thought progression and questioning seems on point for a townie. Stock falling, need to re-assess: Damdred - I have had a town read on damdred since day 1 for 2 reasons: 1) damdred pointed on circumstance's scum slip almost immediately, which I STILL think is a scum slip. 2) damdred claimed and demonstrated that he had an aldor peacekeeper ability (paladin), and i knew on day 1 i was uther (paladin) and HF was tirion (paladin) and we were both town. call it wifom if you want, but it was the reason that has been in my head for a long time. However, I am beginning to re-evaluate and see that extending a voting phase, denying a vote, and messing with how some1 posts isn't exactly the most town set of powers I have ever read. Don't know if he is mafia yet at this point, but not in tentative town area anymore. Uneasy feelingz - Misder - I really liked misder super early when he basically just straight answered questions, plus he used his vote multiplier thingy to lynch mafia rather than divert a lynch, but was kinda flippy-floppy on it so idk started to lean mafia a bit. HOWEVER, this: On November 06 2014 11:50 Misder wrote: 4) ritoky - town: had town vibes day 1, pretty sure he breadcrumbed being mason with Holyflare This seems REALLY observant for someone with such a short filter. Like TOO observant. Like someone mentioned it in a QT and you grabbed it and used it in your read level of observant. And if you've been that observant, then why aren't you contributing more to town? Tentative mafia - JayBrundage - I still don't think his power was pro-town and I still don't think his play was pro-town. He made 0 follow-up on his supposed enormous scum read on...etc...etc the case is in my filter, but no one cared then, doubt any1 cares now. Jaraxxas/gul'dan just seems mafia sided if valeera was mafia sided to me as well, but that's wifom. Alakaslam - 1 word: Stagnant. That is what slam has been. He played fine day 1 and seemed to give some shits. Now he has stagnated, nibbling at the edges of things, never getting involved, and his reads have not progressed in the slightest. He sits around maintaining the same theory since w/e even though it is completely wrong. Circumstance/CR - Early scum slip d1, everything he posts is pretty generic, could have been lynching between two mafia day 1. Could re-eval after CR begins posting. Iiancourt - completely underwhelming, non-committal, not even sure what his reads are; everything he posts seems generic and uninvested. | ||
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On November 07 2014 07:40 jaybrundage wrote: @ritoky Did you intentionally leave out Jrkirby? don't know what to make of him. he is voting with HF, VE, and oats who i have in town for now....soo...but idk | ||
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Unless someone cc's you on this I am going to assume you're town based on the nature of that power. Also, don't give me your new invention; my ability from last night wasn't expended since I wasn't targeted with KP. | ||
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On November 07 2014 12:27 Oatsmaster wrote: What did ritoky do last night? I mean, people keep saying they have OP powers but nothing happened. My ability was hand of protection, gave me a divine shield which blocks all kp to a target, can be self-cast, and only pops when you absorb at least 1 kp. It did not pop last night, which means I am invulnerable essentially another night. | ||
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On November 07 2014 12:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Wait now I want to know. What did you mean "interesting that it wasn't VE" I thought you claimed the invention you made last night was the one you distributed. I didn't know you invented night b4, then gave it out. Hence I thought there was some bs and another inventor going on. | ||
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Immune to all kp, self-castable protection, that endures until you're targeted with a kp???? I mean have your abilities been stronger than this? | ||
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There's a lot of vote manipulation going on, so I did my best to follow the voting thread and copy only what people typed in there. There may be a couple errors here. Day One Final Vote Count LordTolkien: jaybrundage, ritoky, Holyflare, Alakaslam, VisceraEyes, Seuss, risk.nuke, Circumstance, Blazinghand, jrkirby, Misder, oatsmaster, ObiWanShinobi jrkirby: Damdred Damdred: liancourt CIrcumstance: GlowingBear, LordTolkien LordTolkien has been lynched. Day 2 Final Vote Count risk.nuke: VisceraEyes, Alakaslam, Holyflare, jrkirby, Oatsmaster, Misder, ObiWanShinobi Oatsmaster: risk.nuke Misder: Damdred, Jaybrundage, liancourt Not voting: ritoky, Circumstance OBLIVION!!!! Jaybrundage: Alakaslam, ObiWanShinobi, risk.nuke, ritoky, Misder ObiWanShinobi: Holyflare, VisceraEyes, liancourt, Jaybrundage, Oatsmaster, Seuss, Damdred, jrkirby Not voting: Circumstance Updated votes w/e flips: This has me, HF, and VE colored as town. I believe an ability that unroleblocks someone is inherently town, and he gave it to me; so he is town as far as I am concerned. | ||
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Town: ritoky - uther lightbringer HF - tirion fordring VE - Geblin Mekkatorque Everyone else: damdred - aldor peacekeeper misder - leeroy jenkins (said he was going to kamikaze, and didn't??) jaybrundage - jaraxxas (maybe gul'dan?) non-claimers: alakaslam Iiancourt Circ/CR oats | ||
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On November 07 2014 12:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Noobclaiming would be "I don't know how these work". You're literally just throwing around catchwords LMAO Are you fucking scum Oats? He very well might be, he hasn't really done anything and these are his most recent scum reads in his filter: On November 05 2014 21:13 Oatsmaster wrote: risk.nuke circumstnace possibly seuss Do you think town oats has that crap-tier of reads? | ||
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oats claimed gul'dan, jaybrundage claimed jaraxxas.....god i can't stop myself from wifoming in this setup....but i feel like both of them are either town or mafia, and probably together 100% in alignment. complete setup speculation, take it with a grain of salt. | ||
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On November 07 2014 14:53 liancourt wrote: are u claiming vig now? he just claimed his name and powers like 20 posts ago... | ||
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On November 08 2014 12:42 jaybrundage wrote: Oats was incorrect in saying we should stay on risk.nuke. Because risk.nuke was town. As opposed to slam who theorized that me and risk were mafia together with LT, placed his vote early in the phase on risk, and just afk'd the phase away? Why are you so harsh on oats but not slam? | ||
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On November 08 2014 15:37 liancourt wrote: ok since everyone seems to be claiming and all i'll claim my d1 action which was if i forfeited my vote i could halve the number of votes someone received which i didn't. And my n2 action was that if the person i chose died that night that they would still be able to vote on d3 and picked rito. my current scum reads are damdred and misder. Chairman ray needs to fucking read everything and not play the game half assed because i believed that slot to be a apprehensive uncertain noobie playing which i didnt think to be scummy but genuine. So i'm willing to give ray more time to prove himself because i think he can play better from what i heard of him from other players. Damdred has been scummy since day 1 with his day 1 voting stunt and his day 2 "guess the word" shawanigans. i still dont understand why he used that ability day 1 to make it a majority vote which was risky as hell. The end was good in hindsight but the means were very scummy. Moreover, I dont see how u got a scum read on me so suddenly the only explanation i can come up with is this: It just seems ur copying what oats said and trying to find a reason that u see me scummy. And when i ask you to enlighten everyone of how i usually play you just go somewhere else and don't explain. Like do you really want me to be lynched? I even welcomed your case against me but you ddidnt deliver. Scummy. Misder after thinking for a long time and however far fetched it might be I think misder is telling the truth about the chicken and leeroy. Now some of u know the story of leeroy and going full retard in a dungeon on wow. He just went in disregarding any plans. To my knowledge in the video he didn't die (correct me if i'm wrong) but says at the end that he at least got chicken. Now i think that the fact that he has a chicken makes him not die when he goes leeroy. Now, i know the chances of ve giving the chicken to the right person (which is leeroy) is very minimal and if that is the case then ve and misder is probably mafia (kinda like what ray said). However, I believe that ve is a good inventor, he's been giving good inventions out and i don't think anything bad has happened to them. So i think ve got lucky in giving misder the chicken. So in conclusion i'd rather lynch damdred than misder. PS. To those who think i'm playing half heartedly, unusual, uninterested, god knows any other bad attributed words. I've played 3 games here. First game half the people thought of me as scum I tried my fucking best to please everyone and bleed town as best as possible, it wasn't enough. i got lynched and everyone fucking ignored my reads. Second game ended quite fast but nonetheless i was seen as scummy on the first day because i wasn't try harding like the first game. LOL. I was going for a different playstyle because it was tiring doing all the shit for nothing when no one believes u and ignores ur reads. So i played less serious, but i gave reads nonetheless when it was needed. No one really gave a damn then either so and the game ended. third game was resistance. The game kinda imploded on itself but nonetheless i tried give out my analysis I even made the 2 pools splitting scum and hypothesizing that there were 1 and 2 scum in each pool. I was right at least right when I looked at the game when it ended but no one gave a fuck about my 2 pool analysis and disregarded it. So now how do you think i feel when i give reads but they are just ignored? I just didn't try as hard as past games does it really matter since no one gives a damn about my reads up until now. Why now? Oh wait, it's because I'm scummy now for some apparent reason. Now I am at the center of attention lol Are you going to ignore my reads again today? Fuck psycho analyze this post and I want every fucking ppl to respond to me. Response #1: Claim your name, or I am voting you. Response #2: Your case on damdred doesn't seem very compelling at all. In fact it confuses me. You're have no suspicion of oats who made a half-assed case, but you're suspicious of damdred for having essentially a meta/gut read on you? Response #3: Not understanding someone's abilities or play, especially when there was a mysterious item at play, doesn't necessitate mafia; the rest of that is wifom. Response #4: Why did you spend the same amount of time whining and making excuses as you did on your reads? | ||
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On November 09 2014 03:15 Damdred wrote: I don't think i've honestly ever seen you be so bad at reading me VE or HF honestly if you can look at my filter and look at the effort i did towards reading people and still call me mafia idk where to go from here. No matter what I say VE towards your question you iwll just keep painting me in a scummy light, you have already made up your mind intentions behind everything I have done. I remember 1 time in some game I made a case on you cuz you were in another game posting a storm and tryharding like mad, and in the game with me you were putting forth no effort. Turned out in the game you were putting all the effort into you were mafia, and in the one with me you were town....sooooo this defense isn't compelling in the slightest. | ||
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On November 09 2014 07:11 Damdred wrote: Yep voting for himself butnot voting at the same time Eh i wish he was here to say if it was him or not when he did it before they were invisible, so.... On November 03 2014 12:02 kitaman27 wrote: Day One Final Vote Count jaybrundage (0): Holyflare (0): LordTolkien (14): jrkirby (1): Glowingbear (0): Misder (4): Alakaslam (0): risk.nuke (0): Damdred (2): Blazinghand (0): ObiWanShinobi (0): CIrcumstance (2): liancourt (1): ObiWanShinobi LordTolkien has been lynched. | ||
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On November 07 2014 13:31 Misder wrote: No powers anymore - I still have a chicken He said he doesn't have any powers left.... I get the feeling someone has a vote manipulation ability and is trying to frame him... | ||
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On November 09 2014 09:13 Oatsmaster wrote: my vote got stolen wtf. correct? Or mod error? ? | ||
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On November 09 2014 09:38 Holyflare wrote: If he's Mafia/3p cool if not we could lose yeah but if we lynch him and he is town, we could lose too. this is potentially mylo. | ||
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On November 09 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote: That's not true because of abilities and the chance for mafia/3p to hit each other etc i can't math assuming there is 3p kp and this is not just 2kp mafia...i mean its likely, but not guaranteed 3p | ||
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On November 09 2014 10:14 Holyflare wrote: Where the hell does everyone get these ridiculous notions from? 3kp?? There's been 2 each night ??? not saying there's 3kp? imagine if misder is town. could be 2kp mafia no 3p/3p w/ no kp and misder has a 1 shot kp ability as town. that is a possible world. | ||
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On November 08 2014 14:24 Oatsmaster wrote: because CR is making absolutely no sense, his only scumread is role speculation and he has contradicted himself multiple times. ???? How does he get from this, to voting with CR onto misder who isn't even here to defend himself. HF did this too, top scum read into voting with top scum read....what is going on right now... | ||
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On November 09 2014 10:32 Holyflare wrote: No. You aren't thinking this through logically at all. If misder is town then there is a MISSING mafia kp. Your protection didn't go off, cr couldn't heal me and so 1kp is missing and then someone is LYING about powers remember when i talked to the mod about using my n1 power. the mod told me, if the same target is targeted by the same ability, priority is decided by RNG. possible explanation, possibly not; all i know is that if he is town and we are in mylo, we potentially lose. | ||
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On November 08 2014 16:48 Oatsmaster wrote: Ray might not have medic again. He said he doesn't know which abilities he gets. Man i actually don't think damdred is scum. Stay on course for cr. Ve, why don't you want to lynch cr? [QUOTE]On November 08 2014 18:30 Oatsmaster wrote: [QUOTE]On November 08 2014 17:29 Chairman Ray wrote: If I had to pick a 3p, it would be Oatsmaster just off role speculation. His name check ability sticks out to me. There is literally nothing that names do in this game, so putting this ability into the game doesn't make sense from a design perspective. Oats even decided to use this ability, while discarding vengeful and ability block, which are two wonderful abilities for either faction. He also decided to keep the martyr ability despite saying that he really doesn't want to use it. Makes sense if he's 3p with a win-con that has to do with names, and the martyr ability can change his win con. Maybe Misder could be 3p, but I think mafia is far more likely.[/QUOTE] Dude I didn't have a choice in which abilities I discarded. Also I'm not getting lynched so vengeful is bad, ability block is for myself which is bad. Sooooo in essence, I got super lucky with the discards. And seriously you can't even make up a plausible theory how me knowing role names helps me win the game. [/QUOTE [QUOTE]On November 09 2014 02:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah man I really dont know about damdred. Fine, ill be safe. Misder. Im gonna bed. ##vote Misder[/QUOTE] what am i not reading here? how is misder the "safe play" we potentially lose if he is town. | ||
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On November 08 2014 16:48 Oatsmaster wrote: Ray might not have medic again. He said he doesn't know which abilities he gets. Man i actually don't think damdred is scum. Stay on course for cr. Ve, why don't you want to lynch cr? On November 08 2014 18:30 Oatsmaster wrote: Dude I didn't have a choice in which abilities I discarded. Also I'm not getting lynched so vengeful is bad, ability block is for myself which is bad. Sooooo in essence, I got super lucky with the discards. And seriously you can't even make up a plausible theory how me knowing role names helps me win the game. On November 09 2014 02:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah man I really dont know about damdred. Fine, ill be safe. Misder. Im gonna bed. ##vote Misder fixed it | ||
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On November 09 2014 10:42 Holyflare wrote: I don't know why you keep saying if he's town but no reasons why he's not mafia because he has done literally nothing since d1 other than claim, and his claim, while confusing and i have no idea wtf is going on with it, doesn't read like made up kinda confusing. other than that all i got is the day 1 read from that post that you and i agreed on in the mason thread. so it's hard to defend the guy in any way, this just reminds me of the risk lynch. tons of unabated pressure, 0 people defending him, guy not even defending himself...it feels almost exactly the same. | ||
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On November 09 2014 10:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Dude this lynch is not at all like the risk thing. For me, misder is definitely not town. Like he might not be scum but there's no chance he's town. your read on misder is basically 80% of the reason i am not voting, because i think it is a pile of crap. you typed his name 4 total this phase before you voted on him. 2 were to ask him to claim and clarify his claim, 1 when you were asking VE about the sequence of his night actions, and then the last you're speculating with HF about him being a public assassin. then vote. you have no read on him, and now suddenly there's 0 chance he is town. i think oats if full of crap. | ||
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On November 09 2014 10:59 Oatsmaster wrote: I don't see how this doesn't make sense. Holy flare is persuasive. I really could lynch like 3 people but lian isn't getting any love and cr is kinda like 90%-10% for me. 1) because you're the guy, from my past experience, when you think some1 is scum you will rail on them and vote them until they are dead 8x over; you have not done that in the slightest this entire game. 2) you literally had no read on the guy then suddenly it is so convincing that you're willing to peel off the scum read you've been most vocal about the entire game? how does that make sense? you had no read on the guy prior to this. | ||
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On November 09 2014 11:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Er yeah It's possible for me to change my mind. Yes. That's a thing. i just straight up don't buy this at all | ||
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if you really think it is mathematically best to kill the person who is probably about to be modkilled, and can explain to me why it is mathematically correct, then i guess i have to. otherwise i am voting oats. | ||
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On November 09 2014 11:22 jaybrundage wrote: I say Oats isn't doing what I expected and you say im scummy for casting suspicion on Oats. Misder is up for lynch but you keep throwing shit at the lynch. While not pushing your own scum read. Now your throwing suspicion on Oats but doing it in such a weird way. Do you think Oats is scum/3p. I don't get what your doing towards the end of the day. Why aren't you pushing your top scum read? my scum read on you stems from the usage of your power, you not pushing obi after you had an apparent huge scum read on him and your disproportionate reaction to LT getting lynched as mafia when you had very little to do with it, and didn't push the read very hard. it is completely independent from oats. | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:07 Holyflare wrote: so either a 2nd kp was blocked or mafia just have 1 kp and bh/gb were vigis, if there's no 3p in the game which is actually looking like there isn't then we only have to find the 1? town between: alakaslam damdred liancourt jaybrundage 4) ritoky 8) VisceraEyes 11) Alakaslam 13) Damdred 14) liancourt 16) Holyflare 17) jaybrundage you didn't list CR | ||
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There's a lot of vote manipulation going on, so I did my best to follow the voting thread and copy only what people typed in there. There may be a couple errors here. Day One Final Vote Count LordTolkien: jaybrundage, ritoky, Holyflare, Alakaslam, VisceraEyes, Seuss, risk.nuke, Circumstance, Blazinghand, jrkirby, Misder, oatsmaster, ObiWanShinobi jrkirby: Damdred Damdred: liancourt CIrcumstance: GlowingBear, LordTolkien LordTolkien has been lynched. Day 2 Final Vote Count risk.nuke: VisceraEyes, Alakaslam, Holyflare, jrkirby, Oatsmaster, Misder, ObiWanShinobi Oatsmaster: risk.nuke Misder: Damdred, Jaybrundage, liancourt Not voting: ritoky, Circumstance OBLIVION!!!! Jaybrundage: Alakaslam, ObiWanShinobi, risk.nuke, ritoky, Misder ObiWanShinobi: Holyflare, VisceraEyes, liancourt, Jaybrundage, Oatsmaster, Seuss, Damdred, jrkirby Not voting: Circumstance Day Three Final Vote Count Chairman Ray (1): Alakaslam Damdred (3): VisceraEyes, liancourt, Misder liancourt (1): Damdred Misder (4): Chairman Ray, Oatsmaster, Holyflare, jaybrundage Oatsmaster (1): ritoky Misder has been lynched Updated votes w/e flips: This has me, HF, and VE colored as town. | ||
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like d1: damdred scum lean on lian, lian scum reads damdred -> votes on him d2: both still scum reading eachother -> vote with eachother on both votes d3: still scum reading eachother -> vote against eachother i think there has to be 1 between these two | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:31 VisceraEyes wrote: Or they're both mafia distancing from each other and not reevaluating the game. I'd shit a brick if they're both town though. yeah you could be right, let me revise that to *at least 1 between these two | ||
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On November 08 2014 16:37 jaybrundage wrote: I wanna lynch Misder but I really think he might be 3p. So I don't wanna waste a lynch on a someone who's not mafia. Gonna make my own gawd damn party. With black jack and hookers. ##Vote Liancourt On November 09 2014 11:00 jaybrundage wrote: Misder it is. ##Unvote liancourt ##Vote Misder I would like an explanation of your late vote. | ||
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cuz from where i am standing, i don't think he pressured LT that much at all, he voiced many times that he was more than willing to switch off of him, he put his vote (even though it's first) on him at a fairly inconsequential time, he has voted on non-stop townies since then including that late vote that basically guaranteed damdred was safe, and then there's the whole duel and challenge obi thing where he claimed to have an immense scum read on obi and didn't even push for the lynch very hard at all. | ||
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On November 10 2014 16:56 Alakaslam wrote: Bullshit If I was scum I would have bussed him with my perfect knowledge. Find another game where I try to save a scumbuddy Find a coaching QT that I don't preface with YOU ARE NOT A TEAM. YOU ARE A PAIR OF SCUM. AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY YOU STAB YOUR "TEAMMATE" IN THE BACK! this way you will both survive" Srsly VE if you find a game where I defend a scumbuddy I will cede myself to a lynch. so what you're saying is you're scum with LT? | ||
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On November 10 2014 12:56 Damdred wrote: I totally give up just lynch me, I really don't even understand how I should of used my abilities. D1 I was pulling a 16 hour shift and had to sneak into a closet to post my notes so that people would get off my nuts about them, extended the day so I could contribute more after I was off work and try to get GB off me which didn't work all it did was get be to tunnel me. D2 I told the truth about my power and then mod clarified something after convo was over did not effect the outcome. D3 I used my power in a protown way I think even tried to let people give opinons or thoughts on it. D4 idk just what it is quit whining, giving up, and making excuses. do you think 2 mafia are left or 3? depending on your answer, give me a team. | ||
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On November 06 2014 09:36 Damdred wrote: This might sound insane, is it balanced for town to have two ways to manipulate the vote by adding votes? This just struck me generally theres a balance, its true I can take away a singular vote, but for instance Misder was able to add 4 votes by himself yesterday obi could of added some or subtracted three. Do you think town has two vote manipulators? Or am i just to paranoid here On November 06 2014 09:52 Damdred wrote: I could really go for misder with that post its so weird, and his trying to get people off of LT i might be feeling a switch Summarized: he thinks misder was trying to deflect off LT, thinks town having multiple vote manipulation abilities is imba and can't be town sided (hmmm yours would be the 3rd and 4th), didn't like posting/reads. Damdred's d3 misder read: On November 07 2014 14:56 Damdred wrote: He's claiming leeroy Jenkins I think You literally don't question him thoroughly on it at all, you're not confused by the function of the chicken; and you go from him being your top scum read and voting on him to not a mumbling word about him and accepting his claim as fact. Seems like a read progression that may come from a place of more information. | ||
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On November 11 2014 13:51 Damdred wrote: Slam: Hes shows a good bit of paranoia at moments in the game and has some interesting theories in the game even if htey prooved wrong. I think his overall game looks towny for him and as oats pointed out he posts what he thinks and he has done so here and I trust him as town right now, he did go off a bit with the paranoid ve hf and rit scum team but overall I think hes town. I think VE rit and hf are town wish other people were here talking though Specifics please. | ||
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i agreed we were mod confirmed when holy said it because it made the game simpler @ the time. regret it now, but oh well. i also fully planned to lynch holy in 4 or 3 as i said. still don't know how anyone in that entire game read jaybrundage as town...guy was the most obvious mafia ever, yet 0 townies ever wanted to lynch him and so i couldn't get it going. i also completely bs'd that divine shield on myself to try to eat a bullet for someone, and then i didn't get shot and it worked out even better for me lol. it's frustrating for me on these forums cuz i have really quality reads, but they never seem to get traction, maybe it has to do with my lower volume posting style. anywayz, sorry for the inactivity late game, got busy at work | ||
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On November 12 2014 12:19 Alakaslam wrote: OBLIVION!!!! Jaybrundage (3): Alakaslam, ObiWanShinobi (5): Holyflare, Misder, VisceraEyes, liancourt, Jaybrundage, SSON I was sooo right, ooooh it gives me confidence BH clone incoming right about what? your original theory was me + risk and we were both town LOL | ||
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On November 12 2014 12:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Holyflare tunneled the fuck out of me and not a single townie bothered to read the accusations. It was lying, supposedly. yeah, but you refused to get behind me and my accusations of jay, you just accepted it was between two towns....you didn't even go for my who has more useful powers argument....idk, kinda buried yourself a bit. | ||
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damn, just re-read the mason qt, literally my d1 reads: lian scum, LT scum, jayb scum, damdred scum. shoulda just listened to my d1 self. i have rly good d1 reads. | ||
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On November 13 2014 06:52 VisceraEyes wrote: Also HF is despicable for taking advantage of a player who doesn't know any better, but that's a conversation for a different time and thread. ![]() i disagree with this entirely, and take a lot of offense to this comment. i knew full well what i was doing accepting HF's assertion. yes it ended up backfiring on me, but he agreed with my case that lynched mafia day 1 so i was willing to take the risk for a while. like i said if it was 4 or 3 with HF alive, i was lynching HF 100% of the time; i had already made the conscious decision. you shouldn't talk shit and underestimate players. it was that same line of thinking that had 0 people listening to my reads that were 80% on mafia almost all game. | ||
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On November 13 2014 07:33 marvellosity wrote: This is a frankly shocking justification; if a player is telling the thread something that isn't true, then you say so. I don't care if you "knew full well what you were doing", because what were you were doing was bad. Whatever upside you think there was in letting the thread believe a lie, it wasn't worth it and it was never going to be worth it. i agree and disagree. i think had i not gotten busy with work at an inopportune time, i would have corrected it sooner in the thread (but hindsight is a bitch huh?). however, in terms of personal experience and my opinion it served as a very good function of continuity for at least day 2, i would probably play it the same for the second day doing it over; the 3rd and beyond is questionable. your criticism is obtuse though. "don't lie as town" yeah....right. i also think there is a problematic meta on these forums from my personal experience where certain players value others' opinions way too highly and disregard others' opinions way too quickly. but that's another can of worms. | ||
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On November 13 2014 07:49 marvellosity wrote: I didn't say "don't lie as town" although I basically never lie as town, I can't think of an instance. What if you died N1? Then again you are handing mafia a freewin essentially. You may have had the best intentions but unfortunately it was a full-on throw. If HF is town he doesn't need you calling him confirmed, and if he's mafia, then well... the game happened. we didn't even claim masons until d2, irrelevant. | ||
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On November 13 2014 08:38 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm going to talk shit about you in every game I play with you from now until the end of time for you getting defensive about KNOWING HF was not mod-confirmed town and not telling us. Fuck you and your "Oh don't talk shit "FUCKING NO! You deserve EVERY OUNCE of flak thrown at you if that's the fucking case ritoky. EVERY FUCKING OUNCE if that is your assertion. nice reads. | ||
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